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Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Fri, Jun 21, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Canopy Growth Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. On June 20, 2019, after the close of the financial markets, Canopy Growth issued a news release announcing its financial results for the fourth quarter and fiscal year ended March 31, 2019. This news release is available on Canopy Growth's website and on SEDAR. On this call this morning, we have Bruce Linton, Canopy Growth's Founder, Chairman and co-Chief Executive Officer; and Mike Lee, Canopy Growth's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. [Operator Instructions]. Certain matters discussed in today's conference call or answers that may be given to questions could constitute forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated. Risk factors that could affect results are detailed in the company's annual information form and other public filings that are made available on SEDAR. During this conference call, Canopy Growth will refer to supplemental non-GAAP measure, adjusted EBITDA. These measure does not have any standardized meeting prescribed by IFRS. Adjusted EBITDA is defined in the press release issued yesterday as well as in this period's management's discussion and analysis document that will be filed on SEDAR. Please note that all financial information is provided in Canadian dollars unless otherwise specified. Following prepared remarks by Mr. Linton and Mr. Lee, the company will conduct a question-and-answer session, during which questions will be taken from analysts. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn our meeting over to Bruce Linton. Mr. Linton, please go ahead.

Bruce Linton

Analyst

Great. Thank you, and welcome, Mike, to your first call. So the platform was busy last year. We were expanding globally, delivering multiple market platforms from rec to medical, investing quite a lot of capital. And the net effect is revenues on a 12-month basis were $226 million, a 190% year-over-year growth. We saw gross revenue in Canada with the rec market $140 million. About 24,000 kilograms in the fiscal year compared to 8,700 kilograms of prior fiscal year, and we shipped over 5 million units in the fiscal year compared to about 1 million in the prior year. So we have a very active business on that level, but really what was it about? Well, today, we sit with IP of 90 patents that were either acquired or issued and it's our view that intellectual property, the containment of novel outcomes, creating unique brands based on science is going to be the future and we're heavily invested. So there is a portfolio growing day-on-day. We announced approximately two weeks ago, 60 trials that are either ongoing or near term ready to get going. And what you're going to see is a shift globally from a discussion of medical marijuana to cannabinoid therapies. Our positioning of Spectrum is about that, our acquisition of C3 expands that. It's a major theme. And so we expect that while year-on-year, if you look at the total number of patients we had in the medical sales, it's taken a bit of a step back, which was anticipated. We've gone to book 70,000 patients, but that's in part when you migrate products such as LBS, could also be known as Leafs By Snoop, and DNA products from the medical platform to the recreational platform. We've just readjusted our portfolio, and we expect to see growth…

Mike Lee

Analyst

Thank you, Bruce. Good morning, everybody. First allow me to introduce myself. I joined Canopy Growth Corporation in February of this year as Executive Vice President Finance, working with Tim Saunders. My background is largely in the beverage alcohol industry, having spent over 20 years in this space, 15 of that was with E. & J. Gallo Winery, working in a finance capacity for most of my tenure, notably spending my time partnering with various commercial teams across the business. That is where I really cut my teeth as a commercial finance leader. After Gallo, I went on to work for PepsiCo, where I was Division CFO in their beverage business, spending most of my time on revenue management, pricing architecture and operations finance, again partnering closely with the business throughout. A few years later, I joined Constellation Brands and was quickly promoted to Division CFO of Wine & Spirits where I spent most of my time. As for my pathway leading to Canopy, I would say, I became very enamored with this company back in 2017 when Constellation made their first investment in Canopy. And when the second larger investment was made in 2018, I was offered the opportunity to join the Canopy team. Flash forward a few months and I'm now working as acting CFO, awaiting my security clearance from Health Canada, which we expect to receive in the near future. Before I move to my review of fiscal '19 results, I would like to formally thank Tim Saunders for his support during the last several months. Tim has been committed to my success from the day we met, and I appreciate everything that he has done to ensure a smooth transition. Tim is really a class act, and I'm thrilled that he will continue to serve Canopy…

Bruce Linton

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. Excellent summary. So where we are now midway through near the end of Q1, we continue to look at the world quite optimistically. We're seeing indications of change in so many countries, and we feel we're the best positioned company to pursue them. So please, if you have questions, queue them in, and we look forward to responding.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from Chris Carey with Bank of America.

