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Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 29, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Baytex Energy Corp. Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2023 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brian Ector, Senior Vice President, Capital Markets and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Thank you, Galen. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and full-year 2023 financial and operating results. Today, I am joined by Eric Greager, our President and Chief Executive Officer; Chad Kalmakoff, our Chief Financial Officer; and Chad Lundberg, our Chief Operating Officer. While listening, please keep in mind that some of our remarks will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. I refer you to the advisories regarding forward-looking statements. Oil and gas information and non-GAAP financial and capital management measures in yesterday's press release. On the call today, we will also be discussing the evaluation of our reserves at year-end 2023. These are valuations that have been prepared in accordance with Canadian disclosure standards which are not comparable in all respects to United States or other foreign disclosure standards. Our remarks regarding reserves are also forward-looking statements. All dollar amounts referenced in our remarks are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise specified. And following our prepared remarks, we will be taking questions from analysts. In addition, if you are listening in today via the webcast, you will have the opportunity to submit an online question, and we will do our best to answer all questions submitted. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Eric.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Thanks, Brian. Good morning, everyone and welcome to our year-end 2023 conference call. I'm excited to discuss our 2023 results and in particular, our results over the past two quarters, which demonstrate the merits of the Ranger acquisition and the strength of our oil-weighted portfolio. Before diving into our results in a little more detail, I want to take a moment and recognize the hard work of our passionate team of high quality professionals in Houston and Calgary. Our teams have come together to create a new and stronger organization that we are all proud to be a part of. I would like to give a shout out in particular to our field staff who work under extraordinary conditions at times. We were reminded of that in January with extremely cold temperatures across North America, which was followed by heavy rainfall in Texas. We are grateful to our employees and contractors for their commitment to safe operations and their tireless effort to provide reliable energy to fuel people's lives. Let's turn to 2023. On June 20, we closed the acquisition of Ranger, adding quality scale in the Eagle Ford along the U.S. Gulf Coast and reinforcing a resilient and sustainable business. In conjunction with closing, we increased direct shareholder returns to 50% of free cash flow, which allowed us to increase the value of our share buyback program and introduced a dividend. The remainder of our free cash flow was allocated to debt reduction. In 2023, we returned $260 million to shareholders through our share buyback program and dividend. Our normal course issuer bid allows for the purchase of up to 68.4 million common shares during the 12-month period ending June 28, 2024. Through December 31, 2023, we repurchased 40.5 million common shares for $222 million, representing 4.7% of our…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the analyst question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Greg Pardy with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, good morning. This is [indiscernible] on for Greg Pardy and thanks for your commentary. My first question just on the Clearwater, production remains strong, coming in above 16,000 barrels a day in the quarter. Do you still believe the 12,000 to 15,000 production range is the right range for this asset? And how are you guys thinking about this moving forward?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Hey, Rob. Thanks for the question. You'll hear us continue to stay 12,000 to 15,000. But honestly, I think it's going to hug the high end of that. So probably over time, maybe just referring to around 15,000 as a plateau rate. I think that makes a lot of sense. But there's -- we'll continue to have this conversation. As the wells come on and help us understand performance, we'll inform that conversation accordingly. But so far, it has outperformed our expectations. So I would say hug the high end of that and more to come.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great, thanks. That's helpful. And maybe just shifting gears a little bit. Your total debt came down about 10% in the quarter. Will debt repayment remain a priority for 2024? And where do you see your debt at year-end 2024, given the current strip?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, it certainly will. We really like our capital allocation framework. So 50% of our free cash flow committed to reducing our debt and the other 15% committed to capital return to shareholders. I anticipate that we'll finish 2024 with probably about a turn of leverage. So total debt in the range of our EBITDA, probably, I would say $2.2 billion is probably a pretty decent number. Yes, $2.1 billion to $2.2 billion is what I'm told.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, great. Thank you. That's really helpful. I will turn it back.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Thank you, Rob.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Philip Skolnick with Eight Capital. Please go ahead.

