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Commercial Metals Company (CMC)

Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Thu, Jun 17, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Hello and welcome, everyone, to the Third Quarter Fiscal 2021 Earnings Call for Commercial Metals Company. Today’s call is being recorded. After the Company’s remarks, we will have a question-and-answer session and we’ll have a few instructions at that time. I would like to remind all participants that during the course of this call, the company will make statements that provide information other than historical information and will include expectations regarding economic conditions, effects of legislation, U.S. steel import levels, U.S. construction activity, demand for finished steel products, the company’s future operations, the company’s future results of operations, financial measures and capital spending. These and other similar statements are considered forward-looking and may involve certain assumptions and speculation and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these expectations. These statements reflect the company’s beliefs based on current conditions that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, including those that are described in the Risk Factors section of the company’s latest annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. Although these statements are based on management’s current expectations and beliefs, CMC offers no assurance that these expectations or beliefs will prove to be correct, and actual results may vary materially. All statements are made only as of this date. Except as required by law, CMC does not assume any obligation to update, amend or clarify these statements in connection with future events, changes in assumptions, the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events, new information or circumstances or otherwise. Some numbers presented will be non-GAAP financial measures, and reconciliations for such numbers can be found in the company’s earnings or on the company’s website. Unless stated otherwise, all references made to year or quarter-end are references to the company’s fiscal year or fiscal quarter. And now, for opening remarks and introductions, I would now like to turn the call over to Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer of Commercial Metals Company, Ms. Barbara Smith.

Barbara Smith

Management

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining CMC’s third quarter earnings conference call. As we reported in the press release issued this morning, it was an outstanding quarter with record consolidated and segment results. And I would like to thank CMC’s 11,500 employees for their continued hard work and focused efforts on behalf of our customers and stakeholders. I’d also like to thank our customers for their continued trust and partnership with CMC during these unusual and rapidly changing market conditions. I will begin the call with brief remarks regarding our third quarter performance before offering some perspective on the current market environment. I will also provide an update on CMC’s key strategic growth initiatives. Paul Lawrence will then cover our financial results in more detail, and I will conclude the prepared remarks with a discussion of our fourth-quarter fiscal 2021 outlook, after which we will open the call to questions. Before starting my prepared remarks, I would like to thank the – I would like to direct listeners to the supplemental slides that accompany this call. The presentation can be found on CMC’s Investor Relations website. I am pleased to report that CMC’s third-quarter fiscal 2021 financial results were the best in our company’s 106-year history. Earnings from continuing operations were $130.4 million or $1.07 per diluted share on net sales of $1.8 billion. Excluding the impact of a gain on the sale of a small rail reclamation business, adjusted earnings from continuing operations were $127.1 million or $1.04 per diluted share. CMC reported core EBITDA of $230.5 million, generating an annualized return on invested capital of 18%. This level of performance underscores CMC’s enhanced earnings capability, following our multi-year strategic repositioning. Third quarter volumes were exceptionally strong in North America and Europe, and the ability of our…

Paul Lawrence

Management

Thank you, Barbara, and good morning to everyone on the call today. I am pleased to review with you the outstanding third quarter results. As Barbara noted, we reported record earnings from continuing operations of $130.4 million or $1.07 per diluted share, roughly doubled the prior year levels of $64.2 million and $0.53 per diluted share. Results this quarter include a net after-tax benefit of $3.3 million related to the sale of a small rail reclamation business. Excluding the impact of this, adjusted earnings from continuing operations were $127.1 million, or $1.04 per diluted share. Core EBITDA from continuing operations was $230.5 million for the third quarter of 2021, up 49% from the year ago period and 35% on a sequential basis. Slide 7 of the supplemental presentation illustrates the strength of CMC’s quarterly results. Both our North America and Europe segments contributed significantly to year-over-year earnings growth, while core EBITDA per ton finished steel reached a record level of $144 per ton. The third quarter marked the 9th consecutive quarter in which CMC generated annualized return on invested capital at or above 10%, which is well above our cost of capital. This translates into meaningful value created for our shareholders. Now I will review the results of our third quarter fiscal 2021. The North America segment recorded adjusted EBITDA of $207.3 million for the quarter, an all-time high compared to adjusted EBITDA of $159.4 million in the same period last year. The largest drivers of this 30% improvement were: a significant increase in margins on steel products; strong volume growth; and expanded margins on sales of raw materials and continued management of controllable cost also allowed us to fully capitalize on the robust market conditions during the quarter. These factors more than offset the impact of lower margin over…

Barbara Smith

Management

Thank you, Paul. We expect a strong finish to fiscal 2021. The summer construction season is underway and demand is robust across each of our major product lines in both North America and Europe. We anticipate margins over scrap and steel products in both segments to be consistent or up modestly compared to the third quarter. Our internal indicators such as bidding activity and backlog level support continued strength. The recent recovery of leading national construction indicators, such as the Architectural Billing Index, Dodge Momentum Index and Portland Cement Association forecast, each mirror our view. These external measures also point to good conditions into calendar year 2022. Once again, I’d like to thank all of the CMC employees for delivering an outstanding quarter of performance. Thank you and at this time, we will now open the call to questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Sathish Kasinathan with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Sathish Kasinathan

Analyst

Yes. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. My first question is on scrap. The reported scrap costs for the North American segment appear to be a bit lower than what we had modeled based on what we see on Platts of CRU. So, are you seeing any more than normal lag in scrap costs and when do you think this will normalize?

