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Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Central Garden & Pet’s Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Devin, and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. [Operator Instructions]As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Steven Zenker, Vice President of Investor Relations, FP&A and Communications. Please go ahead.
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Steven Zenker
Analyst
Thank you, Devin. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. With me on the call today are Tim Cofer; Central’s new Chief Executive Officer; Niko Lahanas, our Chief Financial Officer; Howard Machek, our SVP, Finance and Chief Accounting Officer; JD Walker, our President, Garden Branded Business; and John Hanson, our President, Pet Consumer Products.A press release providing results for our fourth quarter ended September 28, 2019, is available on our website at www.central.com. Also on the website is the GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation for any non-GAAP measures discussed on this call.Before I turn the call over to Tim, I’d like to remind you that statements made during this conference call which are not historical facts, including EPS and other guidance for 2020, expectations for new capital investments and product introductions, future acquisitions, and improved revenue and profitability are forward-looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those implied by forward-looking statements.These risks and others are described in Central’s Securities and Exchange Commission filings including our annual report on Form 10-K has filed today. Central undertakes no obligation to publicly update these forward-looking statements to reflect new information, subsequent events or otherwise.Now, I will turn the call over to our new CEO, Tim Cofer. Tim?
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Tim Cofer
Analyst
Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon. It’s a pleasure to be here with all of you today on my first earnings call as the new CEO of Central Garden & Pet. Given that I am only a few weeks into my tenure here at Central, I am going to defer to our CFO, Niko Lahanas, to review the results for the quarter and the year.But before turning it over to Niko, I’d like to say a few words about why I came to Central and my initial observations about the opportunities on how we can unlock our company’s potential. I have spent the first six weeks immersing myself in all things Central, our business, our brands, our customers and our employees.I have embraced an aggressive on-boarding agenda traveling coast to coast conducting in-depth business reviews touring many of our facilities, meeting key customers and listening to a great deal of feedback from my Central colleagues. As a result of these engagements, I have developed a keen appreciation and respect for what Central has built and even greater enthusiasm for our potential moving forward.In my 30 years of consumer products experience, I have had the privilege to lead many different businesses here in the United States and across the globe. In my most recent role as Chief Growth Officer of Mondelēz International, I led all consumer and customer facing functions, including corporate and M&A strategy, insights and analytics, marketing, sales, e-commerce, research and development, quality and innovation.In partnership with the Chairman and CEO of Mondelēz, I led the development and execution of the company’s growth strategy, which resulted in accelerated topline growth with continued margin expansion.My other general management experience includes P&L President roles at Oscar Meyer Foods, Kraft Pizza Company, Kraft Foods Europe and Mondelēz Asia-Pacific, Middle East, Africa. Although, these…
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst
Thank you, Tim, and good afternoon, everyone. Our press release for our fourth quarter fiscal year financial results was issued earlier today. For fiscal year 2019, sales increased 7.6% due in large part to acquisitions.Bell Nursery and general pet were part of our first and second quarter results, and while their inclusion added sales, they did reduce margins and overall profitability. In fiscal 2019, we purchased Arden in our second fiscal quarter and it aided both sales and profits. Finally, we close on C&S in our third fiscal quarter and that was a small sales and profit contributor for the year.Our overall organic growth of 1.5% was attributable to our Garden segment which grew 4% organically, despite unfavorable weather for the controlled category.Organic growth for the Pet segment was relatively flat, held back meaningfully by our animal health businesses, which were impacted by very unfavorable weather for our fly control, canopy additive and grain protection products. In addition, continuing weakness in our consumer behavior management products due to performance issues and increased competition was also a drag on Pet’s results.Our total company growth margin, 29.5% for the year declined 100 basis points. Half of that decline was attributable to acquisitions that were in this year’s results but not last year’s results. The largest impact was from the inclusion of two quarters of Bell Nursery this year that were not in last year’s results. Those quarters for Bell had sizable losses as the business earns all of its profit in one quarter, our third fiscal quarter.The lower results in our Animal Health businesses in an unfavorable mix of products sales also contributed to the gross margin decline. Our Animal Health businesses tend to have higher margins and so when they underperform, they have a disproportionately large impact on the bottom line.Operating…
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Brad Thomas with KeyBanc. Please with your question.
