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Americold Realty Trust, Inc. (COLD)

Q2 2019 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 9, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Americold Realty Trust second-quarter 2019 earnings conference call. [Operator instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Scott Henderson, senior vice president of capital markets and investor relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Scott Henderson

Analyst

Good afternoon. We would like to thank you for joining us today for Americold Realty Trust Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. In addition to the press release distributed this afternoon, we have filed a supplemental package with additional details on our results, which is available in the Investor section on our website at www.americold.com. On today’s call, management’s prepared remarks and answers to your questions may contain forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements address matters that are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those discussed today. A number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. Forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, assumptions and beliefs, as well as information available to us at this time and speak only as of the date they are made. And management undertakes no obligation to update publicly any of them in light of new information or future events. During this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. More information about these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measures is contained in the supplemental information package available on the company’s website. We would also like to note that numbers presented in today’s prepared remarks have been rounded to the nearest million with the exception of per share amounts. This afternoon’s conference call is hosted by Americold’s chief executive officer, Fred Boehler, and Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Marc Smernoff. Management will make some prepared comments, after which we will open up the call to your questions. Now I will turn the call over to Fred.

Fred Boehler

Analyst

Thank you, and welcome to our second quarter 2019 earnings conference call. This afternoon, I will provide highlights for the second quarter and discuss macro trends driving our business. I will then update you on our development pipeline and recent acquisition and integration activity. Marc will follow with a review of our second quarter results and then discuss our balance sheet, capital markets activity and outlook. After our prepared remarks, we’ll open up the call for your questions. The second quarter was a strong quarter for Americold. We reported revenue growth in our Global Warehouse segment of 17.6% and NOI growth of 25.3%, which includes two months of results from our recent acquisitions. On the margin side, as our platform and scale have grown, we continue to benefit from the operating efficiency gains driven by labor productivity and the leveraging of fixed expenses. For the second quarter, our Global Warehouse segment NOI margin expanded by 208 basis points over the same quarter of the prior year to 33.7%. Finally, we are pleased with the performance of our core portfolio. On a constant currency basis, our Global Warehouse segment same-store revenue grew by 3.4%, and our same-store segment NOI grew by 6.2%. Now I’d like to take a moment to discuss the underlying fundamentals within the temperature-controlled warehouse industry. We continue to see attractive supply and demand dynamics that are most favorable to owners of large, fully integrated networks of temperature-controlled warehouse space. We continue to support our more than 2,600 customers, including large global accounts and our mid-sized and emerging customers. We also continue to work with our retail customers as they navigate the evolving competitive landscape by enhancing and integrating their e-commerce offerings. While we believe that the growth of e-commerce does create opportunities for Americold, for the most…

Marc Smernoff

Analyst

Thank you, Fred, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, we will provide updates on our actual performance, as well as certain metrics on a constant currency basis. We would also note that our portfolio results this quarter includes the benefit of two months of ownership following the closing of the Cloverleaf and Lanier acquisitions. For the second-quarter 2019, we reported total revenue of $438 million and total NOI of $121 million, which reflects an 11.1% increase and a 23.3% increase over the prior year, respectively. Core EBITDA was $94 million for the second quarter of 2019, an increase of 27.1% year over year. As a result, our core EBITDA margin grew by 269 basis points to 21.4%. We reported net income of $5 million, compared to net income of $29 million for the same quarter of the prior year. Please note, our net income was impacted by several items, including costs associated with our recent acquisition activity and subsequent integration efforts to realize synergies. Also, please note that second- quarter 2018 net income included $8.4 million in gains on the sale of real estate. Our second-quarter core FFO was $56 million or $0.30 per diluted share. This compares to $43 million or $0.29 per diluted share in the second quarter of 2018. Our second-quarter AFFO was $58 million or $0.31 per diluted share, compared to $40 million or $0.27 per diluted share in the second quarter of last year. As a reminder, the full definition and reconciliation of core EBITDA, core FFO and AFFO to reported net income can be found in our supplemental. For the second-quarter 2019, Global Warehouse segment revenues were $338 million, which reflects growth of 17.6% year over year. Segment NOI was $114 million, which reflects growth of 25.3%. Global Warehouse margin was 33.7% for the second…

