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Conagra Brands, Inc. (CAG)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 26, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to today’s ConAgra Foods Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. This program is being recorded. My name is Candice Griffin and I will be your conference facilitator. All audience lines are currently in a listen-only mode. However, our speakers will address your questions at the end of the presentation during the formal question-and-answer session. At this time, I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Gary Rodkin, Chief Executive Officer of ConAgra Foods. Please go ahead, Mr. Rodkin.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Good morning. Welcome to our third quarter earnings call. Thanks for joining us today. I’m Gary Rodkin here with John Gehring our CFO, Tom McGough, President of Consumer Foods; Paul Maass, President of Private Brands and Commercial Foods; and Chris Klinefelter, our VP of Investor Relations. We also have our CEO-elect, Sean Connolly with us today as well. Before we get started, Chris has a few words.

Chris Klinefelter

Management

Good morning. During today's remarks, we will make some forward-looking statements and while we’re making those statements in good faith and are confident about our Company's direction, we do not have any guarantee about the results that we will achieve. So if you would like to learn more about the risks and factors that could influence and impact our expected results, perhaps materially, I'll refer you to the documents we filed with the SEC, which includes cautionary language. Also, we'll be discussing some non-GAAP financial measures during the call today, and the reconciliations of those measures to the most directly comparable measures for Regulation G compliance can be found in either the earnings press release, the Q&A or on our website. Now I'll turn it back over to Gary.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Thanks Chris. As you can see from the release, comparable EPS came in higher than our most recent projections and we've raised our full year outlook. Additionally, we're on track for our debt reduction commitment. So there is fair amount to discuss in today's remarks. But before we get into the specifics of that, I want to introduce Sean Connolly, our incoming CEO. I couldn’t be more pleased with the selection of Sean. He is sharp, seasoned, enthusiastic, and he refuses to lose. His energy and focus will serve ConAgra Foods well and he is making a terrific first impression here at ConAgra Foods. I know many of you know him and I am confident you'll enjoy interacting with him in the months and years ahead. Sean?

Sean Connolly

Management

Thanks Gary and good morning, everyone. I am looking forward to transitioning into the CEO role here in a couple of weeks. I am very excited to be at ConAgra Foods and part of this team. This is a highly motivated organization with great brands, strong product lines and incredible people and I believe there is a lot we can do to create value together. Now I imagine many of you have big picture questions about our strategy and goals. We'll get to those over time, but not today. I'll need a lot of study to get where I need to be to provide insight on this. For now, I'll just say that I am committed to long term value creation as is our Board of Directors. My plan is to spend the coming months digging in and learning everything I can about our company. After that, we'll share our thinking with all of you at an investor event when the time is right. To be clear, that will be several months down the road. Until then, our organization will remain focused on delivering our near term commitments and our key business initiatives. I look forward to working with all of you as we take ConAgra Foods to the next level. As many of you know I value a good dialogue with analyst and investors and I believe in transparency and availability, so that you can have a very solid understanding of our plans. Thanks for your time this morning. I appreciate your interest in ConAgra Foods and I look forward to working with all of you. Now I’ll hand it back over to Gary.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Thanks, John. Now let’s focus on the company's third quarter results. I’m going to briefly touch on some overall remarks about the quarter and then ask Tom McGough and Paul Maass to offer some commentary about our segments. Given that this is my last earnings call and the fact that I’m retiring from my role officially in a couple of weeks, I think it makes sense for Tom and Paul, who are running the segments day-to-day to offer the more detailed remarks about segment performance. So you’ll hear from them in a minute. Our third quarter comparable EPS was $0.59, that’s ahead of our most recent expectations and below our comparable EPS of $0.62 a year ago. All of our segments ended up ahead of what we were planning, when we offered our last guidance and we also got some EPS help from lower taxes and higher joint venture earnings. We've refined our view of the year and have taken our outlook up accordingly and we're confident we'll meet our debt reduction commitment. We saw comparable profit growth for both Consumer Foods and Commercial Foods during the third quarter, despite some headwinds that impacted us. To state the obvious, our Private Brand segment continues to be below expectations and our revised outlook for that segment has driven a lot of impairment charge. Obviously we’re very disappointed with our Private Brands' results thus far and we're taking specific actions to improve it. At the same time, most of the company the two biggest segments are performing well and delivering on commitments. Our Consumer Food segment has grown profits each quarter this fiscal year and we're gradually making progress on the topline with share gains and volume holding steady. Commercial Foods led by Lamb Weston continues to make progress on both the top and bottom-line as it gains new business domestically to make up for some headwinds including the West Coast Port slowdown, which has impacted international sales over the near term. So the good news is that most of the company is on track and Paul and Tom will give you some specific examples. In addition to this, we remain highly focused on a more efficient organization at all levels. That's important fuel for ongoing business growth but along with the progress we’re making across the company, we continue to have a challenged private brands performance. While our learning curve has been steep and taken longer than plan, we’re in the midst of implementing very granular initiatives to significantly improve execution. These initiatives should help our customer service, customer relationships and in due time our ultimate performance. Our initiatives will also help us to manage cost more effectively. You’ll hear more about that from Paul in a minute. We expect better results from the Private Brands segment in fiscal '16. Now on to more specifics by segment, I’ll ask Tom and Paul to offer their thoughts so, Tom?

