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Cognyte Software Ltd. (CGNT)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Dec 11, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Cognite Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automatic message advising your hand is raised. Please note that today's conference may be recorded. I will now hand the conference over to your speaker host, Dean Ridlon, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Dean Ridlon

Management

Thank you, Operator. Hello, everyone. I am Dean Ridlon, Cognite's Head of Investor Relations. Thank you for joining us today. I am here with Elad Sharon, Cognite's CEO, and David Abadi, Cognite's CFO. Before getting started, I would like to mention that accompanying our call today is a presentation. If you would like to view these slides in real-time during the call, please visit the Investors section of our website at cognite.com. Click on upcoming events, then the webcast link for today's conference call. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that certain matters discussed on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, and other provisions of the federal securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance. Actual results could differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these forward-looking statements. The forward-looking statements are made as of the date of this call and except as required by law, Cognite assumes no obligation to update or revise them. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward statements. For a more detailed discussion of how these and other risks and uncertainties could cause Cognite's actual results to differ materially from those indicated in these forward-looking statements, please see our annual report on Form 20-F for the fiscal year ended January 31, 2024, and other filings we make with the SEC. The financial measures discussed today include non-GAAP measures. We believe investors focus on non-GAAP financial measures in comparing results between periods and among our peer companies that publish similar non-GAAP measures. Please see today's presentation slides, our earnings release, and the investor section of our website at cognite.com, for a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP measures. Non-GAAP financial information should not be considered in isolation from, as a substitute for, or superior to GAAP financial information but is included because management believes it provides meaningful information about the financial performance of our business and is useful to investors for informational and comparative purposes. The non-GAAP financial measures that the company uses have limitations and may differ from those used by other companies. Now I would like to turn the call over to Elad.

Elad Sharon

Management

Thank you, Dean. Welcome everyone to our third quarter conference call. This was another quarter of solid execution for Cognite. We continue to deliver on our business plan, advance our growth initiatives, and drive proof of stability. The market for our solutions remains robust and is evolving as anticipated, driving predictable and sustainable growth. Our execution resulted in another quarter of double-digit revenue growth with adjusted EBITDA expanding more rapidly than revenue. Our year-to-date performance combined with solid visibility and sustained demand reinforces our confidence in the business. As a result, we are pleased to again raise our full-year outlook. During Q3, we grew revenue by 12% year-over-year to $89 million. Non-GAAP gross profit increased by 12% year-over-year. We generated approximately $7 million of positive adjusted EBITDA for the quarter, representing 42% year-over-year growth, highlighting the strength of our financial model. We believe our momentum remains strong, fueled by significant deal wins during the quarter. These results and deal wins validate the strength of our technology, the differentiated value we provide to our customers, and the substantial opportunities that we believe lie ahead. A key part of our growth strategy is deepening and broadening engagements with our existing customers. We achieved this by increasing the number of groups and the number of users leveraging our solutions and by offering additional capabilities to address emerging threats and evolving priorities. One of the trends that is driving expansions is enabling our customers to handle the rapidly growing volume and variety of data they need to manage. An example is the explosion in mobile data driven by the transition to 5G, which has significantly increased the complexity and scale of their challenges. According to a report recently issued by Ericsson, mobile data traffic is growing at an annual rate exceeding 20%. The surge…

