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Centerra Gold Inc. (CGAU)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 7, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Centerra Gold Second Quarter 2022 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, Monday, November 7, 2022. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tobey Caron, Treasurer and Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Toby Caron

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to Centerra Gold’s third second quarter 2022 results conference call. Please note that presentation slides are available on Centerra Gold’s website to accompany each speaker’s remarks. Today’s call is open to all members of the investment community and media in listen-only mode. Following the formal remarks, the operator will give the instructions for each for asking a question and then we will open the line to questions. Please note that all figures are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise noted. Joining me on the call today are Paul Wright, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer; Paul Chawrun, Chief Operating Officer; and Darren Millman, Chief Financial Officer. I would like to caution everyone that certain statements made today are forward-looking statements and as such are subject to known and unknown risks, which may cause our actual results to differ from those expressed or implied. Also, certain of the measures we will discuss today are non-GAAP measures. Please refer to the description of non-GAAP measures in our news release and MD&A issued this morning. For a more detailed discussion on the material assumptions, risks and uncertainties please refer to our news release and MD&A along with the unaudited financial statements and notes and all of our other filings, which can be found on SEDAR, EDGAR and on the company’s website at centerragold.com. And now I will turn the call over to Paul.

Paul Wright

Analyst

Thank you, Toby. Good morning and welcome to our third quarter conference call. Prior to commencing with our presentation, I wish to make a few brief comments regarding my time to-date in this interim role. My priority over the last 60 days has been to get out to our business units to better understand the people, the physical assets, the challenges and opportunities. I am pleased to report that the company now has highly confident dedicated professionals running our operations. I am very optimistic for the future of the company. I have and will continue to engage our shareholders as it relates to their opinions and concerns and work to ensure that there is clarity in terms of our strategy for the company going forward. Finally, the search for our permanent CEO was underway with an executive search firm retained and now active on the file. Moving on to the presentation, I will in three slides briefly cover our short-term strategy and the corporate and ESG highlights. So, turning to Slide 4 on the deck, top of the list predictively is returning Öksüt to normal operations through the completion of the modification reagent and obtaining all regulatory approvals for the restart. This is closely followed by continual optimization of operations at the Mount Milligan mine, an extensive mine site exploration. The recently completed LOM plan provides a stable platform for further enhancement, led by Paul Chawrun and his team. The Goldfields project in Nevada, purchased earlier in 2022, is being advanced with an initial resource estimate, incorporating ongoing drilling scheduled for mid-2023 for the feasibility study to follow. Finally, in light of improving molybdenum prices, we are updating our view on the molybdenum business unit, including the possibility of a restart of the company 100% owned Thompson Creek mine. Turning…

Paul Chawrun

Analyst

Thank you, Paul. On Slide 8, we have the operating highlights at Mount Milligan for the quarter. Mount Milligan continues to be a low cost mine, as you can see, with our quarterly gold production costs at $729 per ounce and all-in sustaining costs on a byproduct basis at $615 per ounce. The total gold produced for the quarter was a little over 54,000 ounces and copper was 19 million pounds. The operating plan remains on track for year end projections with the quarterly total material movement at 11.9 million tons and ore mined at approximately 5.3 million tons. At the plant, quarterly ore throughput was 5.5 million tons and that included a major shutdown in September. Both the mine and the plant are on track for record annual production. The copper head grade was 0.2% and the recovery was 82.4%, with the gold grade at 0.47 grams per ton and recovery at 66.2%. Copper grades are lower primarily because you are starting to feed a higher proportion of the high grade gold, low grade copper ore, or HGLC, you will see in the technical report, which will continue for the remainder of the year and into the future. Installation of the stage flotation reactors were completed earlier this year. This quarter, we have demonstrated the benefits with elevated copper and gold recoveries in tandem with increased throughput and the periodic blending of low grade copper ore. On Slide 9, we provide the operating results for Öksüt. As the company has previously reported, the ADR plant gold room operations have been suspended since March of this year. Mining activities have continued through the quarter, including ore recovery, crushing and stacking. Approximately 1 million tons of ore was stacked at a grade of 1.96 grams per ton for over 63,000 ounce…

Darren Millman

Analyst

Thanks, Paul and good morning, all. For those following on the slide deck, I’ll be speaking initially to Slide 13. Centerra recorded $179 million in net revenue during the quarter consisting of the Mount Milligan mine and the molybdenum business unit. No revenue was recorded at the Öksüt mine. At the Mount Milligan mine, gross gold sales and copper sales were $68 million and $49 million respectively. In the quarter, Mount Milligan sold 56,245 ounces of gold and 19.6 million pounds of copper. As previously reported, the ADR plant is currently suspended. The Öksüt mine has no recorded gold sales ore production in the quarter. However, stored gold and carbon inventory has continued to grow in the quarter currently holding in excess of 100,000 recoverable ounces at September 30. The cost associated with the Öksüt stored gold and carbon inventory is approximately $440 per ounce, which has been capitalized as current assets within inventory. The recorded costs will only flow through the earning statement upon processing at the ADR plant. At the molybdenum business unit, approximately 3.3 million pounds of molybdenum were sold, generating $61 million in revenue. During the quarter, the Mount Milligan mine operations average gold price was $1,204 per gold ounce and $2.49 per pound of copper. This incorporates the existing streams over the mine. Cash used in operating activities by operations were $17 million for the quarter and $35 million in free cash flow deficit in the quarter. As noted in the MD&A, the Mount Milligan mine recognized $33 million in positive operating cash flow and $21 million in free cash flow. As noted by Paul, another strong operational performance of the Mount Milligan mine, this was partially offset by higher production cost including diesel fuel, grinding media, liners, and equipment rebuilds. Some of these items…