Philip Skolnick

Analyst

Yes, thanks. Good morning. My first question is just with respect to your first quarter production. How should we be thinking about oil production overall versus natural gas. Is your natural gas for Q4 did come in a bit above expectations.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. You're right, Phil, and thanks for the question. So Q1, I would anticipate probably in the bottom of our 150 to 156 range. So think kind of 150, which is where we've been discussing it in the budget conversation. And then if it's kind of 150 to 151 in that range as we turned out our budget, then make a small adjustment. I mentioned 2,000 BOE a day. Full-year is going to be right in line with the midpoint of our range. But we could be a little bit below what we talked about in the budget conversation. So I think it could be 149, 149.5 something like that as we work to overcome the production disruptions in -- as a result of the polar vortex. You're right. We actually have seen -- because we've seen such strong well performance out of our Eagle Ford, that well performance includes all phases, right? It includes natural gas, oil and NGLs. And the well performance has been, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, top quartile that has also brought on a fair amount of gas. And that gas has been resulted in probably a 1% or so change to our total liquids gas mix in Q4. But I would anticipate moving into Q1 that we're going to shift back into more balance with regard to our historical trends. So think kind of 84, possibly or right around there in terms of the liquids mix to gas. So things will trend back towards, I think a more balanced trend line.

Philip Skolnick

Analyst

Got it. Thanks. And then my other question is just are there any updates on Mannville and Waseca?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, so we have continued developing in the Cold Lake area the Waseca and have continued to learn and generate results we can continue to build forward. We haven't released those results yet, but we're encouraged by what we're learning. Certainly, that's the Waseca in the Mannville stack and the Cold Lake area on that new land extension and continued discoveries in that area. Then around the Morinville, the Rex and Morinville, likewise, we've continued to delineate those structures and understand kind of the extent of the structures and the quality of the reservoir, nothing really to report at this juncture in the conversation, but we're continuing to better understand the reservoir quality and better understand the extension structure. And then I think it's important here to point out, we actually made another land extension to the north and west of our Peace River area, an area we call Grizzly that is also exploratory that we feel very encouraged by in our understanding of its prospectivity. So more to come on that, but continued learnings and progress around the Waseca at Cold Lake, the Rex at Morinville, and the Bluesky in Grizzly.

Philip Skolnick

Analyst

Perfect, thank you.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Thank you, Phil.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session from the phone line. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Brian Ector for any questions received online.