Elad Sharon

Management

He also noted that agencies work to generate deep knowledge about the environment and operational landscape, transforming information into actionable outcomes. He emphasized two things: excelling in addressing present challenges while proactively positioning themselves for future success with the right tools and technology. These are the exact principles that we use to align our focus in product development: advanced tools, actionable insights, and future readiness. At the summit, we also hosted ten external speakers, including former heads of agencies, counterterrorism experts, and representatives from global think tanks, both reinforcing our position as a top leader and fostering discussions on the evolving threat landscape. The key insight from the summit underscores how the world's challenges are becoming more complex, and the lines between different types of crime are increasingly blurred. Criminals and terrorists are adopting each other's tactics, creating diversified and globalized networks that evade traditional defenses. Bad actors exploit advanced technologies like encrypted communications, dark web networks, and cryptocurrency to evade detection. Increasingly, they are leveraging AI to obscure their operations, creating unprecedented challenges for security agencies tasked with protecting citizens and combating crime. This quarter, I want to highlight how our technology addresses the critical challenges posed by organized crime. Agencies face the task of identifying members of criminal organizations and mapping their networks, including leadership structures, funding sources, and intentions. Despite their efforts to conceal activities, these groups inevitably leave behind valuable digital footprints. However, as the volume and diversity of digital information grow exponentially, extracting actionable insights becomes increasingly complex. This is where leveraging advanced technology is no longer optional; it is essential. With the right solutions like ours, agencies can efficiently analyze vast amounts of structured and unstructured data, uncover hidden connections, and accelerate investigations to achieve successful outcomes. To illustrate, a few months ago in…

David Abadi

Management

Thank you, Elad, and hello, everyone. We continue to deliver results that underscore our disciplined execution and strategic focus. Q3 revenue grew by 12.1% year-over-year and was $89 million. This quarter, software revenue was $30 million, slightly up year-over-year with more subscription revenue than we had in the same quarter last year. Software service revenue was $45.3 million, an increase of $3.9 million over last year. Total software revenue, which includes software and software services, was $75.3 million, an increase of $3.7 million compared to last year, representing about 85% of total revenue. It is noteworthy that approximately 40% of total software revenue growth came from incremental subscription revenue, underscoring the strength of our strong recurring revenue base. Recurring revenue remains a key strength and was $46.9 million or 53% of total revenue in Q3 compared to $42 million in the same period last year. Recurring revenue, comprised primarily of support contracts and some subscription offerings, is the cornerstone of our business. It provides strong visibility and supports long-term growth. Professional services revenue was $13.7 million, an increase of $5.9 million over last year. Professional services as a percentage of revenue in Q3 was high due to the timing of revenue recognition. We expect that its share on an annual basis will be lower and blend at about 13% of total revenue. Later on this call, I will provide additional insight into our different revenue streams and our FY2025 revenue mix outlook. Non-GAAP gross margin for the quarter was 70.1%. Our total non-GAAP software gross margin improved to 80.3% versus 78.9% last year, a year-over-year improvement of 140 basis points. Our non-GAAP professional services cost margin was 14.4% versus negative 9.7% last year. Our strong gross margin highlights the value and competitive differentiation of our solutions, as well as the…

David Abadi

Management

Before I turn to our improved FY2025 outlook, I want to provide additional insight into our revenue streams. We generate revenue from three main streams. Software revenue is primarily perpetual licenses and appliances with some term licenses. Software services, which is largely support contracts and to a lesser extent cloud-based SaaS subscription offerings. And professional services and other revenue, reflecting mainly deployment, development, hardware selling, and training. All revenue streams can fluctuate from quarter to quarter mainly due to the timing of revenue recognition related to customer readiness and percentage of completion accounting. In addition, the signing of new or renewed support or subscription contracts may impact revenue recognition timing. We manage and evaluate the business by focusing on total software revenue, which combines software and software services. This holistic approach reflects the value we deliver through our technology and the services that support and enhance its adoption. This metric better reflects sales performance as it captures the full revenue contribution from a customer. It includes perpetual licenses, appliances, and subscriptions as well as support contracts. On an annual basis, we expect total software revenue to continue to be a growth driver. Professional services revenue, which we target to be in the low teens as a percentage of total revenue, is crucial. These services help customers extract greater value from our solutions and enable them to personalize more quickly, ultimately driving additional opportunities with those customers. It is important to point out that professional services revenue varies quarter to quarter due to several factors, including the timing and the scale of deployments. These fluctuations are natural, and we look at the overall share of professional services revenue on an annual basis to ensure it aligns with our strategic and financial goals. Turning to guidance. Based on our strong year-to-date performance…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our first question is coming from the line of Mike Cikos with Needham and Company. Your line is now open.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Great. Thank you for taking the questions, guys, and congrats on the quarter as well. One of the first questions is about the large customer announcements that came through the quarter. You announced some $10 million and $20 million agreements with some of these customers. Can you talk about the profile of these customers? If a customer is signing a $10 or $20 million deal with you guys, do the features or products that they are looking at from Cognite differ materially from other customers or not necessarily?

