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Q2 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 31, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Anheuser-Busch InBev Second Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. Hosting the call today from AB InBev is Mr. Carlos de Brito, Chief Executive Officer. To access the slides accompanying today's call, please visit AB InBev's website now at www.ab-inbev.com and click on the Investors tab. Today's webcast will be available for on-demand playback later today. [Operator Instructions] Some of the information provided during the conference call may contain statements of future expectations and other forward-looking statements. These expectations are based on the management's current views and assumptions and involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties. It is possible that the company's actual results and financial condition may differ, possibly materially, from the anticipated results and financial condition indicated in these forward-looking statements. For a discussion of some of the risks and important factors that could affect the firm's future results, see Risk Factors in the company's latest annual report on Form 20-F filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on March 25, 2014. AB InBev assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking information provided during the conference call and shall not be liable for any action taken in reliance upon such information. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mr. Carlos de Brito. Sir, you may begin.

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Well, thank you, Jackie, and good morning, good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our second quarter 2014 results conference call. Let's start with the highlights of the quarter. The strong momentum built in the first 3 months of the year continued into the second quarter, with volumes benefiting from the FIFA World Cup. The World Cup provided us with a great opportunity to build equity for our brands as well, not only in the host country, Brazil, but in many other soccer-loving markets around the world. Beer volumes in our top 4 markets of the U.S., Mexico, Brazil and China were all in line or ahead of our expectations, supported by a strong Focus and Global Brands performance. Solid revenue growth and good cost management led to healthy EBITDA growth and margin expansion in spite of the timing of the sales and marketing investments to support our top line initiatives. Turning now to the details of these results. Total volumes grew by 1% in the quarter, with own beer volumes up 0.5% and non-beer volumes up nearly 6%. Our Focus Brands grew over 3%, and our 3 Global Brands grew 6%. Total revenue for the quarter grew by 5%, driven by the strong revenue management -- the strong revenue per hectoliter growth of 4.6% on a constant geographic basis. As planned, we increased sales and marketing investments by almost 10% in the quarter in support of our top line initiatives and by 13% year-to-date, driven mainly by World Cup activations. EBITDA grew by 9.5% in the quarter, with EBITDA margin expanding by 157 basis points to 39.8%. Normalized net profit grew by 74% in the quarter to $2.6 billion, and earnings per share grew by 72% to $1.60 per share. Our Global Brands delivered another strong result, with volumes growing…

Felipe Dutra

Management

Thank you, Brito, and good morning, good afternoon, everyone. Brito has covered our top markets in some detail, and you will find additional information about the other relevant markets in the appendix to today's presentation, as well as the press release. Slide 21, for those following the webcast, shows the EBITDA breakdown by zone for both the second quarter and the half year. As Brito mentioned, our total company EBITDA performance was very solid in the second quarter, with EBITDA growing by 9.5%, an organic increase of more than $400 million. EBITDA margin grew by over 150 basis points. The results in Latin America South were significantly impacted by the challenging macroeconomic environment in Argentina. Our own beer volumes declined by 8.9% in the quarter, driven mainly by industry performance, although volumes in July are much improved. Our beer volumes in the half year declined by 0.8%. The crisis in Ukraine continues to cause us concern, and our focus is on keeping our people safe. Volumes in Europe overall fell by 4.7% in the quarter, although if we exclude the impact of the crisis, the decline would have been only 0.7%. In fact, our former Western Europe markets implemented very strong World Cup programs and saw a combined volumes growth of 6.8% in the quarter. Let me give you an update on the cost synergies resulting from the combination with Grupo Modelo. During the quarter, we realized synergies of approximately $135 million, bringing the total cost savings to date to approximately $750 million. We still expect to deliver against our commitment of $1 billion of savings by the end of '16, with the majority of this coming by the end of '15. I would now like to quickly review our EPS and below EBIT results before we move to the…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question is coming from Melissa Earlam with UBS.

