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Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 24, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Calgon Carbon Corporation's Fourth Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time all participants have been placed on a listen only mode, and the call will be opened for your questions following the presentation. [Operator Instructions] It is now pleasure to turn the floor over to Dan Crookshank, Director of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Dan Crookshank

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Thank you, Maria. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us for today's conference call and webcast. Our speakers for the prepared remarks portion of today's call are Calgon Carbon's Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Randy Dearth; and Calgon Carbon's Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Bob Fortwangler. Also on the call and available to take your questions are Executive Vice President and leader of our Core Carbon and Services business, Jim Coccagno; and Executive Vice President and leader of our Advanced Materials, Manufacturing and Equipment business, Steve Schott. Management's prepared remarks today are accompanied by presentation slides. Those of you accessing the call via the webcast will find the presentation displayed in the webcast window. A standalone copy of the presentation is also available for download from our Web site at www.calgoncarbon.com via the link to today's Web cast that can be found on the investor home page. I'll now draw your attention to Slide 2. Statements made during today's call that are not historical facts are considered to be forward-looking statements and are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of federal securities laws. A list of factors that could affect actual results can be found in the news release we issued earlier this morning and are discussed more fully in the reports we file with the SEC, particularly those listed in our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K. These filings, as well as this morning's news release can also be found in the Investor Relations section of our Web site. Now, let me turn the call over to Randy.

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Baird

Thanks, Dan and thank you everyone for joining us for our fourth quarter and fiscal 2016 year-end earnings conference call this morning. I'm going to start my remarks with an overview of our fourth quarter results on Slide 3, about a third of the way through the fourth quarter on November 2nd, we closed on the acquisition of CECA's wood activated carbon and filtration media businesses. For the purpose of external reporting in our discussion today, we are calling them the new business. Sales rebounded from the third quarter to 137.5 million, a sequential increase of 11%. Legacy sales grew 1% driven primarily by potable water sales from perfluorinated compounds or PFC projects and were slightly under our expectations for 2% to 5% sequential growth reflection a strong than anticipated dollar, particularly against the euro and the pound sterling. A continued weakness in the ballast water systems. The negative impact from foreign currency translation for the quarter was $1.4 million compared to the range of $500,000 to $1 million we had expected. The new business contributed $12.1 million to our fourth quarter sales. As with the case when a company completes a sizable acquisition, our fourth quarter results include various accounting costs and charges, creating a fair amount of noise in the numbers and causing us to report a loss of $0.12 per share. On the pre-tax basis, we incurred acquisition and project related expenses totaling $13.7 million which was higher than the $5 million to $6 million estimate we gave you on the third quarter call. We completed our post-closing activities in November and December and we arrived at our final determination that certain French [ph] asset and business transfer tax payment we were expecting to make that totaled of $6.5 million would have to be expensed immediately. Closing…

Bob Fortwangler

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Thank you, Randy. And good morning, everyone. I’ll begin with the income statement on Slide 6, the waterfall chart at the top of the slide displays the bridge from last year to this year's fourth quarter gross margin before depreciation and amortization. You will notice that we are showing variances for our legacy business separate from the new business and the related transaction and purchase accounting impacts. Starting from the left side of the chart, our legacy business was impacted by unfavorable customer and product mix as well as the loss of the higher margin mercury removable contract both of which impacted third quarter gross margin and were expected. However, solid operational performance at our Big Sandy and Pearl River virgin activated carbon production facilities, lead to our achieving gross margin before depreciation and amortization for the legacy business of 33.2%, slightly above the upper end of our guidance range of 31% to 33%. With respect to the new business, purchase accounting adjustments to inventory led to $1.5 million charge in the quarter of 1.1 percentage point of margin. We expect a final charge of approximately 700,000 in the first quarter as we complete one inventory turn and fully recognize the inventory step up adjustments. In addition, the new business results contributed a negative 1.1 percentage point of which 0.7 percentage points was due to scheduled planning maintained outages at two facilities. The remaining 0.4 percentage points reflect the new businesses lower gross margin profile relative to Calgon Carbon legacy business. The waterfall chart on the bottom of the slide displays the bridge from last year's operating income of 10.7 million to this year's operating loss of 5.4 million. The gross margin dollar impact in the chart above was $1.4 million. The legacy business operating expenses were essentially flat. However…