Tom McGough

Management

Thanks Gary and good morning everyone. This is Tom McGough, President of Consumer Foods. I'll begin by highlighting that we're delivering on our plans for this year, which focused on improving share, stabilizing volume and growing profit. We planned for a year of foundation building in Consumer Foods and I’m pleased with our progress despite operating in a challenging marketplace. For the third quarter, Consumer Foods posted a 2% net sales decline with flat volume, a 1% decline in price mix and a negative 1% impact from FX. Comparable operating profit increased 5%. Importantly, we extended our shared leadership in frozen single-serve meals during the quarter, a position we first took over earlier this fiscal year. That leadership position is driven by the ongoing sales and share growth from the re-calendar single-serve meals, a brand where we've had an effective strategy and the right fundamentals, which has enabled us to invest to grow. Also within frozen we successfully restaged the P.F. Chang's brand by investing in renovating the core meal segment and introducing new appetizers and side dishes in the fall. We're seeing very good results. In the center of the store, we’re also seeing growth in PAM and Reddi-wip, again behind the right strategies and strong fundamentals with consistent investment. On Reddi-wip, we achieved an important milestone during the quarter. Reddi-wip is now the number one whipped topping outselling all frozen and refrigerated competitors. Finally Slim Jim continues to be a strong and consistent performer. We're taking share and growing sales. We're also making progress on the three big brands we've been working to stabilize this year. Chef Boyardee continues to improve growing volume year-over-year behind packaging improvements and effective promotion strategies. Healthy Choice is growing dollar share in the nutritional meals segment behind our continued focus on building…

Paul Maass

Management

Thanks Tom. Good morning everyone. I’m Paul Maass and I'll first focus on our Private Brand segment. For profits were well below a year ago amounts as we noted in our February update. We’re in a highly competitive bidding environment, seen some category softness and dealing with high input costs, specifically in pasta. We've also experienced execution shortfalls. Those factors have negatively impacted recent results and near-term expectations for volumes, pricing and margins. We've reassessed the timing and slope of recovery in our private brand segment and concluded that significant improvement in our top and bottom performance will take longer than we previously expected. We're very focused on implementing significant changes to improve execution, strength in customer relationships and improve our performance. We've made positive changes already with more to come. Those changes will continue to be implemented over the next several quarters and we expect to improve results in fiscal '16. Even with those improvements coming down the road, clearly our view of future performance is well below previous projections and expectations, which has resulted in the impairment. John will say more about the impairment in his remarks. As I look at the underlying issues in the business there are a few things that count more than others. The level of competitor fragmentation and capacity in the marketplace means that every dollar won in this business is hard fought. We know that speed and agility are hallmarks of Private Brands and are key to winning. Focusing on the distinct needs of our six business units within Private Brands is a must. For example what it takes to win in pasta is simply different from crackers and the winning priorities in crackers are different from snack nuts and so on. We're strengthening our focus and specialized capabilities and we're leveraging…