Melissa Earlam - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

A couple of questions, please, Brito and Felipe. Firstly, your guidance for sales and marketing...

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Melissa, can you speak a bit louder, please? This is Brito here.

Melissa Earlam - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

Just a question on sales and marketing costs. Your guidance is for low-teens growth for the year, and you did 13% organically in the first half. I'm just wondering whether we should assume that the spread of growth is actually more even H1-H2 than, perhaps, people had anticipated. And then the follow-up question is regarding distribution costs. You've increased guidance a little bit in terms of the increase we should expect for the full year. Could you just comment on which additional opportunities you saw specifically to drive that increase?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Melissa, Brito here. So first, in terms of sales and marketing, we'll stick to our guidance in terms of what was said before. And I think we should look at this more on a yearly basis as opposed to quarter -- on a quarterly basis or half-year basis. So again, our guidance hasn't changed. In terms of distribution expenses, we -- Felipe, would like to comment on that?

Felipe Dutra

Management

Well, we updated the guidance of low-single-digits growth to mid-single digits. And in beer, we do see some cost increases in relevant markets like Brazil, U.S. and Mexico. However, particularly in Brazil, this increase is linked to the increase of direct distribution volumes from approximately 67% to 70%, which is more than offset by higher revenues, which is accretive at the bottom line and therefore, not a reason for concern.

Melissa Earlam - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

And specifically, in Mexico, is this related to increasing your direct distribution for print as well?

Felipe Dutra

Management

No, direct distribution level in Mexico is already very high, much higher than Brazil, and it has been reasonably stable. That is, in Mexico, it's really more linked to the cost per barrel.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Anthony Bucalo with Santander.

Anthony J. Bucalo - Grupo Santander, Research Division

Analyst · Anthony Bucalo with Santander

The market share issues in the U.S., the U.S. strategy has been in place for about 5 years now, and we've just seen the sort of gradual ticking down of market share in the U.S. sort of quarter after quarter. And one of your main competitors in liquor this morning said that they will probably get more promotional with their lead vodka brand. Are you concerned that the pricing strategy and the premiumization strategy may have run its course? And what is your concern about market share going forward? Where do you see the sort of critical point where you need to sort of turn that around?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Tony, Brito here. First, as I said, I mean, our revenue management strategy in the U.S. has been very consistent over the last 5 years. We're doing pretty much what we said we would do when we got here 5 years ago. We also said back then that we anticipated some issues in getting our mix to be a better mix and getting value to be less relevant and the premium -- and the Bud Premium to be more relevant and that we felt beer was very affordable. So we act on those things. We create a lot of value. And we also said that we're very committed to share stabilization. We didn't put a date to this, but if you know us in other markets, we like to create issues in the short term for the benefit of long term, but of course, as long as we close the gap in the short term. So we're very committed to that. Unfortunately, we haven't been able yet to balance all sorts of different initiatives in the U.S. So this quarter, for example, we're very excited for Bud Light. I think if there's one thing that you come back all the time is that your main brand has to be your focus all the time, and the Bud Light has 20% share of the U.S. market, it's an amazing feat, and performed very well this quarter. It's performing very well this year and within the quarter, performed better every month, including flat STRs during the month of June. So this shows that the investments that we're making behind our biggest brand are working. It's gaining share within the premium light segment. And again, last month of the quarter, flat overall. Aluminum bottle has been a very important feature for Bud Light…

Anthony J. Bucalo - Grupo Santander, Research Division

Analyst · Anthony Bucalo with Santander

Okay. So you're comfortable with the strategy going forward here?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Simon Hales with Barclays.

