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Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 16, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Umpqua Holdings Corporation First Quarter Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Ron Farnsworth, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Ronald Farnsworth

Management

Okay. Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining us today on our first quarter 2015 earnings call. With me this morning are Ray Davis, the President and CEO of Umpqua Holdings Corporation; Cort O'Haver, our President of Commercial Banking; Greg Seibly, our President of Consumer Banking; and Mark Wardlow, our Chief Credit Officer. Cort, Greg and Mark will join us, as we take your question after our prepared remarks. Yesterday afternoon we issued an earnings release discussing our first quarter 2015 results. We have also prepared a slide presentation, which we will refer to during our remarks this morning. Both of these materials can be found on our website, at umpquabank.com, under the Ask Us, Investor Relations section. During today's call, we may make forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties and are intended to be covered by the safe harbor provisions of Federal Securities Law. For a list of factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Please refer to Page 2 of our earnings conference call presentation, as well as the disclosures contained within our SEC filing. I will now turn the call over to Ray Davis.

Raymond Davis

Management

Okay. Thanks, Ron. As we have reported over the last few quarters, our company's focus has been on completing the integration of Umpqua and Sterling including converting all systems and capturing the remaining cost synergy while we continue to generate strong organic growth. We have made good progress on both although the financial benefit of that progress was not fully reflected in the current quarters operating results. I will discuss both of this in greater detail on just a few moments. For the quarter we have reported operating earnings of $56.4 million which equates to $0.26 per share compared to the $0.27 per share we earned in the fourth quarter of 2014 and $0.21 per share over the same period a year ago. Ron, will go through our financial results in more detail but I want to outline the key items that impacted our first quarter financial results. First, although loan growth was strong in the first quarter, net interest income decreased by $11 million from the prior quarter. Over half of the decrease related to a lower credit discount accretion with the remaining portion primarily coming from too fewer days of interest income in the quarter. This is not to be a surprise as we have guided expectations to steady decreases and the credit discount accretion overtime. Second, the provision for loan and lease losses was higher by $8.5 million from the prior quarter. This increase was due to stronger loan growth during the first quarter and from increased charge-offs on a quarter-over-quarter basis. Third, we benefited from a decline in the 10-year treasury in the early part of the quarter which drove an increase in mortgage refinances. That combined with the 70 basis point improvement in our gain on sale margin contributed to an $11.7 million increase in…

Ronald Farnsworth

Management

Okay, thanks Ray. As I go through my detailed quarterly review comments I will be referring to certain slides from our first quarter presentation deck, which we posted on the Investor Relations section of UmpquaBank.com yesterday afternoon for you to follow along. With that please turn to the income statement on Slide 3 of the presentation. We reported $0.26 per share in operating earnings for the first quarter of 2015. This is down $0.01 per share from $0.27 in the fourth quarter of 2014. As a reminder operating earnings are defined as earnings available to common shareholders before gains and losses on junior subordinated debentures carried at fair value and merger related expenses both net of tax. A few moving parts led to the $0.01 decline this quarter. I'll cover each of these in detail shortly, but at a high level we had $0.03 of pressure from lower net interest income and $0.02 of decline from the higher provision for loan losses. Offsetting this was a higher net contribution from our home lending group of $0.02 and $0.02 of benefit from lower operating expenses. Turning towards the bottom of the P&L summary on Slide 5, we had $8.5 million of merger expense this quarter after-tax. We expect a slightly higher amount for the second quarter related to the core system conversion with much smaller amounts trailing through year end. Now turning to Slide 6, net interest income decreased by $11 million from the prior quarter level. A little over $6 million of this decline related to lower credit discount accretion from the Sterling deal. The remaining $5 million of the decline came simply from two fewer days in the quarter. On the Sterling credit discount a little over half of the $6 million decline was from lower purchased credit impaired…

Raymond Davis

Management

Okay, before we take your questions, just a reminder, our priorities for the near term have not changed. We remain focused on finalizing the remaining pieces of the integration, continued strong organic loan and deposit growth, further optimization of revenues and expenses, leveraging our technology to continue to enhance the customer experience and improving shareholder returns by managing current capital and deploying excess capital in a prudent manner. We believe we are well positioned in each of these areas and look forward to updating you on our progress over the coming quarters. We'll now pause and take your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We’ll take our first question from Jeff Rulis with D.A. Davidson.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Thanks, good morning. Ron, just to go back to the non-interest expense slide you've got a core expense of $179 million in Q1. I guess if you would look at the $36 million annualized cost savings yet to be achieved or $9 million a quarter I guess that implies the run rate is around $170 million a quarter, is that correct?