Fred Boehler

Analyst

Thanks, Marc. We are very pleased with our results year to date. It’s never easy to integrate a business, but our team is up for the challenge. We truly appreciate the hard work from each member of our legacy and newly expanded team. We are excited to bring these acquisitions into our platform and the direction we are headed as a company. As we continue through the second half of the year and beyond, we believe Americold is uniquely positioned to drive long-term growth and create shareholder value. We will continue to leverage our portfolio, operations, talent and technology to profitably serve all of our customers and their mission-critical temperature-controlled supply chain needs. Thanks again for joining us today and we will now open the call for your questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Manny Korchman with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.

Manny Korchman

Analyst

Hey, everyone. Good afternoon. Fred, I appreciate your remarks on e-commerce sort of maybe not impacting your business very much, but there are certainly business out there that are trying to bring all grocery delivery sort of delivered fresh to you or fresh to the consumer. Are you just saying that you think that those businesses are going to end up relying on the supermarkets? Or you just think – don’t think that they’re big enough at the distribution level to sort of change things in your business very much?

Fred Boehler

Analyst

Well, I think when you look at Manny. Sorry about that. When you look at the supply chain overall, really, when you think about e-commerce, e-commerce is another distribution method. So it’s not incremental consumption that’s going to happen in the marketplace. So product is still going to be made by the manufacturers and moved through our production-advantaged facilities. It’s then going to be moved closer to the markets and our major logistics corridors. And then it gets moved on, in this case, going to e-commerce, most of those – some of the smaller e-commerce providers are felt – fed by the local distributors. So they ship it to the distributor and then the distributor would service those local e-commerce providers. So we think that there will be a little bit of a shift as e-commerce continues to penetrate the marketplace, but we don’t think it’s a monumental shift in terms of overall demand and consumption. We also believe that for the broader United States where the density isn’t as massive as it is in, say, Manhattan, for example, that a lot of the real estate that’s already in existence, i.e., the store itself, will become a better platform to be able to service e-commerce. So you hear about micro fulfillment centers, for example, companies like Takeoff and their technology. There’s four major grocers in the United States today that are doing tests with that. And what that is, is it’s automation that’s literally in the back end of a grocery store. So they’re moving the walls out, shrinking the store itself, expanding the backroom and putting efficient automation in the backroom to be able to select its highest SKUs. So they’re only going to handle 10,000 SKUs in the automation, whereas the store has 45,000 SKUs. So the slower-moving product, they’ll still select from the store itself and then marry that off with the automation. So just in aggregate, yes, I believe that there’s a shift. Yes, I believe that e-commerce is going to continue to grow. I’m just a little bit more cautious on the amount of demand that it’s going to bring to new infrastructure and to overall volume.

Manny Korchman

Analyst

Thanks, Fred. And for Marc, on guidance, your payout ratio went down. I think you tied that to the lower share count from the delayed forward offering. Wouldn’t that impact both sides of the equation? So how much of that is just math? And how much of it is your AFFO or expected FFO actually just going up?

Marc Smernoff

Analyst

So a number of things. The revised payout ratio really is driving both of those. So as we said from our initial guidance, we mentioned that we expected the acquisitions to be immediately accretive. And then also the fact that we’re reducing the denominator due to extending the forwards, they’re both having impact to the overall yield target for the year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Carroll

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Thanks. Fred, the company has been active acquiring assets, obviously, in the second quarter. But since Americold and Lineage own about 55% of the domestic market, should we expect that the company’s going to pursue more tuck-in deals as opposed to the larger portfolios like the Cloverleaf deal going forward?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Well, I think that’s just a function of what’s out there and available, if you will. There’s very few companies that are the size and scale of a Cloverleaf, right? I think Cloverleaf, when we acquired them, was No. 5. So there’s very few companies of that size. If you recall, if you look at the top 10 players in the marketplace here in the U.S., if I just focus on the U.S., I think No. 10 on that list has two or three assets. So it’s just a very, very steep drop off. So you can kind of take with that what you’re going to read out of it. There probably are lesser opportunities of big acquisitions, more tuck-in.

