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Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 8, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Calumet, Inc., Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Kompa, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

John Kompa

Analyst

Thank you, Anthony. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our third quarter 2024 earnings call. With me on today's call are Todd Borgmann, CEO, David Lunin, EVP and Chief Financial Officer, Bruce Fleming, EVP, Montana Renewables and Corporate Development, and Scott Obermeier, EVP Specialists. You may download the slides that accompany the remarks made on today's conference call, which can be accessed in the Investor Relations section of our website. Also, replay of this call will be available on our site within a few hours. Turning to the presentation, on Slide two, please see our cautionary statements. I'd like to remind everyone that during the call, we may provide various forward-looking statements. Please refer to our press release that was issued this morning, as well as our latest filings with the SEC, for a list of factors that may affect our actual results and cause them to differ from our expectations. As we turn to Slide three, I'll now pass the call to Todd.

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Thanks, John, and welcome to Calumet's third quarter 2024 earnings call. We've had a lot of big news recently at Calumet, as we continue to take major steps and execute on the value creation catalysts that we started to socialize earlier this year. In July of this quarter, we successfully completed the conversion of Calumet into a C-Corp, and most recently, we announced the conditional commitment of a $1.44 billion DOE loan to move forward with Montana Renewables' max-out expansion, which I'll talk more about shortly. Calumet has been, and continues to be, laser-focused on maximizing shareholder value. Let me start with reinforcing the commercial transformation journey we've been on the past few years, which has built a competitive advantage in our leading specialty products business. Even in a softer commodity environment, it's remarkable to see the new mid-cycle margins we've realized compared to historic levels, and we saw that again in the third quarter. We integrated performance brands into our one specialty strategy two years ago and are now seeing record volumes and margins in this business as well. We've talked a lot about the role of commercial excellence at Calumet, which really underpins our specialty strategy. The focus starts with the customer, and we're fortunate enough to have thousands of customers globally across numerous industries, and we work hard to partner with them in a value creation manner that earns business. We implemented data-driven best-in-class processes and modern smart technology in the past few years to make a step change in key areas such as advanced pricing, large account management, new business development, and cutting-edge logistics software that have accelerated business results. Finally, we've enacted a continuous focus on leveraging our unique integrated asset base to provide value-added optionality that will allow success across any business cycle. In…

David Lunin

Analyst

Thanks, Todd. We're very excited about the DOE loan. I also wanted to briefly comment on our other recently announced transaction, the exchange offer. We appreciate the overwhelming support of our bondholders based on the initial results. I want to reiterate we are still committed to deleveraging the business in the near term. We view this exchange as prudent capital structure management, given the near-term maturity of the 2025 notes. Now let me run through our segment results. Across our specialty business, which is comprised of both specialty products and solutions and performance brands, we continue to see a strong production volume, particularly among our more specialty product lines. Operations were solid during the third quarter, as the reliability investments we've made over the past few years allowed us to recover quickly and minimize the impact of the July weather event I mentioned on the last call. Turning to Slide seven, our specialty product segment generated $42.6 million of adjusted EBITDA during the quarter, an increase of approximately 10% compared to the prior year period. Quarterly results were driven by strong volume gains, in fact, the highest levels in some time and resilient margins across specialty products, reflecting our customer and application diversity, as well as the incremental value earned through our integrated network. Year-over-year results were hampered by a weakened commodity environment, where we saw an over $20 a barrel decline in Gulf Coast industry fuel margins. Our specialty products margins have performed well despite this decline. You can see in the chart on the bottom right, highlighting our specialty products margin, which trended upward in the third quarter and was at the upper end of the 60 to 70 per barrel range. We've recorded consistent performance during the last few quarters in specialties, despite softer fuel and asphalt…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question will come from Roger Read with Wells Fargo. You may now go ahead.