Gary Rodkin

Management

Thanks John, and Paul. As you can see, there are bright spots within the company. And it’s important not to lose sight of the fact that our overall effectiveness and efficiency work is doing what it is supposed to. This is taking place throughout ConAgra Foods and is producing the SG&A savings and productivity we envisioned, which of course plays a big role in our company’s broader goals. Importantly, the execution related initiatives underway in Private Brands will help us stabilize and grow over time. Our most recent results have been weighted down by our Private Brands performance. But when I take a step back, I’m extremely pleased to see the progress our team has made over the last decade. The long-term view shows, we made good progress transforming ConAgra Foods' into a true operating company with an engaged culture. All of that also tells us that we’re in a position to profitably grow on a sustainable basis over the years ahead. Getting ConAgra Foods to this point has required significant energy and dedication from thousands of people inside the company. I want to thank my team, including all ConAgra Foods employees for all of the sweat equity, talent and perseverance they’ve devoted to ConAgra Foods. It means a lot to me personally and to all of our stakeholders and it's why the company is set up well for the future. I also want to thank you and the rest of the investment community for the interest you had in our company during my tenure here. I’ve appreciated our interactions and your feedback throughout the years and I wish you all the best. I've truly enjoyed the candid dialogue, the challenges and good exchange of ideas that I’m sure will continue with Sean. And with that, I’ll turn the call over to John for some additional detail.

John Gehring

Management

Thank you Gary and good morning everyone. I have several topics to cover this morning. I’ll start with some comments on our fiscal third quarter performance including the additional impairment charge in our Private Brand segment this quarter. Next I’ll cover comparability matters, then on to cash flow, capital and balance sheet items and finally I’ll provide some comments on our outlook for the balance of the fiscal year. Let’s start with our performance. Overall the fiscal third quarter comparable results were better than our revised expectations, reflecting a strong close to the quarter in our Consumer Foods and Commercial Food segments and lower tax rate. But also continuing challenges in our Private Brand segment. Before I cover some of the details, I would remind everyone that the results of the ConAgra meals business prior to the formation of the Ardent Mills joint venture in the first fiscal quarter are reflected as discontinued operations. And our share of earnings from our 44% interest in Ardent Mills is included in equity method investment earnings. For the fiscal third quarter, we reported net sales of $3.9 billion, about 2% below the year ago quarter. We reported a loss per share from continuing operations of $2.23 versus earnings of $0.52 per share in the year ago period. The sharp decline in reported EPS was driven by a non-cash impairment charge that I will say more about in a few minutes. Adjusting for items impacting comparability, fully diluted earnings per share were $0.59, about 5% below comparable year ago amounts, principally reflecting weaker performance in our Private Brands segment and higher corporate expenses, offset by stronger performance in our Consumer Foods and Commercial Foods segments. The fiscal third quarter comparable earnings include approximately $28 million of losses related to certain index hedges. Due to…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And it looks like we’ll take our first question from Andrew Lazar with Barclays Capital.

Andrew Lazar

Analyst

Good morning, everyone.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Good morning, Andrew.

John Gehring

Management

Good morning, Andrew.

Andrew Lazar

Analyst

Welcome Sean, great to hear from you again and Gary, really wishing you all the best moving forward.

Sean Connolly

Management

Thank you.

Andrew Lazar

Analyst

I guess there are two questions from me if I could. First Sean, this may not be a question you’re prepared to answer really just yet, but you’ll tell me if that’s the case, I guess if we had asked you and maybe prior roles that you had in food, Cannibal, Hillshire and such realizing this may ultimately be a very different outcome as it relates specifically to ConAgra. Trying to get a sense of what would your thoughts have been regarding sort of the marriage if you will of Private Label and Brands under the same roof, because there’s still obviously quite a bit of investor skepticism around the pairing and then I just got a follow-up?