Michael Carroll

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And how are you thinking about the European market or other international markets? Does it make sense to pursue a larger platform transaction abroad, especially given the recent activity we’ve seen in your cost of capital?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. We continue to explore around what we would call good, stable countries that we believe add benefit to our overall portfolio. We continue to explore those opportunities. And if we find the right situation, we will do that. But one thing that we will continue to remain true to is our acquisition strategy and kind of a deliberate aspect of finding companies that complement our portfolio and that we believe can be fully integrated into our way of doing business.

Michael Carroll

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And then I guess lastly for me, I know that you guys still have a pretty healthy shadow development pipeline. I mean is it still around $1 billion? And if so, do you expect that you can break ground on more projects in the second half of this year? Or would you prefer to just kind of advance the in-process pipeline to date?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I mean it’s possible that we could break ground later this year. The pipeline is still healthy. It is still over $1 billion. We do have seven active projects going on right now between expansions and kind of finishing facilities and new shovels that just went into the ground. So we’re pretty busy right now, but things are heating up with some other opportunities, and we’ll see how the timing works.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ki Bin Kim with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Good afternoon, guys.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, Ki Bin.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Hey. Let’s go back to the e-commerce topic. Let’s just say e-commerce, grocery e-commerce grows to 10%. And for argument’s sake, let’s assume half of that is fulfilled through micro fulfillment centers at the grocery store, like with Takeoff or CommonSense Robotics, and the half is done through the more warehouse network. So how Amazon does it, or how Ocado and Kroger tend to do it. How does Americold position itself to take advantage of that? Or does it make – or does it not make a big impact to you?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

It’s not a huge impact. I mean let me explain kind of the supply chain. So if it’s micro fulfillment centers, it follows the exact same supply chain path that we have in place today, right? So that micro fulfillment center is not treated any different than a store would be, okay. So from a flow standpoint, from an asset utilization standpoint, it’s really no different. What I would say is that we’re working with our retail customers that are doing those tests, and there might be some additional services that we can provide in our DCs to help make the goods more prepared for that automation in advance of sending it to the store, in other words, doing decanting, getting rid all the corrugate so that doesn’t have to flow to store type of thing, right? So those are additional services that we can do in our operations. If it’s a stand-alone type of operation, like an Ocado, it’s yet to be seen exactly how that will work because it can take one of two paths: either number one, it’s coming out of our distribution centers and we’re shipping product directly to Ocado, or we continue the path of shaping to a Kroger DC, and then a Kroger DC in turn, sends product to the Ocado DC. So we see Ocado, that technology, which is fantastic technology, we see it doing more than fulfilling e-commerce, at least in the beginning. There’s a lot of products in the grocery store that is slow moving, that doesn’t need full case replenishment such that it happens today. So what happens is a lot of grocers have extra supply, a lot of working capital tied up into the stores of some of these slow-moving products. So I can see Kroger and others that are getting involved in this technology leveraging that each-pick efficiency and allowing that operation to actually backfill stores in aegis.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Has the idea of being a capital partner for those build-outs, how realistic is that?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. No, that’s potential. I would remind you though that the Ocado, even the micro fulfillment centers still the percentage that’s temperature control is still a minor percentage, right, less than 20%. And it’s still yet to be seen whether or not these technologies are even operating in the frozen, in the deep freeze to support ice cream, for example. So we’ll have to look at those volumes and see how that goes to see whether or not the investment in the technology within the temperature-controlled area makes sense or whether they handle it as a one-off type of pick. So I think it’s still early to be seen.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And just last question, if I may. Just going back to your underlying business trends. It’s good to see your operating metric go back into higher growth mode. But with that said, the only comp slide alignment is the occupancy continues to be down year over year, rather than be physical pallet positions or economic occupancy. So I just want to understand what’s going on in the underlying business. Is it – how does your customer retention rate look like? And the customers that are there, are they using more services or not? And when should we see the year-over-year declines in occupancy, economic occupancy start to peter out or bottom out?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. So again, it’s this function between physical occupancy and economic occupancy is one of the big contributors. Because remember, we’re not overselling space. So when customers – as our economic occupancy continues to be on the rise, which it is, as a percentage of our overall dollars and storage and rent, as that continues to go up, it’s less space for me to physically sell into. So hence, less opportunity to drive that physical occupancy. The other thing to remember is we continue to guide looking at an annual basis. The ebbs and flows of volume from our manufacturers and from our retailers is not something that we can directly control. Sometimes there’s initiatives associated with cutting back on working capital, which might mitigate the volume going through a facility or the space at any one point in time, the harvest cycles, which have less impact on dollars, as you can see, but have an impact on physical occupancy. We had an operation that used to be leased out, which would account as 100% occupancy, and we’re moving that tenant out, and we’re going to repurpose that facility for a real nice customer that’s coming on board. But those things just tend to ebb and flow.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Ki Bin, if I can jump in and add. I’d say as the management – through our active portfolio management, what we’re really focused on is how do we drive four-wall cash flow. That’s the highest priority of our business. So while the other metrics, we report them, they’re very important and we do pay attention to them, what we focus on is how do we drive the most cash flows out of our network. And I’m going to prioritize driving cash flow over driving an occupancy metric or a throughput metric, right? So and as you see, I think the portfolio performance is performing consistent with our guidance for the year.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. And I think you asked the question about retention rate. Again, we haven’t lost any material customers. Our churn rate is pretty much consistent, and that’s just under 4% or right around 4% I think for this particular quarter. It kind of hovers around that 3% to 4% type of range, and that’s just what I’ll call normal type of churn. Customers that either are bought or customers that go out of business or customers that report folio manager, there’s a variety of reasons for that churn. But it’s still pretty low churn overall.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dave Rodgers with Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Good afternoon, Fred and Marc. And I guess, notwithstanding your comment, Marc, just about driving four-wall cash flow, I guess, go back to the economic occupancy and physical occupancy. Because we think about it from the first quarter, you had said Easter really drove a lot of that activity, the throughput volume into the second quarter. But in the second quarter, we really didn’t see the year-over-year pick up that would have expected to see with the holiday shift. You mentioned maybe emptying out a facility. Can you quantify some of the impact that you’re seeing in the numbers that might be one-time in nature that are driving the lower occupancy, both economic and physical?

