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Cathay General Bancorp (CATY)

Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Fri, Jan 28, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Cathay General Bancorp's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Gigi and I'll be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay at www.cathay generalbancorp.com. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Georgia Lo, Investor Relations of Cathay General Bancorp.

Georgia Lo

Analyst

Thank you, Gigi and good afternoon. Here to discuss the financial results today are Mr. Chang Liu, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Heng Chen, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we wish to remind you that the speakers on this call may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the applicable provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 concerning future results and events and that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties are further described in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2020 at Item 1A in particular. And in other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission from time-to-time. As such, we caution you not to place undue reliance on such Forward-looking statements. Any Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which it is made and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or review any forward-looking statements to reflect future circumstances, developments or events or the occurrence of unanticipated events. This afternoon, Cathay General Bancorp issued an earnings release outlining its Fourth-quarter 2021 results. To obtain a copy of our earnings release, as well as our earnings presentation, please visit our website at www.cathay generalbancorp.com. After comments by management today, we will open up this call for questions. I will now turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Chang Liu.

Chang Liu

Analyst

Thank you, Georgia. And good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to our 2021 fourth quarter earnings conference call. This afternoon, we reported net income of $75.3 million for the fourth quarter of 2021, a 4% increase as compared to the net income of $72.4 million for the third quarter of 2021. Diluted earnings per share increased 10% to $0.98 per share for the fourth quarter of 2021 compared to $0.89 per share for the same quarter a year ago. For the year ending December 31, 2021, we reported a record net income of $298.3 million and EPS of $3.80 per share for 2021. In the fourth quarter of 2021, our gross loans excluding PPP loans, increased by $444.6 million to $16.3 billion, which represents an annualized growth rate of 11.4%. The increase in loans for the fourth quarter of 2021 was primarily driven by increases of $189.6 million or 29.2% annualized in commercial loans excluding PPP loans, $307.7 million or 16.3% annualized in commercial real estate loans and $37.2 million or 0.9% annualized in residential mortgage loans offset by a decrease of $77.2 million or minus 45.4% annualized in real estate construction loans. The overall loan growth for 2022 is expected to range between 9% to 11%, including approximately $700 million of loans from the acquisition of certain West Coast branches from HSPC, excluding the HSPC acquisition, we project loan growth to be between 5% and 7% in 2022. During the fourth quarter of 2021 $72.5 million of PPP loans were forgiven. As of December 31st, 2021 our deferred PPP loan fees were $643,000. We continue to monitor our commercial real estate loans. Turning to slide eight of our earnings presentation as of December 31, 2021, the average loan-to-value of our CRE loans was 51%. As of December 3 to 31, 2021,…

Heng Chen

Analyst

$700 million.

Chang Liu

Analyst

$700 million. Excluding the acquired deposits from HSBC, we project deposit growth to be between 5% to 7% in 2022. We repurchased 1,411,038 shares of our stock at an average cost of $43.97 totaling $66.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2021, there is $32.9 million remaining under our September 2021 $125 million stock buyback program. Our previous announced acquisition of certain West Coast branches from HSBC is scheduled to close on or around February 4, 2022. We are pleased with the progress of the integration and conversion. We would like to welcome the new customers and the HSBC team members in the 10 branches. This transaction will broaden the reach of our Northern and Southern California branch network, in addition to acquiring approximately $700 million in low cost deposits and approximately $700 million in residential mortgages. We look forward to the contribution of the new branches for our bank's future growth. I will now turn the floor over to our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Heng Chen, to discuss the fourth quarter of 2021 financial results in more detail. Thank you, Chang. And good afternoon, everyone. For the fourth quarter of 2021, net income increased by $2.9 million or 4% to $75.3 million compared to the third quarter of 2021. This increase was primarily attributable to increase in net interest income to the strong loan growth in the fourth quarter. Our net interest margin was 3.23% in the fourth quarter of 2021 as compared to 3.22% for the third quarter of 2021. In the fourth quarter of 2021, interest recoveries and prepayment penalties added 6 basis points to the net interest margin as compared to 12 basis points for the third quarter of 2021. There were $3.1 billion of loans at the floor rate as of December…

Chang Liu

Analyst

Thank you, Heng, we will now proceed to the question-and-answer portion of the call.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. You may then return to the queue. [Operator Instructions] To prevent any background noise, we ask that you please place yourself on mute once your question has been stated. Your first question comes from the line of Brandon KIng from Truist Security. Your line is now open.

Brandon King

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon.

Heng Chen

Analyst

Hi.

Chang Liu

Analyst

Hi, Brandon.

Brandon King

Analyst

So I first wanted to talk about loan growth, it was pretty strong in the quarter, but I wanted to get a sense of your expectations for 2022 and what that would -- what and could look like on a core basis.

Chang Liu

Analyst

For 2022, we're projecting a total loan growth at 9% to 11%, but that includes the HSBC acquisition so excluding that number is in the 5% to 10% range.

Heng Chen

Analyst

5% to 7%.

Chang Liu

Analyst

5% to 7% range.

Brandon King

Analyst

Okay. And also I saw that Syria is pretty strong in the quarter. Could you just talk about what drove that and what are your expectations for the CRE book as well within that 5% to 7% core guidance in '22.

Chang Liu

Analyst

Sure. At CRE, most of the businesses were multi-family driven. And that comes from the acquisition and renovation as well as some of the stabilized properties increases. I think we have some a few teams that did significantly well in their relationships and expanding those relationships. So we continue to see positive growth out of that. For 2022 CRE use number is around 5% to 6%.

