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Q2 2011 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 28, 2011

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Corporate Office Properties Trust Second Quarter 2011 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the call over to Stephanie Krewson, the company’s Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Krewson, please go ahead.

Stephanie Krewson

Management

Thank you, Krystalline. Good morning and welcome to second quarter 2011 earnings conference call. With me today, are Rand Griffin, COP’s CEO; Roger Waesche, our President and COO; Steve Riffee, our Executive VP and CFO; and Wayne Lingafelter, Executive Vice President of Development and Construction. As management review their financial results, they will refer to our quarterly supplemental information package and associated press release. Both of which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.copt.com. Within the supplemental package, you will find a reconciliation of GAAP measures to non-GAAP financial measures referenced throughout this call. Also under the Investor Relations section of our website, you will find a reconciliation of our 2011 annual and quarterly guidance. At the conclusion of this discussion, the call will be opened up for your questions. Before turning the call over to management, let me remind you all that certain statements made during this call regarding anticipated operating results and future events are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although such statements and projections are based upon what we believe to be reasonable assumptions, actual results may differ from those projected. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially, include, without limitation, the ability to renew or release space under favorable terms, regulatory changes, changes in the economy, the success and timely completion of acquisitions and development projects, and changes in interest rates and other risks associated with the commercial real estate business, as detailed in our filings with the SEC. I would now like to turn the call over to Rand for his formal remarks.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Thank you, Stephanie, and good morning, everyone. I’m going to cover a few highlights from the second quarter and update you on the status of the defense spending and how leasing and cost has been affected. Although, the tepid economic recovery in the U.S. continues to present significant leasing challenges for the office sector, COP performed well in the second quarter. Our FFO per share of $0.57 after adjustments was a $0.01 above the high end of our guidance range. Second quarter results were driven primarily by higher NOI margins, partially offset by a lack of acquisitions and nominal lease fee termination fees. Pertaining to acquisitions, a flood of capital from private and all cash buyers continues to drive down cap rates on acquisitions. Especially, for well leased high quality assets in growth markets, such as the greater DC, Baltimore region. While we competed for several buildings we were outbid by aggressive buyers. Still we believe our disciplined underwriting and focus on strategic super core assets will serve the company and its shareholders well in the long run. During the second quarter, we leased just over 1 million square feet despite the lingering effects of the delayed passage of the 2011 federal budget. Roger will discuss COPT’s leasing achievements in the market for property transactions in greater detail. Although the 2011 federal budget was passed on April 15, it is taking time for appropriated moves and monies to translate into signed leases. We anticipated this delay, but we briefly explain the process for those of you listening who may not be as familiar with it. Once the 2011 budget was passed in April, the appropriated funds then needed to be allocated by the Office of Management and Budget or OMB. The OMB gives agencies including the Department of Defense, budget…

Roger Waesche

President

Thanks, Rand. I'm going to go over our leasing results for the quarter and provide an update on our progress we’ve made on the strategic reallocation plan we announced on the last earnings call. At quarter end, our wholly-owned portfolio of 249 buildings encompassed 20 million square feet that were 87.3% occupied and 89.4% leased. Our occupancy increased 30 basis points from first quarter 2011. The percentage leased, which is a leading indicator increased 20 basis points in the quarter. Despite the uncertain economic environment in which many tenants are operating, we leased 1.35 million square feet during the second quarter that combined with the 1.2 million square feet of leases in the first quarter keeps us on pace to reach our 2011 leasing goal of 4 million square feet. Recall, we began the second quarter with only 300,000 square feet of leases scheduled to expire. Of the space leased in the second quarter, 768,000 square feet were renewals, 202,000 square feet of which related to 2011 expirations. And 566,000 square feet related primarily to 2012 lease expirations. We returned at a 143,000 square feet, executed 64,000 square feet in development or redevelopment projects, and we also signed 61,000 square feet of vacant, first generation space. Even though the protracted continuing resolutions surrounding the 2011 federal budget negotiations caused development leasing to fall short of our initial expectations for 2011, we expect demand to pick up in the coming months as money for fiscal 2011 is freed up and as Rand mentioned, must be committed prior to September 30th. Although, we don't yet have signed leases, we are in active discussions with prospects for about 600,000 square feet of our development pipeline. For the quarter, we had a renewal rate of 89% at an average capital cost of $11.49 per…