Ronald Farnsworth

Management

Actually it would be a bit less than that because also I want to stress in here in the first quarter with the store savings of $1 million, that was just for the month of March which is $12 million annualized, or $3 million a quarter so, that will taken fully in the second.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

So you don't embed that in the cost savings target?

Ronald Farnsworth

Management

It's in the cost savings target but it's already been achieved. So, for the first quarter there was only $1 million of that reflected in the $179 million of ending expenses but that’s $12 million on a annualized basis, so it was only $1 million for the month of March in the first quarter, it will be for $3 million you will see on that in the second.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Okay. So on a core really sub $170 is what you’re implying?

Ronald Farnsworth

Management

Yes.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Okay. And then just as you talk about the savings accelerating in the next two quarters is it lumpy in the form of Q2 should see the bulk of that and then Q3 is the remainder or will it be evenly balanced?

Raymond Davis

Management

Yes, this is Ray Jeff. I think you're going to see a chunk of it in the second quarter, the remaining balance - the biggest piece perhaps by the end of the third quarter.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Okay, fair enough. And then in the net charge-off category I guess were there significant loans in there fairly granular and maybe within what category if you could give maybe some color about what's charged-off?

Mark Wardlow

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Okay, Jeff this is Mark. Yes, I would say there was a couple of deals that I would categorize is having higher than normal levels of charge off but I would also point out that, if you look at the rest of our credit metrics just about every measurement you want to look at including the imperial ratio has come down and as Ron mentioned we expect continued reductions and Umpqua is going forward, we also expect that provision expense will come down in subsequent quarters as well.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

And Mark, any indication on those charge-offs did they come from Sterling or Umpqua legacy?

Mark Wardlow

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

They were - the biggest bulk was a classic Umpqua deal.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Got it. And maybe one for Ray just on the appetite on M&A you've outlined your capital surplus is around $200 million but given that you're through conversion does that change your mentality incrementally quarter-to-quarter here?

Raymond Davis

Management

Jeff, I really don't think it changes it. I think we have - even during the sub - post announcement of the transaction, we have been presented deals that we have no interest and looking at but we’re always interested in looking that something that can, strategically fit in with what we are trying to do and make sense. But I think we still have some ways to go on integrating. We want to wrap this up, clearly but I would not roll out, if something hit my desk that we really thought made sense but we take a look at it we would but I don't - there is nothing imminent, nor do I see anything happening in the near future.

Jeff Rulis

Analyst · D.A. Davidson

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Aaron Deer with Sandler O'Neill & Partners.

Aaron Deer

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners

Good morning everyone. I wanted to touch on the topic of loan growth. It was nice you guys got some acceleration in your organic growth this quarter. It seemed like a lot of it was in the multifamily category and then some residential mortgage. I'm wondering you can talk a little bit about what happened with the C&I in the quarter and kind of what the outlook for that? And just in general to the extent you guys are looking to reposition some of the loan book how might we see you stepping on the gas in certain categories to get more in the C&I and the consumer side?

Cort O'Haver

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners

This is Cort, Aaron. Let me talk about the commercial side little bit, Greg comment little bit on consumer, so on commercial lending of the 690, a new production actually 41% of it was in commercial lending. Now relative to the footings that you see on the balance sheet, we're heavy into ag and so we had some - if you look at the slight decline that we had in commercial footings, it was really related to ag. And we see that every first quarter and sometime it trails early into the second quarter and those people get in the planning season nevertheless. But relative to total production commercial was actually pretty good, if you add up the two combined banks production for the first quarter, we were $10 million more this quarter then the best quarter both banks have posted combine integrated recessions. We feel very, very strong about the momentum that we created late last year and all of the disciplines that we got. So that would commercial lending, commercial real estate, multifamily, SPA and its impact. Both of your question around multifamily obviously with rates coming down slightly in January actually quite a bit late January and February, we saw an uptick and some refinance opportunities in multifamily and we also saw some deals got the back door, so we have some loans pay off and so we can back fill what paid off for the little bit of gross production. We haven’t really lifted the overall position of the multifamily in aggregate on the total portfolio, so as we close the deals let's about 17%, we feel pretty good about that, it’s a great asset class that we are in all the major metropolitan markets up in down the west coast, majority of the loans we…

Aaron Deer

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners

That's encouraging on the commercial side for sure. On the multifamily that was booked in the quarter just and the reason I'm asking is because a lot of the banks that I've talked to recently have suggested that the pricing on that product in particular has just gotten really compressed. Can you talk about what kind of yields those particular loans were coming on at this quarter?