Christopher Carey

Analyst

So, I just wanted to start with a bigger picture question, then I have a follow-up on near-term dynamics. So on the big picture, just, I guess, taking a step back on the results this quarter, clearly Canopy continues to invest globally to establish these long-term competitive advantages, and I think that makes a lot of sense, especially given peers don't really have anywhere near the same capability given your scale and balance sheet, right? But I guess as you continue to enter new markets, you will, of course, need to keep investing. So in that context, I think maybe it would be helpful to get your perspective on this natural tension between investing into the long term versus the need to have some of the near-term discipline? And how do you think that strategy impacts your financial model over the next 3 to 5 years?

Bruce Linton

Analyst

Yes. So it's a good question. So part of the reason Mike put out as one of his reporting prior years is to be able to give some segmented reporting because we do need to be able to show you exhibit A, which is going to be Canada. How is it running on medical, how is it doing on rec, what does it looks like on a total business, back out some of the costs, which aren't really directly related to cannabis income, medical programs, expenses of that nature. And then as we go into other geographies, we mentioned, I think, in our press release earlier this week about -- on approaching Colombia where we have a partner who will be producing our gel caps because as we get more IP, we can move up the value chain, use other parties' manufacturing capabilities and really put together our differentiated outcomes in the research. Maybe the final part is with signal to the market that we're quite interested in some form of instrument, which will allow us to take and rotate the invested capital in Canada, call it $1 billion plus and turn that into some form of an instrument, which, under the right scenario, should also become a scheduled type instrument so that if we got a federal permission in a foreign geography for another license that we'd actually be able to take that asset, put it on, have the cash rotate back in. And we've advanced quite a few of the models on that. I don't think it's something you'll see turned up instantly, but there is quite a lot of interest in how we could actually get that capital back into rotation versus stranded.

Christopher Carey

Analyst

Okay. And then just on the follow-up. So your ability to kind of hit this $1 billion annualized run rate revenue by your fiscal Q4 2020. How much of that is dependent on the launch of new product forms in Canada? And maybe how much will you need from revenues outside of Canada to help you get to that number?

Bruce Linton

Analyst

Yes. So that is a figure that was put out by Constellation, which we certainly feel is achievable. It's principally a domestic-driven opportunity. It doesn't -- our growth in revenue plans, we haven't built a material sum coming out of, say, hemp-derived products in America. We're looking at Canada as a market that principally drives the biggest number top line growth over the next three quarters. And what we see in the market, the biggest risk and uncertainty we have was, one, is the launch date, so we now know that and then our ongoing continuous risk assessment is approvals by the regulator. So, so long as Health Canada continues to approve the platform necessary to produce the products, we think we have the technology and the platform created. But with those things together, we think there is a substantial business in Canada with a little bit support from other geographies.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Vivien Azer with Cowen.

Vivien Azer

Analyst · Cowen.

So, Mike, my first question to you, please. I really appreciate the detail on the gross margin. Given the commentary around the shift in kind of revenue into 2Q and 3Q based on what you cultivated in 1Q and the target to get that north of 40%. Can you offer any kind of incremental color on the cadence of that over the course of the year? It sounds to me that our expectation should be reset materially lower for the first quarter as we kind of push out gross margin improvement. If you comment on that, that would be great.

Mike Lee

Analyst · Cowen.

Yes. Thanks for the question, Vivien. Yes. So, there has been a lot of activity going on at our big anchor facilities, BC Tweed as well as Mirabel and we are on the tail end of the renovation, retrofitting of those facilities. And given the grow time, it takes time to kind of claw your way back. So we would expect that as we get into Q3 to Q4, that you start to see those normalized margins that we've been talking about for some time now. There will be a bit of a headwind, albeit relatively smaller than the headwind we've seen on the grow houses, but as the bottling capabilities are stood up, there will be some fixed costs that we will hit ahead of production, ahead of revenue, but all things being equal, I think it's going to be a much more modest impact than what we've experienced in the last two quarters with the grow houses. So we remain very optimistic that we'll get to the 40% by Q4. And as we start to see the benefits of the new platforms, in my view, that's where we get the runway to that high 40s that we've talked about for quite some time.

Vivien Azer

Analyst · Cowen.