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Baird

Thanks, Bob. So during 2017, our key priority will be integrating the new business and extracting expected synergies. We expect the new business will contribute approximately $100 million in sales. In our legacy business, we expect to deliver revenue increases from potable water market projects in the U.S. and Europe and from mercury removal contracts run during 2016 while benefiting from elevated natural gas prices. We also expect to see an increase in ballast water treatment equipment sales late in the year. The ultimate timing and pace of which will be dependent upon the IMO remaining on track with the enforcement of its regulation on September 8, 2017 and in its current form. As we have mentioned on the call today, we are starting to see early indications of increasing demand from our industrial sector customers which gives us cautious optimism that they are moving into recovery period. As the recovery builds during 2017, our goal is to maintain if not expand our margins and we currently have our sights set on generating EBITDA of more than $100 million in spite of the approximately $5 million of cost that we expect to incur during the first three quarters of 2017 related to the subsidiary reorganization project, acquisition integration and the inventory related purchase accounting adjustments as Bob just detailed for you. Helping us achieve these goals will be the capture of expected synergies and benefits from projects in the new business and our doable commitment to controlling cost and on improving operational and manufacturing processes in our legacy business including cost improvements from previously announced programs. These initiatives place us in a strong position to realize greater operating leverage when volumes from our industrial sector customers improve. In closing, a rebound in industrial sector demand along with our continued success in winning municipal drinking water business and mercury removal contracts plays to our strengths and competitive advantages in high end segments of the market rounded in our premium brand, our customer stickiness and our technical expertise. All of which points to better results in 2017. So with that we'll turn it over to your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instruction] Our first question comes from the line of David Cater of Baird.

Tyler Frank

Analyst · Baird

Hi guys, it's Tyler Frank from Baird, thanks for taking the question. Could you give us little bit more color on where you stand in terms of Coast Guard Type Approval, or linking your balance to other systems and what needs to occur as you look over next six to 12 months? And then going beyond that, can you talk a little bit about market demand here in the U.S. Do you think that demand based on your expectations for potential regulatory changes or other factors will fill the capacity here in the U.S. given yourselves and the other conventional players in this year?

Steve Schott

Analyst · Baird

This is Steve, with respect to our U.S. Coast Guard Type Approval endeavor we expect to conduct the first stage of that testing in March, it'll followed -- and that's our land based testing and then it'll be followed by other tests necessary. We expect to wrap all of that up before the end of the year and submit our filing to the Coast Guard during the fourth quarter. As it relates to demand, what I'll say is that we've seen since the low point in Q3 of last year a dramatic increase in the number of bids that we're been asked to submit. To frame that it's probably four times the activity that we had only six months ago, so we're quite encouraged by the bid activity, we feel like so long as the compliance schedules remain as set forth currently and including the Coast Guard's recent compliance action taken in a vessel here at the U.S. Coast in the state of Washington that these things all point favorably to a year with good results for us to the extent these things stay as they are.

Tyler Frank

Analyst · Baird

Great and then what are your expectations for the overall market demand here in the U.S. for activated carbon? And do you think the mercury market will expand more given the current administration or what are your thoughts going forward on run rate [ph]?

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Baird

Yes, we'll need to talk a little bit about 2017 again in terms of demand and where we see it going I mean and again 2016, we're not happy with it, it was a bad year. But as we noted in our remarks and I'll just review hose again, that we're cautiously optimistic that the industrial sector indeed will start coming back in 2017, we can benefit from that. Absence of those high-end products, we tend in our plans to replace those with lower margin products which we did last year and hence that put some pressure on the margins, but again we can -- we're looking forward to that market coming back simply because it's big for us, it's 30% of our share, and also these are markets we know well and the customers prefer us as the partners in that area. But when you add to that the opportunities we see in PFC removal we're very excited about that, mercury removal as you heard us talk about and the contracts we won last year, but even the ballast water, as we just talk come September 8th, we believe that that's going to have a significant improvement on our sales going forward, which is yet difficult to quantify, but bid activity would indicate that that will be the case, so all of that will help fill up the capacity that we have and do it with the highest margin possible.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

[Technical difficulty] sale on that for a minute, maybe peel back the onion a layer. What is driving that, is that just general hiccups in U.S. philosophical [ph] stand on -- from an economic standpoint, any sort of view on that?