Elad Sharon

Management

Yeah. Thanks, Mike. So, actually, the complexity customers are facing is similar across the market. If you look at the demand drivers, they are related to the complexity of finding the bad guys, which is related to them being able to better analyze data that is growing in volume and diversity. It is more difficult now to put their hands on them. So customers have to do two things. The first one is to expand in terms of capacity to allow more users to use the solution, which means more licenses, and also to increase capacity in terms of data volumes and diversity. They also need to improve on functionality, which means that if you increase data sources, and you have to uncover more hidden insights, you also need to modernize the solution with more analytics, including AI-driven capabilities. By doing that, you can uncover even more insights, some of which are predictive, allowing you not just to investigate the past but to find anomalies that are going into the future and intentions and prevent and neutralize threats. This is something that is relevant for many customers, not only for those in national security, which sometimes are larger than law enforcement, for example. So in certain segments, it is more relevant. It also depends on the capacity of the data customers have. We do not expect these kinds of large deals to come every quarter, but we do expect the demand drivers to continue intensively, with more and more customers upgrading either in expansion or in functionality or both. This is something that we expect also in the future.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Thanks for that, Elad. I just wanted to build on that last point, starting to touch on macro there. It sounds like the secular demand drivers remain intact. It is not accelerating from where we stand today. But what are you hearing from customers as far as budgets? Are these budgets significantly expanding from where we stand today, or are there incremental dollars flowing into this area from other pockets? Can you help us think about that budget item?

Elad Sharon

Management

Yeah. Sure, Mike. Maybe I will give you a wider view on what we see in the market. It will give you data points and also our judgment on how we see the market. First of all, we see very healthy demand from existing and new customers. If you look at the new logo, year-to-date, we added about thirty new customers compared to twenty-nine in full fiscal 2024. So we do see more new logos this year already. We see that more customers are budgeting with higher budgets, and this is reflected in the larger upgrades and expansions that we see. We also discussed the intensive demand drivers that I mentioned earlier. We continuously engage with customers, and what we hear is that the challenges are growing and increasing, and they are asking for budgets. We do see that the momentum is healthy, and we see tailwinds in terms of demand. Another data point that can help you understand is the Cognite Intelligence Summit we discussed earlier in the call and also in the press release. This is not an industry general event. This is an event for Cognite only, and you can imagine that 300 attendees from almost 70 countries, about 70 countries, came to listen to what we have to say, to see the solutions, to see the innovation, to see the AI-driven new solutions that we have. So it means that the demand is there. Customers are willing to listen and to get more insights into what is new. They are willing to put orders for expansions and upgrades. New logos are coming to us. Overall, we feel very good about the market health. If you look overall, the demand drivers combined with our advanced technology and high value, and what we hear from the customers that we engage with frequently in general and also in the summit that we recently had, and the recent large deals, all of it together gives us very high confidence that we are positioned for future growth.

Mike Cikos

Analyst

Terrific. Thank you very much, guys.

Elad Sharon

Management

Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question is coming from the line of Peter Levine with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Peter Levine

Analyst

Great. Thank you for taking my question. Elad, you mentioned in your prepared remarks about mobile data traffic becoming top of mind, meaning the need for advanced data analytics. I know there is a lot you cannot say around your product, but maybe talk about some of the R&D initiatives from your summit. What are your customers asking? What are you building? I will start with that one.

