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Cheetah Mobile Inc. (CMCM)

Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Fri, Jun 14, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Cheetah Mobile First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jing Zhu of Cheetah Mobile’s Investors Relations Department. Please go ahead.

Helen Jing Zhu

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to Cheetah Mobile’s first quarter 2019 earnings conference call. With us today are our Chairman and CEO, Mr. Fu Sheng; and our company's CFO, Mr. Vincent Jiang. Following management's prepared remarks, we will conduct a Q&A section. Before we begin, I refer you to the Safe Harbor statement in our earnings release, which also applies to our conference call today, as we will make forward-looking statements. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference call over to our company's Chairman and CEO, Mr. Fu Sheng. Please go ahead.

Fu Sheng

Analyst

Thank you, Jing Zhu. Hi, everyone. First, while our first quarter 2019 financial results met management’s expectations, revenues accelerated, but we may face some challenges to grow our revenues in the near-term. Additionally, we plan to increase our investment in AI which may reduce our profitability in the short-term as our AI business is still in its early stage of development. The recent global business environment has brought some difficulties to our overseas business. In addition, we are still facing challenges resulting from misleading statement made by a third-party in late November 2018. The impact of misleading statements on our business was more significant that we expected. Also we have issued several public statements to clarify and explain the situation. Those allegations implicate considerable damage to our brand reputation and resulted to a pause in our collaboration with some of our business partners in the overseas market. Cheetah Mobile’s audit committee has conducted an independent review of these allegations with outside counsel Skadden, Arps and independent data auditing firm AlixPartners to review, dislodge or identify any information inconsistent with the company's previous disclosures. We have informed our business partners about the conclusion of the review. Some of them have resumed business relations with us but some of them still have not, including Facebook, even though Facebook had preapproved the selection of auditing firm. We are committed to providing the high quality advertising product and service to our business partners. We plan to engage reputable third-party approach, encouraging companies to intensively monitor our ad service. We hope that by taking this additional step we can fully adjust the content our overseas business partners may have as a result of last year's allegation. Second, our utility product business and the mobile entertainment business has continued to collectively deliver, help revenues and profit…

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Thank you, Sheng, and hello, everyone. Total revenue in the first quarter of 2019 was RMB1.09 billion, reaching the high end of our revenue guidance. This result was primarily driven by our mobile and entertainment business which saw revenue increase by 42% to RMB556 million year-over-year and represented 51% of our total revenue. We also incurred an operating loss of RMB18 million on a GAAP basis. On a non-GAAP basis, we generated an operating profit of RMB9 million. The decline in the operating profit compared to previous quarters was mainly attributable to our increased investments in AI technologies, which amounted to roughly RMB98 million in the first quarter of 2019. Our utility products and related services business continue to earn profits. Losses from our mobile entertainment business narrowed significantly and non-GAAP net income attributable to Cheetah Mobile shareholders was RMB34 million in the quarter. I will expand on the result of the quarter, please note that all financial numbers are in RMB terms unless otherwise noted. In the first quarter revenue from mobile entertainment business increased by 42% year-over-year to RMB556 million, in particular this increase is attributable to increases in revenues from mobile games and LiveMe, our live streaming business. Revenues from our mobile game grew by 73% year-over-year to RMB302 million, mainly due to the incremental revenue contributions from Bricks n Balls which is a game that started to ramp up towards the end of Q2 2018. Additionally, our flagship titles, including Piano Tiles 2, Rolling Sky, and Dancing Line were still very strong in the first quarter of 2019. We also launched several casual games during the quarter. Although those casual games contributed to revenue growth, such contributions were insignificant. Revenue from LiveMe was up 17% year-over-year to RMB255 million. This increase was primarily driven by several…

Operator

Operator

[Operator instructions] Our first question today comes from Wendy Huang with Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Wendy Huang

Analyst

Thank you. So I will ask in Chinese first, then translate into English [Foreign Language]. I have two questions. The first is about the revenue model, and also the potential monetizations from AI. So given the current investment you are making in AI or AI product you're having now, so what's the most likely brand new models out of it? And second, so I wonder what's the major structural issue you are facing for your legacy utility business right now? Is it the overall advertising market issue or is it overseas market inconsistent issue or there's other problems out there? And also regarding the recent Huawei and also Google dispute, if Huawei is already banned to use Google's android system, how would that actually potentially indirectly impacted your overseas business? Thank you.

Fu Sheng

Analyst

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Yes, first of all from the traditional utility product there are two sides of an impact. First of all, is the android operating system itself. Right now, the factors have been taking more and more of these features into the device and by themselves, not to the privileges, that may provided to the developers.

Fu Sheng

Analyst

[Foreign Language]

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Okay. Huawei event itself doesn't really have a direct impact on us. But from this event, you can notice that the android operating ecosystem has a major impact on the other players on the ecosystems. So ...

Fu Sheng

Analyst

[Foreign Language]

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Also, for example, our business partners such as Facebook, and if they start doing business such as providing the third-party advertising business with us, we will have lost one of the monetization channels. And …

Fu Sheng

Analyst

[Foreign Language]

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Okay. In terms of the revenue model from the AI business, on the consumer side, we have launched several products such as the one that we call [Baobaolong], which is a device -- or smart device to helping students to learn English and we are having a very good user growth on that product. But comparing to the overall Cheetah Mobile’s size, that revenue contribution is still relatively small. Also from the 2B side, we can see that there’s a lot of opportunities in the traditional business -- traditional industry that can be enabled by AI technologies. So we still see a lot of opportunities there and we do have some product and services available already. But still comparing those business’ revenue contribution is still relatively small. So compared to the overall revenue scale of Cheetah Mobile, those contributions are still relatively small. Operator [Operator Instructions] Our next question today comes from Hillman Chan with Citi. Please go ahead.

Hillman Chan

Analyst

Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I will ask in Chinese first and translate into English. [Foreign Language]. So my first question is about the AI. So could management share more on the product or service pipeline for the consumer side as well as enterprise side? And how should we think about the investment budget on the AI business segment this year? And my second question is on the second quarter guidance. Could management share more into the granularity by business segment on the second quarter outlook? Thank you very much.

Fu Sheng

Analyst

[Foreign Language]

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Okay. First of all, the AI consumer products have a very good quarter-over-quarter increase. We are very satisfied with that. In terms of 2B business, we all know that it takes a longer period of time for the early investments in AI, in the actual business. We have implemented successfully several scenario that -- including like shopping malls, libraries and we have developed some quite successful applications and products for those scenarios. We expect that the revenue from the two business product will be more visible in the next few quarters. We think that probably in the next one year or next -- after two quarters, we'll see some meaningful revenue contributions from AI 2B products and services.

Fu Sheng

Analyst

[Foreign Language]

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Okay. In terms of the allegations made against us last year, the impact actually is much more than what we expected. And we do need some time to find new business partners to replacing the one we lost as a result of those allegations. In terms of the Q2 guidance, we think that Q2 is probably the lowest revenue season for us and we expect that in the second half of the year we will resume the normal business trajectory that we had in the past.

Fu Sheng

Analyst

[Foreign Language]

Vincent Jiang

Analyst

Also -- this event also resulted in the delay of the launch of several of our new products, specifically games and utility apps. So that actually delayed our overall revenues for the Q2. Again, we expect that we will resume the normal operation of those games and the products.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Helen Jing Zhu

Analyst

Thank you all for joining us today and if you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Thank you so much. Bye.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.