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I want to make sure we’re not overstating the impact of Easter. Easter, the volume push was in the second quarter. And bear in mind, I think – and so if you think about it, Easter I think was April 20 or right around there. The push was to have the product in the stores a week prior, so we’re talking about a two-week push. So that occupancy isn’t going to impact the average on the quarter. Overall, though, if you look at – our same-store revenue grew on a constant currency basis at 3.4%, which for this industry, for overall growth, especially a significant growth. And if you think about that extrapolated over a long term, we’re very consistent with kind of our long-term guidance. And the reason why we also focus, and we say this in our prepared remarks, is to encourage people to look at a full year is because a lot of the things Fred mentioned in his prior comments was seasonality of product and different strategies of different customers or retailers in any given time, that can move the underlying holdings or throughput of volume. Our job is to make sure that we can manage that and turn it into more cash flow, which I think you saw with our performance this quarter, we’re able to show and do.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

And then maybe on the margin expansion for the year. It looked like, and just doing the quick math, I think it was the – if you adjusted for the $1 million of expenses last year, the credit last year, maybe expenses were up 1.3% normalized. Is that something that you can continue to drive? And how much of that risk, which is kind of the labor shortages and things that you’re seeing out there, can you hold that level of expense growth?

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. No, we definitely – our overall guidance implies that we will get margin expansion because, obviously, we’re outpacing our NOI growth by roughly 100, 200 basis points relative to the top line revenue growth. So we delivered that through the first half of the year, and we expect to deliver that. And that’s why we reiterated guidance in our prepared remarks.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Lastly, Fred, is there any chance with the Australian development deals from the customers that those don’t happen? And can you go a little bit more into color on kind of what the delay might be there?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. It’s just – they’re complex operations. This is the retailer’s entire supply chain for the temperature-controlled areas. So when you get into detailed design, just different things come up, different criteria come up. You get to the negotiations of commercialization and all the legal work that needs to get done, it just takes time. So we’ve gone through a number of iterations. We still are very, very bullish on this. It’s just a slide in timing. I think we pointed to even a less complex operation, like the facility that we’ve built that came up last October, the Ocean Spray cranberry warehouse in Middleborough, Massachusetts. That facility is pretty straightforward, no level of high sophistication in an un- racked building, dealing with tons of cranberries. That building was pushed an entire year, right? I mean it’s just timing of working with the customer. This is a little bit more complex, but we’re still very bullish and progressing nicely with them. So we do anticipate it’s continuing to happen, and the push out that Marc did was really just to align the capital with the needs.