Elad Sharon

Management

Yeah, sure. So I mentioned 5G as a demand driver because, actually, what our customers are doing is trying to convert certain activities of the adversaries into insights. Adversaries have to move, transfer money, and communicate between themselves, and all of it is actually digital data. So 5G, in this respect, is increasing the bandwidth of data. Customers have to deal with vast amounts of data that are increasing. Ericsson shared with us in a report that the data is growing by more than 20% year-over-year. This is a significant change for our customers because when the bandwidth is growing, it means that they have to deal with more data. It means that new applications will be launched, and now with the bandwidth increasing, new applications will come. They can communicate in different and more varied ways. They can hide better. For our customers, this is a challenge. So in order for them to be able to address it, first of all, they need to expand the capacity of the solutions to get more data. The second thing is they have to improve the AI capabilities and analytics in order to uncover more hidden insights out of the same datasets that they have. By doing that, they can prioritize, predict, and later on neutralize threats before they unfold. So 5G is one example of how the demand drivers are driving demand for expansions and functionality upgrades and analytics.

Peter Levine

Analyst

David, you mentioned you did not give a guide for fiscal 2026 next year. You mentioned meaningful growth, faster than operating expenses. Call it, I think operating expense growth in Q3 here was 7%. Can you just provide some guardrails around how you are thinking about next year? Could we see double-digit growth? Are you on track to do that? Can you walk us through how you are thinking about next year, obviously factoring in the environment, but would love to know if you can give us a little bit more guidance on how you are thinking about next year.

David Abadi

Management

Thank you, Peter. If you look at our performance, you can see that in the last quarter, quarter over quarter, we were able to drive more and more profitability. If you look at the year-to-date result, we grew our top line by 11.5%, and our gross profit grew by 14% on a nine-month basis. The OpEx only grew by 4.5%. So you can see that there is a lot of leverage. We started the year with setting guidance, and then we increased incremental $9 million to the top line, while $7 million out of the $9 million went to profitability. So the leverage exists in the model. Looking ahead, we are very well positioned for the future. We have very strong CRPO and total RPO, which are giving us the confidence that we can grow in the future. We believe that we will be able to grow faster than revenue and gross profit in profitability, meaning that the revenue and gross profit will grow at a much faster pace than OpEx, and that will drive strong results and better profitability also next year.

Peter Levine

Analyst

And sorry if I can squeeze one last one in. Last quarter, you talked a lot about expanding to the US, go-to-market. Just give us an update on how that kind of trended in the quarter and then maybe plans for calendar 2025 in terms of further evolving or expanding your reach here in the US? Thank you.

Elad Sharon

Management

Yeah, sure. First of all, we continue to believe that the North American market presents a good opportunity for us. Obviously, there are many potential customers, and it is a wealthy market. So we are focusing on expanding our presence there. We execute our plan and make progress. I can tell you that I continue visiting existing and potential customers in the US, and I get very, very good feedback on our technology. Some of the customers have already become reference customers. For some customers, we have already received follow-on orders, which is another testimonial that it is not just a honeymoon. They do not just come to us for the first deal, but they are happy with what they get. They generate lots of value compared to the competition. For that reason, they come to us and expand, and I mentioned it earlier in the call. I can also tell you that a few weeks ago, I visited another law enforcement agency, a very significant one in the US, and I got very good feedback also on their significant success story using our technology. Given the execution so far, the recent wins we see, and the customers' feedback that we get, I do expect that the North American business will continue to grow in fiscal 2026 and beyond. It will become a significant business for Cognite.

Peter Levine

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. I am showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Dean for any closing remarks.

Dean Ridlon

Management

Thank you, Operator, and thank you everyone for joining us on today's call. Elad, David, and I will be in New York in January to meet with investors and hope to see some of you then. In the meantime, please feel free to reach out to me should you have any questions, and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Thank you all for joining us.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.