Perfect. That's really helpful. And then for both of you, Bruce and Mike, this is a follow-up to that. Can you comment on how that like influences your view on the EBITDA and getting to positive EBITDA? Obviously, the story has changed pretty materially in the 2.5 years that, Bruce, I've been covering the stock. But there was a time when you guys were talking about getting to EBITDA positive once you had adult-use revenues hitting the P&L, now I fully appreciate that with the incremental capital that you've gotten from Constellation Brands, you've made some adjustments to your investment priorities that are impacting EBITDA, but the magnitude of the increase in your EBITDA loss has really dwarfed anything we're seeing from your peers and you guys are not the only one trying to scale up those domestically and internationally. So any help on kind of the glide path to EBITDA profitability would be great?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Cowen.

Yes. And you're right, it does dwarf our peers and it all comes back to the war chest that we talk about which we think is going to turn into a competitive advantage over time as we're building this global scale. But I'll bring it back to Canada. Our focus in the near term is to demonstrate Canada performs as a stand-alone model that we can take around the world. And in FY '21, we believe we're on a path to show EBITDA positive performance. And with the announcements, with the new regulations coming out with the platforms and the capabilities that we stood up from a production perspective, we're confident that as we get into fiscal '21, you'll start to see that positive EBITDA performance for Canada as a stand-alone business.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Peter Sklar with BMO Capital Markets.

Peter Sklar

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Mike, there was a number you -- a harvest number you threw out there 34,000 kilograms. I didn't quiet catch that in the pace of your commentary. Can you just talk a little bit about what that represents and when that will sell-through?

Mike Lee

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Sure. S,o 34,000 kilograms is our current forecast for Q1 harvest, and this is really driven by the fit out of all of our grow houses. Recall, if you go back and look at the last couple of quarters of harvest, I think, in Q2, we had about 15,000 kilograms. In Q3, we harvested around 7,500 kilograms. Q4, 14,400 kilograms. You sort of get a sense of the depth that incurred as we were putting those facilities through the retrofitting. So, 34,000 kilograms is, I would say, the beginning of what I would consider to be our new normal of harvest capacity. And I would also say that our operations teams are committed to progressing that number even further, and that's going back to my remarks of transitioning from establishing the facilities and getting everything up and running to really focusing on optimization. We've got a lot of runway in front of us to further optimize these facilities. And going back to Vivien's question, and earlier questions around gross margin and EBITDA, getting these facilities optimize is going to be a critical value lever for driving that bottom line. Because as the throughput increases, your fixed costs are relatively fixed, you might have some marginal costs on that higher throughput with some additional hourly labor. But as you guys know, these facilities are highly fixed cost in nature. So that's really where the power of that leverage is going to come through.

Bruce Linton

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

And, Peter, serving the modeling of it, typically the way I look at is like 2/3 of the sales in the next quarter come from the harvest in the prior quarter. So when you see that number, you can start to work it into -- if we got the right product mix and the stores are opening up, that harvest number from this quarter is a big key factor for the next quarter.

Peter Sklar

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Okay. So really just putting it altogether it's this -- now that you've achieved this higher level of harvest, that's why you are optimistic about the margin improvement in Q3 and Q4, is that correct?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Yes. It's utilization of the platform. So as the building fills, we get the yield off the building. And as the product formats become more sophisticated, you sell a lot less. When you measure everything in milligrams, you sell less cannabis with more adjacent ingredients to create more value and you get to put it into the form factors of vapes to beverages to chocolates. That mix, combined with our platform utilization turns into a great outcome. And why it is like is, like what we've observed in the last five years the creation of opportunity that I don't think we are ever going to see for anybody on these phone calls in your life time. This is a once-in-a-lifetime window. And so this model that we've developed and how we're deploying it globally with tunning it in Canada. I think, we are very well positioned and the capitalization we have allow us to have multiple years of advantage if we spend properly now which we are. And so that's kind of a path we're driving.

