Welcome to the Cherry Hill Mortgage Investment Corporation Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I’d now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Garrett Edson. Mr. Edson, you may begin.

I’d like to thank you for joining us today for Cherry Hill Mortgage Investment Corporation’s third quarter 2021 conference call. In addition to this call, we have filed a press release that was distributed earlier this afternoon and posted to the Investor Relations section of our website at www.chmireit.com. On today’s call, management’s prepared remarks and answers to your questions may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from those discussed today. Examples of forward-looking statements include those related to interest income, financial guidance, IRRs, future expected cash flows as well as prepayment and recapture rates, delinquencies and non-GAAP financial measures such as core or EAD and comprehensive income. Forward-looking statements represent management’s current estimates, and Cherry Hill assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements in the future. We encourage listeners to review the more detailed discussions related to these forward-looking statements contained in the company’s filings with the SEC and the definitions contained in the financial presentations available on the company’s website. Today’s conference call is hosted by Jay Lown, President and CEO; Julian Evans, Chief Investment Officer; and…

Thanks, Garrett, and welcome to today’s call. The third quarter of 2021 saw a rebounding economy, but concerns remain about inflation and significant supply chain issues. We continue to actively position our portfolio total rising rate environment, while maintaining a strong balance sheet. However, while rates ended the quarter slightly higher than they were on June 30, we saw significant volatility into a quarter. The 10-year dropped to a low of 1.17% in August and remain low until the tail end of the quarter. Given the absolute movement and rates into a quarter origination volumes remain high and prepayment speeds while slightly lower quarter-over-quarter remained elevated in both portfolios. In light of the positive economic and unemployment data year-to-date, we believe rates have now stabilized at higher levels, persistent inflationary pressures, as well as pending fiscal aid also should support this thesis over the near-term. We expect this will be positive for our portfolio, as we have positioned it for a steeper higher rate environment. Beginning with this quarter, we re-titled core earnings as earnings available for distribution or EAD. We believe this title is more indicative of how investors use this metric. In the third quarter, we generated EAD of $0.25 after giving effect to a onetime regulatory settlement payment by Aurora, our MSR holder of equivalent to approximately $0.03 per share. Over the past 18 months or so states have become more aggressive in attempting to license MSR holders. Although, Aurora holds MSRs, it does not directly service the underlying loans or have any contact with the borrowers. All of these activities – licensed or exempt from licensing in the applicable states. Notwithstanding the lack of any direct servicing activity by Aurora or impact on borrowers states are aggressively asserting the need for licenses and assessing penalties. This…

Thank you, Jay. In the third quarter, the U.S. economy continued to rebound nicely, thanks to sizable consumer demand with most pandemic protocols relaxed. At the same time, inflation was clearly beginning to wait on many Americans with inflation metrics that haven’t been seen in decades. At first, interest rates did not rise in concert with inflation, and in fact, materially declined into early August. However, by the end of the quarter, we started to see inflation have an impact as the U.S. tenure ended the quarter slightly higher than where it stood on June 30. Although, interest rates have stabilized at these higher interest rate levels for now, the portfolio was still impacted by the lower interest rates we saw for the vast majority of the quarter, as pre-payment speeds remained elevated. Looking forward, we continue to believe interest rates will progress higher over time and we will remain opportunistic as we continue to pursue investments, while closely monitoring inflation and supply chain issues that are impacting the global economy. At quarter end, MSRs had UPB of approximately $21 billion and a market value of approximately $211 million. During the quarter, we purchased $720 million UPB of new MSRs through our flow programs. At the end of the third quarter, the MSR portfolio represented approximately 43% of our equity capital and approximately 13% of our investible assets excluding cash. Meanwhile, our RMBS portfolio accounting for approximately 39% of our equity. As a percentage of investible assets, RMBS represented approximately 87%, excluding cash at quarter end. Our MSR portfolio averaged approximately 22% net CPR for the third quarter down from approximately 27% net CPR in the previous quarter, driven by gradually slower prepayment speeds, as well as a steady recapture rate. We saw mortgage speeds declined further as rates began…

