Yes. So the 2 parts of your question, the revenue from the Phase 1 is relatively small. Those are typically $200,000 of funding. Could be $150,000, it could be $250,000, but it’s typically in that range, normally a Phase 2 amount of funding for an SBIR would be. Whereas the Phase 1 of, say, $250,000 might be over a 9-month period, Phase 2 would typically be more around the range of $1.1 million or $1.2 million to fund research over a period of 24 months. That’s what’s most typical from the DoD and DOE. So on the revenue side, it’s nice revenue, but it’s mostly -- the value to us is to fund that future growth. The timing of that, to translate that into what would be considered a Phase 3 or a commercial effort with funding from literally customers buying those products, is going to depend on the success of the Phase 2 and the interest. The nice thing about the DoD is they’re typically funding that research because they have a real need. And if you can get to the finish line, technically, the ideal outcome is that they’re ready to purchase and you’re going to be scaling up volume to meet those needs. And of course, that’s going to depend on the application and what the technology is that we’re working on. So it’s difficult to project the revenue, but the nice thing about that SBIR with the DoD is, again, it’s a need that they have but it also comes with the intellectual property that’s developed under that program, which remains the company’s property even though it was funded by the Department of Defense, and it also eliminates the need for future competition. So typically, the DoD contracting [ offer ] is going to say we need competitive bids to make sure we’re getting competitive pricing, and the response to that is that the original SBIR proposal was a competitive bid during Phase 1. And the reward for the small business of succeeding in its technical development is the singular ownership of that intellectual property for many, many years after that.