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Century Communities, Inc. (CCS)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 27, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Century Communities Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call., All lines will be on listen-only mode throughout the presentation. We will have a question-and-answer session at the end of the presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Tyler Langton, Senior Vice President. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Tyler Langton

Management

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us today for Century Communities earnings conference call for the second quarter 2022. Before the call begins, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this call are not based on historical information and may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described or implied in the forward-looking statements. Certain of these risks and uncertainties can be found under the heading Risk Factors in the company's 2021 Annual Report on Form 10-K as supplemented by our other SEC filings. Our SEC filings are available at www.sec.gov and on our website at www.centurycommunities.com. The company undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statements that are made during this call. Additionally, certain non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. The company's presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. Management will be available after the call, should you have any questions that did not get answered. Hosting the call today are Dale Francescon, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer; Rob Francescon, Co-Chief Executive Officer and President; and David Messenger, Chief Financial Officer. Following today's prepared remarks, we will open the line up for questions. With that, I will turn the call over to Dale.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thank you, Tyler and good afternoon, everyone. We're very pleased with our record setting performance this quarter, including $214 million in pre-tax income, the highest in our history. Net income of $159 million, a second quarter record, and diluted earnings per share of $4.78, equaling the company record we established in the fourth quarter of 2021. The achieved levels of pre-tax income, net income and earnings per share represented increases of 40%, 35% and 38%, respectively from the prior year quarter. Our focus on operational fundamentals enabled us to produce another quarter of strong gross margins of 28.2% and adjusted gross margins of 29.4%, which were only 10 basis points below the highest in our history. Second quarter EBITDA increased 33% year-over-year to a second quarter record of $230 million. During the quarter we delivered 2,713 homes for $1.1 billion in revenues at an average sales price of $418,000 with deliveries generally flat year-over-year, while our average sales price was up 15%. Total revenues were $1.2 billion, a second record. Backlog at quarter-end consisted of 4,767 sold homes valued at $2 billion, year-over-year increases of 7% and 12%, respectively. Net new contracts declined to 2,233 homes as the sharp increase in mortgage rates and overall uncertainty caused some homebuyers to pause their plans to acquire home as the quarter progressed. We have seen this understandable and predictable pattern many times before, with the most recent being in the latter part of 2018. Given the strong underlying demographics that still exist, we expect buyers will return to the market as they adjust to these changes and continue to make decisions around their careers, marriage, and children that so often lead to the purchase of a new home. The summer season for home buying is typically the slowest period of the year,…

Robert Francescon

Management

Thank you, Dale and good afternoon, everyone. As Dale mentioned, our team performed well this quarter, and we believe the flexibility of Century's operating model and focused on delivering affordably priced homes positively positions the company moving forward. We also benefit from the strategic operational initiatives that have been implemented over the last several years. And our business model is well suited to address the headwinds from the current interest rate environment. Our homebuyers continue to have a healthy financial profile. Century Communities and Century Completes homebuyers had respective average FICO scores of 740 and 715 based on loans originated in the second quarter. Additionally, 75% of our deliveries in the quarter were priced below FHA limits, demonstrating our strong positioning within the affordable new home category and allowing us to target the widest range of potential buyers in any given market. We did see the expected increase in our cancellation rates to 19% in the second quarter, which is still below the 26% cancellation rates we experienced in 2018 and 2019. The cancellations we experienced were primarily financing related. We continue to qualify buyers at a rate that is 50 basis points above the current interest rate. On an ongoing basis, we evaluate and stress test all buyers in our backlog without a rate lock at interest rates up to 6%. And we are encouraged that only a small percentage of buyers needed to be canceled since they would no longer qualify at these higher rates. At the end of the quarter, we had only 44 completed and unsold homes over our 45-plus markets. We will continue to carefully monitor changes in market conditions going forward and will generally match our starts with our sales so that we are in a position to sell and deliver homes to buyers…