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Brad Thomas
Analyst
Hi. Good afternoon, everyone, and Tim, welcome.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst
Thank you.
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Brad Thomas
Analyst
I guess, hope ---- first I was hoping to kick it off with a high level question for Tim and then ask a couple of follow-ups on the financials to Niko, if I could. Tim, I guess, as you analyze the business and think about some of these investments that could position Central for accelerating growth. I guess how do you think about the level of investment that may be needed and the payoff with which you may be able to see some return on those investments?
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Tim Cofer
Analyst
Sure. I think it’s important to say upfront it’s only been a few weeks in the saddle, so there’s still a lot to learn. But if I have done the first round of business reviews and had a chance to meet our leadership on the ground and many of our business units around the country. I do think we find ourselves with a lot of opportunity and that opportunity can be further unlocked I think with some investment.The way I think about it is in a few buckets. I mean, one, clearly, as I said in my comments, in the whole consumer space, really understanding the way that our consumer approaches these categories, knowing our categories better than our competition, enhancing our brand equity, building distinctive brands, driving some disruptive innovation and winning in the highest growth channel in the United States today, which is the e-commerce channel. Those are all big opportunities I think for us.But it’s not just in that space, I think the other areas are actually on the cost side. I think we have got some meaningful opportunities to advance our productivity agenda and that will provide two different benefits.One is, obviously, as fuel into that growth agenda and the other is obviously to enhance our margin structure from where it is. And I am encouraged by what I see on that. That too may require some investment and may require some CapEx, et cetera.Finally, to the second part of your question. Clearly, I have a strong eye on returns and we will be assessing these opportunities as on a ROI basis. I think it’s fair to say that some of these won’t return in the first year -- in the first fiscal year. And so, I am looking at it obviously as a new CEO to have a clear eye on returns. But make sure we are doing the right thing for the long-term of this business and to really drive that long-term sustainable profitable growth.Finally, as mentioned, I’d like to take a few more months to really do the deeper dive and I will come back in the spring with a more comprehensive and cogent view on your question.
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Brad Thomas
Analyst
That’s very helpful. Thank you, Tim. Niko, as we look at the quarter and try and get a sense for some of the margin, puts and takes, can you help us think about quantifying sort of the one-time items in here like when we think about some of the receivable and inventory write downs, could you quantify those aspects for us in the quarter?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst
We are a little remiss to quantify, because if we wanted to, we would have non-GAAP those. But what I will tell you is absent the receivables, the inventory and the CEO costs are both are our dollars and our margin would have been higher than the year before.
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Brad Thomas
Analyst
Perfect. That’s very helpful. And then just lastly for me, I guess, as we think about the first quarter, can you help us think a little bit more on puts and takes in -- from a margin perspective and sales perspective that are driving that net earnings range that you guided us towards?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst
Yeah. So largely the first quarter, keep in mind, it’s the smallest quarter for Central. So small puts and takes can have large impacts on the bottomline. So, overall, we came into the quarter with a very soft grass seed planting season because of the excessive heat in October. So that was sort of an immediate headwind coming into the quarter.Then if you recall a year ago, we had one retailer on the Garden side that was very aggressive with respect to their load in. They signaled that that’s not going to repeat. So we have kind of those two headwinds going on.And then on the Pet side, it’s really timing of orders around the Animal Health and Bedding businesses, so we are seeing some timing effects there as well. And then, lastly, higher corporate costs around executive comp, as well as some investment in IT.
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Brad Thomas
Analyst
That’s very helpful. I will turn it over to others and good luck to you all.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst
Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Carey from Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
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Chris Carey
Analyst · your question.
Hi. Good evening.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · your question.
Hello.
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Chris Carey
Analyst · your question.
And Tim, welcome.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst · your question.
Thank you.
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Chris Carey
Analyst · your question.
