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Corcept Therapeutics Incorporated (CORT)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, May 8, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Corcept Therapeutics Conference Call. My name is Anna, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Charlie Robb. Mr. Robb, you may begin.

Charles Robb

Management

Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Charles Robb, Corcept’s Chief Financial Officer. Joining me today is Dr. Joseph Belanoff, our Chief Executive Officer. Thank you all for participating in the call. Earlier today, we issued a news release giving our first quarter summary financial results and a corporate update. To get a copy of this release, go to go to corcept.com and click on Investors tab. Complete results will be available when we file our Form 10-K with the SEC. Today’s call is being recorded. A replay will be available through May 21 at 1-888-843-7419 from the United States and 1-630-652-3042 internationally. The pass code will be 39586872. Before we begin, I want to remind you that any statements during this call other than the statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that might cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. Forward-looking statements include statements regarding anticipated net revenues, the timing of clinical trials and clinical trial results, the pace of Korlym’s acceptance by physicians and patients, the pace of enrollment in or the outcome of our Phase 1/2 study of Korlym in the treatment of triple negative breast cancer and the University of Chicago Phase 1/2 study of Korlym to treat castration-resistant prostate cancer, the advancement of Core 125, 134 to Phase 2 testing, the effects of rapid technological change in competition, the protections offered by Korlym’s orphan drug designation of via our other intellectual property rights or the cost, pace and success of our other product development efforts including the preclinical development of CORT 118335. These and other risks are set forth in our SEC filings, which are available at Corcept's website and also the SEC's website. We…

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Thank you, Charlie, and thank you all for joining us. Corcept develops and commercializes medications that modulate the effects of cortisol widely known as the stress hormone. We market our first generation cortisol modulator, Korlym for the treatment of Cushing syndrome, a life threatening disease that affects approximately 20,000 patients in the United States. Our Cushing syndrome business has grown steadily since its inception in 2012 and we expect its growth to continue. We reaffirm our revenue guidance of $47 million to $53 million this year, roughly double our total for 2014. As has been true in every quarter since we first made Korlym available, the number of patients with Cushing's syndrome who take Korlym has increased as has the number of physicians who prescribe the medication. Speaking as a physician, I want to say that this increase is excellent news. Korlym has been a transforming even life saving medication for many patients. We've taken steps to reach even more patients and physicians by increasing the size of our sales force to 24 on its way to 25. Our companion group of medical science liaisons is now complete at eight. Our new personnel will complete their training soon and we look forward to their contributions in future quarters. We're confident that this greater national reach will yield substantial growth in revenues in 2015 and beyond. Our oncology development efforts made significant progress last quarter including the dosing of the first patients in the efficacy portion of our Phase 1/2 study of Korlym in combination with eribulin in women with GR positive triple-negative breast. For those of you who are not familiar with triple-negative breast cancer, let me provide some background. Triple-negative means that these patients have tumors that do not express the estrogen progesterone or HER2 receptors. So targeted treatments…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions] And we have a question from Charles Duncan from Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Roy Buchanan

Analyst

Hi, guys, it's Roy in for Charles. Thanks for taking the question. I had a question on the TNBC Phase 2. What are you guys going to consider a positive result in order to proceed to Phase 3?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Right. So again I just want to repeat what I just broke to the whole audience exactly what the study is. We're now conducting a Phase 1/2 study. The Phase 1 study was about selecting the right dose. The Phase 2 study is a 20-patient open label study where we're looking at response rate to patients who receive Korlym in combination with eribulin and that's the frame of the study. Now exactly what the response rate which will cause us to move forward is not fully determined, but please keep in mind that the response rate to eribulin alone appears to be about 10%. So a response with greater than 10% is obviously of interest and the greater it is past 10% the higher the level of interest is and we'll just have to see as these results come in.

Roy Buchanan

Analyst

Okay, that's great. And then there's been some evidence for efficacy from the checkpoint inhibitors recently in the setting. Does that change your thinking about the effication at all?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Not really it doesn’t. In fact I think that an interesting point is that we think that the GR modulation may be of utility with any other treatment which is available for triple negative breast cancer and some evidence for that is that we've now seen testing of Korlym in combination with three different chemotherapies. One was Nab-Paclitaxel, the University of Chicago's original treatment. This now is with eribulin and this also is study going on at the University of Chicago Gemcitabine and Cytoxan, and it seems, and these are early studies, to be equally effective with all those chemotherapies. So I think in the end it may in fact be a useful treatment no matter what other beneficial treatment is provided for triple negative breast cancer.