Roger Read

Analyst · Wells Fargo. You may now go ahead

There's a lot to cover here, but I think kind of where I'd like to start is the expectations for the construction and conversion process, making a, I don't know, a base case assumption that the first tranche of the DOE loan closes, into this year, start of next year, in terms of hitting your expectations for 2026 on the first expansion of SAF and then, tranche two can come for the later part. But what will be some of the key milestones we should be paying attention to? And the other thought is, if tranche one is delayed in it’s a word, what does that mean for the timeline?

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · Wells Fargo. You may now go ahead

Okay, Roger. It's Bruce. I'll start us off and see if David or Todd want to get in on this. So, the fact that we own the second reactor, we don't have the usual kind of schedule or cost uncertainties that you associate with these kind of large, long lead delivery items. So the project timeline is literally moving the reactor from Corpus to Great Falls and setting it on a foundation that we pour. We're just about done. That's all we got to do. So, we feel good about the timeline. The reactor gives us a lot more SAF yield flexibility. It doesn't immediately give us more throughput. So, that's why we're, you know, we're talking 150 million gallons of SAF for that step. And we're talking 300 for the larger program that will be more involved and take longer. So, do we need tranche one? I think Todd covered that. We've got a really modest investment here in the grand scheme of things. We can pay for that out of cash flow from operations. We expect we're not going to do that. We expect the DOE is all over this thing. But if you want to entertain hypotheticals, we can proceed a bit further on our own.

Roger Read

Analyst · Wells Fargo. You may now go ahead

Well, it's Wall Street, so every hypothetical will come into play in one way or another. Let me go that way. So, DOE loan, we've got an incoming change at the federal government level. I get this question from everybody. So, I'm just going to ask you all to address it, which is anything we should be worried about in terms of tranche one or tranche two in terms of your expectations or conversations, et cetera, with the DOE? And I'll note that I believe all four members of Congress from Montana are wearing red jackets. So, presumably, they're quite happy to see a project like this go forward in their state.

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · Wells Fargo. You may now go ahead

Are we worried about the administration change relative to the undertaking here? In a word, no. So, it's fair to keep examining that question, but let's reframe it a bit. This is the biggest farm project in the history of Montana. Remember where our feedstock comes from. Second point is that the loan program office is not the IRA legislation. And I think there's been a conflation of those two things that's not really proper. The LPO has been in the statute for 15 plus years. What we're talking about here is bipartisan ag support. And so, I think we're differentiated from something that might narrowly depend upon some chapter or other in the IRA legislation.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Jason Gabelman with TD Cowen. You may now go ahead.

Jason Gabelman

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

I was hoping you could provide a bit more color on the use of proceeds from the DOE loan. There's the outstanding at MRL. There's an intra-company loan that I believe is getting somewhat sizable and then, funding the construction of the project. So, just hoping you could maybe delineate how you expect to use proceeds from the loan.

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Hey, Jason, it's Todd. Be careful to get too far down the track here. But I think just take a step back reminding the purpose of the loan. We've been consistent in this all along. It's to do the max-out expansion and clean up the existing balance sheet. So we talked about $778 million coming in. The existing balance sheet would take about $500 million or so to clean up. The rest is available to MRL to pay for other, things that they have, which could include other expensive project financing, could include anything. MRL has that flexibility.

Jason Gabelman

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Okay. Understood. I wanted to also ask about the 45Z credit, which Treasury is yet to finalize the regulations there. So, we could be in a period next year where the market is operating without the Blender's tax credit and the producer tax credit. How do you expect renewable diesel margins to operate under that environment? And if you could help clarify, are you able to book any revenue associated with the 45Z credit before Treasury finalizes the rules?