Dan Crookshank

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Hey Gerry can you repeat the beginning of the question, I don’t know if you're on your cellphone it's coming in a little bit garbled.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

I apologize.

Dan Crookshank

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

That’s okay.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Could you -- I wasn't [technical difficulty] question in the Q&A.

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Sure, okay.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

But I just wanted to see what was -- what is [technical difficulty], is it general pickup in U.S. [indiscernible] demand, are the client's seeing that. Just wondering if you could provide a little bit more details.

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Yes, most of the customers in this sector for us are chemical company and refineries. And they use our products in three ways, they use it as part of their processing, so when they make their products, they use it as part of their waste water treatment, and in some cases they use our products when they have remediation projects that they have to complete. And so when you look at 2016 and look at the chemical industry, you can see a direct correlation with down turn in demand for chemical products and when you look now going into 2017 you see that there is some optimism on that. That front that 2017 will be a better year for them, and hence for us as well. We do sense their pessimism, cautious pessimism -- well cautious optimism I should say, like ours and we will see again how that turns out over few quarters. But again, data for us would indicate that things could be looking up.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Okay that’s helpful. And speaking on the I guess potable water sales, I know, if my [indiscernible] is correct, probably demand, there was some extension, still there was I guess some [technical difficulty], are you generally seem to have [indiscernible], is that picking up or is that stabilized, how does that play into be higher price?

Jim Coccagno

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Hi, it's Jim Coccagno. I’ll take a short of that question. So our potable water sales, we're actually pleased with those. They've grown year-over-year and we expect that to continue into 2017. It's really across all the drivers but the one area that we are really happy about it is PFC demand. So in our potable water sales as we look at it there is the carbon and service side and the equipment. I would say that one thing that has occurred is the ratio between carbon and service and equipment has shifted a little bit more on the equipment, as a lot of the PFC jobs require a [technical difficulty] equipment investment upfront. And we will continue to see that, we'll expect that to continue in 2017, but we are actually excited about the potable water sector and when that could bring, what it has brought in '16 and what it will bring in '17.

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Tyler asked earlier about some of Trump's policies and I failed to answer that, but I would like comment, because I think it adds to what Jim just said and Trump has been very clear that looking at the infrastructure across the country and trying to bring that back to some normal standard is one this priorities and I was just in Washington DC a few weeks ago and water infrastructure is one of those areas that congress is really interested in hearing more about and what our thoughts are and of course we think this could be a strong area for activated carbon as we try to clean both large municipalities, but also small rural communities that need clean drinking water.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Sure, and you know the PFC business is -- I mean it's started picking up earlier of this year. I mean could you remind us maybe how big of an opportunity of market it potentially could be?

Bob Fortwangler

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Yes, we haven't given that number. The markets evolving. So I can tell you the market is kind of split into a drinking water market which is really the opportunities that we're seeing today. It's the most urging side of that the opportunity and then for the more longer term there are remediation opportunities, that was with a large consulting engineer company two weeks ago and asked the question about size and length, and from the length they see this market being around for a long time, 10 plus years. There is a lot of contamination specifically at DOD sites, so drinking water first but this opportunity is going to be around for activated carbon and Calgon Carbon for a long time on the remediation side. It's a good opportunity, we continue to win the lion's share of the business, our products are proving out to be the best in the business and we expect to continue to win our share of that going forward, there is a lot of activity.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Jim Coll of Lombard Securities.