Thank you, Julian. Our GAAP net loss applicable to common stockholders for the third quarter was $6.2 million, or $0.36 per weighted average share outstanding during the quarter, while comprehensive loss attributable to common stockholders, which includes the mark-to-market of our held for sale RMBS was $4.6 million or $0.27 per share. Our earnings available for distribution attributable to common stockholders were $4.2 million or $0.25 per share after giving effect to the one-time payment equating to approximately $0.03 per share that Jay referenced earlier. Our book value per common share as of September 30 was $9.07 compared to a book value per common share of $9.63 as of June 30. We use a variety of derivative instruments to mitigate the effects of increases in interest rates on a portion of our future repurchase borrowings. At the end of the third quarter, we held interest rate swaps, swaptions, TBAs, a short position on treasury futures and options on treasury futures. All of which had a combined notional amount of $2 billion. You can see more details with respect to our hedging strategy and our 10-Q as well as in our third quarter presentation. For GAAP purposes, we have not elected to apply hedge accounting for our interest rate derivatives. And as a result, we record the change in estimated fair value as a component of the net gain or loss on the interest rate derivatives. Operating expenses were $3.7 million for the quarter. On September 17, our Board of Directors declared a dividend of $0.27 per common share for the third quarter of 2021, which was paid in cash on October 26. We also declared a dividend of $0.5125 per share on our 8.2% Series A cumulative redeemable preferred stock and a dividend of $0.515625 on our 8.25% Series B fixed-to-floating rate cumulative redeemable preferred stock, both of which were paid on October 15. At this time, we will open up the call for questions. Operator?

Hello?

Hey, Henry. How are you?

Is this the Q&A session?

Yes, yes.

Yes. How are you all?

We’re great.

So the new metric is really just operating earnings minus the fair value adjustments. And that’s your – that’s what you’re thinking is the basis for paying the dividend.

EAD is really just a name change from core earnings previously. It’s the same formula as we’ve had for core earnings up to this point.

And then of course on this regulatory charge, does that mean that I don’t want to get into specific states, because they’re always listening. But there’s usually a list of like state number one, then this state number two is most aggressive on this stuff. Do they all queue up and see a money making opportunity or is this a problem with limited scope.

Yes, sure. That’s good question. So there were a handful of states that we had conversations with that were much, much, much more reasonable with respect to kind of how to be productive about the situation. And each state was different relative to, whether it was vague or clear or unclear. And we just had one state out of that group that really decided to probably to and that was the last state that we dealt with, which we settled in October currently, we don’t have any others. Can I tell you that any others will never come up? No. But we are spending an enormous amount of time trying to make sure that we’re ahead of the curve now relative to. What states are thinking? And look, this is a money conversation, I just want to emphasize that we don’t service the loans directly and don’t have any contact with borrowers. So this is about them getting fees for us being licensed and paying them annually.

Yes. I figured that part. In terms of the impact of the removal of the 50 basis points, we did see a couple of other people write down MSR is based on that. The perpetual adjustments negatively on the fair value side, how close – when do we get to a point where, you’ve written your MSRs down to the point where it unless they’re going to go away in a year, it doesn’t matter that the fair value process has kind of run itself out. And what does that look like under the current interest rate situation?

Well, so I definitely can’t speak for what the FHFA or any of the regulatory bodies will do relative to changing goalposts relative to how they think about the assets. But, broadly speaking, outside of anything that’s outside of our control, we feel as though, the asset has been and continues to be marked appropriately at fair value. And broadly speaking, the asset on a fair value basis was not necessarily “marked down” quarter-over-quarter, but the impact of that had definitely had a negative I guess, impact to the final valuation relative to how the models treat the asset with respect to lifetime speeds, et cetera.

