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Cementos Pacasmayo S.A.A. (CPAC)

Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 21, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Pacasmayo's Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to introduce your host for today's call, Mrs. Claudia Bustamante, Sustainability and Investor Relations Manager. Mrs. Bustamante, you may begin.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

Thank you, Jenny. Good morning, everyone. Joining me on the call today is Mr. Humberto Nadal, our Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Manuel Ferreyros, our Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Nadal will begin our call with an overview of the quarter, focusing primarily on our strategic outlook for the short and medium term. Mr. Ferreyros will then follow with additional commentary on our financial results. We'll then turn the call over to your questions. Please note that this call would include certain forward-looking statements. These statements relate to expectations, beliefs, projections, trends and other matters that are not historical facts and are therefore subject to risks and uncertainties that might affect future events or results. Descriptions of these risks are set forth in the company's regulatory filings. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Humberto Nadal.

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Thank you, Claudia. Welcome, everyone, to today's conference call, and thank you for joining us today. This quarter, we experienced some demand-side challenges as heavy rains during March and April caused a decrease in demand. Since May, we have seen a consistent decrease in our cement daily shipments, which gives us the confidence to believe that the second half of the year should be much stronger in terms of demand. It is also important to note that even though revenues were down 12.1% in the second quarter when compared to the second quarter of last year, EBITDA margin reached 25.5%, an increase of 1.5 percentage points year-over-year. This is a very clear indicator of how we are maximizing profitability by striving for efficiencies in this complex demand environment. I would like now to focus on a remarkable event that happened this quarter. As we have mentioned before, last year we launched the EcoSaco, a new technology that allows the cement bag to disintegrate completely within the concrete mix achieving 0 waste. This is a significant innovation in a country like Peru where most cement is still sold in bags, but it's also a challenging one. Most foremen have learned how to build empirically through experience that is passed on from generation to generation. Innovating in this context is indeed difficult. Moreover, many of these families put their life savings in these houses. They need to be absolutely confident that the quality properties and the final product will not be affected at all by this new technique. And this is precisely why a strong marketing campaign is so important. The EcoSaco innovation obtained the Gran Effie this quarter as well as a Gold Effie in the Innovation In Product Marketing category and a Silver Effie in the Positive Change In Environment…

Manuel Ferreyros

Analyst

Thank you, Humberto. Good morning, everyone. As Humberto mentioned, our second quarter 2023 revenues were affected by the temporary decrease in demand, reaching PEN 442 million, a 12.1% decrease when compared to the same period of last year. Gross profit also decreased but significantly less, achieving PEN 152.6 million, a 3.5% decrease when compared to the same period of last year, mainly affected by decreased sales partially offset by lower costs from decreased use of imported clinker and lower coal costs. Consolidated EBITDA was PEN 112.6 million this quarter, a 6.6% decrease when compared to the second quarter of last year. However, it is important to note that the EBITDA margin was 25.5%, a 1.5 percentage point increase when compared to the second quarter of last year. For the first 6 months of the year, results followed a similar trend. Revenues decreased 10.3%, gross profit only 3% and EBITDA 5.9%, when compared to the same period of 2022. EBITDA margin during this period was 25.3%, an improvement of 1.2 percentage points compared to the same period of last year. Turning to operating expenses. Administrative expenses for the second quarter of 2023 increased 6.2% compared to the same period of last year and 7.2% during the first 6 months of the year when compared to the same period of 2022, mainly due to the increase in wage in line with inflation as well as an increased donation as a result of the cyclone Yaku. Selling expenses decreased 7.6% in the second quarter of 2023 and 2.4% in the 6 months of 2023 compared to the same period of last year, respectively, mainly due to the increase in personnel expenses basically because of variable salaries in line with decreased sales as well as a decreased advertising and promotion expenses. Moving on to…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions].

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Operator, since we have no questions on the floor, we're going to go to the questions in the -- on the web.

Operator

Operator

Yes. Perfect.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

I'll start with a question from Francisco Suarez. Congrats on advancing in your production integration, namely improving clinker capacity. Two questions: the first one, any plans to add a new grinding unit in your Pacasmayo plant to reduce further kilowatt hour per ton? And the second one, can you tell us on spending related to reconstruction efforts in Northern Peru and the creation of resilient infrastructure to cope for more climate volatility in the future?