Simon Hales - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Simon Hales with Barclays

Quick one on Brazil if I can. I'm interested in your thoughts, Brito, around the consumer dynamics in Brazil at the moment. Clearly, in the quarter, you benefited from, obviously, the World Cup, but I think if you stripped out that benefit, underlying volumes were probably going near the 1% level for you in the quarter. Certainly, listening to some of your consumer-staples peers over the last -- for a couple of weeks, they've been talking pretty bearishly about recent consumer offtake trends in Brazil. I'm just wondering what your thoughts are as we look into the second half, even ahead of you perhaps taking price increases on beer to offset some of the tax rises we've got coming down the pipes. And just secondly, just a quick follow-up. Felipe, you mentioned the Ukraine in the quarter being weak. I don't think you put a volume number on it. I'd just be interested on what the volume decline was.

Felipe Dutra

Management

Okay.

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

All right. So Simon, in terms of the 1% that you mentioned without the World Cup volume, I would correct that to 2.6% because if you take the Confederations Cup -- I mean, if you decide to take the World Cup from this year, it's only natural that you take also from the base of last year the Confederations Cup, and then volume is 2.6% growth without the World Cup. So that would be the number to look at. In terms of the consumer dynamic in Brazil, unemployment rate continued to be -- continues to be at very low historical rate of around 5%. Disposable income growth has accelerated during this quarter, and that's because food inflation in -- among other things, because food inflation also remained stable during this quarter, while beer inflation is currently even below general inflation. So it is true the consumer confidence is a bit down from previous periods, and we have the macros that have not changed. I mean if we look at the LDA growth until the year 2030, it's projected to grow 1.5% every year. Real income growth is still positive, and we have incremental benefit from the premiumization of the market [indiscernible]. So consumers are trading up. Middle class continues to grow. So the focus on Brazil going forward, I believe that was part of your question, or that is seen for this year has improved much, fourfold. First, increase demand and expand consumption occasions. So in terms of pack price strategies, expand the 300 ml returnable and the 1 liter returnable packages, introduce other packaging and liquid innovations to stimulate demand. So that's a big driver, we think, for that per capita consumption that still lags in parts of Brazil or in the country as a whole compared to other…

Simon Hales - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Simon Hales with Barclays

And specifically, Brito, just in terms of -- at the end of Q2, there's no excess stock in the trade channels that have got to be sort of depleted out before we start to see any new shipments [indiscernible].

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

No, no. Nothing to really mention because, luckily, I mean, Brazil went far enough in the tournament to get those ones going, and everybody was very involved up until the end, and the weather proved also to help. So in a way, I think there was good turn, good velocity. And yes, so the answer to your question is no.

