Lawrence De Maria
Analyst · William Blair
Okay, thanks. And then your previous comment about being a leader in your industries. I guess agriculture is, obviously, the one you're closest to, you having the leadership position and the others are further behind. So I'm curious about how the uptick in R&D is skewed between the segments? And if it's particularly skewed towards AG? And maybe not so much towards the other segments which are much more difficult to get to that leader position?
Hubertus Mühlhäuser: Yes, I mean, the question is always how you define leader. I mean, obviously, and that was my comment on construction, we're not a market share leader in Construction Equipment. So the question, is, in this perspective segments you operate, you want to have leadership position in technology. And I think what also people have not yet realized is with the going down of diesel, and the emergence of electronic drives or also gas drives I also think that we're going to see in the off-highway market a lot more LNG and CNG powered equipment. And that for me is then a leadership position that you would then having in that specific segment because that's going to be a competitive advantage, it's going to be USB for us. So that's how I would define leadership, it's in the segments where you act that you have a leadership position in terms of a service or product that you offer. And needless to say, our margins today are not where they should be. I think they're very, very competitive in the Powertrain segment. I mean, we're industry-leading there. We are very, very competitive in AG but we have enormous room for improvement in Commercial Vehicles and on the CE side. And I think we can do this despite having the scale of some of our larger competitors, and that's what we're going to analyze in the -- in our strategic business plan. How we can basically bring those markets up, how we can increase scale where needed or how we can refocus in areas where we do have a competitive advantage, and where we basically get that innovation premium that will drive the margins. And talking about innovation premium, and we're not the largest CV manufacturer on the planet, clearly not. We're #5 in Europe, however, in that niche which is become a very, very prominent segment of LNG, we have a USB and we have a competitive advantage and also a margin advantage and people are paying for the innovation premium.