Dave Rodgers

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Got you. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nate Crossett with Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Nate Crossett

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Hi. Thanks, guys. Maybe you can just remind us on your guideposts for leverage. I mean you’re currently below peers. And given the potential for more M&A, I’m just curious how you think about the leverage here. And then on the M&A front, are there are certain markets in the U.S. that you’re not in, that you want to have a bigger presence? Or maybe you can just add a little bit more color on potential M&A.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Yes, I’ll take the first half, and I’ll hand off to Fred to take the second half. So you know what we tried to be is very thoughtful about managing the balance sheet. As Fred mentioned, we have several large, active development projects going on in addition to the project in Australia ramping up next year. So we’ve been very thoughtful about how we try to manage the balance sheet to make sure that we have adequate liquidity to not only support those projects but also to continue to support the business and other opportunities with other customers and other opportunities for M&A deal. So we’re obviously very comfortable with our leverage position and our liquidity profile. We would expect, as we continue to deploy capital, that that leverage would slightly tick up because we’re going to deploy that capital in advance of the cash flows coming online. But once those cash flows come back online, they’ll help to obviously delever back down.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

And I think on the M&A front, it’s really less about going after specific markets. It’s more about how do we complement our business and deepen our penetration with our key customers and being able to fulfill their supply chain needs. So with 155 assets in the U.S., we’re pretty much in all the markets that we need to be. It’s about just continuing to gain market share and penetration with our customers.

Nate Crossett

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. That’s helpful. And then on the same-store labor cost increase year over year, it sounded like most of that was a 2Q ‘18 comp issue. Just curious, are there any other labor costs? Like are labor costs going up in the last three months? Or has it been relatively consistent? I was just trying to understand it.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. The labor environment I think that we’ve been facing has been very consistent quarter to quarter and, well, in the year to year. If you do look at that labor line, you got to look at it in relation also to the warehouse services line because they tend to be highly correlated, right? So the more services, the more labor, right?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Yes.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

And it kind of flexes at that.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Yes.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

But yes, no issues there in terms of our access to labor and labor costs themselves. We continue to work on initiatives to drive the efficiency and the scale, and that’s why we’re able to outpace our top line growth with NOI.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. And I think you saw that we achieved conversion, especially in the services segment in terms of how we expanded our margin in that segment.

Nate Crossett

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. What about just general build cost, like year to date, have those meaningfully increased? And I mean I think you’ve maintained kind of your yield guidance on developments. But are there any pressures on like build cost?

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

So I think what we see on build costs, construction costs are high – are higher we’ve seen year over year, both the price of steel and also the cost of automation at a number of our automation projects. There’s high demand for automation, not only from the temperature-control industries, but from broad warehousing industries in general. So we have seen those. Those are – have been reflected into our pricing and our discussions with what we’ve underwritten. So we’re still comfortable that we can deliver what we’ve discussed in terms of return targets for our projects.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I think that’s – you hit the nail on the head is whatever those costs are, we build that into our pricing. So we’re always capable of maintaining our margin expectations.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Bill Crow with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks. Good evening, guys.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, Bill.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

One more try on the occupancy issue. As we think about your same-store guidance for the second half of the year, or the revenue guidance and the NOI guidance, is that – is there an implicit gain in same-store year-over-year occupancy in the second half of the year?

