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Carlyle Secured Lending, Inc. (CGBD)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 5, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by and welcome to the Carlyle Secured Lending Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Nishil Mehta, Head of Shareholder Relations. Please go ahead.

Nishil Mehta

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to Carlyle Secured Lending's conference call to discuss the earnings result for the second quarter 2024 and the proposed merger of CGBD with Carlyle Secured Lending III. I'm joined by Justin Plouffe, our Chief Executive Officer; and Tom Hennigan, our Chief Financial Officer. This morning, we issued a press release with our presentation of our results, which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website. In addition to our quarterly earnings press release, we issued a release announcing that Carlyle Secured Lending has entered into a merger agreement with Carlyle Secured Lending III. Throughout today's call, Carlyle Secured Lending will be referred to as CGBD and Carlyle Secured Lending III will be referred to as CSL III. CGBD has posted a presentation outlining the transaction on the Investor Relations section of its website, which has also been filed with the SEC and which will be referenced on today's call. Following our remarks today, we will hold a question-and-answer session for analysts and institutional investors. This call is being webcast and a replay will be available on our website. Any forward-looking statements made today do not guarantee future performance and any undue reliance should not be placed on them. Today's conference call may include forward-looking statements reflecting our views with respect to, among other things, the timing or likelihood of the closing of the proposed merger, the expected synergies associated with the proposed merger, the ability to realize the anticipated benefits of the proposed merger and our future operating results and financial performance. These statements are based on current management expectations and involve inherent risks and uncertainties, including those identified in the Risk Factors section of our 10-K and our 10-Q which will be filed for the quarter following the market closed today. These risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated. CGBD assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements at any time. Please note that any additional information regarding the proposed merger and the solicitation of proxies in connection with matters requiring CGBD stockholder approval will be available in the proxy statement and prospectus that CGBD intends to file with the SEC in the coming weeks. With that, I'll turn the call over to Justin, CGBD's Chief Executive Officer.

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Thanks Nishil, good morning everyone. Thank you all for joining. I'm Justin Plough, the CEO of the Carlyle BDCs and Deputy CIO of the global credit at Carlyle. On today's call, I will give an overview of our second quarter 2024 results and discuss our proposed merger between CGBD and CSL III, including the ways in which Carlyle will support the transaction to make it especially compelling for CGBD shareholders. I'll finish with a few comments on the quarter's investment activity and portfolio positioning before handing the call over to our CFO, Tom Hennigan. In the second quarter, our financial performance continued to benefit from the higher base rate environment, with some headwinds from spread compression on new deals. Both of these trends were largely consistent with the broader direct lending market. During the quarter, we generated net investment income of $0.51 per share, which represents an annualized yield of more than 12% based on our 630 [ph] math. Our Board of Directors declared a total third quarter dividend of $0.47 per share consisting of our base dividend of $0.40 plus $0.07 supplemental dividend. Our net asset value as of June 30 was $16.95 per share, down $0.12, or approximately 0.7% from March 31 because of unrealized depreciation from some of our watch list names. Following another strong quarter, we are excited to announce that CGBD has entered into a merger agreement to acquire Carlyle Secured Lending III. We believe this transaction will deliver a number of strategic benefits, including an increase in scale and liquidity, elimination of the preferred stock held by Carlyle, a reduction in costs and an increase in operational efficiencies and accretion to both earnings and NAV per share. Now, I'd like to dive a little bit deeper into each attribute that this merger brings. First,…

Thomas Hennigan

Analyst

Thank you, Justin. Today I'll begin with an overview of the terms and structure of the proposed merger. I'll then discuss second quarter financial results and portfolio performance before concluding with detail on our balance sheet positioning. First, I want to point all of our shareholders to the additional materials we've posted to CGBD's Investor Relations website. I'll note we expect to file a proxy and registration statement in the upcoming weeks to begin the process of soliciting merger approval from CGBD shareholders. As Justin previewed, we're excited to announce we've entered into an agreement with CSL II to merge in a stock for stock transaction, with a floating exchange rate that has the potential to be accretive to shareholders. To reiterate Carlyle's support for the merger, it has agreed to exchange its existing convertible preferred shares for common stock, which will occur shortly before close of the proposed merger. Based on the current conversion price of $8.98 per share this crystallizes accretion to both NAV per share and quarterly net investment income per share on a fully diluted basis. Carlyle will be subject to a two-year tiered lockup following the exchange, reinforcing Carlyle's continued long-term commitment to CGBD. An affiliate of Carlyle has also agreed to bear up to $5 million in transaction fees and expenses in certain circumstances, which is expected to mitigate any potential dilution from merger expenses for shareholders. The transaction has been structured with a floating exchange rate construct that enables the potential for additional NAV per share accretion at close. In our merger presentation, Slide 16 outlines three potential scenarios and how they would impact CGBD. As you'll see on the slide, if CGBD is trading at or below one times NAV per share, the merger will be conducted on a NAV for NAV…

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Thanks Tom. Before we move to Q&A, I want to reemphasize the compelling merger proposal for CGPD. This merger is between two entities that are wholly aligned. We're adding meaningful scale without increasing risk through combining with a known Carlyle managed portfolio. The consistency of our investment approach between the two BDCs positions us for a smooth integration process. We expect the transaction will be significantly beneficial to shareholders with accretion to both NII and NAV per share. Market demand for private credit remains high. We continue to focus on sourcing transactions with significant equity cushions, conservative leverage levels and attractive spreads relative to market levels. With attractive new originations, a stable portfolio and low levels of nonaccruals, CGBD shareholders are benefiting from the continued execution of our strategy. As always, we remain committed to delivering a resilient, stable cash flow stream to our investors through consistent income and solid credit performance. I'd like to now hand the call over to the operator to take your questions. Thank you.