Felipe Dutra

Management

And on the second question linked to Ukraine, as you would imagine, the crisis continues to cause us concern, and our focus remains the one of keeping our people safe. However, in the second quarter, we've seen volumes decline of 27% versus same quarter of last year, and we believe that the trading environment will remain challenging in light of the political instability.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sanjeet Aujla of Credit Suisse. Sanjeet Aujla - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: A couple of questions, please. Firstly, on Mexico, are you able to quantify the impact of the glass shortage on volumes? How significant was that, really? And on Oriental, are you able to talk a bit about that now that you've integrated the business, what the margin opportunity and top line opportunity is there for you guys?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Sanjeev, I mean in terms of Mexico, we haven't quantified what the glass shortage is -- it has really, and this is public, I mean, has really caused us issues in the second quarter not only in the Mexican domestic market but also markets outside of Mexico. So on a global scale, the glass shortage -- and that was mainly due to the fact that demand across a variety of markets came way out of our expectations and -- plus the glass supply constraints. So Corona has shown strong performance in the first half of the year, with 7.6% volume growth globally, excluding the U.S. And we're currently working with our customers around the globe to manage inventories and minimize disruption of supply, which is improving as we continue to work hard to resolve the situation, including July. It's already much improved. So we're very excited about Corona. It has a global potential. In Mexico, it proved, again, that it's healthy. The World Cup was a big proof point of that, growing 10%. It's #1 in terms of preference. So again, great platform to grow there and also great platform to grow, especially as we bring Corona back to our system. And if you look in Western Europe, we have it back in all markets but the U.K. In the U.K., it's coming next January. In Canada, it's back and doing very well, gaining share in Canada, by the way. In APAC, we took the rights over on August 1, so tomorrow. We'll start having it. In Korea, it's already with us. We're going to launch in Brazil before the end of the year. And in LAS, we reached an agreement with CCU to repatriate the brand back to us in Argentina. So I mean in our main countries, the brand's back with us, and we're seeing -- if you look at Budweiser, it's a global brand. And what happened the last 5 years, we see some of the same could happen to Corona and are working towards it. In terms of OB, your second question, I mean we're very happy with the integration. As I said, volumes for this quarter, 10% up; EBITDA, 120% up. So the momentum is there. Our colleagues are really topnotch. They understand the business. They have great performers, and the integration is going very well. So in the next few quarters, we're going to provide more details, but at this point, that's what I can share with you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Trevor Stirling with Sanford C. Bernstein. Trevor Stirling - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co., LLC., Research Division: Would you please tell us what the latest news is on the taxation in Brazil, the tax that was deferred? Are there still negotiations going on? Is there a possibility of further deferral or not?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Well, Trevor, what we know is what's public. I mean the last statement from the government was the postponement of the reference base price update. That was originally announced for April. That was postponed. And also in that announcement, they said that when implemented, that they would do it on a gradual way. So we, as an industry, of course, welcomed this decision and are working together with the sector, alongside with the government, to discuss this next step. But at this point, there's no confirmation yet of how this gradual schedule will be implemented. But we continue to work with the government. And what we call the cold beverage sector in Brazil, we'll continue to work with the federal government. And the main intent here is to show, once again, to the authorities that tax revenues can grow the same way but based on a lower tax burden on the industry, enabling a greater volume growth and further investments with no pressure on inflation. So that has been the focus of the discussion. Trevor Stirling - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co., LLC., Research Division: My follow-up question, Brito, you talked about the weakness of Budweiser in the United States. Is that just a matter of the tough comps on Black Crown, or is there weakness inside the core brand franchise as well?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

No, the brand health for Budweiser mother brand is doing very well, especially with young consumers. It is true that some of the consumers that are leading the category by means of age or demographics and the guys that are coming in, this balance is not there yet. So we continue to work and to accelerate the connection with young adults to be able to bridge the gap and get the brand to be healthier going forward. What's happening this -- what happened this quarter, as I said, is that the comp was a very tough comp, so 50 basis points decline for the family compared to 15 in the same quarter last year. But again, we continue to have many programs for the brand going forward. So for example, for the second half of the year, we have the Budweiser Made in America Festival now in the West Coast as well. That has proven to be an amazing instrument to connect with the LDA 27 cohort. We have the Major League Baseball activations. We have the launch of Budweiser in the 16-ounce aluminum bottle, so we're taking the aluminum bottle that has been a big driver for Bud Light now also to Budweiser. And we're going to have a big holiday activation this year, the first time in many years, for Budweiser. Budweiser used to do that activation around Christmas and the year end in the past. For many years, did not do it. And this year, we're coming back with that tradition. So again, I think the brand is pointing in the right direction in terms of brand health. I think there is enough support behind the brand. But we're going through that phase in that we're bridging consumer profile that's changing within the brand franchise. So that's the -- what you have to go through when you're trying to bridge those 2 different situations.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andrea Pistacchi with Citi.

Andrea Pistacchi - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst · Andrea Pistacchi with Citi