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Hi, Jason. Bruce. I'll start us off. The whole industry is focused on this expectation that we may have delayed compliance rules. But we're a producer. We're qualified. And we're going to begin booking that receivable from January 1st. What's the expectation for the market? Well, look, if that's delayed, I don't think there's a risk that the money is later not forthcoming. There is a timing question. Remembering that this is a tax credit, we do have, I think a good secondary market. We've been approached by all kinds of organizations and institutions that would like to participate in the possible delay and basically factor that back to us. So we're not concerned that we don't collect the money. The historical response is that given this kind of uncertainty on the first of the year, what we've seen in the industry is that the biodiesel guys probably turn off about half of their production. All you've got to do is pull the data off the EIA or USDA websites to see that response to uncertainty. So when David said earlier, and I want to reinforce this, that, we took a tactical opportunity here at the end of the year to change catalysts, that's because the switchover from blenders to producers tax credit, particularly on SAF, means that you literally can't comply with either rule at the end of the calendar year. We're not the only ones that have signaled this and stopped SAF production for a couple of weeks. So that's what gave us our little window for the catalyst change. So I realized I gave you a bunch of information because I think you asked a multi-pronged question. Let me see if you want to redirect any of that.

Jason Gabelman

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

I guess just how you're able to book a receivable given there's a lack of clarity on regulations, particularly around international feedstocks.

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Well, we're not running any international feedstocks for this purpose. So the computation is not at issue. The detailed implementation rules come when they come. We can then file for the tax credit. So separate the fact that we're a qualified producer right now as we speak from filing from the tax credit, from collecting the remittance, there's a couple of things in there.

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

And I think we separate, Jason, just the technical accounting revenue recognition from what we expect to happen here, right? That could be driven by details that have yet to surface. But to Bruce's point, we're fully expecting to start applying for this, PTC [day one] [ph].

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Saumya Jain UBS. You may now go ahead.

Saumya Jain

Analyst

So what is your EBITDA per gallon margin looking like for the quarter? And what's your outlook on that? I know last time you guys had noted $0.16, if I believe.

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Yes. Hey, Samia, it's Todd. It was about the same. And that was including the $6 million kind of impact that we got from feedstock lag that we called out. And that's about another $0.15. So you kind of add those things together. And I think you're in line with the general thinking that we provided previously of kind of where we fall in the supply stack relative to industry index margins.

Saumya Jain

Analyst

Got it. So it'll be in line with last quarter then?

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Yes.

Saumya Jain

Analyst

Okay, cool. And then do you still hold the CapEx outlook of $100 million? Or has that changed for the year as well?

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

No, our range remains unchanged. We may actually come in a tad bit lower. But as of right now, we think that's still the right range to be projecting.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Gregg Brody with Bank of America. You may now go ahead.

Gregg Brody

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

A public congratulations on the last month or so.

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

Thanks, Gregg.

Gregg Brody

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

I know it's two years is a long time. Actually, I'm sure you guys know better than anyone else. You mentioned deleveraging in the near term. Can you talk about how you think about achieving that?

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

Yes. I think we're probably a bit premature to get too far into the details only because we still have an open exchange outstanding. So we want to be careful not to go too far down that path. But I guess what I'd reiterate is, the extension of the 25s into this new 26 is pretty excited about just the support we had there, 97% early adoption rate. I think the market response that we're getting from the debt side is pretty supportive and provides a lot of just confidence in what we're doing. So the whole purpose of that exchange is really just to add some optionality and flexibility with a number of balls in the air here at the same time. So I think it's just kind of a prudent path forward. But we do expect to take them out in the not-too-distant future. And, yes, I think you'll see that kind of playing out here over the next couple quarters. And we'll be able to shed more light as we move forward.

Gregg Brody

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

I appreciate that. And then just shifting gears to MRL. I know you have some -- are you going to say something, David?

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

Oh, sorry, no.

Gregg Brody

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

No, I thought I heard someone talking. Just MRL, the catalyst replacement this quarter, what should that do for volumes in terms of your throughput for the quarter? What type of utilization should we expect? And then just along the idea of volumes, you touched on, I heard two things. One, the reactors will be there in no time. And then, actually, a couple things. By 26, you would have the first phase done, but they'll start to say two years. So how should we think about the ramping of volumes there, sort of volumes in fourth quarter, and then how should we see volumes ramping as we get to phase one?