So, a few questions here, I guess, just first on the quarter and then have questions on some other dynamics over time. But, I guess, if you think about some of the pricing initiatives that have been part of the story over the course of the year, and certainly, heading into next year. Doesn’t really seem like any of that has provided much help? And I appreciate that mix. It has been a dynamic here, right? But this is kind of like the second year when gross margins are declining and mix gets called out. And I just -- and it sounds like probably gross margins are going to decline again next year if investments are happening and I suppose I don’t know exactly where all those investments are occurring. But it seems to me like that’s the case. And so, I guess, because topline came in fine, certainly comps helped. But I think the full picture is still a little confusing. And I guess, Niko, am I off here, is this that you are -- if this is the case where we are not going to get a lot of visibility on the gross margin line for a while, and maybe if, Tim and Niko, if you could comment on where some of these investments are going to be happening?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · your question.
So I will kind of comment on some of your comments. So, as far as pricing goes, we did take a fairly broad-based pricing across many of our businesses. I will tell you that there were some pockets where we took actually some price decreases because commodities did come down and that’s something that is very transparent to the retailers. So they know exactly what’s going on those commodity markets and there’s no hiding from that.So I would say that that’s one issue that’s out there. The other issue is, obviously, when you do take price, there are some elasticity implications as well.Third would be as we mentioned in our earlier comments, we are lapping, if you look at the acquisitions we did, we did take on some negative quarters with respect to Bell and now with most recent one with Arden. Those things all are going to have impacts on the gross margin line.The other thing I would say is, I can’t under -- I can’t overstate enough really, I know you are obviously tired of hearing it. But the mix issue and in our Animal Health businesses don’t perform. You are going to see it, you are going to see it at the gross margin line and you are going to see it at the operating margin line and that’s just a fact around our business.Now, I will address the other issue around gross margin in 2020. I can tell you that we are planning to expand margins in 2020. We are going to get more detail on that probably later in the year. But we have every intention of expanding margins at that gross margin line.
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Chris Carey
Analyst · your question.
Okay. Okay. And maybe just on the buyback program, right? So maybe let me know if my read here is wrong, but you still have the $100 million authorization and you basically had already bought back shares when you announced the authorization, so maybe I haven’t been as active recently, and perhaps, you thought that there was a potential that the stock would be down tomorrow, which I suppose it could be. And so is there a way to think about the cadence of this deployment going forward if your stock is down tomorrow as much as it was initially indicated, is that the type of time when you would be opportunistic or is there another type of way that you are thinking about deploying that program over time?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · your question.
Well, I mean, the way we are thinking of it is, if the stock drops and we find ourselves that an implied multiple of 6 times or 7 times. That’s extremely attractive. As we look at M&A, we can’t find businesses that are that attractive on the outside.So, when we see our stock drop to those levels, that’s something we are going to act on, because it’s the right thing to do. It’s a tremendous value. We believe in our story. We believe in our people and why wouldn’t we support that?I will tell you, internally the way we think about it though is the $500 million that we have raised to both debt and equity that’s really earmarked for M&A. That’s not something we are going to be really going after and buying our stock back. And the way we think of the stock buyback is we really want to do that with our cash flow.So, really you can see we have been buying back and we still have the same amount of cash on the balance sheet. So we have an effect compartmentalize it. But if our stock drops to a certain level we are going to support it because it’s a tremendous value.
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Chris Carey
Analyst · your question.
Okay. That makes sense and then just one final one. Just trying to understand this flat to slightly up guidance for earnings next fiscal year And if you could kind of, I suppose, frame it between how much of that is getting impacted by the proactive investments that you are doing to drive longer term sustainability versus, say, some of the challenges that you are seeing in the business like an Animal Health or otherwise. So how much of one versus the other and then maybe how much of the impact we could see from the facility fire that you highlighted in the press release? So that’s it for me. Thank you.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · your question.
We will probably deal the dimensional lies the impact between the investments spent and the Animal Health business later in the year. We are going to get more detail going forward. But I will give you a couple of comments.In the last few years, we have cut our spent. And for good read, if you go back to ‘18, poor Garden season and we didn’t want to lean into that. This year, it was Animal Health, as well as our gen 1 Comfort Zone product that that wasn’t performing. So we didn’t want to lean into that either.So, in that respect, it was really the right thing to do, given that we believe the returns will not going to be there for us. But what I would tell you, as we went -- when we went for our 2020 planning process, we began really challenging the plan and really asking some tough questions around, are we happy with our current growth rates, are we happy with our share, are we losing share, are we being aggressive enough around digital in our consumer facing agenda.And if the answers are no, are we sufficiently investing in the steps to substantiate the higher growth, as well as the market share gains. So those are really some tough questions we were asking ourselves and those are the things we are going to probably come back with in more detail later in the year.Let me shift to Animal Health really quick and just talk a little bit about the challenges there, which include both the consumer, as well as the pro business. And the challenges have been will be to get our market share back in that consumer business around the Comfort Zone products. And that’s on us, we have to go out there, spend…
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Chris Carey
Analyst · your question.