Brian Ector

Analyst

All right. Thanks, Galey. And there are a lot of questions coming through on the webcast. So we do appreciate the level of engagement with our shareholders. I'm going to try to get to a number of the questions. If we don't get to your question, then I will follow up with you off-line. Eric, you alluded to it in one of the analyst questions but a number of investors are asking about our capital allocation framework, some questions around should we be allocating more to debt repayment. Others are asking, should we be increasing the buyback program. So do you want to just run through maybe a little bit of your thought process around the capital allocation process and what we're doing and what we're thinking going forward?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, it's a great question, Brian. And I appreciate the question through the web portal. These are -- this is not a perfect science, and we continue to engage with our shareholder community and our Board, and these are -- these are really interesting and intellectually stimulating conversations because, again, it's trade-offs and it's subjective. But we really do like the 50-50 framework. So 50% of the free cash flow generated goes to our debt. And if you think about the debt as a return on those on that marginal free cash flow dollar that is committed to that, if you think about the return on that. On an after-tax basis, that's for round numbers, let's call it 6%. So an after-tax return of 6% when you commit a marginal free cash flow dollar to the debt pay down, and you compare that to, if I'm doing back of the envelope math today, about a 16% free cash flow yield. And if you use that as a proxy measure for the return on a marginal free cash flow dollar applied to paying down equity or buying back shares. There are just two pools of capital and they have different underlying cost of capital associated with them. If you were buying a car or building a home or financing your business and you had one pool of capital that cost you 16% and one pool of capital that costs you 6%, then you would generally want to lean toward paying down the 16% of the higher cost pool first. And that generally guides this vision, but because there are also underlying dynamics between enterprise value, market cap and the debt component of enterprise value and how it shifts from EV as you pay down debt over to market cap, there are some underlying incentives to keep that allocation more balanced than a 16 to 6 would imply. And so -- based on all of this, what we've said is, look, you can't make a perfect formulaic answer. We like 50-50 because it recognizes the value of both sides of that. And the bonds actually trade really well. Last I looked, the bonds were trading at $104. So it's a really strong signal that the credit profile and credit worthiness and the debt is strong. And that also tends to tell us that continuing to push capital, free cash flow into our equity buyback is probably a really good place to focus. And so let me just pause with that, Brian. And happy to dig in a little bit more if there are other questions that need more but that is well parked.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay, thanks Eric. Another common theme coming through on the questions does relate to the noncash impairment that [indiscernible]. So a number of investors asking for maybe just a little bit more of an explanation behind the impairment on the nonoperated Eagle Ford and the retained Viking assets. Can you elaborate a little bit for people little bit of comfort with what we're doing, please?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Brian. So it's important to understand that, in particular, in E&P, every industry in different businesses kind of run on different foundational structures. Within E&P, what's most important in these businesses is the cash making capacity of a business. And a non-cash impairment is an accounting adjustment. It's not a cash measure. The cash making capacity of our business remains stronger than it's ever been. Q4 was a solid quarter, a solid finish to a transformational year, a strong company, significant base of quality assets with lots of opportunities. Our operational performance is better than it's ever been, and we're more diversified and resilient than we've ever been. But what lies underneath those non-cash impairments, those accounting adjustments really is an underlying conversation around provisions to the reserves. So the technical revisions were relatively small, 4% of our opening reserves balance. A majority of those technical revisions occurred on our non-operated Eagle Ford asset. And those were basically founded where we recognized steeper declines on wells drilled after 2017 as a result of tighter spacing. This is something that the industry at large has recognized across the unconventional space. And it's a little bit lumpy as to when people recognize these in their reserves and they take them. But it's not all together without President. So we wanted to have a little bit of a conversation just on where the majority of these technical revisions lie. Again, steeper declines on wells drilled after 2017 as a result of tighter spacing in our non-op Eagle Ford. And there were a few spacing adjustments related to infill development as well. We feel very good about where the book lies today. And I think going forward, in terms of the cash making capacity of this business, what's really important to these businesses, and that's better than it's ever been before. So a little bit disappointed in the reaction this morning. I understand, but I think it's a little bit of an overreaction to what is a non-cash accounting adjustment.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Eric. Let's shift a little bit to the -- to some operational questions that are now coming in as well. And here's one related to the Eagle Ford. As talking about the non-operated wells having similar results to our operative program, but the capital on the Ranger wells is higher, it's about 50% higher. What are the reasons, Eric for the higher well costs and -- at the same time, I think maybe you can speak to some of the efficiencies we're seeing from a drilling standpoint and our target to improve the efficiencies in 2024?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. Great question. So -- just to be clear, the Karnes trough, this is Karnes County, Southwestern Duet in that general area is I think, objectively, some of the very highest quality unconventional resource in North America, just very, very good resource, discovered in the mid-2000s, late 2000s and has been kind of held and locked up and developed over time, very, very high-quality resource, long in its development as we have recognized with our non-operated Karnes trough assets. Very good quality, but having been kind of developed over a lengthy period of time. As you move up to the north and east into the block of our Ranger lands, the concentrated contiguous block of our Ranger lands, the reservoir quality is good, but not as good as the Karnes trough. And so there's exceptional resource quality, the best in North America, that's the Karnes. And then there's one step down, I would call it, Tier 2 plus or Tier B plus, very high-quality resource. But in order to get the results to punch at the same level, you've got to work harder. You've got to spend more energy, intensity, hydraulic intensity, kinetic energy to shatter the resource in the reservoir and generate the fracture surface area necessary to liberate in slightly lower quality resource. And it's this fracture surface area, that generates the well performance that we're seeing, but it takes more effort and it takes more capital. And as a consequence of that, we're seeing very strong well performance, but we've got to work harder and we've got to spend a bit more capital. These are also longer laterals, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks. And so we're building efficiency in by drilling longer laterals and getting strong performance out of those longer laterals. And I think…

