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Broadwind, Inc. (BWEN)

Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 5, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Broadwind Third Quarter 2020 Results Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Jason Bonfigt, Chief Financial Officer of Broadwind. Thank you. You may begin.

Jason Bonfigt

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to the Broadwind Third Quarter 2020 Results Conference Call. Leading the call today is our CEO, Eric Blashford; and I'm Jason Bonfigt, the company's CFO. We issued a press release before the market opened today detailing our third quarter results. I would like to remind you that management's commentary and responses to questions on today's conference call may include forward-looking statements, which, by their nature, are uncertain and outside of the company's control. Although these forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to the Risk Factors section of our latest annual and quarterly filings with the SEC. Additionally, please note that you can find reconciliations to the historical non-GAAP financial measures discussed during our call in the press release issued today. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Eric.

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Thanks, Jason, and welcome to those joining us today. During the period of pandemic-related market disruption, we have continued to advance our long-term strategy through targeted end-market diversification, operational execution, cost discipline and a pursuit of new organic growth opportunities that leverage our precision manufacturing expertise. Our third quarter performance was mixed as our core wind markets outperformed our more cyclical, non-wind end markets in the period. Pandemic-related disruptions to our supply chain and workforce had a material impact on margin realization during the quarter, resulting in lower operating efficiency despite a year-over-year growth in revenue. Importantly, despite these headwinds, we continue to ship product to our customers on time while taking all necessary and appropriate actions to ensure business continuity. Let's begin on Slides 4 and 5. Revenue increased 18% on a year-over-year basis, driven mainly by increased demand for wind towers. Wind market revenue increased by more than 35% versus the third quarter 2019 with tower section volumes sold, up approximately 30% year-over-year. We are in active discussions with our tower customers regarding 2021 capacity and have begun to accept orders for 2021. Currently, approximately 35% of 2021 tower capacity is booked. Our total backlog declined 12% sequentially while total orders were flat sequentially, with the exception of our steel market, which experienced both sequential and year-over-year growth in orders. All other non-wind market segments posted year-over-year decline in orders. While manufacturing activity has increased at a modest pace in recent months, following shelter-in-place orders issued earlier this year, non-wind customer activity remains well below prior year levels. In multiple cases, customers have indicated their intention to postpone orders initially planned for this year into early 2021, implying a gradual recovery in non-wind market demand heading into 2021. Turning to a discussion of our segment-level performance. Heavy Fabrications…

Jason Bonfigt

Analyst

Thanks, Eric. Third quarter consolidated sales were $54.6 million, up from $46.1 million in the prior year quarter despite pandemic-related operational challenges. These challenges were manifested both in significant supply chain disruptions, where multiple suppliers were either behind schedule or could not meet quality specifications, together with labor availability as the pandemic impacted both employees and their families in the states where we operate. Despite these challenges, we continue to meet our customer commitments. The quarter-over-quarter increase in revenue was driven by improved plant utilization in our Heavy Fabrications segment, which benefited from increased tower demand, where we produced for 3 wind turbine OEMs in the quarter. Our TTM consolidated sales was $207.4 million exiting the third quarter, which now includes approximately $63 million of non-wind revenue. Since launching our revenue diversification initiative, we made significant progress into non-wind markets, and continue to focus building that book of business. Compared to the prior year quarter, gross margins declined 190 basis points to 6.8% in the third quarter. The supply chain and staffing disruptions, which drives labor inefficiencies because we are working out of optimal process, impacted gross profit by approximately $600,000 to $700,000. Several customer projects delays into future periods, which we announced in early August, also weighed on margins during the quarter. The year-over-year change in gearing performance drove 270 basis point decline in gross margin. Operating expenses as a percent of sales was approximately 8% and below our long-term target of 10%, primarily due to improved plant utilization, effective cost management and higher material content on the product mix sold. We are prudently managing operating expenses as evidenced by flat expenses year-over-year on an 18% revenue increase. Within OpEx, increased self-insured medical expenses were offset by lower incentive compensation expenses. And interest expense declined to $500,000 from $600,000…