Paul Lawrence

Management

Good morning, Sathish. I appreciate you asking the question. With respect to our scrap inventory, we turn our scrap very quickly. And so, there is not a lot of lag in our scrap expenses in comparison to the indexes. I think the key driver of the difference between what we consume and many of the indexes is really our vertical integrated network of operations and the benefit that we have from two areas. One is of our own scrap assets and the second is the grade of obsolete scrap that we use to produce rebar in comparison to more of the volatility that has been seen on the prime grades of scrap.

Sathish Kasinathan

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for the color. My second question is on capital allocation. Can you talk about your priorities, particularly the potential for additional investments in Europe, as well as your updated view on buybacks given what we are seeing with some of your peers?

Barbara Smith

Management

Yes. Maybe, I’ll address this, and if Paul wants to add any additional color, I think our view on capital allocation is it remains consistent. We have, as you know and as we’ve indicated a number of very attractively returning investment projects, I mentioned the Danieli 3 line, which is coming online. We have the investment in AZ2 that we’ll prioritize some of our capital allocation, but the strong balance sheet that Paul outlined gives us enormous flexibility for organic growth, inorganic growth, and we continue to evaluate the dividend and share repurchase. At this time, on the share repurchase side, while it remains an option, our organic and inorganic investments are yielding a very attractive return, but, again we remain open to all forms of capital allocation.

Sathish Kasinathan

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. Congrats on a good quarter.

Barbara Smith

Management

Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Seth Rosenfeld with Exane. Please go ahead.

Seth Rosenfeld

Analyst

Good afternoon. Congrats on a very good quarter and also congrats on [indiscernible] sustainability report. We look forward to seeing your new science-based targets, and this is a very good development. If I can ask two questions please, just with regards to your downstream operations to start out please. On downstream margins, you noted some compression in your fiscal third quarter. What should we expect for that as we look forward into Q4? I think you noted that for the more recent order intake, you are achieving good price appreciation, how should we expect that to compare versus scrap input costs into Q4? And then, a separate question also for downstream, can you just touch on the backlogs there? I think you commented stable sequentially in Q3. How would that compare to pre-COVID levels, please?

Barbara Smith

Management

Yes. Let me make a remark and then Paul can be a bit more specific. With regard to downstream margins, we manage the business through the entire value chain, and as you know that we went through the segment change as a result of that. And so, I think overall, you will see our margins in our North American and our European segment remain quite stable on a go forward basis, and that’s the strength of that integrated model. And it is designed to absorb changes in raw material pricing. And so, I think you can see some nice stability through the value chain. In terms of the backlog, while it is stable, I think that there are just lots of positive signs relative to a year ago. Bidding activity is good. All of the indicators that we highlighted in our remarks are continuing to improve and gain momentum. The reopening in the U.S. has been stronger candidly in the second half of our fiscal year than we might have anticipated a year ago. The reopening in Europe, as you experienced firsthand, Seth, has lagged the U.S. a bit, but that seems to be gaining momentum and certainly we are seeing those positive signs in our business, so.

Seth Rosenfeld

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much. And one last question please. Can you talk on the downstream rolling capacity within Poland? You touched on earlier that you’ve already begun the ramp up process there. Can you just remind us please of the timeline to hit full capacity and full EBITDA contribution as expected, please?

Barbara Smith

Management

Yes. So, I think, we indicated it’s roughly 200,000 tons of additional capacity taking advantage of excess mill capability that we have, and we are in the early stages of the commissioning, but we have such a strong team in Poland, and they execute so well. I am very, very encouraged by the early days of the commissioning, nearly all of the product coming off of the line is saleable product. So, we anticipate a strong ramp up to that 200,000 tons, and certainly the market is supporting the need for that additional capacity. I don’t – at this stage, since we are literally just a few weeks into it, I don’t want to make some specific commitment because you are talking about a lot of complex equipment and debugging of software and other things that needs to occur over the next couple of months. But knowing how well the team in Poland executes, I would expect to see a very strong ramp up and be able to get to the targeted levels early into our fiscal 2022.

Seth Rosenfeld

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Timna Tanners with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Timna Tanners

Analyst

Yes. Hey. Good morning, everyone.

Barbara Smith

Management

Good morning, Timna.

Paul Lawrence

Management

Good morning.

Timna Tanners

Analyst

I wanted to ask a follow-up on capital allocation and then hone in a little bit more on Europe. Just on the capital allocation side, I noticed you commented on opportunistic M&A and I just wondered if you could characterize the opportunities if they are more a downstream or upstream or how they are looking relative to the past or any color there, just how you are looking at that in light of current very strong conditions? Are there a lot of opportunities?