David Messenger

Management

Thank you, Rob. During the second quarter of 2022, net income increased 35% to a second quarter record $158.7 million or $4.78 per diluted share compared to $117.9 million or $3.47 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. Pre-tax income was $213.6 million, a year-over-year increase of 40% and a company record. Home sales revenues for the second quarter grew to $1.1 billion, a 13% increase compared to year ago levels. This improvement in revenues was driven by a 15% year-over-year increase in our average sales price to $418,000 and the delivery of 2,713 homes in the quarter. In the second quarter, net new contracts across our regions were 2,233. As Dale previously mentioned, this decline was primarily due to the impact that the sharp increase in interest rates had on potential homebuyers, particularly in the latter part of the quarter. Versus the prior year, we increased our quarter-end backlog 7% to 4,767 homes valued at $2 billion, a 12% increase. In the second quarter, adjusted home building gross margin percent was 29.4% compared to 25.7% in the prior year quarter. Home building gross margin percentage improved to 28.2% compared to 23.9% for the same period last year. Both gross margin and adjusted gross margin were only off 10 basis points from the company records that were established in the first quarter of this year. SG&A as a percent of home sales revenue improved to 9.6% in the second quarter compared to 9.9% in the prior year and 10.3% in the first quarter of the year. Pre-tax income margin was 18.3% compared to 14.6% in the prior year quarter. During the second quarter financial services generated $22.8 million in revenues compared to $29.9 million in the prior year quarter. The business captured 70% of the closings and contributed $8.6…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our first question is from Deepa Raghavan with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Deepa Raghavan

Analyst

Hi. Good evening, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. The order fall was pretty steep. Could you talk through how the quarter played out, especially absorption phase for June? And any color on what it is for July thus far? You mentioned sales would be -- we should think about sales in Q3 to be similar to Q2. Just the clarification, is that orders or was that closings?

Dale Francescon

Management

Sure. Deepa, this is Dale. I answer your last question. We were talking about sales. When we look at the sales in Q2 of this year and as compared to last year, part of it, it was a very difficult comp. We had a very high sales in Q2 of 2021. But going back to the specific quarter, as the quarter went on, we saw more and more pressure in terms of the -- on the sales side. We saw buyers pausing their home search as they needed to do -- to digest the impact of the higher interest rates. In many cases, it's not that they can't afford the home with the higher interest rates, but it's something that they need to adjust to the new norm. And we believe that the entry level buyer has a larger need to buy a home than a move up buyer who may just want a larger home. And so, we think that they will come back to the market sooner. But in terms of July, we've seen pretty much the same thing we saw in the tail end of June. And that is that one, it's summer and two, the buyers are still in that stage where they need to adjust to what the new interest rates are.

Deepa Raghavan

Analyst

Okay. Would -- I'll just switch and ask on gross margins. It's been pretty strong. I mean, pricing has been much stronger and most of us expected. That's good news. But can you talk through other items that could have benefited gross margins or detracted gross margins in the quarter, for example, was lumber a benefit and also how much of was incentive a headwind, et cetera. Can you help us parse out the components of gross margins that actually helped or detracted within the quarter?

David Messenger

Management

Yeah. Hey, Deepa, this is Dave. Gross margin during the quarter was obviously benefited from some strong ASP that we had as those homes were sold at an earlier period of time. When we're looking at direct costs for the second quarter, lumber was a benefit, but we had -- majority of the rest of the costs and that go into a home were increasing. And so, we still experienced a net increase in the second quarter on a sequential basis compared to the first quarter. So that was kind of a headwind. And then on the incentive side, we've been running about 80 basis points in the first two quarters and year-to-date of 2022. Historically that number in the upper 300s -- in the 380 basis point range. And as Dale said in the prepared remarks, we would expect that at some point here, those incentives get back that, so that'll be a headwind for us moving forward.

Deepa Raghavan

Analyst

Okay. One more for me, if I can squeeze in. Are you able to provide your thoughts on how pricing may play out from here? You cater to the entry level first time home, both are -- you're probably better situated to talk about the weakness in that segment, but we don't see it right now in near pricing trends. But what are some of the -- what would some of your thoughts be on how this might play from here? Should we expect a slow moderation in pricing or would -- should pricing end up falling much a little quicker and sharper from here? Any thoughts there.