Peter Sklar

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

Okay. And my other question is, I believe, your recreational sales, if you look in kilograms not revenues, but kilograms, declined Q4 versus Q3. And is that because like you just didn't have the production in Q4 or rather is just that the retail flow -- like the retail demand isn't out there because Ontario and Alberta just haven't been building their store base?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

That's one of those questions is a bit of both we're talking that -- it's a couple of percent down, but it's really been about product mix that we had. Because this is -- second quarter we had about -- two quarters or three quarters that get ready for the first launch quarter, and we had to keep supplying through so that whole half product and why the prior question the available product for Q3 matters or Q2 matters. But obviously when Alberta needed to pause in their opinion the additional licensing of stores and Ontario got going in April, that kind of made the platform static. What we're seeing is a lot more stores opening up obviously in Alberta. There is quite a bit of discussion and rumor about will Ontario do some more sooner. So the channel is growing, and we are pretty upbeat that, that channel is going to have more and more interesting products and it's going to a big channel by the time we get to Q3, Q4. So a little bit of a blend.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Oliver Rowe with Scotia Capital.

Oliver Rowe

Analyst · Scotia Capital.

So your International sales this quarter were pretty low, and I know that, that business is a bit lumpy by nature. But it seems apparent that we haven't hit the inflection point for growth in these markets yet. Many countries prescribe cannabis as a last resort and only for very serious indications and a bit relaxing to see regulatory change. So from your seat, I'm just wondering how quickly you see that change happening and sort of what we could expect to see in the next couple of years in your international segment?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Scotia Capital.

Yes. So it's a bit textured and that the U.K. is still at that stage where they are making extremely challenging for patients typically very ill young children to gain access and then it is extremely costly. And so what they are effectively doing is fighting in the media with sick children and that obviously won't work for a long time, so it's starts to open up. If you move across the opportunity, you will get to Germany as the most available. And frankly in the period we're reviewing, it was a function of not having the product to export, because you just can't say I'm going to send this to Germany. It needs to be actually the product, which has been fined and registered and we didn't have sufficient. We think that we do now and that we're in a position where that should grow because the demand is there. We also have places like Denmark coming online, which means the export potential will be from a Denmark production facility into, say, Germany or the Czech Republic. And so our transiting of cannabis will become a bit more textured, not just Canadian and I expect to see that over the next quarter or so. But really the markets seem to be growing. It really has been our ability to keep up with the right product mix and now we're further working to have things like gel caps and oils approved as exportable products. Not done yet, but it has been an aggressive project to get there. So I think, you might see the mix of products improve not just the available product.

Oliver Rowe

Analyst · Scotia Capital.

That make sense. I just have a follow-up. I know you just mentioned there that you have to get certain products availability for export. I know the export markets are offering you about 2x better price than the recreational market. So why are you not just focusing on getting products through that channel to realize those prices?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Scotia Capital.

Yes. It was a bit of a juggling act. I would say that the regulators probably were little bit more supportive recently of approving things from Canada over our ability to grow and target that amount. It has been improved because of the platforms items we described. It was a small window where we're probably juggling eight balls, and I would say that we didn't get to sort of utilize everything the way you would optimize for cash, but I think we're pretty much there right now. On a receiving side in Germany, it's an interesting thing and that we have a capacity constrained to some extent where what we can receive has to sell-through before we can put more and we don't have like a 10-ton vault there. We have a limited capacity vault. So we're always adjusting the choke point, but I think the choke point will be more that than it would be product mix or available product.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Graeme Kreindler with Eight Capital.

Graeme Kreindler

Analyst · Eight Capital.

I just wanted to go back quickly to the 40% gross margin target you are expecting by the fourth quarter optimistic to reaching that. You had some competitors mentioned on recent calls. The expectation that there could be some significant downward pricing pressure on the flower side of the market with more capacity coming online, especially from smaller producers. So I was just wondering if that target there takes into consideration, any headwinds on the flower side considering or probably remain a significant part of the market near to medium term?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Yes. It does. Our expectation of how much and how quickly it comes onstream, I think, might be informed by our experience. I would also say that there is a very different -- big difference between growing some bug quality versus producing an API extract kind of level and getting things into a form factor that actually rely on a bottling plant or vape technologies we've created or the chocolate factory area that's licensed. So I think if you're going to be measuring things on grams, there maybe some pressure and I don't think it's in the time period you've described on grams. But when you start measuring things in milligrams, I think, the milligram formatted product is medical direct are actually going to have a very solid opportunity for margin increase.

Graeme Kreindler

Analyst · Eight Capital.