Barbara Smith

Management

Thank you, Timna. This is always a challenging one, because we can’t really talk specifics. But we are open and looking across the value chain, I would say, we would prioritize – prioritize upstream where we have needs to build that additional capability of recycling and collection to support our mills. We are in a great position, but with our broader footprint, there is some areas that might be attractive to us. We will look across our full geography. Probably, not going to see us build our rebar fabrication to any great extent and mostly we were to expand our mill capability in that area. But there are other possibilities. We now have wire rod as part of our capability. So, there could be some interesting assets both steel making or downstream that could be something worth considering. But I wouldn’t say that the market is – there are lot of assets that are coming to market. But we stay very close to the situation and we have a balance sheet to stand ready if something interesting comes along.

Timna Tanners

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for that. It’s helpful. And then on the Europe market conditions, if you could, I know, on the 9th Slide of your presentation, that looks like a massive step change in terms of margins for Europe. I just want to understand is that’s a new normal or how you think about that being sustained? Certainly, it looks like Turkey is offering tons and Europe is talking about some protection. And CIS tons, we are hearing a level a bit. So, just trying to get a flavor for how to think about that market’s margins going forward?

Barbara Smith

Management

Yes. Thank you, Timna. So, as you know, the safeguards in Europe were initially designed somewhere to 232 and they were modified and changed to a quarter basis and then there have modifications and enhancements to that based on issues that arise in the implementation of all those strategies. So, I think, from the existing safeguard measures, I think we are seeing the effective of – the effectiveness of that and effectiveness of some of the modifications that have made – have been made over time. I think the second thing is if the demand profile is quite strong, which has helped to support the volumes and the margins in Europe. And candidly, the margins needed to heal and recover following some of the challenges that were brought about by the ineffectiveness of the safeguard measures. As you may have also read, there is news that the EU has recommended that the safeguards be extended. The vote is tomorrow. So we will be watching that vote carefully. But that’s a good indicator that they are recommending that the safeguards extend. So, I think the strong market conditions are having as much more to do with this as the safeguard has been in place for some period of time now.

Paul Lawrence

Management

Yes. I would just add that, different from the U.S., Europe was struggling economically going into the pandemic. And obviously, the pandemic has, as Barbara said, had a greater impact on Europe and – than it has on the U.S. And so, really for quite a period of time now, the European margins were at historical low levels. And part of this is a recovery back to normal and slightly above at this stage. But it’s not that far above the historical through the cycle levels.

Timna Tanners

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, both very much.

Barbara Smith

Management

Thanks, Timna.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question will come from Emily Chieng with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Emily Chieng

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, Barbara and Paul. Thanks for taking the time here. My first question is just around what you are seeing in Europe around? And then, from your customers around finding and buying low carbon products, particularly as you have a very attractive carbon profile relative to that some of your peers?

Barbara Smith

Management

Well, I think, the results somewhat speaks of themselves. We are very proud of our low carbon business model and we are very proud of our customer service and quality and we’ve been working on a number of projects in Europe to improve all those things. We have a great team that executes well and as Paul indicated, the market conditions are improving and the economies are healing from the pandemic. So, we see a nice demand profile going forward, which is a result of the combination of all of those things.

Emily Chieng

Analyst

That’s helpful. And my second question is just around your production expectations. I know you mentioned production records during the quarter. But for how long can you sort of continue to operate at such high utilization rates. So, is there some level of maintenance we should expect over the next couple of quarters there? Thank you.

Barbara Smith

Management

Yes. Emily, we conduct maintenance on an ongoing basis and our equipment is maintained incredibly well and we – so, we will comment on specifics as we move forward in the various quarters. But in the coming couple of quarters, there is nothing outstanding to highlight.

Emily Chieng

Analyst

That’s really helpful. Thank you.

Barbara Smith

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from John Tumazos with John Tumazos Very Independent. Please go ahead.

John Tumazos

Analyst

Thank you very much. I have a couple of questions related to pricing to whatever extent you can describe it. What are current spot rebar prices? Why do bar products diverge so much CMA grew hot-rolled futures this morning by $17.20 per ton. And how much would it be reasonable to expect the August quarter realizations to improve from 794 in the U.S. and Europe at 664? Thank you.

Barbara Smith

Management

John, thank you very much for your question. Unfortunately, we don’t make comments about – specific comments around pricing and I think supply and demand tend to work really, really well. And so, unfortunately, I can’t get more specific than that.

John Tumazos

Analyst

What is your invoice price for – quoted price for rebar if somebody wanted to buy a 1,000 tons today?

Barbara Smith

Management

They could enquire on our customer service line and reach one of our sales folks. I am sorry. I am not going to comment on specific prices.

John Tumazos

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And there appears to be no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Smith for any closing remarks.

Barbara Smith

Management

Thank you, Cole. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today on our conference call. And thank you again to the CMC team for an outstanding quarter of performance. We look forward to speaking with many of you during our investor calls in the coming days and weeks. Thank you again.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today’s Commercial Metals Company’s conference call. You may now disconnect.