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Thanks, Roger, and good morning everyone. For the second quarter of 2011, we reported FFO available to common shareholders of $41.5 million or $0.57 per diluted share, a $0.01 above the high-end of our guidance range. This result excludes a $40 million or $0.55 per diluted share non-cash impairment charge, net of tax related to our strategic relocation plan that we announced last quarter. Including the non-cash impairment, our FFO per diluted share was $0.02. For the second quarter of 2011, net loss attributable to common shareholders was $28.3 million and diluted loss per share was $0.42 compared to net earnings attributable to common shareholders of $4.4 million and $0.07 per diluted share for the second quarter of 2010. Our diluted FFO payout ratio as adjusted was 76% and our diluted AFFO payout ratio, excluding capital expenditures invested at properties that are part of the disposition plan was 111%. We view our common dividend on a long-term basis and we believe it is sustainable. As release of vacancy and assuming capital expenditures revert to more normalized levels, our dividend coverage should return to the company’s historical levels. As of June 30, our same office portfolio consisted of 190 properties representing 81% of the consolidated portfolio square footage and excluded all of the properties we intend to dispose of as part of the strategic reallocation plan. Same office cash NOIs excluding termination fees, increased by $5.5 million or 10% from the first quarter and was down $350,000 or 60 basis points compared to the second quarter of 2010. Same office occupancy averaged 89.1% in the second quarter of 2011 versus 89.6% in the second quarter of 2010. Turning to the balance sheet, at June 30, the company had $2.3 billion of debt outstanding at a weighted average cost up 4.9%, 81%…

Wayne Lingafelter

Management

Thanks, Steve. My comments will focus on information presenting on pages 25 and 26 of the supplement. As Roger discussed, second quarter pre-leasing in the construction portfolio was modest. NBP 430, our first office building in the northern section of the National Business Park had just over 60,000 square feet in lease commitments in the quarter. The construction pipeline overall saw a no net change in the total occupancy level from last quarter. Looking at starts and completions, which are on page 25 of the supplement, during the second quarter, we did not start construction on any new office buildings. We did play 209 Research Boulevard into service at Northgate Business Park in Aberdeen. The building is now accounted for in our operating portfolio and is 100% lease to several key contractor customers. Next, when reviewing our free development projects on page 26, there are two changes since last quarter. First 801 Lakeview Drive in our Arborcrest Park is 100% leased and therefore was placed into the operating portfolio in the second quarter and removed from the redevelopment schedule. We've also removed the 7468 Candlewood Road project, our redevelopment program converted this asset to warehouse flex condominium and has been marketed for sale as part of our strategic reallocation plan. We've made several changes to our under development pipeline that represent projects on which we expect to start construction with in the next 12 months. Properties under development are detailed on page 26. Second quarter changes were made in response to anticipated customer demand for our office space. The net result was a modest increase in the size of the development pipeline from 991,000 square feet at the end of the first quarter to just over 1 million square feet at the end of the second quarter. Here are the…

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Thanks, Wayne, and thank you all for joining us today. In summary, we are seeing a gradual improvement in the business as demonstrated by the continued leasing activity in same office occupancy gains. We are strengthening the balance sheet and progressing well on development and construction activities. On a personal note regarding the status of my potential retirement, we expect to discuss this timing at the upcoming September Board meeting. As appropriate an announcement will be made subsequent to that meeting. Roger, Steve, Wayne, Stephanie and I are available to answer any questions you might have. And Crystalline, if you could open up the call now for questions.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from the line of Craig Mailman with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Hi, good morning, George in the phone with me as well. Roger, may be you can just talk about the leasing pace? I know you had mentioned that you guys are still good about getting to the 4 million square foot target for the year, but as I'm looking at the lease expiration for the balance of the year and kind of putting the 65% to 70% retention rate on that that costs 650,000 to 700,000 square feet, you’ve talked a little bit about 600,000 square feet of actual requirements on the development pipeline. Can you may be just give us a little bit color how much of a pickup you guys are expecting in new leasing to kind of offset the big retention that you guys had in the 2Q?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