Dale Francescon

Management

Well, generally as I said, my prepared remarks, we're not dropping base prices in communities. And as we open new communities, we're obviously carefully looking at what the base prices should be based on the competition and the market. Most of our incentives as opposed to price reductions are based around helping with regard to either closing costs or rate buy downs, that type of thing. So, when we look at it, while we certainly don't have the ability across the board to raise the prices the way we and our peers have been doing it over the recent past, we're not seeing that we would expect that they're going to be a significant drop either.

Deepa Raghavan

Analyst

Got it. Okay. I'll pass it on. Good luck.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thank you.

Robert Francescon

Management

Thanks Deepa.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Mike Rehaut JP Morgan. Please proceed.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, this is Andrew Rossi . I'm on for Mike Rehaut. Congrats on the quarter. I just wanted to ask, is there -- can you provide any color on the timing of that historical? I know you mentioned that historically it's around 300 bps for incentives. Is there kind of a timeline for the ramp to get there?

David Messenger

Management

Yeah. What I was referencing was through -- was our experience back in 2018, when it was a similar time period where you had rates that spiked up and that's where the incentives ended up. But we don't have any guidance out there in terms of when we're going to get from 80 basis points today to some other elevated level. We're just -- we're in the market right now. We are seeing incentives back in our communities and we're just piecing it out. We're not racing to the bottom. We're trying to utilize various incentives and various levers in order to find the right mixture at each community in each buyer that gets people across the goal line.

Dale Francescon

Management

And part of it is we're seeing that there's a real interest in the nearer term deliveries. And as a result where we -- we have incentives, there'll be more incentives on those homes where already there's more interest in them. As a result, we shouldn't have to provide as many incentives.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. That was super helpful. I'm going to pass it on.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Alan Ratner with Zelman & Associates. Please proceed.

Alan Ratner

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions here. First one, maybe just sticking on the incentive topic. Dave, I think you mentioned it's an 80 basis points year-to-date. I'm just curious if you have any quantification specifically on what that is more recently in June and July. And I'm assuming those have been maybe disproportionately weighted towards Century Complete, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like that segment might have faced some outsized pressure on the orders and maybe cancellations this quarter? So, just curious if you provide a little bit more color about what you're seeing specifically at Century Complete.

David Messenger

Management

Yeah. The 80 basis points, there is a bit of a weighting more towards a Century Complete product than the Communities product. And obviously, as the quarter progressed, incentives would've been ticking up if we were trying to get somebody that was in backlog trying to get them across the goal line.

Alan Ratner

Analyst

Okay. Great. Second, I guess on the lot option abandonments, first, I just want to make sure these are apples-to-apples. And it looks like your lot count dropped by about 10,000 lots sequentially. And I think you mentioned the write-off was just only over $2 million, which seems like a pretty small deposit for that number of lots. So, first off, is that correct? And second off, I'm assuming if, so that those were lots that were probably pretty early on in the due diligence process. So, how are you thinking more specifically about lot options that are closer to takedown, which I would imagine have larger deposits associated with them larger pre-act costs associated with them? Are you renegotiating? Are you trying to push out those takedown schedules? And are you contemplating walking away from some of those deals as well?

Dale Francescon

Management

Well, first off, Alan, the mix was a variety of stages on the land summit inception, where we had just put under contract and others that were farther down the line. So, it was really a mix on that. But yes, to answer your last part of the question, we are looking at on the control basis, doing extensions on the land, if needed, looking at them from all angles to make sure that they meet our investment criteria going forward. And we take -- for $2 million, yeah, that is a modest amount for the amount of lots that we did drop, but we've looked at the pool of controlled lots, that's our business model to try to have more controlled than owned. And that gives us that type of optionality to try to control lots at a very small dollar amount. And that's something we strive for -- on all of our contracts to control them with less deposit dollars.