Paul Wright

Analyst

Thank you, Darren. Because we wrap up here, I’d like to reiterate a few points. Our guidance is on track with strong cash flows at the Mount Milligan mine in the third quarter. We continue to make steady progress towards the Öksüt reopening. The KR deal was finally closed in the quarter. We have initiated a normal course issuer bid. And lastly, we have issued a new Mount Milligan Technical Report with an updated life of mine that highlighted the mine life extension and increased reserves. With that operator, please open up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Trevor Turnbull with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Trevor Turnbull

Analyst

Yes, thank you guys. I wondered just with respect to the dividend that you just paid out this quarter, if we should expect that to continue while we are waiting for Öksüt to resume production and sales given that you have got significant cash reserves?

Paul Wright

Analyst

Yes, Trevor, I will sort of answer that. I mean, presently, I think that would be not unrealistic assumption. Obviously, the Board review management’s recommendation on a quarterly basis as it relates to dividend payment and that’s the qualification I provide in any situation.

Trevor Turnbull

Analyst

Sure. Okay. And then the only other question I had was, you mentioned having visited all the operations and I know that COO, Paul Chawrun has also had a chance to see everything. In addition to your comment about being pleased with the teams that you have in place already is there any other first impressions that either of you could share about operations for – or opportunities per se change going forward?

Paul Wright

Analyst

Paul, hand that over to you so.

Paul Chawrun

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Trevor. I think just in general these are great assets. So it attracted me to the company in the first place. We have an excellent balance sheet. We will put these – put the optimization tests to all these assets and as well the Moly business unit has strong potential as well. We will be looking at a lot of those details. And I think Centerra is poised for excellent growth going forward. I think it’s one of the best stories out there once we get some of these current issues behind us.

Trevor Turnbull

Analyst

Yes, so – go ahead Paul.

Paul Wright

Analyst

A little bit of color as it relates to Turkey. I mean obviously, we have had some issues in Turkey. And some of those we certainly have to accept responsibility for. And I would say that the quality of the operating team now in Turkey is probably superior to what the corporation started with. Leaving without uncertain is up to the task to extract the maximum value from that investment.

Trevor Turnbull

Analyst

Okay, sounds good. That’s all I had. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Anita Soni with CIBC World Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, Paul and Paul. And Paul Wright, good to hear your voice again, I just wanted to ask – it’s, I just wanted to follow-up on the permitting for the enlarged grazing land permit, and the extension of Öksüt, overall operating license. It says it’s set to expire in January. I mean if we are looking forward into next year reasonably, considering that we are in November now, should we expect that the mining would resume in January, or will it take more time for these permits?

Paul Wright

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Permits, it’s a bit asking how long is this piece of string. I mean we have our applications in for our permits. We understand that they are progressing through the system as we would expect. We can’t project accurately when we are going to receive those permits. We do not have a heightened level of concern about the outcome. And certainly, the pasture land permit would allow us to accelerate waste removal in parts of AI parts. And we would advance with those prior to the initial bleaching operations which are dependent upon the completion and approval of the of the new EIA.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And then I just wanted to follow-up. In the last disclosure, there was some disclosure in Q2, about I think there were a number of individuals in the mercury room that had had tested for higher levels of mercury. Can we get a follow up on that? I didn’t see anything in this MD&A.

Paul Wright

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Well, there is nothing further to comment in that regard Anita.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Alright. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dalton Baretto with Canaccord. Please proceed with your question.

Dalton Baretto

Analyst · Canaccord. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks and good morning guys. I wanted to just ask about strategy and how you are potential new CEO? But I mean, when I look at the pipeline, you have got combat, which is a high copper component, as I talk about the Moly is that – all of that seems completely off-strategy to me. And I am just wondering, where do you Paul Wright, see this company going forward? And what kind of attributes and background are you looking for as new CEO? And will you be prepared to pull the trigger on any strategic mandates ahead of having someone in the chair? Thank you.

Paul Wright

Analyst · Canaccord. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I mean there is a number of different questions, not all of which I think I am probably the appropriate person to answer. I mean I am an interim CEO, the process to identify and secure a new CEO is probably a four-month to six-month period of time. My focus is really on stabilizing the operation and ensuring that we have an appropriate platform that’s on strategy in terms of allowing the new CEO to grow a very successful business. And I certainly see that as the opportunity as it relates to any type of possible transaction. I mean I can’t say that that’s a high priority at this stage, but nor would I completely preclude it, because you are never going to determine when a possibility may turn up. That might make some – a lot of sense. But I think it’s highly unlikely given that as I have said, I am an interim CEO.