Thanks, Niko. Appreciate that.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Bill Chappell with SunTrust. Please proceed you are your question.
Grant O’Brien: Hi. This is actually Grant on for Bill. Thanks for taking my question and hi to Tim.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst
Hi, Grant.
Grant O’Brien: The first one for us, just on the Pet segment, just for the charge-off in the quarter on the Pet Bedding side, I am assuming that’s all related to the fire and not any lower demand, but just wanted to double check that.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst
No. So, both the receivables and the inventory were on the Pet side. The receivables were due to -- we had two bank customers go bankrupt in the fourth quarter where we had to write-off those receivables. And then the inventory was largely due to the write-off of the Comfort Zone, Generation 1 product. So those are the two primary drivers.
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John Hanson
Analyst
Not related to the fire.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst
So not related to the fire. The fire is a very recent thing and we are still getting reports in terms of the investigation that’s going on. So we are still pulling the facts together. We will obviously have a lot more information come February, but it is -- it’s fresh news even for us. So, unfortunately, we don’t have a ton of detail there.
Grant O’Brien: Got it. Okay. And then maybe just thinking longer term, your capital allocation strategy, it sounds like next year the CapEx spend is going to step up, but do you still feel like you have a number of potential M&A opportunities in the pipeline, is that really the focus still going forward?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst
Absolutely. It’s really the focus is going to be M&A and then also capital projects internally, meaning, growth, as well as cost savings. So those are really the top two. And then, as I mentioned earlier, when we see our stock drop to the levels I have mentioned, we are going to be buyers at those levels just because we really believe in what we are doing here.
Grant O’Brien: Got it. Thank you. I will hop up.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of William Reuter with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
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Unidentified Analyst
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, guys. This is Mike [ph] on for Bill. Following up on the commentary about the M&A pipeline, is there a maximum size we should expect for a potential target?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
No. I think we remain fairly open to size. It’s kind of across the Board. I don’t see us doing something over $1 billion just to be fully transparent. The other way to think about it too is, we are going to look at M&A from a product standpoint but also from a capability standpoint. So, that’s another thing we really look at in terms of if we see a business that has really strong digital capabilities and we want to up our game, that’s something we might look at.So we are going to look at M&A across a number of factors and I think $1 billion is going to be on the high end. But we do have about $1.1 billion of dry powder. So that gives you sort of an idea of what we could do. I suppose if we saw something bigger, you could always do some deal financing along with it.
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Unidentified Analyst
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Great. And then, just could you talk about the private label performance and if there’s any change with the percentage of total sales? Thanks.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
So, right now, I will just talk overall company private label and then I will let our segment heads talk about their respective areas of business. Overall, we are north of 15% now as far as private label and a lot of that has been due to the acquisitions we have made. So some of the acquisitions we have done recently tended to have a big portion of their business being private label.Overall, as everyone knows it’s very strong consumer trends. We like the business particularly when we are the low cost producer. Typically, with retailers we are able to get our own products on the shelf, as well as the private label. We know it’s going to get bidded out to somebody, may as well be us is the way we look at it and that way we have really a more meaningful relationship with the retailer, if you think about it.The other thing it does for us internally it fills up our manufacturing plants. So we get a lot of operating leverage out of that and it really helps all the products in the plant. So that’s sort of how we think about on a macro scale. I will turn it over to our segment heads to talk about those.
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JD Walker
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Sure. This is JD. I will speak to the Garden segment. We plan the private label brands across a number of our categories fertilizers, controls, grass seed, wild bird feed, outdoor replacement cushions even in lab goods and it’s important business to us.And Niko touched on the key drivers behind that. It gives us a larger share in the shelf because. It gives us more critical mass with that retailer. It also helps with factoring plant utilization favorable variances as a result of that.And then the last thing I touch on is just a strategic relationship with that retailer, because you are co-developing that brand with the retailer. And I think that we have been able -- effectively able to leverage additional branded business as a result of our private label business. John?