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

Sure. It's Todd. I'll take the first shot, and then let's get Bruce to kind of dive in. I think on the timing, you were mentioning first the 2026 and then kind of the reactors there. Really, what we're trying to talk to here is just the risk of the project. It's within our control. It still takes a while to move a giant reactor from the Gulf Coast up to Montana, make sure everything's safe, engineer the tie-ins, stand it up. It's just not a complex, high-risk maneuver, but it certainly still takes some time. So that's kind of the difference, probably, that you're sensing when we talk about the control we have over the project and the confidence in it, and then why does that take a year or two, right? So hopefully that bridges that gap.

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

Yes. And then on the fourth quarter volume question, it's Bruce again. Look, real rough farmer's math here. If we have a 30-day oil-to-oil production outage for the catalyst change and say that the quarter's going to be two-thirds of a quarter, you're going to be in the ballpark.

Gregg Brody

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

Great. And then I think there's one question for you going back to Montana refining. There's been some headwinds this year, and I'm curious how you see that turning around to get to what you think is a mid-cycle number, or do you think the mid-cycle's potentially changed?

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · Bank of America. You may now go ahead

Well, mid-cycle is mid-cycle, so no, we don't think that's potentially changed. Over time, there's a little bit of an upward bias. The industry follows cost-inflationary pressure up. And in terms of the local performance, we're actually pretty excited that we've got our [indiscernible] retail business lined out. We made a substantive investment there. A couple of, kind of 20 months ago, let's say. And we're really seeing that come back. The fact that 40% of a crude barrel at that refinery comes out as a super high-quality asphalt means that we focus differently than on clean product cracks. And so we've done a number of things to enhance and optimize around that 40% of the barrel. Clean cracks are going to go where they go, but, you know, in the northern tier along the Canadian border, there's a strong spring planting and fall harvesting season, and so we're much more diesel-filtered. I would at least suggest that if you want to model that part of the world, you know, pay attention to the diesel crack, not the 3-2-1 crack.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Adam Wijaya with Goldman Sachs. You may now go ahead.

Adam Wijaya

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may now go ahead

Wanted to ask my first one just on the base business, so I guess two parts to this question here. Where are we from a mid-cycle margin perspective? And then as you think about the asset portfolio, is there anything on the organic growth side that we should be mindful of? Or on the flip side, is there anything on a potential asset sale that we should be thinking about as we head into 2025 with all the announcements around MaxSAF?

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may now go ahead

Adam, let me start, and then see if we can get Scott to jump in on some of the margins. I think right now, you've seen this year has probably played out currently in outlook of slightly below mid-cycle, I'd say, particularly on the fuel side that you've seen throughout industry. Been just super proud of our commercial organization and their ability to really raise what we think of as the specialties mid-cycle level. If you went back five, six years ago, you'd see that dollar per barrel and kind of our specialty margin slide around 40, 45, and now we're seeing it pretty consistently between 60 and 70, even in a pretty soft commodity environment that we're in right now. So, it's a real testament to the team and all the work they've done over the past couple of years on that. As far as organic growth and asset sale, then let's get Scott to pile back onto that original, the margin comment. We have some organic growth opportunities outstanding that we're pretty excited about. Our first focus is deleveraging. So, I think as you see us manage our capital, we'll be allocating our capital towards deleveraging, first and foremost. Of course, we do have, low-hit, low-risk, high-return kind of optimizations. There's always a number of those that pop up every year, but I don't think there's anything that would be of note to talk about a specific big project. As we move forward and think about life after Montana Renewables partial monetization or something like that, when our balance sheet is completely solved, then, yes, we've got some really interesting organic and inorganic growth projects, and we look forward to getting to that state and focused on it clearly. I think your third part was asset sale. And, can it be part of the plan? Sure. I think an asset sale, M&A should always be part of the plan, always part of the thinking. It's not our goal to simply be a hoarder of assets. We're going to win in the long run because we compile a group of assets that work together well and are worth more in a combined system than they are as individual businesses. So I think M&A asset sales are always in the conversation. I also would say not trying to forecast that we have anything M&A or something like that to talk about, just to highlight that it's always in our thinking. And we're focused on shareholder value creation. We can sell anything that's worth more to somebody else than it is to ourselves. So that's just the way we think about it. But anyway, Scott, back to margins. Any more on how we see the world?