I think overall we currently have about 700,000 square feet of leases that are out under negotiation, a lot of that is towards the million square feet that we have renewing, maturing for the balance of the year. And then we’ve got the 600,000 square feet of other negotiations going on with one of the development portfolio. And so, as Steve said, our thinking is that with the 65% renewal rate for the rest of the year and the other retananting leasing we're doing that we’ll be able to bring our same store up and plus eat into our unleashed, underconstruction pipeline by some pretty good amount before year-and. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Are you getting a sense of just talking to tenants that there is a pretty big shadow demand on once these contract get signed? Do you have any kind of pipeline there that you could discuss?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

I don't think we can be specific, but I’d say that at four locations really the only location that we don't have activity on development leasing is up in Maryland, but the other locations we’ve got a pretty good activity that we think will be realized over the next so many months. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Great. And just wondering in your recent conversations with tenants, sort of inability the of Washington to get census on deficit reduction, when you just spending overall. Are people starting to get worried that we might have the same situation in ’12 with the budget resolution being delayed that we have in ’11 and kind of how are they positioning for that and how are you guys positioning for that from the development start standpoint?.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

This is Randall Griffin, Jordan. No, I think clearly given how difficult it is for both parties to get agreement on something that’s been in discussions for eight months on the debt ceiling increase, we now think that the 2012 budget will certainly go into a continuing resolution and be a delay just like it occurred end of last year and this year. So how contractors are really approaching that is that the awards are being done now and the government leasing that will occur prior to September 30, becomes very, very important because, under continuous dilution what they are able to do is continue to spend up to 2011 levels, just not go into new obligations as they approached into the 2012. So the velocity that needs to get done between now and the end of September 30 is very, very important for both contractors and the government. And then we will see that velocity be able to continue as relates to the 2011, but we anticipate again just like we have experienced this year than a law for new obligations that would occur until that gets resolved and we think it’s probably going to run about the same time into April or so of 2012. Now, earlier in the year they said absolutely the Congress did not want to be in this situation going into an election year and yet you can tell by the difficulties under the negotiations that we clearly projected to be that way. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: And how does that affect kind of the way you guys are looking at starts and that $1.2 million, is a pretty good number for you guys? Do you think that can be aggressive heading into late '11, early '12?

Randall M. Griffin

Management

No, I think what happens Craig is that the leasing that Roger mentioned the 600,000 square feet of development leasing that we think will get done over the next six months that really brings also the existing construction projects up to sufficient levels to then require that we get going on the next round of starts. And generally we like to be 50% leased or so on a building before we start the next one or in some cases like the Redstone Arsenal where we have decent activity on the first one, we have a full building tenant negotiating for the second building and we would like to also have the Flex office product is quite a bit of interest in that starting as well. So there you would start a little bit extra just to be meeting the anticipated demand. So the starts that Wayne mentioned that are in the supplement, really I think very comfortable dictated on the leasing that will take place on the existing construction. And so we feel it’s quite conservative and comfortable. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Hey, it’s Jordan. I just have a one quick follow-up for Steve. There is an income tax benefit of about 5 million I see in the P&L, you might have missed in the commentary on that. Can you put some lighting?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

That is related to some condo sales, part of our strategic reallocation charge and that those goes to our TRS so there is a tax effect for those. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: So is there a gain that offsets that. It looks like it’s included in FFO, right?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

No, it’s part, it is an impairment charge related to the strategic reallocation plan that affects assets held in the TRS, so therefore there is a tax offset to that benefit of that. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Okay. So it should be netted and they’re both in FFO.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

They’re both in the strategic reallocation $0.55 number that’s net number that I’ve given you. Craig Mailman – KeyBanc Capital Markets: Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Guinee with Stifel. Please proceed. John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: Hi, John Guinee here. Sort of back the Envelope Rand, Roger, guys, (inaudible), about 50% plus or minus of your portfolio is this might be an auction run, but you need suburban office space due to the tenancy or the location. And about 50% of your portfolio is fairly generic stuff. So my question is if you're really going to think big in terms of your reallocation plan, how much could you actually move up in addition to this relatively mundane $55 million number that’s been quoted often times?