Alan Ratner

Analyst

Great. Thanks for that added color. If I could add a quick one in here before I hop off. Your spec count, I think you gave finished specs. Do you have the total spec count, including homes under construction, and any color on kind of where in the construction process, the majority of those homes are?

David Messenger

Management

Yeah. We haven't disclosed the total number of homes we have under construction across the country, other than the fact that -- obviously, we only have the 44 that were completed at the end of the quarter. So, we really haven't seen any material growth in our completed spec count. And then, as we look at -- having opened up new communities in the first and second quarter and started a number of homes in those communities, we just don't have that many homes finishing here in the third quarter that are going to be made available for sale that are really going to cater to what the buyers are looking for today in terms of near-term completions.

Alan Ratner

Analyst

Got it. Thanks for that color Dave. Appreciate it guys.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thanks.

David Messenger

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Alex Rygiel with B. Riley. Please proceed.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

Yeah. Thank you very much, and a very nice quarter, gentleman. Congratulations. Have you made any decisions yet that would impact your community openings in 2023?

Dale Francescon

Management

So, we're looking at that very carefully. And that's kind of a day-by-day basis, but we're relooking at every new community opening, looking at making sure we have the right offering in that community. And a litany of additional items to make sure that when we start that community, it's going to be successful. So, to answer your question without going into all the specifics of the things we're looking at, but yes, we are looking at all new community openings.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

And then I know in the past you've changed around, I think it was the deposit requirements that you require. Have you changed those deposit requirements at all? And how does that kind of influence the cancellation rate, if any -- if at all?

Dale Francescon

Management

Well, we have increased our deposits, really across the board. And when we look at it from the point that we are highly focused on being a spec builder, we're not carrying our backlog nearly as long as if we were on a presale basis. So, as a result, I mean, our focus is making sure that we have a committed homebuyer, that we have an appropriate deposit. And most importantly, that they're qualified and committed to buy the home.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thanks Alex.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jay McCanless with Wedbush. Please proceed.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one I had, it looks like based on the guidance that the average closing price at the midpoint is in, call it, the low 400s now I think versus the high 380s before. Is that just losing some of the complete homes to cancellations? Or is there some -- has there been a geographic shift that we need to be thinking about in terms of ASP for the rest of the year?

David Messenger

Management

No, I think, I think if you look at the fact that the first -- through the first half of the year, our closing price is about 420. And given that, we've already closed essentially a little less than half of our annual guidance at the midpoint. The math works that based on where we're seeing, what we expect our mixture of complete versus our mixture of communities coming out at an ASP of 400,000 versus where we were at in the first half of the year at 420, the math kind of all makes sense.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

Okay. And then, when you -- when you're looking at recanceling these land deals, I guess, what is -- what are you having to take assumption on right now? Is it where your base pricing is going to be? Is it the paces that you're seeing? Just wondering, how -- if one is, is more of a concern right now, or you're being more careful on one over the other?

Dale Francescon

Management

I mean, we're really looking at all avenues, Jay, at this point. And it starts with what are we selling? I mean, we're homebuilders. We want to make sure we have the right offering for what the consumer wants for that geographic location. So, I mean, it starts with that, but I mean, there's so many things that go into it that we look at as we continue to stress test the lots. But generally speaking, we've been -- we got rid of the almost 10,000 lots in the control bucket that we dropped the deals that we just didn't think met our stringent criteria. And we feel comfortable going forward at this point on where we are, but we're looking at it all the time.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

Got it. And then, I know that compete -- sorry, complete -- tends to compete against the local existing home inventory rather than new homebuilders in the markets. I guess, are you seeing in those smaller markets? Are you seeing an inflow or an increase existing homes or condominiums for sale? I'm just wondering because we've seen it in the local markets that inventories have been up sequentially for the last couple months, and wondering if that's base also in these smaller markets.