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John Hanson
Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Yeah. This is John Hanson. I would echo in that as well. We continue to like the opportunity in private label, some categories more than others. But it does give us a partnership with our customers and it absorbs overhead.And it also gives us an ability to help the customer in the category and protect our brands and lead our brands and become a category leader and a business partner with our customers. So we continue to like it very much and very much on consumer trend. Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Jim Chartier with Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
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Jim Chartier
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Hi. Thanks for taking my questions.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Hi, Jim.
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Jim Chartier
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
I know you talked about the impact of Animal Health and some other things on the full year. But just in terms of the fourth quarter sales performance versus what you expected back in August, how did things come in versus your plan?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
We were a little bit short to plan on the sales side, but we -- again, we had nice organic growth on that topline in both Pet and Garden. So we felt pretty good about the topline in Q4.
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Jim Chartier
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Okay. And the Pet Bedding business last quarter you guys I think called that out as a reason for the topline shortfall and you expect it, so you had a good visibility into orders for fourth quarter. So how did Pet Bedding play out in fourth quarter?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
So, Pet Bedding really slowed down in the quarter towards the end. And it came up a tad short, even though we -- I know we have mentioned we had like 56% of the orders on the last call, but things had really, really slowed down in that bedding business in the quarter. So it was a little under.
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Jim Chartier
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Okay. And then I know you have talked about kind of the investments for next year and just understanding. I mean this year for fourth quarter, it looks like some one-time-ish type items cost you guys like $0.11 in the fourth quarter. You have also talked about earlier this year an impact of some legal expenses last quarter. You wrote-off the Arden inventory earlier this year, which was a drag on earnings. You wrote down some home decor inventory last quarter and so there’s a lot of one-time expenses within that a $1.60. So how do we think about that in terms of your expectations for next year?
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Yeah. And again, really for next year the two main drivers are going to be that investment spent and also our tempered outlook on Animal Health. In the Animal Health space there’s more going on than just weather, there’s trade, there’s some real macro factors.We don’t know how quickly or if at all we will be able to gain market share back in the Comfort Zone product. So there’s just enough uncertainty there for us to temper our outlook. And then again we plan on being very aggressive on the spend side, so that’s kind of where we are right now.That’s very high level I know and I know everyone wants more, but we are going to give more detail later in the year. Keep in mind, Tim, has only been here a matter of weeks and we need to get him properly on boarded and he’s got to get his arms around the business and then think strategically going forward.
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Jim Chartier
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
All right. And just, finally, on the behavior modification in the Comfort Zone, understanding kind of the sales challenges and market share challenge. How is the reformulated product performed in testing and at the consumer level?
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John Hanson
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Yeah. So we have talked about -- this is John. We talked about Comfort Zone before. We did have a mess up and we have worked really diligently on reformulating the product. And over the past quarter in Q4 investing in digital commerce, as well as brick-and-mortar to get that product back to where we need it.I wouldn’t say it’s all the way back, but I think when you feel very confident about the category and the brand and we are very excited about the future that we can get this turned around for growth in fiscal ‘20.
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Jim Chartier
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Great. Thanks and best of luck this year.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you.
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John Hanson
Analyst · Monness Crespi & Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you, Jim.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Peter Grom with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
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Peter Grom
Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Hey. Good evening, everyone.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Good evening.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Hello, Peter.