Okay. And a follow up on the subject of higher-margin products and to follow-up from the last set of questions around the export. The press release mentioned a pretty lengthy process to get export approval. So I was just wondering if the regulator has started to streamline any of those processes? Or they are taking input from you or other producers in order to help that go a bit faster?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Eight Capital.

I think the regulator's objective is to make sure that every patient in Canada has full access to product and the provinces have what's necessary. And then exports have to go where the receiving country requests and Canada issues an export. I think it's becoming smoother, but it isn't -- I don't think it's never going to be something in our short-term window, maybe the next several years where it's automatic. We'll see where we get with CBD. But if you start including the ingredient THC, it does become a complicated process. Really what you can do now as we have scale production, the quantities, which we can put through. It doesn't matter if you're doing 250 kilograms or 25 kilograms, essentially the overhead rates are both the same. And so I think we're finding ways to just put a little bigger volume through each approval.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Doug Miehm with RBC Capital Markets.

Douglas Miehm

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

Couple of questions. Just with respect to the rollout later this year. How would you see that the provinces are set up relative to what we saw last year in terms of the value-add products and the capabilities in that regard?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

Good question. And in a word much better, right. Like last year at this time, we were still trying to talk about what's the start date. Now we're talking about whether or not they wired their buildings to have fridge plug. So for example, when you go to New Brunswick, those stores and the provinces are actually put in the capital so that they've contemplated the ability to have chilled fridges. They have more storage capacity. When you look across the private sector ones I think they react quite quickly. So I wouldn't say it's even, but I would think that there is probably half the provinces in which we'll be able to launch quite quickly with a full range of products and the others which will be catching up based on the fact that they could be making a lot more rate-of-return on their buildings if they had all the products in. And so not uniform but way better than where we were. And I think the products that they are talking about are critical to be in a store. If you look at the e-commerce rate for liquor sales, it's not super high. But if we have a beverage on a store floor and say, Nova Scotia liquor, which I mentioned it many times sort of I was down there in the last few months. You essentially walk in the front door of the liquor store and then at the back of the store in sort of a semi-separate areas where they sell the cannabis. If you pick up a bottle of wine and walk through to the cash at the back, you can pick cannabis and pay for both at the same spot. And so we're quite optimistic that some of those platforms are going to be able to show substitution effect in accelerated sales. But overall, I think, half or more are going to be quite quick to launch.

Douglas Miehm

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

Okay. And then the other question I had is just with respect to the testing process, which, I think, you briefly mentioned. Are the hurdles in your mind different as it relates to the value-add products and edibles et cetera versus what we've seen before? And do you believe there are any different implications for that process versus what we saw last year?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets.

Yes. So I think what you were still waiting to see what the final criteria in testing process will be, but it's narrowing in. And that's -- we are frankly -- I think, when they're looking at this, it's going to be part of what we've observed in the U.S., where we tested a great range of CBD products and about 80% of them were more than 10% in that respect. So I think the regulators are going to be looking very, very carefully that you can actually confirm both the cannabis dosage and the quality of the product that you're mixing with whether it's food-type product or food-testing platform. It certainly doesn't feel like it's going to be a stretch to deliver, but it doesn't nail down yet as a final step.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Michael Lavery with Piper Jaffray.

Michael Lavery

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

I just wanted to touch on a couple of your newer platforms coming in and understand some of the timing there. First for the U.S. for the CBD initiatives and hemp products [indiscernible] by the end of fiscal '20. Can you just give us a sense of how that builds in and may be why it's not something sooner? And then second on the second wave of products coming in Canada. Obviously there is some regulatory issues around all the timing. But how much should we expect pipeline fill in calendar fourth quarter even if there is mid-December date there really sort of the green light. How should we think about how that looks in terms of you getting product out of the door?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

Yes. So there is a certain amount of stuff that I'm going to keep a little bit close to the vest and that we think there is a competitive advantage in what we're doing. But take New York for example, in Kirkwood, we've assembled the property and the facility. We're going to go in. We have issued the RFPs. We are focusing on local trades and contractors and engineers so that we can actually implement the platform that we already know how to implement. So that site will then become a processing CBD. We've contracted hemp in several states across the U.S. for production. We've defined all of our brand launch lines, think health and wellness principally. And we have found in our finding a variety of contract manufacturers who are putting the form factors together for us where we want to launch so as we don't want to have skis run out. We don't want to have anybody have a fear of what's in the product and we want certainty that it's controlled. So even meetings with the USDA, what's the permissible spray? When did they test it? How do we make sure that the product when it's harvested from the field doesn't contain things that downstream are going to become viewed negatively in a state. And so what we're doing is assembling a scale reliable platform that is not going to leave any big box or C-store operators with an embarrassment, but rather an ongoing sellable SKU. And so it takes a little bit of time to do that at scale. Typically we try to push and deliver things a little earlier than our schedule rather than promise and fail. So, I think, we're operating in that mode right now.