Sean Connolly

Management

Well I appreciate the question Andrew and I appreciate that you all have many questions for me about how we’re going to create value going forward, clearly being just a few weeks in to ConAgra Foods here, I am in the early days of learning and I’ve got a lot more work to do. So I’m not in a position today to give you the kind of perspective that you’re seeking but I do look forward to engaging with you down the road and sharing that perspective because I’ll have it. For now, just know that I do see tremendous opportunity to create value here at ConAgra Foods and I’m really happy to be part of the team.

Andrew Lazar

Analyst

Got it, understood and then Paul, I realize ConAgra won’t give full year sort of '16 guidance really until next quarter. The Private Brands margin I think around 3.7% was maybe the lowest since ConAgra’s owned it. Are we able to say maybe at this stage though that this is sort of a bottom on margins for this unit or giving visibility is still sufficiently murky that we can’t quite say that yet as we think out to 2016 specifically in Private Brands. Thanks very much.

Paul Maass

Management

You bet, yeah I would say yeah we’re clearly disappointed with where we’re at and we do intend to deliver profit growth in '16 and that’s what we’re all focused on doing.

Andrew Lazar

Analyst

Thank you.

Paul Maass

Management

You bet.

Operator

Operator

We’ll move now to David Driscoll with Citigroup.

David Driscoll

Analyst

Thank you and good morning.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Good morning David.

John Gehring

Management

Good morning, David.

David Driscoll

Analyst

Gary, thanks for everything, I really appreciate it and good luck with your retirement and future activities and Sean, welcome back.

Sean Connolly

Management

Thanks David.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Thank you.

David Driscoll

Analyst

So guys way kind of a game changing event yesterday with Kraft and Heinz and Gary, Sean I don’t know what you want to comment or not but Gary, gosh you’ve been at this a long time. You started at ConAgra, was a decentralized structure, your first action was to turn ConAgra into I think the annual report said one turn, it into one entity. I feel like the ZBB actions and the elimination of so much internal cost structure as executed by Heinz, 3G and others is astounding. The numbers yesterday just blew everybody away in terms of the kind of value creation and the stock kind of proved it. Gary, how do you respond to kind of the cost cutting efforts that the company has taken so far and why aren’t there just dramatically larger efforts that ConAgra could employ just given the size of the entity and again from where you started when it was decentralized to then it kind of comes together in this one unit, it feels like we’re going the other way with ZBB right now, I hope that was somewhat clear?

Gary Rodkin

Management

Yeah David understood and you know from a lot of the discussions we’ve had in the past and from the results that we have generated pretty significant savings from our supply chain and SG&A functions year-after-year and the continuous improvement in efficiencies of our operations as well alive for us. So I think we’ve been at that for long time, put a lot of points on the Board and I expect that future will hold the same.

David Driscoll

Analyst

John, can you make any comments here even from your past experiences?

John Gehring

Management

Well in principle, I don’t comment on other companies in our industry. So I’m sure you understand I know we’ve a lot to add here. I just I think for those of you know me, you know I’m a big believer in a lean enterprise because that ultimately creates a strong bottom line and fuel for growth and I think that’s just a philosophical view, beyond that, I don't have a lot to add.

David Driscoll

Analyst

Okay, well look forward to your more detailed comments later on. Thanks everyone.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Thank you, David.

Operator

Operator

We’ll move now to Jonathan Feeney with Athlos Research.

Jonathan Feeney

Analyst

Good morning thanks very much.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Good morning.

Jonathan Feeney

Analyst

I know -- kind of a detail-ish question but we haven’t talked about synergies for a while with the Private Brands business, but in light you did mention that you changed some assumptions, which kind of triggered this write down this morning. And I’m wondering I think we’ve last heard about synergies in the $300 million range by 2017, I think that was about 18 months ago and correct me if I’m wrong about that. Do you -- did those assumptions change as part of the write down and can you give us a rough sense where in the segment reporting those synergies would tend to sit at this point. Thank you.