Jim Coll

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

I was just curious across all division how many sales persons do you have and are they salaried or commissioned or both?

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

Yes, let me explain that first in the U.S. and then I'm go globally. In the U.S., we're pretty much structured by business units, so we have sales reps who focus on the municipal business, we have sales reps who focus on the industrial business, and we have sales reps that focus on ballast water and our specialty carbons business. So they're trained in these areas and go after that, they are salaried employees, but they do have bonus programs that we offer them incentives based on various metrics that we deem is in the best interest of shareholders. So, in United States from a number perspective, because we do have some hybrids as well who do both marketing and sales, but I would say 30 to 40 in the U.S. roughly and that's complemented by distribution. Around the world we treat our organizations more like distributors, in the sense that they multi-sell across all the various businesses and in Europe we probably have --.

Bob Fortwangler

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

Over 20.

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

Over 20, and we just added some additional sales reps with the new business to the tune of probably about 10, and in Asia I would say we have a lot of agent and distribution network, we have our own sales reps, that total probably about 20?

Bob Fortwangler

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

Yes.

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

And again all of which are salaried employees.

Jim Coll

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

Could you just comment on the share repurchase, is that suspended and if so is that dependent on share price?

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

We'll firstly I'll say that returning capital to shareholders is a topic that the Board of Directors in each and every Board meeting discusses and how that's used. And again we mentioned to you that we spent 18.1 on dividends [Multiple Speakers] 10 on dividends and 8 on shares repurchases. Bob, you want to comment too?

Bob Fortwangler

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

Yes for now the share repurchase is suspended. Our focus at this point is to continue looking at the continuing our dividend to give back value to our shareholders and looking at our capital allocation in more detail to try and balance our capital spending versus debt versus share repurchases, so even though it's suspend at this time, it's still open to further actions, but at this point due to the acquisition it is suspended for the near future.

Jim Coll

Analyst · Jim Coll of Lombard Securities

Okay thank you, that’s very helpful. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from line of Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott.

Michael Gaugler

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

Few questions on your main segment. On the legacy carbon service business, margin degradation in the last few quarters, just wondering if you could give us some guidance on what we should be looking for in 2017?

Randy Dearth

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

Michael, we talked a little bit about some of the challenges in the margins and we will go from there a bit. Obviously global competitive market, it was very evident in 2016 and even as we go into 2017. So that’s still there, enforces us to act accordingly. Product mix in terms of the fact that I mentioned earlier that with the softening of the higher markets require high end products, we supplement that with lower margin products and that indeed was the case in 2017 which had -- or 2016 which had an impact on our margins. The industrial sector is big for us. So again with 30% of our sales and with the down turn you saw that again was a high margin area that just wasn’t as big in 2016 as we like and we hope to come back. And the other factor to bring into it, with the PFC market and particular with ballast water, the more of the equivalent we sell, we traditionally said that those come with a lower margin and we did have a lot of equipment that accompanied our PFC carbon sales last year. So that played a factoring in it as well [technical difficulty].

Michael Gaugler

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

[Technical difficulty].

Steve Schott

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

Mike, this is Steve. You broke up, but I think I understand your question to be what droves the fourth quarter losses in the equipment business and in that regard I would mention a couple of factors. One, obviously our sales levels remain low owing to the ballast water slowdown and we expect that to improve. That said, in the fourth quarter we also and for the full year we had some warranty charges in several of our businesses in the equipment segment. Those totaled for the year just over $1 million and a good bit in the other half was in the fourth quarter. So that was one of the driving factors for the loss for the year. We don’t think that those are events that we will repeat, we have remedied those situations. And I’ll take the opportunity to mention that our backlog as we entered the year was pretty low. But we have won almost $20 million of equipment project bids. We haven't entered into the contracts yet for those wins, when we do, they'll be reflected in backlog. So we expect this business to defiantly improve in 2017 owing in part two the number of recent bid wins that we've had.

Michael Gaugler

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

Okay. I apologize, not sure if the problem is on your side or mine on the line.

Steve Schott

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

It's better now Michael.