Michael Lavery

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

And on the Canadian products coming in later this year?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Piper Jaffray.

So on those, it feels like we're landing finally where we want to be, right. Like we've been talking about beverages for 3 or 4 years. I think if you look back in the decks we've been using, we had a tweed and tonic with a clear bottle and a cap on it for a long time. We have a chocolate factory operating in what used to be a chocolate factory that became a marijuana factory, it has both now. We have done a lot of work on brands, form factors and launch. So I think you're going to like what we have for everything from how vape products work and how our margin model has been thought through on that through every other form factor. We are, I think, well ahead in terms of the facility, the space, the license for cannabis to be present. All we need is the final agreement that we can launch and typically that's going to be 60 days from the time of their exit, so mid-December. The principal challenge in 4Q is mid-December also has a late December event which can be Christmas or Hanukkah depending on who you are. And so there is a shipping window that's going to be limited and how much can get into stores. So our logistics will contemplate how may be we can direct ship to stores that can take it versus warehouses that have the inventory and then crank it up in queue for us calendar Q1. But those are sort of the things that we're already mapping out and here is only June.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Brett Hundley with Seaport Global.

Brett Hundley

Analyst · Seaport Global.

If I could just package two quick questions together. The first is, if the U.S. Senate follows health passage of the spending bill for the forward year, would your lawyers consider that a triggering event for the Acreage deal? And then separately, New York State has been really wet this spring. Do you have a sense for how CBD or hemp plant yields are impacted during late plantings? And can you share with us kind of what the situation is with regards to your company or I guess, partner farms?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Seaport Global.

To the questions, one, I would say is actually -- so recent news, we're still trying to figure out exactly where that came, right. Like it was yesterday's vote, I think the one you're referencing with regard to the DOJ budgets?

Brett Hundley

Analyst · Seaport Global.

That's exactly correct.

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Seaport Global.

So that was last night's reading and discussion and calls around 9:00 at night because it does need to be supported by the Senate, but I don't know that, that makes it federally permissible. I think what it makes is federally unenforceable. And so we will see what we will get, but I think it's just a progression towards where we wish to be. But this is one of the things that we are monitoring extremely closely and we have people living in all the right ZIP codes so that they can be on that for us. As far as the second one, we're still getting the green light that the harvest will occur. Yes, it has been ridiculously east coast rainy. We do have hemp that we acquired from prior years that is into processing step, and we do have contracts in other geographies. Obviously, New York wants to see product produced in New York, say, processed in New York and branded to CBD in New York. But we certainly don't have any flags to throw yet at this time.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Ryan Macdonell with GMP Securities.

Ryan Macdonell

Analyst · GMP Securities.

Mike, welcome to the conference call. So my first one is maybe for you, Mike. You talked about how global and ex-Canada is really starting to be a large portion of your spend. Could you share with us in the quarter approximately what proportion of SG&A was attributed to outside of Canadian operations? Was it on the order 20% as much as 50%?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · GMP Securities.

I'll let Mike see if he can dig around and get you a specific break. I don't think we haven't covered off. But I'll link it back to an earlier question on things like exports. And I mentioned how it gets textured. Someone was asking, is the export process from Canada to Germany accelerating? It is what it is, but may be in a quarter or two, our export process for Germany in some proportion relies on the Denmark authority. And so we do have fully competent resources in Europe to handle that kind of transaction where we grow it, we certify it, we execute the legal framework, paperwork and move it where it doesn't rely unnecessarily on a function at head office. So, Mike, I don't know if you have any more breakdown.

Mike Lee

Analyst · GMP Securities.