Roy Buchanan

Analyst

Okay. Any thoughts of combos with checkpoints? Everybody else is doing them.

Joseph Belanoff

Management

It's certainly something to look as we go forward. Certainly those kind of combinations are the way oncology is often treated, but we have our study in place right now and are going to go forward as it is.

Roy Buchanan

Analyst

Okay. And then last question, what's gating for the Phase 2 start of 125 134? Is it to find the indication? Do you need additional tox data?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

We actually are in the midst of completing the final tox data. Of course we have to put our package together and bring it to the FDA to get started just as a regulatory perspective, but largely it's kind of on its path to go from this point.

Roy Buchanan

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher James from FBR & Company. Please go ahead.

Christopher James

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my questions and congrats on a great quarter. Can you just maybe expand on the Korlym launch what you're hearing from physicians and patients that may be different a year or two ago? And do you see any factor from your specialty distributors, Infortel, do you see any contribution from that side of the business?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Chris, thanks for your question. I would like to introduce Sean Maduck, who is our Director of Sales, sorry, our Vice President of Sales and Marketing and let him answer the question. I think this is the first time you heard from Sean, but you'll be hearing from him more frequently in the future.

Sean Maduck

Analyst

Thanks Joe. Yes, one of the things that we've been working on over time is to continue to improve both our targeting as well as our ability to communicate the Korlym story with physicians and we continue as Joe has mentioned to reach more physicians and more patients through the shifting and improvement upon that messaging.

Christopher James

Analyst

Great, okay, and then just on the pipeline, Phase 1 data with CORT 125, is it too early to assess the potential for some of the abortafacient qualities and uterine thickening and then a quick follow-up to that, if I may.

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Well first an answer to that question, the answer is yes, this is a molecule which has no progesterone receptor activity. so one would not expect it to be abortafacient or, of course, endometrial thickening at all. Now, obviously we'll have to test that over time, but our expectation is that will be just a flat zero in terms of activity.

Christopher James

Analyst

Great. And then if you start the Phase 2 in 2016, how quickly do you think it could be approved for Cushing's syndrome, in particular?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Well I can't say with certainty, but our goal certainly is to have it approved before 2019.

Christopher James

Analyst

Great, great. And then maybe can you expand on the mechanism of action for the new compound, 118335 in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease? How do you suppose it, sort of, working there?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

We're just beginning to really look at that mechanism, but again I just want to, Chris, I think you know this, but just for the larger audience, 118335 is like our other compounds a GR antagonist. So it modulates cortisol's activity. It also doesn’t have any activity at the progesterone receptors we just discussed. For reasons that we don't fully understand at this point, it is an extremely potent metabolic compound. For instance and I know, this is not news to you. We've often looked at a model anti-psychotic induced weight gain, which is a very interesting area we hope to explore in the future and 118335 on a per milligram basis is about 60 times more potent than Korlym and Korlym itself is quite effective as it was shown in both animal and in human models. So it is a GR antagonist. We think that it's main cause of action we think that it causes lots of insulin sensitivity and we think that that's helpful, but we're really at this point at the beginning and I think several academic groups are very interested in studying it, really elucidating what all of its mechanisms are. Again it's prominent mechanism is the same as our other compounds GR antagonism, but as I pointed out, it's very interesting about these compounds if they are all worked by abiding to a nuclear receptor, they sit on the DNA and slightly different way. It's one to the next. They bring in different co-factors in the nucleus of different cells and as a consequence they change gene expression and protein production differently. And as I said, we're going to get to the bottom of exactly how it's working, but it has highly reproducible results in metabolic diseases, especially fatty liver disease.

Christopher James

Analyst

Great, thanks, Joseph. That's really helpful. I really look forward to seeing the data on that being generated.