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Well, John, we continue to evaluate the balance of our portfolio, what we announced in the strategic reallocation plan was there what I will call first Steve and then there are other designated properties behind that, but at this point we’re not in a prepared layout, whether these properties are of the size but we understand that by the time there is another downturn we want to have our portfolio positioned differently with between much more tied to the government and defense spending in the last two generic commercial tenants? John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: So you’re thinking about thinking big.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Yes, John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: Thanks a lot.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Also John you are at 50-50, that number is more like 60-40 and as we said that will move by 2013 and probably little earlier than that as Roger mentioned on the timing of the sales (inaudible) to 67%. So rate there you can see the generics, so-called generic our commodity percentages continuing to move and contract pretty dramatically. John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: All right, thank you very much.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Thank you, John.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo. Please proceed. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo Securities: Thanks good morning. I wanted to follow-up on Craig’s question about just the development pipeline and the starts for next year. I guess, if I’m understanding the comments correctly from Roger and Rand, it’s the development that will be started as you kind of go into next year, if we get continuing resolution that happen again. I mean will the leasing, I guess the pace of leasing is the extrication that it will get kind of delayed in 2012 the way that it has been in 2011 and are you guys kind of comfortable with that in 2012 just given that there is the pent-up demand and it is just the timing issue or do you think you can adjust the level of starts to maybe have less delayed leasing as you go into 2012?

Randall M. Griffin

Management

I think, Brandon, it will be somewhat cyclical and fall into a similar pattern where we will get a, so we think we will get a surge of leasing the balance of this year that will bring up the percentage leased comp under construction to our historically pretty healthy levels. And that then requires the new buildings to get started to meet the continued demand. We don't expect then the first half of 2012 would have a lot of leasing on those projects, but that’s fine because they will have just started and they will be underway. And we do think then in the second half of 2012, you will catch back up as the continued resolution has finished, the budget's finished in mid-2012 and they start once again executing contracts and awarding leases. So I think it’s somewhat into that pattern. It’s unfortunate that the government can get their act together, but it doesn't affect the stock margin and some people have in other sectors have commented while they are worried about the overall demand. I think because of our niche with the government and because of the four bright locations that have to move as I detailed in my comments, we think we are pretty uniquely protected and should experience continued strong demand, albeit it might be cyclical within a year. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo Securities: Okay, that’s helpful. And then, I mean, is there any concern or any consideration that the budget and just kind of scale-back may put a little bit of pressure on the contractor margins and then in turn that could put a little bit of pressure on the yields or on the lease rates that you guys are getting or do you still see a pretty comfortable at the returns and the new development will be in the kind of 10 to 11 cash on cash yield?

Randall M. Griffin

Management

I don't think it’s really affecting our yields and thankfully the construction cost went and this team did a very good job on keeping that down. So we are able to continue to increase the rental rates and there really are no concessions in the development of the construction. So I think we’re in good shape there. I think the overhang of the potential budget cuts in the Department of Defense and Military, which relate primarily to weapons or support contractors that does affect the psyche of the contractors, it doesn't affect the contracts what we are dealing, but it does affect the overall sort of viability and growth of the company's and so the side-effect of that because I think we commented on the last call is that they are little more cautious to make decisions, they want to have leases executed as opposed to going speculatively on that And yet they have this dilemma where once they’ve executed it, they need to be operationally within six months. So that's why we have to free suppose and kind of anticipate their requirements and build ahead of that schedule because it takes us a year to build (Inaudible) and another six months to a year to out fit them. But we don't see a decrease per se in our particular sector, if you were dealing in the weaponry or in the actual support of the force sizes like some of the Defense contractor's are doing directly supporting Iraq and Afghanistan. There you could expect over the next several years to see some reduction in their contracts, but that will have really very minimal impact on us. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo Securities: Okay, that's helpful, and just lastly Steve, the guidance if I strip out the $0.13 in Q2, I think that brings the number to kind of $0.49 to $0.52 or call it $0.50 or $0.51 to mid-point that would imply just to get the mid-point of your overall guidance that the fourth quarter is probably somewhere around $0.57 to $0.58 a share of FFO without any of the KEYW gains in there, what – is that increase just driven by the signing on the leases on the development pipeline and the NOI coming online in the fourth quarter or is there something else that would drive that number up.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