Dale Francescon

Management

Yeah. I think, generally the smaller markets operate very similarly. We are seeing that inventory is up, but they're off such low levels and the amount that they're up is really not concerning them. They're still very low. And so, when we look at it on the complete side, oftentimes we may be -- the only public homebuilder in that market, there's typically other new homebuilders, but there are local builders without the resources that, that we bring to bear. And -- but we haven't seen inventory levels be challenging on the complete side or the community side.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

And then, I guess, the other one, and if you don't have, we certainly follow-up. But just frame a reference if 380 basis points was the peak in incentives in 2018, maybe once settled back to normal in the 2019 timeframe. Where did incentives move back then versus where they are now?

David Messenger

Management

I'll follow-up with you Jay afterwards on what a normalized level was, but it was somewhere below that.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

Okay. Okay. Yeah. That's all I have. Thanks again.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thanks Jay.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Alex Barron with Housing Research Center. Please proceed.

Alex Barron

Analyst

Yeah. Strong quarter, gentlemen. I wanted to ask regarding starts, how many homes did you guys start this quarter? How did that compare versus last year? And what's your general thought or approach now that things are a little softer?

David Messenger

Management

Hey, Alex. This is Dave. We've historically not disclosed the number of homes under construction or the starts we have. But as we said in the prepared remarks, right now, we're essentially matching our start pace with our sales in all of our existing communities.

Alex Barron

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Also wanted to ask, we've heard that builders are starting to get more inbound calls from fund and trades. I'm wondering if you guys are seeing an opportunity to get better pricing, if that's the case.

David Messenger

Management

Yeah. I think everybody understands right now as the industry is pivoting from where it's been the last 18 months that as more incentives are out there and profits are being challenged, it's going to work its way all the way through the supply chain into direct costs into labor. And we are seeing opportunities for additional trades and additional suppliers to be working with us and partnering with us in our various markets.

Alex Barron

Analyst

Okay. And if I could ask one last one, is it your sense that, right now, the slowdown is more just as some have characterized it, more like a shock, that people just kind of need to get used to it, or is it more leaning towards affordability challenges?

Dale Francescon

Management

Our view on this is that it's -- interest rates went up very quickly. People still have to be able to wrap their minds around that buying a home at that payment makes sense for them. From our standpoint, we're really not seeing that. It's a huge affordability challenge, where we do have some issues we provided rate buy downs, and other incentives on the mortgage side. And frankly, we think that we're well-positioned being at the -- typically at the lower end of the market, that if someone is priced out of a -- of what was a more expensive home, well, then -- when they start looking at ours, it becomes much more affordable. So, we think there's some elasticity there. And that's why we really like how we're positioned with regard to our price points.

Alex Barron

Analyst

Okay. Great. Best of luck for the year. Thank you.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thank you, Alex.

Operator

Operator

And we do have a follow-up from Jay with Wedbush. Please proceed.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

Hey, thanks for taking my follow-up. Just two questions. I guess, the first one, what sounds like pretty good news on labor and input cost and cycle time coming down, how should we expect gross margins to trend in the back half year versus half and maybe year-over-year?

David Messenger

Management

Well, I think, gross margins are going to be trending down, based on where we see incentives coming back into the marketplace. And when -- so I think that's going to put some pressure on margins. The benefits that we may start realizing from trades or other suppliers and other products, if I start contracting for that now, in July, August, September, that's going to be a 2023 tailwind for me. I don't know that I really realize that much benefit here in 2022 from those activities.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

Okay. I guess, just -- could you quantify how much the cycle time improved? And are you seeing those same improvements through quarter-to-date and the third quarter?

David Messenger

Management

Yeah. So, in the second quarter we saw -- we took about two to three weeks off our cycle times. So, we see that as a positive trend through July. We've been experiencing the same thing. We're almost through the month and cycle times have been pretty consistent with that.

Jay McCanless

Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thanks Jay.

Operator

Operator

We will now turn the line back over to Dale for some brief closing remarks.

Dale Francescon

Management

Thank you, operator. I'd like to take this opportunity once again thank all of our team members for their incredible work and continue dedication to our value suppliers. I'd also like to thank our investors for their time today. We appreciate your continued support and investment, and look forward to speaking to you again next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.