Joseph Sutaris
Analyst · B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.
Yes. So, Steve, this is Joe. I will address that. So -- our expectation, and I made it -- I said it in my prepared comments, is that we expected the first quarter NII outcome, net interest income outcome to kind of be the bottom for us. That's still our expectations even in a higher for longer scenario. We do expect the NII to step up in the remaining quarters of 2024 and hopefully outpace the full year result from 2023. Obviously, there's a lot of variables that could change between now and the end of the year. But just some things to think about is that in the trailing 12-month period, we had about $1.3 billion of principal payments and prepayments on the loan portfolio and originated about $2.2 billion for a net growth of about $900 million over a trailing 12-month period. So, there's a turnover component, if you will, on the earning asset side, as these 5, 20 or so loans that are on the books now, the current book yield, as they're rolling off, they're being replaced by 7.5% new paper. So, I think that provides us a significant potential lift on the earning asset side. On the liability side, I said it in the prepared comments, but we do expect kind of some of the pressures on funding to abate. With that said, if rates continue to move up on the long end, those pressures will probably still be present. But right now, our expectations are that the cost of deposits are not going to grow in the quarters going forward at the same rate they had been in the trailing quarters. So that sort of set an NII expansion. The net interest margin, we booked $298 million on a tax equivalent basis in the quarter. The expectation is the margin may creep up a couple of basis points to flat, but the expectation is that we'll be able to expand net interest income on a go-forward basis. Obviously, deposit balances will make a difference and kind of how -- what the outcome is there and their ability to support continued loan growth because if we move from a little over 1% deposit base to a 5% borrowing, that could be expensive. So, that's one the caveats as we have to kind of look and manage the deposit balances. There's obviously migration -- continued migration into higher cost deposits that will impact the overall cost. And obviously, the swap of the yield curve matters as well. So, there are some, I'll call it, some components that could affect the outcome, but our expectation is that NII will expand moving forward.