Brandon King

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, just for CNI, I know there's been a lot of focus on that. What are you expecting as far as utilization rates there and also in 4Q that should come from new customers or existing customers expanding their utilization?

Chang Liu

Analyst

The CNI increase is really a result of some of the new relationships we've acquired through some of the new relationship managers and teams that we've acquired during 2020 and 2021. The utilization rate for 2021, the numbers that we have is around 55%. We expect that number to stay relatively stable at that number. And we're seeing continued increase in commitment as well. So we're positive -- we're optimistic that the 2022 numbers on CNI will increase as well.

Heng Chen

Analyst

Yeah. Our budget has that growing and around 11% to 12% for CNI.

Brandon King

Analyst

Okay. Very helpful. Thank you for the answers.

Heng Chen

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Chris McGratty from KBW. Your line is now open.

Chris Mcgratty

Analyst

Hey, great. I just want to revisit the loan growth comments from -- still trying to understand. So this quarter you had about 11% annualized and the organic guidance excluding the deals, is quote, five to seven. Is this -- it seems conservative to me. Is this just an intentional remixing or are you seeing certain asset costs that might not -- you may not want to grow as fast?

Chang Liu

Analyst

Well, the 11% is the quarter-over-quarter comparison. But if you look at the year-over-year, that number is actually about 4.5%. So I think your organic guidance of 5% to 7% is still a increase over the actual 2021 year-over-year comparison. Okay. That's helpful.

Heng Chen

Analyst

We're also being conservative, Chris. We'll update that guidance each quarter as we go into 2022.

Chris Mcgratty

Analyst

Understood. Okay. Great. And then the expenses, could you help us with the trajectory in expense. We're hearing a lot from banks about inflation and I just want to make sure I got the expenses. And also if you had the low-income amortization expectations too.

Chang Liu

Analyst

Yeah, we're -- first we're going to break it out in two parts. One for core Cathay excluding HSPC acquisition, we expect -- and one-time conversion expenses. We expect expenses to be about 3.5% next year. The HSPC, it's around $10 million core. That's about 4.2% increase from our 2021 and then we see Low-income housing about flat to 2021. We had some catch-up adjustment in 2021, so that's flat. And then solo will be up about $3 million. And then I think he can talk about why we think we can hold it 3.5%.

Heng Chen

Analyst

For us, the focus is important to keep the expenses down. Our team members are the most critical assets of the bank. Obviously, given where the labor market is today, we need to make sure that we're retaining and attracting the right talents. So outside of that, we're looking at other core areas of expense control where we can be able to save some cost. On the core systems, we were able to save some cost on the contract negotiation extension there. In addition to other -- just looking at overall locations and other physical cost expense wise, we're looking to offset that any potential increases on that side of the income statement.

Chris Mcgratty

Analyst

And just a clarification, that $10 million on HSBC, that's an annual number assuming an early Feb close?

Heng Chen

Analyst

That's right, yeah.

Chris Mcgratty

Analyst

And then the gain -- the venture gain, that's an -- is that an addition or is that included within the security game line? It looks like it's in another income.

Heng Chen

Analyst

That's in other income, right.

Chris Mcgratty

Analyst

Okay. Alright. Thanks, Heng.

Heng Chen

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Clark from Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Matthew Clark

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon

Heng Chen

Analyst

Hi, Matthew.

Chang Liu

Analyst

Thank you.

Matthew Clark

Analyst

Just want to start on the deposit growth. Pretty significant this quarter. Any concentrations or any part of that growth that might be unsustainable? Just trying to get a sense for where it came from.

Heng Chen

Analyst

Yeah. First we like to measure it based on average quarterly balance growth. And that was still pretty good, especially in money market and [Indiscernible]. We had a couple of deposit customers. That may deposit late in the year. It's 200 million in D.B.A and 400 million in now and those deposits have left the bank as of today.

Chang Liu

Analyst

And Matthew, going forward, we're really focusing on growing our low cost deposits. We want to shift our liability mix so that we have -- we continue to push to drive down the cost upon.

Matthew Clark

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then the uptick in special mention this quarter, it looks like you added some reserves to CNI as well. I know part of that's loan growth, but can you just give us a sense for what drove the increase in special mention and your expectations there?

Heng Chen

Analyst

Yeah. That's -- I got a list from our Chief Credit Officer. There -- we're -- that's more of a monitoring category for us. So there's a couple of construction -- there's some COVID type impacts for properties, the lease rates are a little bit weaker, there is -- a couple of CNI loans were due to supply chain disruption, maybe their profits went down, so we put them into special mention. It's nothing that would be concerning to us. Okay. Yes. And then on sub we have two credits. We feel pretty good about those loans that are kind of one-offish [Indiscernible] don't see them going [Indiscernible]. Okay.

Mathew Clark

Analyst

And then just given the delay in I think the solar Amortization, starting in the second quarter in the tax rate of 19 to 20. How should we think about the tax rate, at least in the first quarter relative to the second before everything is smoothed out?

Heng Chen

Analyst

That should be the full-year effective tax rate. We expect to close that deal -- we're shooting to close that deal before the end of March. So it will be in our full-year effective tax rate.

Matthew Clark

Analyst

Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation. I will now turn the call back over to Cathay General Bancorp's management for closing remarks.

Chang Liu

Analyst

I want to thank everyone for joining us on our call and we look forward to speaking with you at our next quarterly earnings release call.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference, and this concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.