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Thanks, Jason. Our country has been hit with a series of historic challenges this year. During this period of widespread volatility, our leadership team remains focused on positioning the business for profitable growth. In application, this means continuing to grow market share in both our legacy onshore wind and non-wind markets while continuing to explore potential entrance into the offshore wind space. As for our response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we're continually monitoring the potential impact of the virus on our operations, customers and supply chain. We've implemented all necessary and appropriate protocols as recommended by the U.S. CDC to ensure the continued well-being of our team. Our businesses are considered essential and critical infrastructure as defined by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and we remain open and operational. Throughout this pandemic, we've continued to produce and ship products to meet our customers' needs. Our order rates have declined since the COVID-19 outbreak as our customers are dealing with the overall economic uncertainty we're all facing. However, our quoting activity has increased in recent weeks, pointing to a first half of 2021 recovery in orders. The full impact of the virus on our business and end markets remains difficult to quantify. But we anticipate the current availability under our credit line and PPP proceeds will provide adequate liquidity to support our business during this period of uncertainty. Moving on to an update of markets served and our continuing diversification initiative. On a TTM basis, our non-wind revenue represents about 30% of total revenue. We continue to pursue opportunities outside of the wind sector to offset the lumpy timing of wind orders. We are seeing continued growth in our industrial markets, which include material handling and infrastructure projects, with power generation and mining remaining relatively stable. These markets are partially…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Eric Stine

Analyst

So I'm wondering if we could start with wind. I know that you've been looking at this for a bit of time in terms of offshore. And I'm just curious, I mean, obviously, whether it's the political backdrop, any number of other factors that go into it, what are kind of the next things that we should look for in terms of your actions here and potentially the timing, if that's something that you could share?

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Well, what I will share is that we've been out to site, taking a look at -- evaluating different sites on the East Coast to do a greenfield -- to do a greenfield plant. You've heard me mention that the Manitowoc operation has the capabilities to do offshore wind, and that would be the quickest entrance into the market, but that might be a long putt because of the cost of transport from our Manitowoc plant to the East Coast. So we are evaluating, as I said, locations on the East Coast. As far as the next steps, again, we're in discussions with our OEM customers and they're in discussions with their developers. And as they mature and get closer, then we will come to a conclusion together as -- whether or not this makes sense commercially to actually do a build on the East Coast. As far as timing, Eric, if we're to hit the first tranche of offshore installations, which is occurring in 2023, assuming it doesn't move more to the right because of permitting or whatnot, then we would likely need to have a decision sometime in Q1 or Q2 2021, which would give us enough time to build a factory and get it up to speed in order to hit those initial installations in 2023.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Yes. Got it. No, that's helpful. And maybe just sticking with wind, you mentioned that for 2021, you've got 35% of your effective or the effective capacity that you'd like to run at. Can you just give us a sense? I mean, at this time -- and maybe it's a tough comparison to make because last year was so heavy as people tried to get in front of long lead times in the PTC here in 2020. I mean, how do you feel about this number? In a more typical year, is 35% a typical number? Or are you ahead or, I guess, potentially behind where you would have been?

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Yes, that's a good question. We are -- this is a typical year, and we're right, frankly, where we normally are in a normal year. So as this quarter continues towards the end of this year and into next year, we'll have a lot more visibility. But yes, this is common. Last year was an anomaly because of the -- they order ahead, if you will, because of the strong 2020. And we're in discussions with multiple OEMs for that production as well. So that is encouraging to us as well.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Yes. Okay. Got it. And then maybe last one for me. Just on the fourth quarter commentary, you gave a lot of detail in terms of trends in the various end markets, wind, but also non-wind as part of that diversification. But maybe from a high level, just kind of some puts and takes that would get you to the low end versus the high end of that 4Q outlook?

Eric Blashford

Analyst

We have this range on the revenue side is that is in our backlog today. Now it's about executing. So we think we expect the wind demand to come down for towers in Q4 based on the announcement that we had in early August. We'll offset that with some increases in our Industrial Solutions segment, industrial fab. And then gearing there, there'll be a little bit of an increase as well. But overall, it's going to be a down quarter from the top line, primarily because of the volume reduction. We'll probably be operating at close to 75% plant utilization in towers. And then additionally, there's about a $5 million reduction because our customer is supplying materials, and that's just the pass-through. And that will just be a change in the margin profile.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Justin Clare with ROTH Capital Partners.