It’s definitely improved occupancy, but also if you look at our pattern the third quarter from an operating expense standpoint seasonally has a little bit higher level of net operating expenses, because of the [heat wave] that we’ve anticipated a little bit higher electricity costs in the third quarter relative to the fourth. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo Securities: Okay great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Knott with Green Street Advisors. Please proceed. Michael Knott – Green Street Advisors: Steve, I was just curious if you had kind of a ballpark same-store number of 2 million feet or so of shrinkage from last quarter, this quarter was included?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Michael, we analyzed that if there wasn't really much of a change between the new same-store portfolio composition, our occupancy actually went up as you can see quarter over quarter, and it actually went up, some in the portfolio that will be divested. Michael Knott – Green Street Advisors: And then Rand on your comments about the ’12 budget going to continuing resolution does that – should the inference be then you would expect another slow patch in say first part of ’12 like happened this year with this year’s impact in the spring?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

If you do have Michael, if you have the continuing resolution, then where you would normally have a pretty steady flow of both government and contractor leasing. Yes, we would expect that the first part of the year as it relates to new commitments would be somewhat slower and then you would catch that back up in the second part. We would have very strong momentum going into that year and into the first part of the year, from leasing that will have occurred as a result of people, contractors and government trying to hurry to get commitments in before September 30th. So the government, they have to sign leases to commit – on the contractor side they have to sign contracts. Contactors then go out seeking space. and so we'll get the balance of the next six months after that leasing related to the ’11 budget and then we’ve got to of course get them in occupancy and that will boost the NOI related to that. So, I think the impact will be a little less than this year, but still they are somewhat in the similar pattern. Michael Knott – Green Street Advisors: Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Nicholas Yulico with Macquarie Capital. Please proceed. Nicholas Yulico – Macquarie Capital: Hi, thanks. What were the TIs and free rent on the second quarter leases and where are they trending in the marketplace today?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Well, TIs averaged $13 per square foot for our renewed and retentive space. And in terms of free rent, our average free rent was less than a month for the leases that we signed during the second quarter. Nicholas Yulico – Macquarie Capital: Okay. And how does that compare to recent quarters?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

The $13 is higher than what we experienced in the 2008, ’09 and ’10 period. It’s down off of last quarter on a per square foot basis, it works out to that $2.75 per square foot of lease year that’s lower than the first quarter and about the same as the last three quarters of last year. So, I don’t think it’s getting worse, but I think it’s still going to be a little more time before we see some improvement there. Nicholas Yulico – Macquarie Capital: Okay. And on the assets held-for-sale on the balance sheet, does that include all of the assets targeted for sale?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

No. it’s just the ones that we think we’ll sell in the next really the balance of this year. Nicholas Yulico – Macquarie Capital: Okay. So that’s sort of [listed] at more than just a $55 million sale that you expect this year. Is that right?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Included in there is the warehouse condominiums that Steve mentioned. And so that’s why it’s an elevated number that will probably take the balance of this year to sell. Nicholas Yulico – Macquarie Capital: Okay. Thanks that’s all I have.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Sri Nagarajan with FBR. Please proceed. Sri Nagarajan – FBR: Thanks. Roger just following on your remarks of accelerating the disposition plan. Obviously is there significant leasing goals that you need to get rid off and get that to come to in terms of getting rid of these assets, specifically with the account that we are hearing that obviously prospective buyers are interest more in stable assets towards value added assets? Thanks.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Sure. The $120 million that I mentioned of assets that were either getting on of course this office owner or somehow did not require that we do additional leasing, we think we are in a position to both pretty quickly and most of those are relatively stable. They have a little bit of leasing opportunity for a perspective buyer but we are not selling them at 70% or 75% lease. Sri Nagarajan – FBR: Thanks, that’s helpful.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the Dave Rogers with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed. David Rogers – RBC Capital Markets: Good morning. Steve question on the data center, following the ’11 budget approval, have you seen better traction there? Thank you for the guidance on full year NOI contribution from data. But given your thoughts about the 2012 budget can you kind of give us thoughts about the ability to stabilize that going into 2013? How the budget resolution that next year might impact that leasing?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Well, I would say similar to as Roger described at some of the parts where we have activity, we’ve seen an increase in notable trip activity at the data center, but it has not resulted in signed leases right now. I do we are hopeful that some of that will turn into leases as we get into early twelve disciplinary activity that’s already circling. In terms of new requirements that might come it might have the same kind of lumpiness during 2012 as Rand described for additional demand beyond that which is circling right now. David Rogers – RBC Capital Markets: Do you have any additional plans to built out more space there at that facility.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

