Jay A. Brown
Analyst · David Barden from Bank of America
Dave, on your second question around capital allocation, as we've talked about, there are merits of increasing the dividend at a rate faster than what we've talked about of increasing it by about 15% or at least 15% per annum as we go through the process of utilizing the full extent of our taxable -- our tax net operating losses. At a pace of about 15% growth in our net operating losses, growth in dividend and against the net operating losses that would, as I mentioned in my comments earlier, exhaust the net operating losses by 2020. And I think we'll just have to see what opportunities are in front of us at the dates ahead. And to the extent that we find opportunities, either to invest in the stock or buy other assets, we may stay on that pace of 15%. To the extent that we don't see opportunities that meet our risk-adjusted returns, then we might look to increase the dividend at a pace higher than that 15%. But I think it's impossible, as we sit here today, to make the judgment about what that will look like in the future. I think if we struck the -- thought about the various balances of beginning a dividend, we thought it was an appropriate amount of a dividend, about roughly $1.40 per share in the first year out of the gate of starting the dividend, making up about 1/3 of the cash flow, it gave us plenty of cash to continue to make opportunistic investments. We were smart, I think, about the way we thought about the capital structure and overall leverage, though as Ben mentioned earlier in his comments, we're able to continue to be competitive and look for assets that we think fit in the portfolio nicely and drive long-term returns. And at the same time, start a process of returning cash to shareholders in the form of dividends, which we believe gives us an opportunity to expand the investor base and start to build on a base of investors that ultimately will be a larger portion of our investor base in all likelihood. Long term, if we think about the cash flow in the business, it's likely that we'll be distributing, once the NOLs are completely exhausted, we'll likely be distributing 75% to 80% of the cash flow in the business. And obviously, that's an exciting day for us once that comes about. But in the short term, we certainly have a lot of cash and a lot of flexibility. And to the extent that there are investments there that meet the risk-adjusted returns, we're happy to make those. And if we don't see them, then we'll come back and look to return a greater percentage of the cash flow to shareholders in the form of dividend.