Cort O'Haver

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners

Yes, I mean you are right, and we see a lot of - I call goofy pricing and goofy structures too to be quite honest with you Aaron. We're still getting in the fours, most of our loans even know there are 10, 15, 20-year maturities have five year resets. So they reprise with the margin over the index in five years, so even though they look on our books with hard maturity that’s out there for quite some term, they reprise in a more reasonable near term and we are very, very sensitive the amount of low fixed rate debt to be put on the books, we are very, very selective.

Aaron Deer

Analyst · Sandler O'Neill & Partners

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Joe Morford with RBC Capital Markets.

Joe Morford

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Good morning everyone. Just a circle back on the capital deployment recognizing you're going to be kind orderly with it and not do it all at once or whatever, when might we see you move on some of that action be it I mean recognizing organic growth is a top priority but to the extent you might consider a buyback or something like that, when might we see you look to pursue that?

Raymond Davis

Management

Joe hi, it's Ray. I can't give you a date, when we are start doing, I can't tell you this, so its something that we talk about on our regular executive meetings on a regular basis, what is the capital position, what is our best use of the capital today, what are our prospects for in the near term so it's a value added constantly but for me to give you a date would be very speculative and I don’t want to do that. Q – Joe Morford: Okay. So it's not like this tied to a certain time of year where you review these actions? It's kind of an ongoing dialogue?

Raymond Davis

Management

That is correct. Q – Joe Morford: Okay. Then the other question is just curious to learn a little more about the drivers to the deposit growth this quarter which seemed to accelerate and seemed to be a good mix shift as well but drivers to that and then how sustainable that may be going forward?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Yes, Joe, it’s Greg. So couple of things on that, first of all, you are right the mix shift continues to improve up to just under 30% right now in terms of DDA. I think what we’re seeing is really an extension of a four quarter run. If you go back to essentially the first quarter after the deal closed, we’ve seen nearly $1.2 billion of total growth about 6.7% last year about 8% annualized in the first quarter. I think it’s just good blocking and tackling and it’s coming out of the stores, it’s coming out of the commercial themes as well I think people are very focused on making sure that our core funding is where we needed to be to be able to support loan growth. So all over it’s water on that issue and again to me this is a very good linked year-over-year quarter for us, because typically we would see numbers that would be a bit more flattish in the first quarter, but I think what you’re seeing at the moment and that’s been built very intentionally over the course of last four quarters.

Joe Morford

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets

Okay. That’s encouraging. Thanks, Greg.

Operator

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Jacque Chimera with KBW.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

Hi, good morning guys. I wonder if you could touch on mortgage banking? You had a really strong quarter in that and just how things have been looking this first couple of weeks into the quarter and your expectations as we move forward?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

Yeah, Jacque, it’s Greg. We feel good. I think if you just look at again we had some favorable trends in terms of the 10-year into quarter. Little bit of a dip at the end of the quarter that had some impact on MSR as Ron said that we’d have preferred not to had the deal with, but I think we’re well positioned. Again, I’d encourage you to kind of look at the story overtime and when the companies first came together year-over-year quarter last year if you put the companies together would have been in the mid-$700 million type production. And then that’s grown sequentially really every quarter through 2014 and then to just under $1.2 billion during the first quarter I think the gentlemen who run our mortgage operation our top door they have done a very good job of making sure that we’re focused around a couple of factors both growth on a disciplined basis and also profitability. What we’re really focused on is trying to make sure that we’re doing about 75% of that production originated for sale making sure that we keep our operations and our team sharp and focused around expense management. And our view is – we have lots of opportunity here overtime as we kind of widened that across the footprint as well.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

Okay. And that 70 basis point expansion in your gain on sale margin, was that gradual throughout the quarter the increase?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

Well, I think some of it. It’s a couple of different things. Ron you can go on to some details as well I think part of it is the benefit of increasing LOC pipeline some of it is obviously some pricing opportunities as we had dips in truck order for us to widen margins selectively. There is several contributing factors, but I would say it’s going back towards the trend that you would have seen historically out of classic Umpqua we had to grow focuses on making sure that we have profitable and sustainable growth.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

Okay. So is it fair to say that it's somewhat impacted by the mix with the refi having a higher gain on sale margin and since that was a higher portion of the mix than in past quarters that also benefited?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

That has something I mean I think the short answer is yes mix does have a benefit and you are right that we would see enhanced profitability there I think the other issues. Again in the rate environment that would be similar to today with that LOC pipeline stand where it is. We think that we’re looking at a continuation of the trends that you saw in the first quarter for the foreseeable next couple of months or so certainly.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

Okay. And if my calculations are correct then purchase volume was only down 10% which was surprising, I would've thought that there would have been more of a seasonal dip in that. Do you think that we could see that move up quite a bit as we head into the spring season?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

Well, I think we’re definitely I mean we’re moving into purchase season. It’s a little interesting for company’s position where we are across our five states, because the winter of 2014 and ‘15 was kind of the winter that never was, right? So we saw…

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

Yeah.

