So if you don't mind, so let me answer your question directly. We are not volume sensitive with any major sense on margin. Volume does not chart the margin. And decreasingly as we pursue our platform business because, obviously, the software content is so high, it's not driven to volume, okay. And to that end, if we are able to not only expand our platforms into fiber forward Greenfield companies that are getting funding, but also be able to take our, frankly, most leading-edge platform, Calix Marketing Cloud, and deploy it with Windstream to help them succeed, we can go anywhere with the platforms provided a customer wants to go drive business success. Having said that, when you look at the margin separation, the margins are -- you did incremental margin calculation. The margins in our go-forward business are well -- are higher than 50% and, obviously, they're going to continue to lift the business accordingly. I want to go back to a piece that you said though and answer a question you didn't ask, but you sort of have started going down the path. I will tell you going -- thinking about last fourth quarter and go 2 years ago and 3 years ago, if we were Calix, the broadband access is just some sort of box company without any of our platforms and we were confronted with the quarter that we were just confronted with, we would have been chasing revenue right off a cliff at the end of the quarter, doing ever diminishing pricing deals to try and make revenue and you'd end up with lower and lower margins on a fixed expense base, and you'd actually end up probably falling short of revenue and falling way short on earnings. That should sound familiar to you because it's a picture we've all seen many times in our career. We are in a very, very different place as a company. And what you and I spoke about and then we spoke with all the analysts about, the increasing predictability starts at actually at the bottom line. The business is less and less sensitive at the bottom line, even though we may have times where there's difficulties at the top line. So it's just a very, very different business today, Paul, and I know I'm not answering your direct question because I know you're not expecting me to. Let's just say, it's well higher than 50%.