I have a couple of questions on China, please. The first one is you're clearly doing -- I mean, in terms of profit, this was another excellent quarter in China. I think about $100 million of organic EBITDA growth there. Now besides very good mix, what's driving this? And what really has changed -- since end of 2012 is when you started delivering consistent and very good margin expansion every quarter. So has something changed since then? And then a follow-up on Corona, which you said you're taking back tomorrow in China. How do you plan to position it versus Budweiser? Obviously, Budweiser is doing incredibly well there, so is there a risk of cannibalizing some of its success?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Two very good points about China. I mean, China, first, we're very happy with the development in terms of profitability in China, and that's a direct consequence of our strategy that has been very stable and consistent since 2009, when we joined with AB and had the Budweiser and the Harbin brand. EBITDA grew this quarter by almost 66%, and that is because of our revenue growth initiatives, our mix that's growing the right direction. So we're trading up, so Bud and Harbin being more and more important in the overall mix. And also some improved operating leverage. So as you grow the business, of course, you not only grow but you also optimize the business. So as you do a greenfield, for example, and the beer is now available in that region, you have to travel less compared to what you're doing before that greenfield was there. So your logistics is optimized. As Budweiser's produce also in more breweries, again, the logistics is optimized. As you become more of a bigger company there, scale starts benefiting you, so the same people doing more. So I think it's a whole bunch of virtual circle taking place in China. So this quarter, of course, the timing of sales and marketing benefited the EBITDA growth. So let's not forget that. But you're right. I mean if you forget the quarter-on-quarter comparisons and if you look at the yearly developments, you're right to say that margin has appreciated and China has grown. And we believe that we still have room to continue to do the same because the fundamentals are in place and, better than that, they are working. In terms of Corona, I think it's amazing because if you think that our whole idea in China is to become -- not to…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Edward Mundy with Nomura.

Edward Mundy - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division

Analyst · Edward Mundy with Nomura

In the U.S., your revenue per hectoliter of 1.5% in Q2, are you able to split out the difference between price and mix? And how do you see revenue per hectoliter progressing into next year? Do you feel you need a more liquid-centric innovation pipeline for 2015?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Well, in the U.S., I mean, yes, we have said last quarter that we should expect for the next 2 quarters, second quarter and third quarter, with the fourth quarter being better, that revenue per hectoliter would be impacted by brand and package mix in a way that would lower the overall net revenue per hectoliter growth. And that's what we anticipated, and that's what we see this quarter and we should see again next quarter and the fourth quarter being better. And that's a direct consequence of some of the innovations that we did this year that are doing very well share-wise, doing very well margin-wise. But the 16-ounce reclosable aluminum bottle, for example, is one that is, together with the 25-ounce can, is one that's dilutive at top line but accretive at gross profit. So what we said last quarter is valid for this quarter and for the next quarter because we're cycling those 2 launches. In fourth quarter, we should be, let's say, back to normal again.

Edward Mundy - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division

Analyst · Edward Mundy with Nomura

And Brito, for next year?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Well, for next year, again, we're not giving any guidance, but we'll continue to invest behind our base and big brands like Bud Light, Budweiser, the high-end brands and Michelob Ultra. Those are the key brands that make up our business, along with the value brands as well, not to be forgotten. And we'll continue to invest behind innovations as well. So I mean, unchanged. But again, the only different thing about this 3 quarters is the lapping of package innovation that, again, is accretive for margin and share but not at top line and sales. So that's what's diluting. So fourth quarter onwards, we should see a more normal picture.

Edward Mundy - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division

Analyst · Edward Mundy with Nomura

Okay. And as a follow-up, on a separate point, there was an article on Reuters on the 11th of July that seems to imply that your business is focused on Latin America and Asia, and ABI is slightly more lukewarm towards Africa. So I'd just clarify the context of that. Is it really from an organic as opposed to inorganic perspective?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

No, I think that came from a conference we had in Rio, in which, when asked about new markets or growth markets, we said that our focus in terms of investment CapEx these days are really in Latin America and Asia, mostly, of course, Brazil and China. That's what I answered. And I also said that I saw in Asia, because the question continued more specifically in Asia, I said that I saw -- that we'd continue to see huge opportunity for growth in Asia. When you think about our footprint today, I mean, not only our businesses are doing very well in China, but now we have Korea, the leading brand -- or be the leading brand in Korea. We have Corona. And our Belgium brands and Budweiser are doing very well in Australia. We have Vietnam, in which we have a presence, a growing presence, and we're going to start a brewery next year to have even more of a portfolio there. And we have, in a very small scale, India also doing very well. So I mean when I look at India and the opportunities it offered together with Latin America and its growth that we've known forever, I mean those are the 2 growth platforms for the company today. That's what I said at the summit.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Caroline Levy of CLSA.