Justin Clare

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

So I guess, first off, for Q3, just wondering, did supply chain and staffing constraints result in any delays in your ability to meet orders, like was there an impact to revenue? Or did you just see the impact on the cost side? And then looking forward, I guess, a similar question, do you expect any impact to order, your ability to meet orders or margins in Q4? How do you see that trending?

Jason Bonfigt

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

I'll start with the impact on Q3. So we met our commitments to our customers in Q3. Certainly, it was a challenge on the execution side to do that based on those disruptions that we talked about. And that, as we had in our prepared remarks, that was approximately $600,000 to $700,000 of erosion in our gross profit during the quarter. So it had a pretty -- it had immaterial impact on our business. As we look into Q4, we feel like we're -- the supply chain is starting to recover, and we feel like we're in a position to have all of our supply chain covered for Q4 shipments, but there still is some risk. So we're mindful and being cautious on that side.

Eric Blashford

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

Yes. Justin, and what -- how it really impacts us is what I would call, out-of-process work. And as the materials come in, we're able to complete them on time, but sometimes we've got to set a project aside and then go back to it to complete it on time. And that's what I mean by out-of-process work, it's extra handling. It's not really rework, but it's out-of-process work, Justin, and that can be expensive in a manufacturing operation.

Justin Clare

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

Okay. Got it. And then shifting to ASPs. You indicated that tower ASPs in Q3 moved higher. Is that something you expect to continue in Q4 and into 2021? Could you talk about a little bit more about why the ASPs are moving higher? Is it more complex towers? And then how does that impact the margin? Like are you able to capture a higher margin with that higher ASP? Or is -- or margins likely to still be kind of in the same level?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

Well, I'll start, Jeff, and then I'll ask Jason to add some color. The towers are getting bigger, which affects the individual average selling prices. And whereas a couple of years ago, the average tower was 3 sections. We're producing 3, 4, 5 and sometimes 6-section towers. So that drives the average selling price just naturally up. As far as the margin profile, those would be basically consistent. Jason, any color?

Jason Bonfigt

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

Yes. Q3, a small increase, about $8,000 per section first sequentially. We're looking at our order book for Q4. That comes down by about 20%, and a lot of that is because a chunk of these jobs or these orders are -- the materials are basically provided by our customers. As we look to next year, I think it's a little early to look at what the ASPs -- I think they'll be relatively consistent on a year-over-year basis. So we've had a lot of fluctuations this year based on different designs, different amount of materials provided by our customers for these different projects. I think as you model it, and as we're thinking about next year, it'll be fairly consistent.

Justin Clare

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

Okay. That's helpful. And then turning to your customers. In Q3, you produced for 3 of the top 4 OEMs in the U.S. What do you see going forward? Do you anticipate continuing relationships with each of those 3 customers? Could you add another customer? And then if you could speak to -- are you seeing a more consistent order flow from GE? Are you able to grow that relationship?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners.

Well, we're certainly talking with those 3 of the 4. And reminder, the fourth one, which we can produce for, they produce their own towers. So we'd love to produce for all 4. But that fourth one doesn't really need our capacity at this time. So we are in communications with those remaining 3. And I do expect to build, at least, for 2 of those 3, in 2021, possibly 3 of the 3, depending on where they might have their projects and which projects they win, Justin.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

So my most questions have been discussed. But just trying to touch on sort of the non-wind contribution expectations for the near term? Are we hitting a little bit of a ceiling in terms of how much the non-wind side can bring in, given sort of the macro environment right now?