John Gehring

Management

Yeah Jonathan this is John Gehring. I will cover that. First of all I would say we have been delivering the synergies that we set out to deliver, obviously we’re not getting those to the bottom line and obvious what that implies is that just our base business execution has deteriorated. And that’s what’s really I think reflected in the impairment and how long it’s going to take us to turn that around. So I think we still are on track to drive out the cost and probably as we started out, we said about two-thirds or three quarters of that was going to be in the COGS area and supply chain and that’s still the case and awful lot of that is being realized in procurement areas. So I’d say we’ve made good progress on the SG&A. We continue to make good progress in supply chain, but we’ve got to get the base business stabilized so that more of those synergies drop to the bottom line.

Jonathan Feeney

Analyst

Thank you. John. I'll just follow-up though. I’m trying to understand what segment kind of the Private Brand, Consumer, Commercial how would those synergies split? Are they overwhelmingly or even across the three?

John Gehring

Management

I would say, the lion's share of them is still sitting in Private Brands, but -- and I don’t have the number in front of me. The consumer has benefited over the last couple of years from some of the scale, particularly in the procurement areas, but I would say probably two-thirds are still sitting in the Private Brands area. Q – Jonathan Feeney: Great thank you. And if I can just get one last question in for Gary before and Gary thanks for everything, I guess as you look back over the past 10 years and just philosophically, with gross margin being a trade-off between pushing for market share and price and water changes in commodities over that time. From the time that you joined 10 years, my guess is you had a vision of growing gross margin may be a little bit more so than has happened. Can you comment about why shouldn’t and forget about the Private Brand side of the business, just the branded side of the business carry higher gross margins at ConAgra and what were some of the surprises maybe on road to that, that maybe give us some learnings about the job that John faces.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Yes. I think that’s a good question Jonathan and we're always looking to improve our margin structure. We had a spell I can think off three or four years of very dramatic inflation that was tough for all of us to manage through, but I think the balance between driving for productivity on the supply chain side as well as SG&A has served us well. And I think to Sean's earlier comment, operating in a lean fashion is what's really required in an industry that frankly is not a high growth industry. It’s one which is a very large landscape and we have to battle for share. So I am pleased that we've been able to certainly recently start to make some forward progress on the share front, but it's always going to be a balance, but continuing down the productivity front is really important because that's what gives the fuel to grow.

Operator

Operator

We'll move now to Ken Goldman with JPMorgan.

Ken Goldman

Analyst

Gary best wishes from me as well and Sean welcome back. I have a question and a follow-up if I can. ConAgra is trying to turn around Private Brands for many quarters now I think by the company’s own words haven’t necessarily been successful yet. So how do we get confidence that this latest effort will finally I guess be the one that solves the riddle, right? I am sure we can see you are talking about some legitimate changes being made, but I am an outsider and I hear that one of the key differences will be faster graphic changes on packages, I’ll be honest that doesn’t really excite me that much. So any color there would be helpful.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Yes. Let me start by saying clearly we're not where we want to be with the Private Brand business. It's obviously been a disappointing for all of us here at ConAgra. This has been more difficult and taken longer than we anticipated and plan. However, I think we all firmly believe we can improve our performance by focusing on what we can control, which is our execution and we are firmly committed to making those necessary changes. So a little more colorful Paul.

Paul Maass

Management

Yes Kenneth bottom line, we do need to improve our own execution. You're kind of asking what do we really mean by that and simply put, I would say we are changing the way we're running the business, focusing on the four areas that I described in the formal comments. Narrow product focus with deep expertise in each business, improving commercialization speed, consistently meeting our customers service expectation and most importantly expanding our margins. These are basic things that are required to win in Private Brands. And I think it's really important we stay really close to our customers. They've giving us plenty of actionable feedback regarding kind of what we're doing right and what we're doing wrong. We've been really granular in our assessment and we have a clear understanding of the root causes of the challenges and we're committed at executing all these changes in the whole overall turnaround effort. So I appreciate what you're saying, but I just reiterate that we're committed to it and we have confidence we will grow profits in '16.

Ken Goldman

Analyst

I’ll just let it go there. I realize we're running a little long. I appreciate it guys.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Thanks Ken.

John Gehring

Management

Thanks Ken.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Eric Katzman with Deutsche Bank.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank.

Hi. Good morning everybody.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Good morning, Eric.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank.