Caroline S. Levy - CLSA Limited, Research Division

Analyst · Caroline Levy of CLSA

If you could clarify why you think July improved in Argentina and whether that seems like a sustainable improvement, if that's actually positive? And the second question is, how are you improving the supply of glass? And is that something that will get you to where you need to be to be fully supplied for next summer? If you could just size that out for us, please.

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Okay. In terms of your question, how can we say that July is better, well, because we have the numbers and...

Caroline S. Levy - CLSA Limited, Research Division

Analyst · Caroline Levy of CLSA

No, sorry, the question is, why is July better, like what changed in Argentina?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Sorry, I misunderstood your question. Sorry about that. So let me step back and give you the full picture. The second quarter volume performance was very impacted, of course, as we know, by the macro environment in Argentina, which led to an industry-driven volume decline in the country. So we had double-digits drop in April, okay, followed by a lower mid-single digit decline in May and June. So April was really when the crisis hit at its worst, at least so far. And then May and June, you already saw a better picture, and in July, a much improved picture. A couple of things there. First, the inflation, of course, was really higher than anybody could have anticipated, and that hit consumers hard. But most of the salary negotiations only kicked in, in the month of June. So in April, May, consumers, they were really pressured in between having inflation growing every month and salary not yet there. So now salaries are corrected, and I think that's beginning to flow into the economy. So real wage has decreased, but now, at least nominally, is back up to a much better place than April, May. So I think that's one big portion there that is impacting positively the end of the second quarter and July. And we believe it will also -- July is a good sign for -- if you compare it to the second quarter, that the second quarter was really a bad time of this year, year-to-date.

Caroline S. Levy - CLSA Limited, Research Division

Analyst · Caroline Levy of CLSA

And then on the glass side, I mean how are you addressing that shortage? And does it sort of disappear over the winter or...

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

That's a supply chain classic problem. I mean if you have a plan and you -- supply can always, within certain boundaries, deal with pluses or minus within a certain tolerance. But the fact is that all markets demanded more than the plan and away from that tolerance. And then what was really the issue was glass supply. So now that the summer, in terms of inventories, are being rebuilt again and July shows a much better picture, now supply, of course, is tapping up different sources of glass, and so glass supply is in a better place. And now after the summer, in North America and Europe, as demands -- and in Mexico, as demands go down a little bit because of seasonality, supplier have its opportunity to really refill the inventories in the pipeline. So that's the story about glass supply. I mean demand that was way higher than plan, supply not being able to react overnight, but now with 2 months being able to react, and therefore, better numbers now for July.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Eric Serotta with ISI Group.

Eric Serotta

Analyst · Eric Serotta with ISI Group

I'm wondering if you could go into the U.S. business in a little bit more detail? Can you give us a sense of what happened on the on-premise initiatives that you talked about last year, some of the initiatives in terms of improving distributor execution and then your craft initiatives, specifically Goose Island, Blue Point, as well as Cider?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Let me touch on -- it's a broad question, so let me touch on many of the points. So on-premise, we're very happy with the performance. I think I mentioned that on Bud Light, one of the drivers for that share performance has been the on-premise, as well as the aluminum bottle, as well as the summer campaign we have here. So that has been good. But of course, it's a long-term track proposition. Today, we have more than 330 brand activation managers in the marketplace. We didn't have that a year ago. So these people are trained to develop and to deal with the on-trade, and that has to do mainly, but not only, with draft but also packaging. And also, it's going to benefit a lot our main brands and the high-end brands. So that's something that we lost room in the on-trade in years past, and now we're here to regain what's ours, given our share in our brands. So that's the on-premise. The other parts of your question, wholesaler, yes, wholesale execution, we continue to improve. I mean our wholesaler system is a big asset that we have in the U.S. Our AOE or excellence program is a big thing today in our relationship. We have a whole ritual and process in terms of sharing best practices, awarding the best performers, having 2 conventions a year to, again, award the performers, exchange best practice, talking and aligning on what's to come. So I think it's very important that we have also defined 2 or 3 years ago what anchor wholesalers means. It's very clear today what we see as an anchor wholesaler, and that's clear for the system. So again, the wholesalers have been a big partner in our innovations and executions in the marketplace, a big asset. And we continue to be very close to them through the panel and through the excellence program. So that's on the positive side.