Jason Bonfigt

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

We've seen -- since the pandemic, we had a really strong Q1 in the Gearing markets that we're in. It was a very healthy quarter. And the same -- and I would say the same for the Industrial Fabrications, which are in those other cyclical markets like mining, material handling, construction. Since Q1, it has -- the order book certainly has come down and the quoting activities, we think, have bottomed in Q3. We're starting to see some recovery but certainly, we are starting to feel the impacts on our revenue in Q3 from reduced orders in Q2. We're expecting some growth in Q4 in those markets that I just talked about. And I think we're encouraged as we look into 2021 that the quoting activities and our funnels and pipelines are starting to improve. That would indicate that the volumes should be higher next year in those non-wind markets.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Understood. And maybe just a sort of a high-level regulatory type question. And given where we are with sort of the election results today, can you share your view on the regulatory setup that could sort of drive or create challenges for the next 12 to 18 months?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Well, yes, that's a great question. We're all kind of wondering that same thing, right? But regarding our market -- because we're so diverse, which is our intention as some markets are stronger, some markets might become weaker and whatnot. But the gradual step on the PTC, we're anticipating that. We don't know if there will be a PTC extension. But even without a PTC extension, we're confident in wind. There's bipartisan support for wind in Congress. We're confident that it's a viable and competitive source of power generation for years to come. That's the wind piece. The other piece, there's been discussion of an extension of the FAST Act or perhaps in 2021. Also, the Infrastructure bill that Congress has been kicking around. I think once the election gets past us, I think both parties are talking about an Infrastructure bill, and I think that could certainly lift a lot of the markets that we serve, mining, construction, material handling, et cetera.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Martin Malloy with Johnson Rice.

Martin Malloy

Analyst · Johnson Rice.

On the recent antidumping, countervailing duty petition that was filed at the end of September, I think India, Malaysia, Spain, for wind towers. Can you maybe give us an update there? And what percent of the market are those 3 countries responsible for in the U.S. market?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Johnson Rice.

Yes. What's interesting is the first suit or the suit against Korea, Canada, Indonesia and Vietnam represented about 1,000 towers out of a general market of about maybe 4,000 towers. That case was one, and we found that, that shift or the imports shifted from those countries to these countries, Malaysia, India, and Spain. There has been a surge of imports from those countries up to an annualized pace of between 600 or 700 towers and climbing, or about, I think, it's 1,500% increase, which is why they became on our radar screen and we had to file this case. So where the case is, it's in preliminary investigations by the ITC. And we expect their preliminary findings in December.

Martin Malloy

Analyst · Johnson Rice.

Okay. And then the other question I had. In terms of opportunities for you on the onshore wind side, when older wind installations are replaced with turbines with higher capacity. Is there an opportunity for you on the replacement wind tower side? Are you seeing that out there?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Johnson Rice.

Yes. Excellent question. We refer to that as repowering. And there is a repowering initiative, and we are selling into that market. We've done repowering jobs for a couple OEMs right now, and we're quoting on a third. So that's definitely a market we're interested in. We're quoting to that market in 2 or 3 OEMs right now. As you look at the revenue attached to that, it's a much lower steel content, the adapters could be maybe 1/5 of the revenue. But certainly, the volumes are -- seem pretty healthy, at least, in the commercial environment right now. So we're optimistic that, that can provide some lift in that business. Yes. And by the virtue, we're just explaining it a little bit differently, Jason referred to it as an adapter. That adapter can either be at the top of the tower, at the bottom of the tower or actually a replacement section of one of those towers. And the whole point is to try to make sure that, that tower can receive a new and more efficient turbine or nacelle on the top with perhaps larger blades. So those adapters come in various forms, and we produce multiple different forms of those adapters.

Martin Malloy

Analyst · Johnson Rice.

So if a new wind tower is -- I'm just going to make up an ASP, say, $400,000 something like that. What would -- on a replacement wind tower, what would the scope be or average selling price for you all?

Eric Blashford

Analyst · Johnson Rice.

It would depend on the size of the adapter, but maybe 10%, 10% to 20%.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Blashford for any final comments.

Eric Blashford

Analyst

Well, thank you, everyone, for joining the call. We appreciate the interest in our business. Stay safe out there, and vigilant as we're all fighting through this crazy time. And just look forward to meeting with you in another 3 months. Thank you much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.