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. There is a seasonal gain. If you look to the occupancy chart in our supplement, you’ll see there’s a seasonal build that impacts both physical occupancy every – going into the third and fourth quarter. We don’t expect this year to be any different than prior years. With that, as you said, there are different mix, there are different things but I think what we’re showing through our active portfolio management is that the team is doing a good job of converting the business that we do have and the opportunities that we are winning to stronger cash flows and NOI growth.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. So seasonal build but not necessarily same-store year-over-year build.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Well, the same store will experience the seasonal build. And so it’s just as our economic occupancy continues to take hold, during those times when the warehouses are not full, we will have less physical occupancy opportunity, if that makes sense. So I would expect that trend to continue. Again, that allows us to be more efficient in our operations, locks up, guarantees that space for our customers and creates the demand that we can use in our development cycles as well, so yes.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. All right. Two more quick questions. I think I know the answer to this one but you’re not seeing any benefit or detriment from the trade situation, right? That’s not really impacting your business at all?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. We’re not really seeing that on our side.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Not yet. We’re obviously monitoring and we pay attention, but have not seen any material impact to the business yet.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. And finally for me. Gosh, I don’t know whether it’s a month ago or so. CBRE came out with a study saying that the U.S. I think it was 100 million additional square feet of temperature-controlled storage over the next five years. I’m just curious where that would come from. We aren’t seeing any spec development still, right?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

That is correct. We honestly don’t know.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I think as you saw with Fred’s prepared remarks, we think the bigger drivers overall are going to be population growth and the trend toward healthier products that typically require a level of temperature control. We continue to see many of the large, historically, kind of vertically integrated or in-source retailers kind of outgrow their existing temperature control needs. Often, that infrastructure has been built decades ago. So we continue to see attractive opportunities for us to grow and deploy capital and support our customers. But what we’d say is the bigger driver of the overall macro will continue to be overall population growth.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. And the trend toward healthier food, so we’ll see a little bit of pick up there. I just don’t see a massive ramp in space need. I see a nice, steady increase of space needs over the next several years.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Well, speaking of healthier foods, maybe if you said that Beyond Meat was a big customer, your stock would go up.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Beyond Meat is a big customer.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

There you go.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

We do 100% of all their temperature control needs today.

Bill Cow

Analyst · Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

All right. Very Good. Thanks for the time guys. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Mueller with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Mike Mueller

Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Hi. Just a quick one on I guess development expansion returns. Looking at the SOP and looking at all the projects that are under way, they all have a generic 10% to 15% target return level on them. And I was just wondering, can you kind of walk through some of the factors that ultimately are going to decide whether a project hits a 10% or a 15% stabilized return?

Fred Boehler

Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. I mean, look, we evaluate risk associated with less complex operations that don’t have a lot of labor, for example, might be on the lower end, more complex operations, might be on the higher end. It’s really a function of the customer set that we’re trying to sell for and it just varies.

Mike Mueller

Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. And when you kick one of these off, I mean do you have a general sense it’s going to be little bit more toward the 10% or the 15%? I’m just sitting here just trying to figure out if we look at – should we be thinking of a certain facility type is going to generally end up with a higher return or a lower return? Just trying to whittle that 10% to 15% range out a little more.

Fred Boehler

Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. You can’t really do a buy facility side. It’s – there’s just so many other factors that get involved in that. And then in a major market, for example, we have a target based on who we expect to bring in there. But who actually shows up and how much volume can mix that out a little bit different. But when we do our underwriting, we have a tighter targeted range, if you will, that we’re executing to.

Marc Smernoff

Analyst · JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. And just remember, what we’re quoting here is kind of the year – it’s typically year two, which is our first year stabilized return and it tends to improve from there as we dial in the operation.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I would like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks.

Fred Boehler

Analyst

Great. Well, thanks, everyone, for joining us for our call. Again, we continue to be very bullish on this business and how it’s performing, very consistent with what we’ve stated. Hopefully, you’re seeing that in the year-to-date results, and you can look at that for the full year as we continue to execute on our plans, consistency of delivery on our acquisitions. Our integration on our acquisitions is going as planned, so we’re very excited to welcome the three new companies that joined us. That’s going very, very well. Our conversations with our customers, through that integration, as well as some other efforts, continue to be strong and favorable, and the macroeconomic trends continue to be able to support our business model. So we’re very excited about the business model and our ability to remain consistent with what we said we’re going to do. So thank you all for joining us.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference, you may disconnect your lines at this time, thank you for your participation.