Felipe Dutra

Management

The third one is craft strategy.

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

The third one is craft strategy. So we're growing in the high-end, as I said. I mean, we grew 20 bps with our high-end brands, and Michelob Ultra also grew by 15 bps, if I'm not mistaken, right, because of the numbers. And so the high-end, we have Goose Island doing very well. We have Shock Top doing very well. We have Blue Point now also doing very well. We're not giving numbers for everything, but this is all part of the high-end strategy. And we also have the import brands led by Stella, also having a very good year. So I think the high-end is a mix of all these things. Yes, it's the so-called craft. But also, with our 600 years of history in Europe, there's a lot to be said about our European brands and its potential in markets like the U.S. So that's also part of our high-end strategy. So we're very committed to it, and it's where a lot of the growth is, and it's where a lot of the profits are. So that's very good, together with, of course, our main business that brings us the scale and the share in the marketplace. So that's pretty much our strategy going forward.

Eric Serotta

Analyst · Eric Serotta with ISI Group

Can you give us any kind of numbers or metrics around Goose Island and around your ciders?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

I don't think those are public numbers at this point, Robert, but again, this is part of our high-end strategy, which is gaining share, as I just said. So that's -- yes, that's what I would say at this point.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Holland of Societe Generale.

Andrew Holland - Societe Generale Cross Asset Research

Analyst · Andrew Holland of Societe Generale

Can I just ask on your China margin -- obviously, up very strongly in the quarter. It was up, I think 440 bps in Q1, 620 in Q2. I'm guessing you don't want us to get sort of carried away, thinking that this is an accelerating margin performance. Can you give us an idea, maybe with reference to those 2 numbers, what your expectation is for the full year when we take account of the timing of your sales and marketing expenditure? That would be the first question.

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

We don't give guidance, Andrew, but I'm very glad you asked this question because what I would like to say is that I don't see in China because, again, let me step back, the margin has been -- EBITDA margin has been increasing in China in the last many years, so this is not a new thing. I wouldn't call what we've seen in the last 2 quarters an inflection point of any sort. So what I would say is that those were great quarters for different reasons, but I'm not saying that these are quarters that should be taken in consideration to project the next 2, for example. But what I would say is that margin expansion in China is a reality. It's based on fundamentals that are working, and therefore, I should continue along the same, let's say, trend that we've had in the last few years.

Andrew Holland - Societe Generale Cross Asset Research

Analyst · Andrew Holland of Societe Generale

Okay. And just a question on OB, I guess you were asked earlier about that. Can I specifically ask whether you're able to quantify the synergies and also whether you're able to say what the base EBITDA was? Because when you originally announced the deal, you said that the EBITDA was EUR 500 million -- sorry, $500 million, but that was not prepared on your basis. Now you had a chance to look at it. Can you say what the base EBITDA was?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

In terms of EBITDA, there was no major difference, I mean, so you can take that as the true base for the business. And the first part of the question was...