Gary, it's been a pleasure. Sean welcome back. So I guess just a quick detailed question, with the impairment, should goodwill expense be significantly lower? I guess it's been running since the transaction is like call it $100 million to $110 million is that going to switch to being much lower now?

Sean Connolly

Management

No Eric actually the impairment of goodwill, goodwill is not an asset that we amortize. So really the impairment is going to have a very little impact if any on our amortization expense going forward.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank.

Okay. I'll follow-up and then I guess maybe Gary and Sean you could both address this kind of more of an industry question. Some of the other companies have recently talked about seeing somewhat better category trends sequentially and I’m just kind of as you kind of look at the last couple of months, are you seeing it and what do you attribute it to better macro or the industry starting to get the product lines better aligned with the changing consumer and I understand it’s modest but we’re certainly all hoping it happens.

Sean Connolly

Management

Eric, I would just start by telling you we see it clearly on the away from home side and you know that we’ve got a very large scale advantaged food service business anchored by Lamb Weston and we are clearly seeing that happen here in North America, on the consumer front Tom you’re seeing what?

Tom McGough

Management

Yes generally speaking as we look forward we see it to be an industry with nominal growth that's primarily defined as a market share battle and our focus is on the things that we can control fixing the fundamentals within our portfolio, investing in our businesses. While there are some macro things that we believe should provide some tailwinds lapping the snap reductions, certainly lower gasoline prices ultimately provide additional income. We’re not really counting on those to be a part, we're really focused on the things that we can control and we’ve made very good progress in building our share in very big and important categories.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will move now to Alexia Howard with Sanford Bernstein.

Alexia Howard

Analyst

Good morning, everyone.

Gary Rodkin

Management

Good morning, Alexia.

Sean Connolly

Management

Good morning, Alexia.

Alexia Howard

Analyst

So Gary it’s been great working with you and Sean definitely welcome back again. So just one question there was some discussion earlier about the improvement from the innovation that you’re seeing in Chef Boyardee, Orville Redenbacher, Healthy Choice, and I remember about a year ago, Gary was seeing we've been trying to recruit new consumers into those brands and it's just proving a bit challenging. How are you measuring the return on investment in those innovation and product developments in that, how can you be sure that the money that you're turning into the brands now is really going to drive value creation as the time. Thank you and I will pass it.

Tom McGough

Management

Alexia this is Tom McGough and I feel -- let me frame up the answer to your question around this. Fundamentally we believe in brand building and we build brands and we believe that that's best done when brands are what we call ANP ready. Clear consumer insights and effective strategy to win in the marketplace and solid fundamentals in the business and we're investing in those brands that are ANP ready. Brands like Marie Callender, Reddi-wip, Hunt, Slim Jim are just a few and we see the impact from those. As I’ve talked about formally, we've captured the number one share in our largest single category which is frozen single served meals and even on a brand like Reddi-wip, we now claim the category lead not only in refrigerated, but also in frozen. So we see a real impact, real return when we invest behind the brands that are ENP ready. Those businesses that you highlighted were businesses that we had to do some work to get them to be ready to make further investments. We focused on the fundamentals. We’ve stabilized and we've been growing some of those businesses and throughout this year we focused on the insights, the strategy, the fundamentals. As we move into our fourth quarter and into FY '16 we have more brands that are ANP ready. Our ANP in Q4 will be up and we expect to invest more in FY '16. So this has been a foundational year getting those right. We see impact when we have those factors all lined up and that's our general approach of how we make investments in our portfolio.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll move now to Akshay Jagdale with KeyBanc.

Akshay Jagdale

Analyst

Good morning and good luck Gary and welcome back Sean. So my question is for Sean and so one way to look at your fit with ConAgra or something that investors have talked about is you obviously have a very, very strong branded background. But on the Private Label side perhaps not as much. Can you just talk about from your perspective why this role is a good fit for you personally and perhaps maybe comment on the fact that you haven’t had as much experience in Private Brands and why that shouldn’t really matter in this case?