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

At our purchase activity in points North and we typically would see, because people were kind of out and about and it was an ordinary day in the life. So we think purchase stayed up to your point. It was more robust and we typically would see at this time in the year. I think it all depends on rates, Jacque. Yeah, I think if rates stay where they are I think you could still see about a 60/40 refi to purchase type volume in the second quarter, which was inverse of where we were couple of quarters ago, but anywhere – I think anywhere between 40% and 50% in terms of refi it’ll work just fine for us.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

Okay. Great.

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

It’s going to be pretty I think pretty balanced over the course of the next quarter or two.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

And are you seeing any of your markets any of the metro areas where supply is constraining in terms of purchasers?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

Yes, increasingly so. I mean there are more lookers than there is available in inventories for people. It’s obviously creating some good price appreciation and we’re actually seeing some pretty interesting trends now around people, who may have stayed-put through the down graft in the economy. Starting to look for - not just kind of one step move up, but multiple step move ups in the next purchase. So I think it’s having some impacts on the overall size of the average loan demand that we’re looking at as well, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it’s different than it has been coming out of other cycles.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

And just really broadly have you done any work or had any thoughts on -- I don't want to say wasted time of your lenders because obviously when they're working it's not wasted but just borrowers who are putting in multiple offers and continue to be rejected, is that starting to take a toll on just efficiency and production?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · KBW

It does a bit. We were mindful of that. We still we watch very closely kind of all our pull through numbers, because clearly one of the issues we worry about in terms of fallout is we have a bunch of folks, who are just window shopping, but aren’t necessarily closing particularly if you get to that apps stage. But we’re seeing our pull through rate has stayed really strong I think part of it is the markets that we’re in. We still are very focused in a lot of what I would characterize is suburban non-metro type markets in a pull through that we typically seen in those markets -- has stayed in the mid-80% range, which is right where it’s been over the course of the last many years.

Jacque Chimera

Analyst · KBW

Okay, great. Thank you so much for all the color. It’s wonderful.

Operator

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Jared Shaw with Wells Fargo Securities.

Jared Shaw

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Hi good afternoon. Thanks for the call. Just a question on the non-performers. Actually first we could go what was the balance of the covered loans at the end of the quarter? And then the allowance assigned for those covered loans and the net charge-offs coming from the covered loans?

Ron Farnsworth

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Again, we combined that, because by the end of the quarter two of the three portfolios was - hit the expiration of the charge-offs – sorry, the lost share for the commercial side of the house. So what we have left is just a little over $100 million, which will move off of coverage status by the end of Q2 and that was related to the Nevada security deal from June of 2010. And in terms of the allowance of that as we showed last quarter fairly static, so no significant change in the level of reserve for it nor with the provision from quarter-to-quarter.

Jared Shaw

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. And then when you had mentioned an expected reduction in NPAs going to the second quarter, is that due to curing of the non-performers or through charge-offs?

Mark Wardlow

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

No. It is Mark, Jared. It’s actually a good thing. It’s sales of two or three large OREO properties and resolution of large credit that should all happen in the second quarter with very little in the way of charge-offs with those resolutions.

Jared Shaw

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Okay, great. And then, just finally following up I guess on Jacque's question on the mortgage sales, so you think that the gain on sale margin could be sustained going into second quarter here at these higher levels?

Greg Seibly

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Yes. We have looked at that extensively I think its right to stay where they are. We continue to hold up our LOC pipeline. We think we’ll be stable in terms of kind of the linked quarter gain on sale expectations.

Jared Shaw

Analyst · Wells Fargo Securities

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And we’ll take our next question from Steven Alexopoulos with JPMorgan.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst · JPMorgan

Hey, good afternoon everyone. Could I start -- can you talk about the strategic decision to sell the $73 million of resi mortgage loans in the quarter?