Q - Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Hey, thank you. Good morning, everyone. How are you? On the merger I think it's 25 expected close. Does that mean you're anticipating like an extended sort of outreach campaign? And can you remind us of the shareholder base profile of Carlyle III? Thanks.

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Sure. So we do have to get shareholder vote from CGBD shareholders. So that is a legal process and that's part of the reason why it will take a bit of time. The CSL III shareholders do not have a vote here because they've sort of signed up for this when they initially invested in that fund. So there shouldn't be too much of a delay on that end of things. The CSL III shareholder base are people that Carlyle plays to, but there's not significant concentration, but again, without a vote, we wouldn't expect that to impact the merger process at all.

Thomas Hennigan

Analyst

And Finn we'd expect, although it's a very compelling transaction for CGBD shareholders, it always just takes so much time to gather up such a diverse base of investors for any of these votes. So we'd anticipate the process to take normal courses as other BDC mergers.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful, thanks. And I guess, Justin, I thought I'd ask, looking at the screen today and this week if you have any views on how the current volatility we're in might impact the bank's positioning to compete on sponsored finance transactions if it's too early to tell or if you think they would be still in a strong position to lean in or whatnot.

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Yes, certainly early to tell how this all plays out in the second half of the year, but we've been focused for a long time now on making sure the credit quality of the portfolio is excellent, because we've seen the pressure on spreads. So we feel very well positioned if we're heading into a more volatile environment and it does stand to reason, Finn, that in more volatile environments, our capital becomes more valuable to borrowers. So I think we're well positioned if it does turn out to be a volatile second half of the year, but we'll have to see.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay, one final, if I may, on if there's any, based on the transaction exchange ratio at close, that's obviously into the future, but if the incentive fee will account for merger accretion.

Thomas Hennigan

Analyst

If the incentive fee will account for merger accretion? Sorry, I'm not sure I quite follow the question.

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Yes, that's due to the, maybe better for Tom, based on where the stock is, there might be a, I don't know, I think, I can't even explain it too well, but it's very common in a BDC merger due to the accounting and that will elevate or reduce, depending on where Carlyle trades, when it presumably goes NAV for NAV. And that could change the GAAP revenue and NOI. So, like will you accrue, sorry, go ahead.

Thomas Hennigan

Analyst

Yes because we wouldn't expect any impact from the merger math on our incentive fees.

Finian O'Shea

Analyst

Okay, thanks so much. That's all from me.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And one moment as we move on to our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of Melissa Wedel with JP Morgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Melissa Wedel

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions today. I wanted to talk about the merger and combining the portfolios. I understand that's a couple quarters out, but at a high level, would you view the smaller portfolio, that the loans in that portfolio as being brought onto CGBD's balance sheet or would those be appropriate to put into the credit fund?

Thomas Hennigan

Analyst

Hey, Melissa, it's Tom. There's substantial overlap between the two funds in terms of the borrowers. In fact, almost every single position at CSL III is also held at CGBD obviously varying levels. So we'd anticipate looking at keeping in place our current facilities and allocating the loans primarily to our existing credit facilities. And potentially based on some of the lower spread transactions, potentially allocating those we're thinking as good investments down the road for the JV. So that we'd be looking at, based on the investment profile, the yield profile is spreading them across the vehicle. But I think for the most part, though, the yield profile is in line with the BDC, is that most of those we'd anticipate would be held directly by the BDC.

Melissa Wedel

Analyst

Okay. And then can you remind us when you think about the credit fund and sort of the runway there, how much, I guess that's the question. How much runway is there to grow that JV? I assume that's another avenue where you would look to explore NAV or I'm sorry, NII accretion?

Thomas Hennigan

Analyst

Look, I think currently we're probably looking to maintain the JV level. Certainly we're always looking at the best ways to improve our ROE. Right now, I think we're looking to maintain the JV size and dividends coming from those JVs.

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Not a huge growth.

Melissa Wedel

Analyst

Got it. Final question from me, just around the fee structure, we've seen a number of these transactions before. And I think as we've seen portfolios shift increasingly, firstly, sometimes we've seen managers make adjustments to the fee structure. Just curious if that's something that's been a topic of discussion with the Board. Thank you.

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Yes. We don't anticipate changing our fee structure as part of the merger. We think our fees are in line with market, given the performance that we've had. But I do want to emphasize Carlyle is paying all transaction expenses and we're getting out of our preferred shares at NAV, which avoids a something like a 5% to 8% potential dilution to CGPD shareholders. So those are really the two areas where Carlyle is contributing to the transaction.

Melissa Wedel

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] I'm showing no further questions at this time, and I would like to hand the conference back over to Justin Plouffe for closing remarks.

Justin Plouffe

Analyst

Well, thank you, everyone. We really appreciate your joining. Sure we'll be speaking to you in the future. That will conclude today's call.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.