Yes. I'd say, when you think about our infrastructure outside of Canada, our SG&A, I put at the 10% to 15% range, but clearly an area of investment. The difficult thing in unpacking that is we are adding infrastructure in Canada to support a build-out of the global business for things like shared services, legal, finance, et cetera. But in the coming months and quarters, you will see more investment going into the U.S., going into Latin America, going into Europe as we build out those functions.

Ryan Macdonell

Analyst · GMP Securities.

Excellent. Thank you very much for that color there. And maybe kind of following up on that, the thing in international, with regards to the U.S. you talked about the rollout of CBD products there. Maybe can you share with us what sort of categories you find are interesting? And also any comments you have around ingestible CBD products in south of the border?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · GMP Securities.

So turn a little bit sideways, what we really like our states to step in so we don't have to wait for FDA to govern in the dosage. You'll see many products out there that are full spectrum hemp and, let's say, 25 milligrams where they won't say CBD and they don't get into the details. So what we like is in New York state, we think we're going to have everything from the potential of a beverage to certainly skincare products and moving along that could in fact become ingestibles because at the state level, we expect them to regulate and they appear right if they regulate before FDA so long as we don't make health claims. And so I think you're going to find 5 or 6 states are going to govern very well that will allow companies like Canopy to put up infrastructure. Process to finish goods that can be topical for ingestible, drinkable as well and have the dosage on them. And so long as we do that, we will be in compliance with the state license and not offset with the FDA. So we don't think we're stuck in the topical swim lane only, but we think it's good category.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Owen Bennett with Jeffries.

Owen Bennett

Analyst · Jeffries.

First question, I just wanted to come back to the U.S. hemp CBD. So you spoke about the $1 billion sales run rate at the end of the year being largely Canadian driven. So U.S. hemp CBD obviously offers possible upside to that should it come online in 4Q. So just curious in terms of how much of a contribution can we expect U.S. hemp CBD to make in its first full year even in a very conservative scenario?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Jeffries.

So in the first part of your question, you are correct that we are not leaning on revenue or sales from that category in order to actually see a high-growth company. We're investing a few $100 million into U.S. processing assets that are great for hemp. But they'll also be functional and I think scalable for cannabis should that become permissible activity. As far as the forward look, CBD doesn't resolve everything that's on the planet, So that perspective that you just say the letter CBD and everything is good. So whatever that really of the top number is, we don't buy into that. But I have seen analyst reports that this is substantial healthcare product set, and we think with what we're doing we should end up with a leading market share. And I don't want to lean to a number, but we're building for scale and trust. And if you're running a big box chain, a corner chain, you do not want another supplier, who is going to embarrass you.

Owen Bennett

Analyst · Jeffries.

And then just a follow up, could you please give some more details on the usual weather event on over one-time activities impact the margins in the quarter? And how confident are you these one-time activities won't need to be repeated as we move through the year and obviously trying to get that 40%?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Jeffries.

Yes. So couple of things there and Mike will chime in some. When you're retrofitting and secure pricing green houses you're not operating, so if you get a heavy snow in a sudden basis, it can actually become a problem, it did. We had to heat cranked up and things done, but when the greenhouses are full and operating their design but the snow load doesn't become a topic because it actually continuously melts off, check that box good there. As far as the other ones, Mike, I don't know if you want to comment. There is some specific things related to leases and such, which, I would say, are functions of startup and recreational when you're trying to figure out who, what, where, when fast and have options.

Mike Lee

Analyst · Jeffries.

That's right, Bruce. I don't think anything is material in nature, but I would just say just as we're working through that retrofit to challenge to grow and operate at the same time that you're retrofitting, so we just had a number of small unusual activities occur during the quarter. Nothing systemic, nothing to be concerned about.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from John Zamparo with CIBC.

Krishna Ruthnum

Analyst · CIBC.

This is actually Krishna Ruthnum on for John. I just wanted to follow up with regards to the pet CBD market, something that you mentioned in the past. Just to see whether you have an update on when products will be available and whether that will be in this calendar year?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · CIBC.

So we're looking at a couple of launch locations certainly for the ones we wish to launch in the U.S. We want to make sure that they are safe for the animal and valuable for the owner who pays for them. With that criteria and brands like Martha Stewart associated, I would say, our cautious window for launch is as late as Q1 calendar, Q4 fiscal. There maybe other products in Canada that could come on sooner. And again what we're trying to do is make sure that what we launch is easily supported by very large industrial players in the pet food space. So that we have brands and we have colleagues who could play with us that would see what we are doing as the best way and that appears to be the path we're on. It's been a -- we're dealing with how do we interact with the veterinary and pet carriers in both Health Canada and the FDA. We're trying to follow those kind of rules and platforms, and it feels like we're well down the path. But I wouldn't want to tell you that it's calendar Q4, it's more likely calendar Q1 and Q4 fiscal for the pets.