Andrew Holland - Societe Generale Cross Asset Research

Analyst · Andrew Holland of Societe Generale

Synergies, any chance of quantification?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Andrew, this was a different kind of combination because when you think about it, this business was ours just 5 years ago. And what [indiscernible] did is that they really continued to grow the business on the same basis, did a very good job. So it's not a business that we go in and our systems are not present, that the culture still is different. I mean, no. I mean you got there, and our systems and the way we run the business were there. So it's not a business that would -- the other thing, on the other hand, is that I would say that the multiple at which we were able to integrate the business was a very good multiple, and I think that's where a lot of the value creation, for sure, was as opposed to announcing synergy. One thing I could say without giving you a number is that, of course, there'll be synergies because now the company is back to being part of a larger organization, and therefore, procurement is the first thing that comes to mind. Back office support, analytical, Global Brands, I mean toolkits like the World Cup. I mean Cass, for example, was the local sponsor for the World Cup. I mean that would not have happened hadn't we merged. So I mean I think those are all things that will contribute to the business but we decided not to quantify this time because, again, this is not a new business for us. It's a business that had a 5-year leave of absence. Let's put it this way. And now it's back with the same systems and pretty much with a few exceptions, the same colleagues that we had and that are performing very well, great colleagues to be back. So that's Korea.

Operator

Operator

Our final question comes from the line of Lauren Torres of HSBC.

Lauren Torres - HSBC, Research Division

Analyst · HSBC

My question is on Mexico. And Brito, you've done a great job integrating that business and taking margins into the mid to high 40s. Just curious if you view that as a sustainable margin, if there's room for upside from there. It seems quite high, but it seems like the right number. And then obviously, we're a year now, and the cost synergy number is maintained. Any color on revenue synergies? It seems like, once again, being a year in, you have better visibility on the brand, whether it be domestically or globally, and your plans for further expansion of the portfolio.

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Lauren, good point. I mean our guys in Mexico deserve the credit for this last one year and the preparation for this integration. I mean our Mexican colleagues have delivered an amazing job. The Mexican margin has proved that. And as in all other business that we have, we like this thing about margin expansion. We think it's interesting. It's exciting. It's about being more efficient. And we continue to see opportunities in Mexico, as well as in the other zones. In terms of revenue synergies in Mexico, we didn't put a number to it as we normally only talk about cost synergies, but if you think about the Corona potential in Mexico, again, just look at the World Cup, the proof point is there. If you look at Bud Light, in the northern part of Mexico, but also in the whole country. If you look at Stella, they launched in Mexico, where the premium segment is way underdeveloped. Then you look at own businesses like the Modeloramas, where we see a huge opportunity to grow as a trade format and direct distribution best practices because in Mexico, we have 85% as direct distribution. That's one thing our company, our people have lots of toolkits to implement. And again, our colleagues in Mexico have been very open to exchange best practice, and that has been the key secret why these changes have kicked in so quickly and so in a sustainable fashion, allowing [indiscernible], even with the whole synergy integration taking place, the top line grew. So that was a -- we could have the one and the other. So that's Mexico.

Lauren Torres - HSBC, Research Division

Analyst · HSBC

And can I just ask as a follow-up, are there other markets, like what you mentioned with Corona and China from Carlsberg, that you're potentially going to regain the brand? Is there anything imminent on that front?

Carlos Alves de Brito

Management

Yes, I mean, in Europe, we just regained a brand in main markets this year. And in the U.K., there's a big market for the brand where we're going to regain it in January next year, 2015. In Canada, we regained in March this year. I mean -- and in Brazil, it's a white territory for the brand. We're going to launch it before the end of this year. Of course, as you launch a premium brand in a very seeding type way. And in Argentina, we also just got the brand back from CCU. So I mean in our main markets, the brand's back, and that's good news for me. Thank you, Lauren, and thank you, everybody, for all your questions and your time. Again, just 3 points to sum it up. I mean we had a strong momentum going from the first quarter into the second quarter, and we're going to continue to work very hard to get it in the second half of the year as well. The World Cup was a great opportunity not only for the 5-week period but also, we're sure will have lasting effects, positive effects on our brands, global brand and local brands that were connected to the tournament. And the summer is in full swing. That's very important for a lot of our markets, and we're very excited about the programs we have and the activations. And thank you very much again, and I'll see you on October 31. Have a great day. Bye-bye. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference and webcast. Please disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.