What we’ve done is try to build some capacity ahead of demand, so that we are touring and can get people in. So we have six at the end of the second quarter we delivered and have six megawatts available and plan to add a total of which three at least and plan to add another three megawatts by the end of the year, and that what building all our numbers and projections and talks. David Rogers – RBC Capital Markets: Okay. Great and then Roger, question on the acquisition that you looked at, I think both you and Rand may be said that you were getting out there in the market. Can you give us a sense of what you were looking at your core or super core assets, where these assets continuos with the existing parts or facilities that you have. Just a little more color, it will be interested.

Roger Waesche

President

Yes, they were in markets we are already in and they were leased to our super core tenants and they went for cap rates, that were in the 6% something range, and with IRRs that we thought were in the 7 and some percentage range and we thought at the end of the day, we are value creators, we’re not about trying to arbitrage money until we didn’t pursue those opportunities, but I think as people start to get their pricing more assets will come to market and because we always in the market a few things will find our way to come. David Rogers – RBC Capital Markets: Great. Last question I would like to see on your debt refinancings on the line of credit, do you any color to provide on the costs or what the direction might be for fees et cetera.

Roger Waesche

President

Well at today’s leverage levels we would expect pricing to be at 200 basis points over LIBOR versus the 95 that we’re borrowing out today. David Rogers – RBC Capital Markets: Okay. Thank you.

Roger Waesche

President

Thanks (inaudible).

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Chris Lucas with Robert W. Baird. Please proceed. Chris Lucas – Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc.: Just a couple of follow up questions, Steve on the data center activity there have been like closures among the various federal facilities and obviously more slated to closure. Have you seen any awards that reflect that activity at this point or is that still in the shopping stage.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

I think there is some shopping going on that were lining up to participate and trying to fulfill some of those needs we also had some governments towards among the actual liberty even along with contractors, along with commercial demand there. Chris Lucas – Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc.: Okay. And then just can you give us a sense us to what the assets that are putting to the discontinued operation, what the level of NOI that is for the quarter.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

I don’t have that, with me Chris. We can just follow up on that. Chris Lucas – Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc.: And then Wayne, it sounded like are shifting to product mix at Redstone a little bit, I guess we could may be provide some color on, how you’re thinking about the demand there and whether they are a little more price sensitive than may be the original thinking.

Wayne Lingafelter

Management

Chris we’ve added to the portfolio I just described I wouldn’t necessarily quite heard that it shifted at all I think we still feel strongly about the traditional role at the suburban office will play in that market. So we’ve added the single storey FLEX product, but the portfolio of the plan still has a significant suburban multi-storey component to it, which I think will do quite well.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

And I think the margins are holding up well. Certainly with new products, we were the only ones with any new product coming on the market and we’ll be at the high end of that market comparable to the most recent new buildings. When you have a large park like that streaching 5 million square feet, I think you want to have multiple price points. There are some contractors who have different kind of requirements that don't fit as well on the multi-storey high-class A office buildings that will work well. We also are in discussions on, behind the fence on some security facilities that will be also different kind of requirements.

Wayne H. Lingafelter

Analyst · Chris Lucas with Robert W

Yes, Chris, the plan has always have that FLEX product in it, we just have moved to it to give ourselves some diversity in the market. Chris Lucas – Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc.: Okay, great. Thanks, guys.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our next question is from the line of Steve Sakwa with ISI Group, please proceed Steve Sakwa – Isi Group Inc: Hi, Steve Sakwa, good morning. This is for Steve Riffee, I just want to make sure I understand three numbers, in terms of a fiscal year full year ‘11 term fees, stock sale and land sales gains, I just want to make sure I have those down for the full year?