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Thank you, Francisco, for your comments. On your two questions, we have no intention of adding grinding capacity. As a matter of fact, we have more than enough. As you well know, I mean, we always want to lower clinker factors or usually our grinding capacity is ahead of our clinker capacity. At this point, as a company, can dispatch 5 million tons. And the two grinding facilities, which is grind number six and number seven in Pacasmayo, they were built around 2009, 2010 so are pretty modern. So the question [indiscernible]. And the second question...

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

Infrastructure.

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Infrastructure. Yes, Yesterday, President Boluarte signed official recreation of the national authority of our infrastructure, which is, I think, a huge step in the right direction. This is a very interesting position because it will not be politically appointed. It has a lot to do with a long-term vision. So I'm sure with that and with all the things that we are seeing over the last 3, 4 weeks, or the authorities preparing for El-Nino, we are very confident that the second semester will show better numbers in terms of volumes. As a matter of fact, if you see our daily sales, we've been -- we have seen a consistent improvement over the last 3 or 4 weeks, and I think this will be reinforced by the spending of the local and national authorities in the coming months.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

The next question is about -- from [indiscernible]. How much is the cost of coal in -- as a percentage of your own clinker?

Manuel Ferreyros

Analyst

The percentage of the cost of the coal, it's approximately 14%.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

And then regarding the EcoSaco, is there any difference between the gross margin of this product with other products? And also what's the share of the EcoSaco within our...

Manuel Ferreyros

Analyst

No, basically, there is no additional cost -- well, additional cost is minimum because the only difference is the cost of the bag. So it's basically the same -- cement.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

And then the next question comes from 3 questions. So first, Pacasmayo has dispersed PEN 160 million in the first half, which is well above historical levels. Could you guys give me more color regarding the main investments the company has made so far in 2023 that justify the increase?

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Yes. I think the fundamentally is, I mean, clinker number 4, like I said in my speech, we spent around $80 million to put it into production. And this is an extraordinary CapEx event. After that, I mean, we have no -- nothing in the horizon except the normal sustaining CapEx.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

The second question. After the full ramp up of kiln number 4, what can be expected to be sustainable margins in the medium to long term?

Manuel Ferreyros

Analyst

The sustainable EBITDA margin in the medium term should be around between 26% and 27% -- sorry, but it will depend on how much...

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

How much ready mix.

Manuel Ferreyros

Analyst

How much ready mix we sell. If the ready mix increases, obviously, the margin goes down. But at the absolute EBITDA that it may goes up.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

And then finally, we've [indiscernible] to affect the country by the end of the year. So could we expect better cement demand in the third quarter as a result of preventive public and private investment improvement?

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Absolutely. I mean we're already seeing that over the last weeks, regional government is trying to get up to par with El-Nino preventive measures. So yes, I think whether El-Nino happens or not is something we don't know. We are not clear at this moment or the strength of it, we're not clear, but we are seeing a lot of investment in terms of preventive works.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

Short-term debt seems high for this year. Cash in hand doesn't seem enough. Please could you explain a little more about how are you going to overcome it?

Manuel Ferreyros

Analyst

Yes. Basically, the short term that we've acquired has been for the Pacasmayo's new kiln, but this is a very small amount. It's only PEN 100-and-something million. And we will -- should prepaid during the next 6 months.

Claudia Bustamante

Analyst

That's all the questions we have from the webcast. So I'll hand it over to Humberto for closing remarks.

Humberto Nadal

Analyst

Thank you, Claudia. Pacasmayo has been operating in Peru for over 65 years. And throughout this time, we have seen demand periodically fluctuate affecting our short-term financial results. However, our strategic model allows us to be ready to take on the market when conditions improve, focusing on those things that generate long-term value. We strongly believe the successful adoption of digital transformation and a culture of innovation and sustainability are those drivers that will lead us toward sustained value generation. The success of these measures is highly reliant on people's compromise and active participation, and we are absolutely confident that we have the best talent to achieve it. I would like to thank everybody for the renewed interest in our company. And as always, Manuel, Claudia and myself will remain here should you have any further questions. Thank you very much and have a great weekend.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, everybody. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.