Sean Connolly

Management

Well Akshay I think you know I've been doing this for about 23, 24 years now and over that time I have managed all sorts of businesses from branded businesses to commercial businesses and private branding businesses. So I’m very comfortable here at ConAgra Foods with the businesses we’ve got. It's very familiar to me and that's why I am enjoying myself now going deep on each and every aspect of our operations. So I can get back to you all in the coming months with an assessment of what I see. What I can tell you with conviction is I am here at ConAgra Foods because I see a tremendous opportunity to create a lot of value over time. We have tremendously strong assets and we have got a highly motivated team. So overall, I am very excited to be here and I think we can put some points on the Board.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Credit Suisse’s Rob Moskow.

Robert Moskow

Analyst

Hi thank you and best wishes Gary and good luck Sean. So my question actually is for John Gehring, when I saw the release today and the comments that all three business units delivered results just a little bit better than you thought, when you did your preannouncement. I guess it’s good, but it was only two weeks left in the quarter, when you had your profit warning. And it's just strange to see all three units doing better than you thought with so little time left in the quarter and for Sean to execute the visibility into the operations is going to have to be good, the systems are going to have to be good. So maybe you can just give us a little more color on what changed in those two weeks that surprised you on the upside, thanks.

John Gehring

Management

Yes I appreciate the question Robert, Obviously day in, day out we're trying to forecast our business as best we can. And I don’t want to quibble with the timeframes. I would just note that we had not yet closed the third period of the quarter which is also the biggest period of the quarter. So the timing of the release versus the date of the information we have is a little bit off, but nonetheless, I think the things I would point to is first of all about $0.02 to $0.03 of the over-delivery was driven by the lower tax rate and that’s just really a function of in the third quarter at the end of the third quarter every year we reconcile our prior year provision to the actually final tax return. That's just something that happens late in the quarter. So we're unable to predict that until we get through the work. So that is probably $0.02 to $0.03 of it. I think the other piece is we're really in the consumer business again the last period of the quarter was the biggest and it finished stronger. And then I would say the other element is in the commercial business in Lamb Weston in particular. Their domestic volumes came in strong, but I would say they also had a little bit of upside in terms of what we're assuming around the port issue on how much throughput we would get which has obviously been a challenging thing to predict over time. So we clearly are working every day to get tighter on our ability to forecast the business, but we did have a few things come to us for the last month of the quarter that created a little bit of volatility.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from Bryan Spillane with Bank of America.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · Bank of America.

Hey good morning. Thanks for taking the question and best to both you Gary and Sean. Hey John, just a question for you, free cash flow or cash from operations guidance is down a little bit, but I guess if I did the math right, you got to generate about $800 million or so of cash from operations in the fourth quarter, which is a lot higher than the fourth quarter last year and I think looking back even most fourth quarters over the last 20 years. So can you just talk a little bit about some of the moving parts in 4Q that get us to that cash from operations? Are there any, I don't know, I guess sort of discrete or one-time items that help it and just try to get a shape for whether or not we can forecast a similar number for next year or whether, whether or not there are some one-time things that are helping this year, thanks?

John Gehring

Management

Yes, I will, we'll obviously get to next year at a different time. Clearly we -- our fourth quarter is always a very strong quarter of cash generation. I would, without having a lot of details in front of me, clearly our inventory levels are much higher going into fourth quarter and while we expect them to still be higher at the end of the fourth quarter, the amount of the inventory will liquidate over the fourth quarter is going to be higher this year. I also think if you look at probably our accounts payable and some of the accruals, I would expect that we will have more progress and contribution from those in the fourth quarter as well as I also believe our tax payments year-over-year are going to look different also. So there are a number of moving pieces there within the pieces outside of earnings, but again I would remind everybody that we've typically had very strong cash generation in the fourth quarter.

Operator

Operator

And this does conclude our question-and-answer session. Mr. Klinefelter, I’ll hand the conference back to you for final or closing remarks.

Chris Klinefelter

Management

Thank you. Well just as a reminder, this conference is being recorded and will be archived on the web as detailed in our news release and as always we're available for discussions. Thank you very much for your interest in ConAgra Foods.