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay, Eric, just continuing on the Eagle Ford, maybe a bit of a two part question here. We have an investor asking about leasing programs or expanding acreage, sort of tuck-in bolt-on opportunities, what do we see in the Eagle Ford and maybe you could expand that even to Canada? And second part around the Eagle Ford would be would we even consider selling the non-operated Eagle Ford position?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. We -- so let me just take the last one first. We really like our Eagle Ford position, all of it. The non-op Eagle Ford, the operated Eagle Ford, the team in place today is getting the best out of both and putting them together in ways that elevate the combination. And so -- we're going to continue to realize both operational efficiencies and improvements and performance efficiencies and improvements over time. We're just six months in, and we put two back-to-back top quartile quarters in place. I couldn't be more proud of the team, and there's a lot more to come. In terms of the competitive and leasing landscape around our lands in the Eagle Ford, there are a lot of small opportunities, we're focused on small opportunities, tuck-ins, working interest acquisitions because they're very efficient. You're already investing the effort in developing. And if you can buy working interest in your own operated program, that's real efficient. So tuck-ins, working interest extensions, those allow us to drill longer laterals, be more efficient, take advantage of the capacity of our gathering and processing apparatus. So all of that's very efficient. And you won't see any of it, because no single transaction ever rises to the level of materiality, but we continue to work on efficiency and it hits the cost structure, improves the margins. In Canada, we talk openly about how strong our teams are, and in particular, around heavy oil. We've got three land extensions, two discoveries and continue to make good on the economic performance of those land extensions and discoveries. There will continue to be more to talk about there. I'd like to say three discoveries in three years and three land extensions on those discoveries. One was Peavine, it was spectacular. We had a land extension recently. Of course, Cold Lake, Waseca, and the Mannville, we just talked about. The Rex at Morinville, which is a clear water equivalent just north of Edmonton. And then, of course, the Grizzly near Peace River, the blue sky. And these are all highly prospective, and we've got the right team at the right time to take advantage of those opportunities. And then finally, I would say, within our Pembina Duvernay, we continue to unlock the secrets of that reservoir and there are opportunities in and around our current position where we will continue to look and possibly take advantage of. Again, they may not be large enough to ever hit materiality. So you may not know, but these things definitely improve the performance of the overall apparatus.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Your last question on the Eagle Ford. Relates [Technical Difficulty].

Eric Greager

Analyst

We actually do. So we continue to high grade our candidate list. Canada selection is probably the most important part of a refrac program. You've got to find candidates that have the right wellbore architecture, that have the right degree of primary cementing and zonal isolation. Tubulars that are large enough to be able to get in and out of without getting into ultra slim hole technologies that become a bit fragile for this kind of work. And we have a long list of candidates. The other thing that's important is the candidates have to date back to a vintage or a time when they were let's call it, under stimulated. These are the days back in the day when orate and zirconate crosslinkers were the thing and the very low volumes and low tonnage and leaving a lot of resource in the ground. To put it in just kind of scale context. Our position began developing in the early stages of the Eagle Ford development and many of those opportunities can now be reentered and reevaluated and restimulated. If for the sake of just illustration, let's say there are 40 million barrels of oil equivalent in a section in Eagle, just a representative number to put it in terms of scale. A full development program today in an unconventional like the Eagle Ford may recover 10% to 15% of the total resource in place. So 4 million to 6 million BOE of a 40 million BOE original resource in place number, that leaves 85% of the original resource still in place. And this is a time and a place and an opportunity at the right pricing and economics for refrac restimulations to extract some of that value that's left in the resource. And in some ways, other technologies that feel -- that look and feel like the unconventional version of EOR. And so lots of opportunities to continue to unlock in this. We're doing the science, the math and the physics today to better understand it. But we do have refracs in the ground and a long candidate list that we are currently evaluating and we'll be excited to talk about at the right time.