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Peter Grom
Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
So, Tim, kind of given your background at Mondelez and kind of the context of what we have seen in CPG, I guess over the past few years or this year with Pepsi, Colgate. I can’t help but think that the increased investments that you are talking to and kind of the earnings growth you are looking to deliver this year kind of looks like a rebase. I know it’s been talked a lot about during this call, but clearly something in the first few weeks pointing to investments being a driver of improved performance. So just kind of -- is there anything you can share that gives you comfort that higher spend is going to be enough to improve market share performance, is there anything you can share in terms of where the spend is going to be directed? And then, I guess, lastly, do you feel your current FY ‘20 guidance reflects the appropriate level of spend or is this reinvesting commentary still in the early innings and kind of could be ratcheted up higher later in the year? Thanks.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Yeah. Thank you. Look, again, I will preface by saying it is early days and only a few weeks in the role. But I am to, I guess, one of the three sub questions you asked. I am confident that we can get a good return on this spend certainly over time.Again, whether all occurs in a fiscal year, I think my experience would suggest that it doesn’t always work that way. And realize too, as everyone knows their fiscal calendar we are already the better part of two months into the fiscal. So I am not necessarily saying for fiscal ‘20. But certainly over time that’s going to be my orientation and our orientation.I think many of you have followed our company for some time. You know that our level of investment spent on the consumer side in the area of insights and marketing and innovation is actually a smaller part relative to some of the other firms you referenced in your question from a consumer standpoint, and therefore, that marginal impact of that investment, I think, can be quite meaningful.As I have gone around to many of the business units and talked about -- talked to our folks about return on investment in these areas, particularly in the digital space, I am actually seeing some very encouraging numbers, that gives me confidence that when we put a little more fuel into that system that we can see a nice pop.So, a lot more to come, a lot more diligence to follow and I want to assure you and others that our orientation is going to be around investing where we feel like there’s a good return in the years to come.Then the last part of your question was, should we think the amount of investment for ‘20 is appropriate and consistent with that guidance that Niko provided. My short answer is, yes. It does provide -- while on this call, we are not in a position to break up the exact detail of the numbers, I would say, it gives us a good basis for reinvestment across a number of areas.And as Niko outlined, that’s one of the reasons why we have guided where we have guided is because we feel good about that level of investment and I don’t anticipate that will change as we progress through fiscal ‘20.
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Peter Grom
Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
That was helpful. Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Hale Holden with Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
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Hale Holden
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
Hi. Thanks for taking the call. I had two questions. Tim, as part of your evaluation of the portfolio, is it possible we might see divestitures too? It’s been a long time since the company has kind of pruned some of the assets that it has?
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Tim Cofer
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
Well, look, I would say, generally, my point of view on portfolio strategy is, it’s a very healthy discipline to consistently look at your portfolio and make sure that each of the pieces are contributing to the party. And to me that’s just kind of good housekeeping at this stage, nothing specific to share in terms of any sort of divestiture candidates, but to me, it’s just part of good general management.I would say, overall, this company in the last many years have built a nice track record of growth through acquisition and brought in nice additions both in foreign and adjacent category that have added to the overall portfolio.The other thing in my first few weeks, we have done I think a good job of kind of doing postmortems on recent acquisitions to understand are they contributing, as we had hoped, are they delivering on the investment thesis. And to the extent they are great, how can we do more. To the extent they are, what do we need to do to get those back on track. So that will be a part of the continuing discipline we have as a leadership team.
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Hale Holden
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you. And then on a Pet Bedding facility fire, I was wondering if you could give us some insight into if you thought that was going to leave you short meaningful inventory to ship into the channel or if you are going to be able to source it from third-party manufacturers or elsewhere?
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John Hanson
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
This is John. Yes. As we stated, we had a fire in our distribution center of our Pet Bedding business in November. No one was injured. We have a team on the ground that are in the process of really understanding the damage and going through all the details of the business and the damage.We are doing our absolute best to continue to service customers and we are working through each customer individually in terms of can we do that with existing inventory or how we get that done. We do, as we mentioned, have very good insurance. The timing of receiving that insurance and those benefits may impact quarters. But, overall, we expect minimal financial impact in total.
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Hale Holden
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
So you wouldn’t expect to lose any shelf space or have any issues with kind of your retail partners.
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Niko Lahanas
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
I think it’s hard to call right now. We are going to have to see how the season plays out. But right now it’s sort of hard to call.
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Hale Holden
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
Okay. Thank you. And Tim, congrats on the new seat.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst · Barclays, Inc. Please proceed with your question.
Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
Since there are no further questions left in the queue, I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Tim Cofer for any closing remarks.
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Tim Cofer
Analyst
Okay. Very good. I want to thank everyone for attending our earnings call and I wish everyone a wonderful Thanksgiving. Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
This concludes today’s teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.