The chart that you showed in your deck suggests that forbearance is just an evaporating problem for you all. Brian, my associates done some work and the one thing that sticks out is that delinquencies are high and foreclosures are low. If those two, correct, is that going to have an effect on your portfolio performance sometime next year. Or are foreclosures going to just kind of roll through in a very smooth and orderly fashion and not have an impact?

Let rate takeover in it for a second, but – where it is in order to be of comfort relative to how it’s impacting our portfolio. We’ve seen – relative to this whole issue and get increasingly more confident that this problem is very much behind us and that, and it’s very manageable. I also know, broadly speaking that the new Fannie Mae MSR line that we have in place has a room for servicing advances, which increases our ability to kind of manage through anything related to forbearance. And as it relates to the part of the question about the pig through the snake, Ray, if you want to just give your opinion on 2022 and beyond?

Yes. I mean I think that for the most part – most of these guys will work out through the normal means of deferral or modification. There’ll be some small portion that that does go through to liquidation, but keeping in mind that while they were on forbearance, they couldn’t be dual tracked. So the forbearance timelines would essentially start once they’ve gone through the workout and determine that they don’t qualify under a deferral or modification or some other plan that would put them back on current. So I suspect that given the state foreclosure timelines, the amount that do end up going that route won’t actually find resolution until either late 2022 or early 2023.

Our next question comes from Please go ahead, Macau.

Good evening, gentleman. Thanks for taking the question. Just a question on the book value, sequential book value drop. Could you give perhaps a little more color on that and also as it relates to the future of the DTA?

Sure. We’ll start with the DTA. Sure. So the DTA will continue to fluctuate over time as the MSRs are marked up or marked down. So as MSRs are marked up, that would create a DTL in that current period, which would eat away at the current DTA. And so over time you would expect as MSRs are written up the DTA will continue to shrink. And on the first question just help me out and restate that again, please.

Sure. Now I just wanted to get some color on what exactly drove the sequential book value. Was it 5 point – 5.5% roughly?

That’s right. And when you say sequential…

The drop in book value quarter-to-quarter.

Right. So as I mentioned in the speech, it was a combination of things over the quarter. The shape of the yield curve definitely had an impact as I mentioned in the speech, we are set up more forebear steepener relative to the yield curve relative to how these two assets one interact together and how the hedges protect us. We still believe that there is an impending rise in interest rates as a lot of the things that we mentioned in this speech come to fruition. And that may take a little longer relative to fiscal policy, et cetera, but we remain positioned for that environment and that definitely did have an impact relative to how the portfolio interacted together. I will say that the changes in the model on our analytics around your book definitely as we mentioned had an impact relative to the final fair value on the MSR portfolio relative to how the model treated the asset over the prior quarter. And what am I missing?

Some of the longer lower coupon TBA positions also hurt the portfolio as rates rows during. We hit a low obviously of 118 on the 10-year and then rose subsequently after that and that had an impact on the portfolio as well.

Yes. I would add that as I’m sure others mentioned, the MSR definitely does help against spread widening on the lower coupon TBA. But it doesn’t cover it completely – no matter what happens if you have spread widening on TBAs, I would say that our REIT that has MSRs and it will definitely fare better than your pure agency REIT, but it doesn’t cover all of that.

Got it. Thank you for that. And with that in mind, I’d ask one more, could you perhaps provide some color on where book value is now? We’re almost halfway through the quarter. Thanks.

Yes. So we don’t have the MSR evaluations and everything around that asset back in yet. So I can’t give you a partial read on that. Or I won’t give you a partial read on that. It takes us usually till about the 12th or the 15th to get everything back on the MSR portfolio. So I’d like to refrain on that one.

Sure. I understand. Thanks. Thanks a lot, guys.

No problem.

And at this time, we have no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Jay for closing remarks.

Thank you, operator. Thank you very much for joining us today for the third quarter 2021 earnings call. And we look forward to updating you early next year for fourth quarter. Have a great evening.

This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for attending.