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

The turn keys, we’ve only had $340,000 year-to-date and are projecting $1.5 million for the second half of the year. We would just typically split it in half and say $750,000 a quarter. In terms of KUYW gain, so everything that I have reported that we’ve done year-to-date $5.2 million happen through six months. Then Rand resigned from their Board on July 1, so we move some equity accounting criteria significant influence to mark-to-market accounting and so it now is depends on the change in their stock price. And I gave you a calculation looking for the basis here that if you take the stock price last night, it would be minus, it would be $0.13 an hour basis is 2.6 million shares $7.45 a share. So we just took that gain, locked in at both ends of our ranges of guidance and would this report be actual results based on that. Steve Sakwa – Isi Group Inc: But your expectation is to sell all that by the end of this year.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Well, what we’ve done is we suspended the 10b5-1 plan as of the beginning of the quarter. And then 90 days after Rand’s resignation, which I believe is July 1st then he is no longer being inside, which allows us to execute sales more freely than sections of the 10b5-1 plan. So we – so therefore, plan not to sell during the 90-day period, which is this next quarter and then be capable – being in the market to continue to sell shares.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

I don’t think Steve that necessarily presumes that we would tell all of that before you’re in.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Well, and then land sales. Say that would make up the balance of the $18 million to $20 million that I gave.

Wayne H. Lingafelter

Analyst · Chris Lucas with Robert W

$2.5 million.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

That’s year-to-date.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is a follow-up from the line of John Guinee with Stifel. Please proceed. John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: John Guinee, again. I hadn't anticipated asking this. But basically what you guys are saying in response to the previous question, if you add up your lease term fee here today, your KEYW $5.2 million and land sales, you basically have booked, in other income, $8 million. And you have another, I guess, $10 million of mark-to-market for KEYW and then another $1.5 million for lease term fees?

Randall M. Griffin

Management

I’ll try. John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: Okay. Those numbers make sense.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Okay. John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: All right. Rand, just out of curiosity you’re a pretty smart guy. why are you leaving the Board of this company?

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Well, I think as they – we invested early on when they were in the formular stages and we (inaudible) from his previous ramp up at SX and had a lot of confidence in himself. I think our primary role is to give guidance to help them get public, that’s been accomplished I think increasingly the demands of time of that board, I just didn’t want to spend the time there, I think that they view this as they were anxious to make sure that I got off the board and it sometimes when you’re the largest owner in the company sitting there on the board, sometimes that can be potentially concerned for them. And so we were able to just on a friendly basis separate off. It doesn’t mean we don’t have influence, it’s the largest owner, but I am just not involved in that sort of activities. And we do think it does give us a little bit more freedom not being an insider. John Guinee – Stifel Nicolaus & Company, Inc.: Great. Thank you.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Knott with Green Street Advisors. Michael Knott – Green Street Advisors: Hey, Rand you’ve obviously have been leading this company day-to-day for a long time and as you think about retiring potentially next year as being Chairman something that you would be personally interested in, and if so is that are shouldn’t that be something that’s on the table at the Board meeting when this topic is discussed?

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Well, I think, first of it is my expectation that if I do is, when I retire I would continue to be active on the Board and play meaningful role. I think it’s up to the Board and the dynamics of that certainly is to whether or not they would want to move me into that position and I don’t think I am in a position to speculate on those dynamics. I think I can play a meaningful role and help the company regardless of what title I have on the Board and certainly we’ve worked very hard as a team on succession planning with great shape you know if when not occurs and so you know I think you will continued strong performance from the company, it’s accelerating really out into the future. Michael Knott – Green Street Advisors: Thank you.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

And our final question is a follow-up from the line of Brendan Maiorana with Wells Fargo. Please proceed. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo: Thanks. Just a quick one for Steve. Just a follow-up on couple of previous questions. So I guess if I am looking at the numbers correctly on guidance, it seems like the additional $0.07 of share related to the higher other income which is primarily KEYW mark-to-market, that’s effectively pulling forward the gain on that, on your basis relative to where the share price is into 2011 whereas the prior expectation was what that all of that was not going to be sold in 2011 and will be recognized in 12.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

That’s correct. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo: Okay, great.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

I mean that will be effect of it. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo: Yeah, so okay. I mean obviously if the shares keep going up you guys will recognize more in the latter half of the year in the ’12, but okay as it’s same and [hoping] into 2012.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Yeah, you understand how it works. Brendan Maiorana – Wells Fargo: Okay, great thank you.

Stephen E. Riffee

Management

Thank you.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Thank you. Operator That concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back to Mr. Griffin for closing remarks.

Randall M. Griffin

Management

Well, thank you very much, we appreciate it, and we are available for any additional calls or questions you might have. And we look forward to our next call in the end of October.