Brian Ector

Analyst

I do have one more question coming from the Eagle Ford and it relates to any constraints on completion activity. There is always, I think we are carrying index within the program at various points in time. But any constraints on the completion side of our business, Eric?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, we generally don't build just as a matter of practice. We don't build a doc inventory per se. So it's not an intentional effort to sort of build a doc inventory. We have a working doc inventory, so when -- for example, three rigs are running, they will be generating case and cemented well bores faster than the crew will be clearing them at the tail gate. And so you build a working doc inventory, but it will be cleared within a few quarters. And that’s really just a capital efficiency piece.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Perfect. Eric I want to shift to a couple of other maybe more economic themes that have come through on the webcast as well here. Can you discuss M&A and views on being a buyer or seller at this part of the cycle?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, what I can say is we've really like our five year plan. We took a lot of time and a lot of effort to put together. Our LRP which runs through the entire fold appellation cycle of our business. But we published our five-year plan. We're very pleased with it. We grow from 2024 to 2028 at notionally about 2% per year. And by 2028 we're 170,000 BOE a day business. We paid down our debt to about a $1 billion notionally at that point in 2028. And turn by turn even at reasonably -- price is reasonable by today's standards, so kind of close to support levels, we're generating billions of dollars of free cash flow and billions of dollars of that free cash flow will be returned to shareholders as well. So -- at the top line, over that five-year program, we're generating 2% per year top-line growth. We're taking, let's call it, 7% to 10% per year of our shares out through our NCIB. And we are generating a dividend as well. And so the total shareholder return associated with that very straightforward and reliable program over five years is meaningful, probably 10% per year on a TSR basis, and it results in a strong well-capitalized, low leverage business over time. That's what we're focused on today. And I think I'll just park that one there.

Brian Ector

Analyst

A bit of a financial-related question,, Eric, do we have any interest rate swaps on our floating rate debt? And if so, at what locked-in rate?

Eric Greager

Analyst

We don't.

Brian Ector

Analyst

We don't talk a little bit about the capital structure.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. Capital structure is very simple. It's a great question. It's very simple. It's very straightforward. We've got two issues out. 2027 this is high-yield senior unsecured debt. We've got the 2027 at $410 million. We've got the 2030s at $800 million. And those have a coupon, the 2030s have a coupon of 8.5 and the 2027s have a coupon of 8.75. And those, of course, are fixed firm term debt, staged out nicely so we can manage them. The balance is the floating debt that the individual investor was asking about. That's on our credit facility and we don't have any part of that subject to interest rate swaps or other constructs. It's really just -- it floats at a SOFR plus 225, I think, Chad, and so that basically moves up and down with a slight premium to SOFR. And as benchmark rates go up or down, it moves with it. But it is our first use of debt paydown is against our credit facility.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Another sort of financial-related question around the entire business and free cash flow generation. But what would be our current breakeven price, Eric, and I'm thinking in WTI terms here?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, in WTI terms, the way I think about this is at the asset level because we use individual asset level breakevens for capital allocation purposes. So the first call is on our lowest and your lowest breakeven and highest performing package of assets. And so we use breakevens to help us in capital allocation efficiencies. So the numbers that are in my mind range from the most defensive assets, which have breakevens in the 30s, WTI. And our least defensive or the assets that have the highest breakevens. And those have breakevens just under $60 WTI at the asset level. And so I would say -- let's just say notionally between kind of high 30s WTI and high 50s WTI and in the middle there you've got let's just say kind of mid-40s is kind of where the midpoint of the assets. And the beauty of this is because each of these steward out in Tier 1, Tier 2 and Tier 3. We don’t have to turn off capital to the selective tearing portions of the assets as defined by our kind of reservoir quality and asset quality tearing. And this allows us to be very, very flexible when prices move higher to take advantage of the torc and the upside. And when prices move lower to take advantage of the defensive nature of the assets and to turn off capital to those which have achieved a threshold level of let's call it 15% pretax IRR. We can switch those off and we can do so on a playbook that is already well established. And so this is the way we think about thriving in a volume of price environment. And it's also the construct you will see how this really does support the 60/100 collar structure.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Eric, can you comment on. And we've got time for I think, I'll give you maybe a couple questions here as we reach our limit. Can you comment on the Juniper position. [Indiscernible]?