Ron Farnsworth

Analyst · JPMorgan

Sure. This is Ron. Similar to the last couple quarters it’s just about managing overall interest rate risk it’s a longer term fixed loans within the portfolio.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst · JPMorgan

Okay, got you. And then following up on the strong growth in multifamily this quarter can you talk about the appetite to grow the overall commercial real estate bucket and what your overall thoughts here on managing that concentration risk of CRE?

Cort O'Haver

Analyst · JPMorgan

Hi Steven, it's Cort. Relative to multifamily, we just kind of look at it quarter-to-quarter and we do run-off some in the quarter, we had some run-off, we run-off by $50 million a month in multifamily. Once again we have not increased the overall percentage in the overall portfolio, so we look at it pretty closely relative to commercial real estate, we don't feel that we’re overly concentrated in commercial real estate, I might let Mark comment on that if you would like we do a different type of real estate than the bank had done in the past. We deal with a - we call Tier 1 real estate type customer, we see a lot of velocity in that portfolio also these are shorter term value added kind of deals, we don’t do a lot of fixed rate in the commercial real estate portfolio proper type financing. So there is high velocity every 18 to 24 months. Those deals will prove to non-recourse like company type finance which is where it needs to be and off our balance sheet. So we have an appetite for it because we have velocity in both the multifamily and the more traditional commercial real estate portfolio.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst · JPMorgan

Okay, got you. Then shifting gears outside of realizing the expected $87 million of cost saves how should we think about organic growth of expenses of the core business given just the investments that you're making?

Cort O'Haver

Analyst · JPMorgan

Just from the core business it's going to be consistent with past annual trends in that 2% to 3% range.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst · JPMorgan

Okay perfect. And Ron just one technical question. The cost of interest-bearing deposits has just drifted up over the last few quarters. I'm just curious why that's the case given you seem to have excess deposits today?

Ronald Farnsworth

Management

Well strong deposit growth also you see some mixed change impacting that, so if you look at the total, cost of total deposits you will see it flat if not down and I would say overall for interest bearing it is just bouncing along across the bottom.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst · JPMorgan

Okay. Got it. Okay thanks for the color.

Ronald Farnsworth

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from David Long with Raymond James.

David Long

Analyst · Raymond James

Hey guys. You guys talked a lot about the expense rationalization from the acquisitions but let's look at the other side at the revenue side. What color can you provide us with revenue synergies that have been realized from the Sterling acquisition to date and then what's your outlook over the next few quarters?

Raymond Davis

Management

This is Ray. Let me hit the big button, obviously what Greg has talked to you about on the consumer side on home mortgage has gone up dramatically, that's one area. The second area that has gone up also and Greg has got the number in top of his head, I think it is percentage of growth I think was 58% in our consumer lending throughout the stores and the network that the work that he has done which is exact on not only training our people in the stores to originate the loans and process but that has been another major win for the company and that has upside for us as well. So I think from a revenue point of view, those are the two biggest areas that we’re seeing incremental revenue growth coming from.

David Long

Analyst · Raymond James

Okay. And with the closing of the integration does that accelerate? Are there more initiatives that you can take on at this point or has everything already been started?

Raymond Davis

Management

Well the whole lending side - you tell me what rates are going to be and I will tell you how well we are going to do. On the consumer side, yes, I think we have an upside on that because it really is just really come out of the gate, I think we have significant upside on the overall consumer lending portfolio growth opportunity that we have. The interesting thing about this whole integration as we look back at and believe me guys we do post mortem on just about everything we do around here to make sure that we don't lose track of the good things that are going on and make sure we minimize the things that didn’t work out so well. But I can tell you that now with the conversion behind us and this is important because when I said earlier this is the major hurdle that was stopping us or preventing us from doing all the things that we want to get on with growing the business, optimizing revenues, getting that efficiency ratio down below 60% all of that now is open. That gate is now opened. So we realize the pressure is on us now that there is no hurdle for us to overcome. Let's pray there is no unforeseen something bad that happens in the economy or in Europe or whatever but I mean the company couldn’t be better positioned and if you look back at these numbers that these fellows are sharing with you on growth, on what we - through the conversion, through the integration, and then have the strong organic growth we have had, I had to say that we had our bumps on some of the things on integration but I would say overall this has been a very, very big success for our company one that all of us, all of us are very, very proud of.

David Long

Analyst · Raymond James

Great thanks for the color, Ray.

Operator

Operator

And at this time there are no other questions. Thank you. I will turn it back to our presenters for any closing remarks.

Raymond Davis

Management

Okay. I’m going to thank everyone for their interest in Umpqua Holdings and attendance on the call today. This will conclude the call. Good bye.