Michael Porcelain
Analyst · Northland Capital.
Yes. I would say, first, the -- right now, given that it's so early in the fiscal year, I would say, I have more comfort to tell you to think about it, consolidated EBITDA margin being in the 13.7% range. That I would say is probably the best way at the moment to look at it. But taking a step back, we do have pretty good pipeline and backlog into our government segment. And so when you look at the 7.7% we achieved in fiscal 2018 in terms of EBITDA as a percentage of sales, I do expect that number to increase. So 7.7%, I think, we're going to do better. I'd love to hit 10% in 2019. That was the goal that we set for ourselves. Can I get there? I'm not sure. So if we hit 9%, 10%, 10%, 11%, whatever we do, the rest will fall into the commercial side in the unallocated column. Speaking directly on the commercial side, we did achieve 19.7% adjusted EBITDA margins for the year, which was better than what we thought. It was an improvement than what we did year-over-year. If you go back to 2017, we did, I think, around 18%. So we did improvement. We are expecting 2019 to be another year of investment in, what I call, the HEIGHTS products. We're seeding the market. We're seeing growth. We want to build this total addressable market as fast as we can. We believe, we have the best product on the marketplace and so we're going to do anything we can to get the market share and do what we need to do to build this market for the long term. So we made a comment in our call, our HEIGHTS products do have, today, lower gross margins than our traditional products. So we will see some gross margin pressure, if you will, to use that phrase, in our Commercial segment. And that will impact the margins. Can we beat the 19.7%? We did in '18, I'd say, it's going to be tough at the moment to do that. But we need to see how the year plays out and the actual contracts that we get in.