Scott Obermeier

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may now go ahead

Yes, Adam, let me toss out a couple quick things. So in terms of the margin, I think if we look at it in the two broader buckets, on the fuels piece, as we're all aware, right, the crack spreads have been dropping this year and are probably now falling below a little bit below mid-cycle. And we're entering the difficult, Q4 seasonality. So on the fuel side, a little bit below mid-cycle. On the specialty side, to Todd's point, certainly there's some macro pressure out there with seasonality and what's going on with the economy, some global geopolitical challenges. But we've really taken the business, the specialties products piece from a $40 barrel up to, at one point into the 80s. But we've called out that mid-cycle is probably between, somewhere between 60 and 70. Q3 came in at the high end of that mid-cycle. Q4 will probably be a little bit more at the lower end of that. But we've really step changed the margin. And just maybe one comment for me on the inorganic and the organic. I think on the organic growth piece for the specialties business, Adam, as we look at our balance sheet, we've really had to do some very, call it, low capital work, low risk, low capital, quick return, high return type of IRR. Organic investments, and it's been very successful. On the inorganic side, I think, you know, we have ideas and we talk about it. And as we continue to work on our balance sheet, I think those will come into the picture a little bit with more clarity.

Adam Wijaya

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may now go ahead

Got it. That is super helpful, color. Thanks, guys. I guess my last question is just on MRLs. And maybe we could switch gears to that. On the feedstock side of the equation, is there anything you would highlight as to how feedstock costs are trending right now? And then given Montana's strategic geographic position and putting into context the SAF expansion, what's the outlook on the feedstock side of the equation going forward? Thanks.

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may now go ahead

Hey, Adam. Bruce. So the volume outlook is we're not concerned about it. Montana Renewables sits in the middle of a really large production area for these kinds of feedstocks. There's a lot of diversity. And we're actually dynamically optimizing as those feed classes move around relative to each other. So then you come to the price. And in a way, the view that we have is all of these feeds over a reasonable short timescale are going to be arbitraged based upon their carbon intensity. So the prices will be different. But if I focus you on margin, the margin add is not as differentiated as the price. As a margin add business, we're floating on the flat price. So the secular decline for two years now in the flat price, everybody's written that down. That does show up on a lot of balance sheets. And we have talked in the past on this call about gains or losses from short-term price movements. But in the long run, we don't think that's a structural concern for the industry.

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may now go ahead

Let me pile on with just one more thought, Adam. As we think about change to PTC, our competitive advantage from location that we've obviously spent a lot of time thinking about and talking about publicly, we think that actually grows. So volatility in the near term, the whole industry is going to have to figure out how this works. And feedstock prices will have to adjust. And everybody will get used to the new system. So not trying to signal anything here for the next couple of months. But I think as we see the PTC play out, a business like Montana Renewables that is based on a core competitive advantage of really flexibility has a lot of options here that maybe some others don't. So we can sell our product into Canada, for example, that has different rules. So there's a potential of buying discounted feedstocks that maybe aren't worth as much to the normal average U.S. producer that could have standalone value to Montana Renewables. We have SAF that obviously operates in a different way when it comes to the PTC. So I think just the flexibility that we have in market products, in market geographies, our ability to take advantage of state credits and the ability to access a wide variety of different feedstocks. We should see that really play into our favor as we shift into a world that has more complexity with the PTC.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. You may now go ahead.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. You may now go ahead

With respect to this $150 million equity raise, guys, is that already underway, that process, in terms of taking care of the tranche one side of things?