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes, so. Juniper had three escrow whole periods, each one consisting of about 90 days and those whole periods started with the gloves on June 20th of 2023. So the first 90 days as soon as that first escrow whole period expired, Juniper was create a trade on one third of the total number of shares they had at the time. And that was let's just call it for the sake of illustration 51 million shares. That occurred I think on September 18th it was 51 million shares. It was an overnight bought deal on the U.S. and that was a first-third of what they held. They now hold about 12%, so it was 18% some third its about 12 remining today. That means they're deemed an insider, which is why we as a company, can't knowingly buy directly from an insider. And that's not the question the investor asked, but it's one of the reasons why we haven't been able to participate directly in those transactions. But what I would say is the second escrow whole period expired 90 days after the first one expired, which was before Christmas of 2023. Juniper still holds that position. It's our best understanding based on filings. They haven't sold any. There's been some -- maybe some changes to the way it's considered within their holding package, but I think they still hold all of those shares. They are available, and Juniper can choose when Juniper decides to, to sell those. Now the third escrow hold period will expire in March. And so that will add to the available shares for sale. And what I would say is a Juniper owns the shares just like everyone else that is a common shareholder, and they'll decide according to their own needs and desires when they sell.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Thanks, Eric. You've been very generous with your time here today. I do want to close. I had a number of comments and questions around the share price performance, both today and over a bit of a longer period of time. And so maybe you just reiterate your thoughts on the reaction today and maybe over a longer period of time. I mean you as a shareholder have been purchasing shares as well. What your comments as we wrap up.

Eric Greager

Analyst

Yes. So I am not at all happy with the share price performance, but transformational deals like the Ranger merger acquisition by merger, it creates certain overhangs and those overhangs take time to work off. The Juniper ownership is, in fact, one of those and probably a pretty significant contributor to the overhang. There will be in March, a 102 million shares available. And Juniper may hold those shares for ever, I just don't know, but they also might decide to sell them, and that creates a little bit of uncertainty around the shareholder community. Now in the first half of 2023, WTI languished a bit, kind of at an average WTI price of $75. And again, given the transformational nature of this transaction and its size relative to the legacy Baytex those prices weren't enough to create a great deal of excitement. But when prices rallied in the third quarter, we saw strong price performance, and that felt really good. It told us that there's a fundamental kind of understanding and some pent-up demand for the shares when prices do rally. I personally believe in the stock, I believe in the company, I believe in the teams. And I think we're demonstrating where it really counts at the cash level, at the cash cost level, at the cash making or generative capacity at the business level that this is a great business. And to believe in the business, believe in the teams, believe in the assets and the strategy. And I think the overhang will lift. The CRA matter didn't help. It just added a little bit of additional uncertainty. It didn't help. But we will continue delivering on our five year plan, delivering quarter-over-quarter. And I believe we are still a great value, and this is a great entry point in a very high-quality company so.

Brian Ector

Analyst

Okay. Thanks Eric. Well said. And I do think we are at our time limit for this call today. So thank you, Galen, and thank you to everyone for participating in our year-end conference call. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.