Dalton Baretto

Analyst · Canaccord. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Thank you for that color, Paul. And then maybe switching to the operation, particularly permit on Öksüt, so, presumably, the EIA review is going to take a little bit of time into the New Year. The operating permit expires in January. Even if you get the enhanced grazing permits ahead of time, can you actually start doing anything if your operating permit expired, and does your operating permit remain contingent on the EIA, are they…?

Paul Wright

Analyst · Canaccord. Please proceed with your question.

The operating permits or the renewal of the operating permits is a separate item. And we would anticipate that to be obtained in advance of the existing operating permit expiring. And with that at hand and the pasture land, we would continue with our normal mining operations limited to sort of mining prior to the granting of the EIA, and the ability to restore.

Dalton Baretto

Analyst · Canaccord. Please proceed with your question.

Right, that’s all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian MacArthur with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Brian MacArthur

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Hi. Good morning and thank you for taking my question. I would just like to follow-up a little bit more in the Moly strategy. And a couple of questions following up on Dalton, would you go ahead and proceed with that a new CEO on that strategy if you decided to reopen the Thompson Creek Mine? And I guess my second question is, what needs to be done there? And my third question is, I think Sojitz, but one time had a partnership and had claim on the ore or whatever. Can you just go through with a little more color about why it would be doing that, as opposed to, historically sort of talked about selling that operation – those operations.

Paul Wright

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Look I couldn’t deal with the front part of those questions. And Darren, perhaps you can deal with the last element, because I am not quite familiar with Sojitz or these sorts of people. Look, I mean we are in the phase of really pulling together the information and generating additional information, identifying what additional work needs to be done as it relates to technical studies, to put ourselves in a position where we can critically assess the options that are available to us. Win the Moly business, particularly in the context of what we have seen as strengthening Moly prices. It is not – this is not an imminent decision making process. And certainly it would not be – it would be unlikely that we will be making any significant decisions on the Moly business prior to a new CEO, who would obviously take ownership of those decisions. So, that’s the decision most likely made by my successor. But I think it behooves us at this point, to have a more fulsome understanding of what indeed are the options for the business and whether or not ultimately the company decides to push forward the ways off.

Darren Millman

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

And just to clarify a bunch of this. The Thompson Creek Mine is 100% owned by Centerra, which is the mine under review. The Endako mine is the 75% owned by Centerra and 25% owned by Endako and that isn’t being progressed to the same extent as the Thompson Creek Mine.

Brian MacArthur

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Lawson Winder with Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Lawson Winder

Analyst · Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Hello. Good morning and thank you for the update. I first wanted to ask about the sustaining CapEx guidance, which was reiterated for 2022. With the implication being a pretty substantial step up in the fourth quarter, would be helpful if you could just walk through some of the items that are driving that spend. Thank you.

Darren Millman

Analyst · Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Hi. So, it’s Darren here. I think we – if you look at the guidance, you actually know that it’s we do note that it’s going to be at the lower end. So, it’s, there is nothing significant individually on that. But we do expect to be more on the lower end. If you look at our disclosure in the outlook comparative between year-to-date and going forward, you will note that specific guidance, but there is nothing of real substance in there.

Lawson Winder

Analyst · Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Even the low end is higher, but I guess what you are saying is just a mix of things?

Darren Millman

Analyst · Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

No. There is nothing one – there is no individual, Öksüt flagged as no. We did the big shutdown in Q3 for Mount Milligan. So, we are not expecting any large shutdowns in that quarter. So, yes, it’s just really just business as usual would sort of call it catch up from the 2022 guidance.

Lawson Winder

Analyst · Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. I also wanted to ask about the Mount Milligan costs. So, we are expecting an update on ‘23, 2025 operating costs when you release your guidance in January. Could you give us an idea of where cost per ton was in Q3, particularly, both on the mining side and on the milling side? And then sort of where you are seeing inflationary pressures and where there might be offsets, for example, like with the Canadian dollar? Thanks.

Darren Millman

Analyst · Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. I will take that. Yes. So, I will just go through the numbers. So, the mining was $202 per ton mine, plant $552 a ton and admin was $237 a ton. And then in terms of comparing that to the LOM, that LOM was done earlier in the year. And as with everybody in the industry, we have seen cost increases on fuel, plant consumables, supplier parts, tires, in the range of I would say about 5% to 20%. So, we will take that into consideration when we issue our 3-year cost guidance early in the New Year.

Lawson Winder

Analyst · Bank of America Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. That’s very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to you. Please continue with your presentation or closing remarks. End of Q&A:

Paul Wright

Analyst

With that, I would like to thank everyone for joining us on the call today. There will be no further comments. Thank you very much.