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. You may now go ahead

Yes. We're not expecting, Amit, this is Todd, by the way. Thanks for the question. We're not expecting to have like an additional process for it. If you think back to some of the financing that we've already done here in the not-too-distant past, it's probably not a major coincidence that you see $150 million in one of them. So, I think we've expected that this is going to come. We've been working on this for a while and have planned accordingly. So kind of like I said a little earlier, we're not planning. We've got some questions from investors around, hey, are you going to go raise equity for this $150 million? Do you have to do a quick sale of Montana Renewables to raise this? And the answer is no. The existing investors of Montana Renewables plan to do this. Now, the second point is we always have flexibility. And we've talked about kind of monetization, partial monetization of Montana Renewables at the right time, whenever that is. So I just wanted to draw out or point out that it shouldn't be tied mentally to this first $150 million.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. You may now go ahead

Okay. Thank you for that color. Appreciate it. Can you maybe remind us, 3Q23 MR adjusted EBITDA was quite a bit higher. Was there any one-time type of benefit in that quarter that, provided those kinds of results versus --

Todd Borgmann

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. You may now go ahead

No, no. So remember, the index margins have been $2 a gallon in renewable diesel for decades, for years, until the RBO reset occurred, late in the year. So what you see in Q3 last year is really, even though we weren't running at that point in time nearly as well as we are now, and we still had some clean feet in the system and all of that, that just represents a couple months before we saw index margins kind of fall apart after the RBO. So that's all you're seeing in those Q3 numbers. And we think it represents, the earnings power of this business because that was a period where, if you remember, we weren't operating all that well and still were able to post those numbers in a more normal margin environment.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. You may now go ahead

Yes. I mean, the contrast is so, so broad that I wasn't sure whether it was just pricing or if there were any other factors. But yes, it's good to see, that the business has this level of potential for cash flows. That's all I have, guys. Thank you so much. I'll take my other questions offline. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will be a follow-up from Jason Gabelman with TD Cowen. You may now go ahead.

Jason Gabelman

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Hey, I want to ask yet another policy question. Sorry about that. Wondering what your outlook is on small refinery exemptions. If you could just remind us the litigations that are ongoing and if those impact future administration's abilities to grant those SREs.

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Hi, Jason. Bruce. So, the fact that this is a difficult subject to administer means that, we're tracking 29 lawsuits. We're not party to 29, but we're tracking them. And there have been circuit splits. Several of these things have elevated to the Supreme Court. So, I think, our view is we'll have some statesman-like solutions that kind of damp all of this down. Will that include some kind of inhibition for the small refinery exemption? No, that's going the other way. The suits that we are a party to, we are winning. And the courts are saying that the law is clear. We're entitled to these. We qualify on the merits. And we're not concerned about the future of the program.

Jason Gabelman

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

Got it. And I think some of the previously approved and then rescinded SREs were put forth to the EPA to be re-approved. I'm not sure if you're part of that group and if you are. Any expectation on timing there?

Bruce Fleming

Analyst · TD Cowen. You may now go ahead

I would not set any expectation on timing for either the legal process or the EPA. You know, our interest is in helping the EPA get these things to be technically correct, to be validly assessed. And the law requires they consult with the Department of Energy. Todd said earlier, that's an agency we've got a lot of confidence in. So we think this will play out. I'm assuming we're talking months, not years. But I don't want to have an opinion on work done by others.

Operator

Operator

This concludes your question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to John Kompa for any closing remarks.

John Kompa

Analyst

Thanks, Anthony. On behalf of the management team, I'd like to thank everyone for their time this morning and continued interest in Calumet. Have a great weekend. Thank you again very much.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.