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Good. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tazeen Ahmad from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Tazeen Ahmad

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Joe, I just wanted to elaborate a little bit more on Korlym and where you're getting most of your use. Initially, I think you have thought that most of the patients would be found more at academic centers, and has that turned out to be the case? And, if not rather, where have you found that you've been getting the biggest traction and getting patients?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Well that really wasn’t interesting learning for us because I know Tazeen as you know, our studies were primarily at academic centers and our anticipation was in fact that most of the patients would be at academic centers. But what we really found out quickly and then confirmatively, over time was that while many of these patents go to academic centers for their initial surgery if they are going to have it, they then return to wherever they lived before and if the surgery is successful, that's great, they're cured, but if isn’t successful, they become treated by their local endocrinologist. So a person who got their surgery at Mass General Hospital, there's a very fine surgeon there, he may return to Elmira, New York or Scranton, Pennsylvania. If his surgery, unfortunately doesn't succeed, they end up getting treated there. So these patients are widely scattered, that was a real learning for us and I think we've moved quickly to try to adjust to that and as I mentioned myself and it was mentioned in the press release, we now have geared up to cover all of those patients who are on our way to 25 fully covered territories and we think that in the future, that will really be a significant factor in our revenues.

Tazeen Ahmad

Analyst

Can you just remind me of how many endocrinologists there are practicing in the U.S. and just given the fact that this is a rare disease, do you think that each endocrinologist would really only be treating one or two patients?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Yes, we think that there is -- that the general group of endocrinologists that we're targeting is about 3,000 and about 1500 about half of them are what we consider top Tier for our Cushing syndrome. What's kind of interesting about that is you're absolutely right. There are many kind of ones and two out there, although I think that it's often endocrinologists have fairly large practices and they discover with some prompting that there are patients who have Cushing syndrome who are sort of undertreated in their practice or unrecognized and so ones and two sometimes turns into three, fours and fives. That said, there are also some subset of them, some endocrinologists who just have a particular interest in Cushing syndrome and are known in their community for having interest and so get referrals beyond that. And so there are a few larger prescribers than that. And frankly we want to treat every patient with Cushing syndrome who might benefit for the medication and our goal is really to target any physician who has a patient with the disease.

Tazeen Ahmad

Analyst

Okay, and then one more on Korlym, what proportion of your patients that are on drug have Cushing's syndrome as opposed to Cushing's disease?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Okay. I just want to set the context for everybody in the audience, that's a very sophisticated question. Cushing syndrome is an illness caused by excess cortisol activity. Excess cortisol activity can come from adrenal glands producing too much cortisol or it can come from an ACTH producing tumor in the pituitary gland. And so ACTH-producing tumors in the pituitary gland have the specific name of Cushing's disease. In the population as a whole about -- it's estimated that about 70% of the patients who have Cushing syndrome have Cushing's disease so pituitary producing tumors. I do not know the exact count in our group of patients, but we certainly have patients with all forms of Cushing syndrome. One thing I would like to point out is that while Cushing's disease is often recognized as essentially a tumor or in the vicinity of the brain people get it, adrenal Cushing syndrome is less well recognized and we think that this is an area of the market that is both an undertreated and under-recognized and we're really making an effort to make sure patients with that form of Cushing syndrome really do get to adequate treatment.

Tazeen Ahmad

Analyst

Okay. Great, thanks for all the color. And then one question on 118335. I'm sorry if I missed this answer already, but when are you expecting to have data in humans in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

It's really at the -- this is a compound which is very exciting in its preclinical studies including live animal studies, but it's some distance away from human studies. I would say that you would not be able to expect an IND for about 18 months.

Tazeen Ahmad

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. Thanks Joe.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Charles Duncan from Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Charles Duncan

Analyst

Hi guys. Just a follow-up on the mechanism of the second gen compound. It wasn't totally clear to me, but -- so are you talking about differential activity on the glucocorticoid receptor? Or are you talking about activity on different nuclear receptors?

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Yes let me make sure that everyone clear about this. These are all GR antagonists. So they're all competitive GR antagonists and the nuclear receptor I am referring to is the GR receptor.

Charles Duncan

Analyst

Okay. So you -- right. Got it, thank you.

Joseph Belanoff

Management

Okay.

Joseph Belanoff

Management

All right, well listen, thank you very much. Look forward to talking to you in another quarter and seeing you on the road. Bye. Bye.

Charles Robb

Management

Bye.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.