Krishna Ruthnum

Analyst · CIBC.

And I just wanted to follow up a little bit further on just your thoughts on the initial sort of rules around derivative products. And then whether you feel you have a competitive advantage relative to the other LPs in Canada?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · CIBC.

The rules, they work. There is going to be some unusual aspects like people are accustomed to an ABV equivalent so that when you have a volume of something associated with the strength, I think there is going to be a better room for improvement there. Because of when they're coming out, I think, you're going to see cans of products rolling off sooner than glass bottle products or clear bottle products just because of timing on those consumables. So I think the launch will come up. Part of the way that we end up with an advantage is we've been using of our balance sheet and our visibility and views. And so we began building our bottling plant, for example, before there was a certainty that you're going to have a drinkable product, which is why it's going to be ready-to-make beverages on the launch. If you have, what we think a really well thought of beverages with great brands. And if they are on the shelf and available and people try them first and like them the best. This can become kind of a lifetime category and so we feel very good about it. I did mention earlier in the call, we have zones for vape filling and choco making that are already licensed for cannabis, they exist and have been constructive. And they're built through a food-grade standard that meets Health Canada criteria for controls. So I think being ready, having products early and having research is going to give us a serious shot at being globally relevant and what others do, I guess, that's what they'll do.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Bill Papanastasiou with Cannacord.

Bill Papanastasiou

Analyst · Cannacord.

I just had a question regards to the top line. It looks like core cannabis revenues were down quarter-over-quarter, however your direct-to-consumer sales were slightly up. I was wondering how should we look at this line, given the Ontario market coming online? And maybe you can share some color on the magnitude of it in Q1 2020?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Cannacord.

Yes. I think these things aren't instant on/off. We expected the top line for cannabis has an opportunity to start climbing as the stores are there and they go, but it is not like a rocketship. The rocketship is as more and more stores open, more and more medical opportunities come as more and more proof arrives. And as we get into Q3 fiscal for us in Q4. So it's just -- this feels like it's now on to a bit like it's picking up momentum business and building up margin business, but it's not flip, switch and they both go to the top.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners.

Aaron Grey

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

So I just have one quick one on the medical market. So you mentioned before that the patient count was down to about 70,000 from 83,000 and talked about the transition in terms of brands, and I think you also mentioned some supply chain issues. So could you just kind of talk about your confidence in kind of bouncing back there? And then also what you're kind of seeing overall in the medical market and whether or not those kind of patients are being serviced just given the allocation of product that you're seeing within yourselves and other kind of peers with the medical -- with the [indiscernible] marketing online?

Bruce Linton

Analyst · Alliance Global Partners.

Good question. I feel actually quite confident that we're going to see growth in medical. And I think it's going to be happen because we had it obviously when you move brands like Tweed and Leafs By Snoop out of your medical store and then to the rec store that will migrate 10,000-ish of our customers. But we've been putting a large push on what I would call is onboarding patients, acquisition through clinics. And in the background, we're running these clinical trials. And I think that if we start reading data that shows that works a lot of people are going to jump up. And we just take that at the high-level. And if you take our spectrum brands, so there has been a lot of push that the actual spectrum branded product is growing like it is moving up as a medically selective product. So this to me feels like do the research, do the blocking and tackling, the brand portfolio is now well established. It's going to grow is our expectation fully. Good. I think we have time -- two minutes left. If there is any others, otherwise thank you everyone for your time. This is another quarter, another year and it's only a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that we see. So we're certainly not tracking on the Amazon model, but you see the value of investing when people transform their behaviors and we're at the front of that. So thank you for it, and look forward to next quarter.

Operator

Operator

This concludes Canopy Growth's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2019 and Financial Results Conference Call. A replay of this conference call will be available until September 21, 2019 and can be accessed following the instructions provided in the company's press release issued earlier today. Thank you for attending today's call, and enjoy the rest of your day. Goodbye.