Michael Gaugler

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

The reason I ask was, I look back over the last couple of years and you've pretty much run at a breakeven to a slight loss in the equivalent segment and I was just wondering if you will be gearing up ahead of the September and anticipated better sales in the back of the year and maybe that would drive higher expenses?

Steve Schott

Analyst · Michael Gaugler of Janney Montgomery Scott

We geared up for the September expectation many years ago. We maintained our workforce in the large part to remain prepared to the opportunity, because as you know when the opportunity comes it will be here for a limited period of years and we wanted to prepared at the [technical difficulty] to capture as much of the market as we could. So, the business has been burdened, the loses that we've suffered over the past several years, however modest were as a result in part of our having a workforce ready for this opportunity and that continues.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is a follow-up from Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · ROTH Capital

I assume you're just mentioning on the PFC side, a lot of it was related to equipment. I assume the more equipment you get out there, the continued follow-on sales of activated carbon will continue, so it's a -- equipment leads to sales and then activated carbon continues to follow it, is that a fair assumption?

Jim Coccagno

Analyst · ROTH Capital

So, Gerry that's absolutely right. And with PFC's in particular, so we get our equipment out there like our carbon in it and one other thing that is driving our success in PFCs is the future reactivation potential. People want the containment gone, they want it remediated and there is not a lot of technologies out there for activated carbon that you can destroy the containment through reactivation. So we would expect in the long terms that this initial PFC opportunity will lead to longer term reactivation sales.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · ROTH Capital

I don't know if you want to get into it, but I imagine that 20 million, I'm not sure exactly how much is all equipment or how much is activated carbon, but this for the sake of argument, if it was $20 million worth of equipment what sort of the follow through on activated carbon product sales on an annual basis or?

Randy Dearth

Analyst · ROTH Capital

Well Gerry, that 20 million I referenced across a number of different volumes in our equipment business, some of which won't have anything to do with activated carbon. But we had said previously and I think this holds, as we look at equipment sales for the PFC market they probably comprise 75% of the total initial value with carbon being the other 25%. But as Jim mentioned, the reactivation that occurs is an ongoing opportunity that's carbon only.

Jim Coccagno

Analyst · ROTH Capital

And the change outs you can say of the carbon has really yet to beat determined and will depend on the amounts of containment in the waste streams, so it's really hard to tell at this point on.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · ROTH Capital

Okay I figured it would be that, would still be variable, but also -- And the just on ballast water, how is that market competition sort of seating up? And then you had also mentioned if the timeline today is in place, I know there is some mumblings of extension moving things around et cetera. and that really won't come into play I believe, there was going to be a meeting held in July, but what's the opportunity like, what are you hearing on the extension front, anything that you can provide a little bit more granularity would be great.

Randy Dearth

Analyst · ROTH Capital

Gerry, I'll first address competition. I actually think it's probably not heating up, it's cooling down. I think a number of companies and I think we talked about 60 competitors been Type Approved, perhaps there is a third or less of them that will be viable long term, that's what our Intel is telling us, it's been a long wait, it's been a financial burden for many competitors who don't have the financial backing to be able to stand in the market and so on that front it's a positive and on the IMO implementation front, there will be meetings this year where I would expect there will be a discussion about a deferral. For now there is no provision for it. So we will do watching it closer and certainly hope that the regulation stays in place. We were really encouraged by the Coast Guards enforcement action in late January, I think that's a good sign and we know also that the Coast Guard is less receptive to granting the extensions without good reason. So I think we see some positive market forces there currently as well.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · ROTH Capital

Okay great. I’ll appreciate it, thank you.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I am showing no further questions. I would like to turn the floor back over to management for any additional or closing remarks.

Dan Crookshank

Analyst · Gerry Sweeney of ROTH Capital

Thank you, Maria. Thank you everybody for joining us on the call today. I just want to let know that our Form 10-K will be filed sometime next week. And the management here will be available for follow up questions, if you would like to call in. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies, and gentlemen, this does conclude Calgon Carbon Corporation fourth quarter 2016 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.