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America's Car-Mart, Inc. (CRMT)

Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, May 22, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for holding and welcome to America’s Car-Mart’s Fourth Quarter 2015 Conference Call. The topic of this call will be the earnings and operating results for the Company’s fiscal fourth quarter 2015. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available for replay for the next 30-days. The dial-in number and access information are included in last night’s press release, which can be found on America’s Car-Mart’s website at www.car-mart.com. As you all know, some of management’s comments today may include forward-looking statements, which inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from management’s present view. These statements are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The Company cannot guarantee the accuracy of any forecast or estimates, nor does it undertake any obligation to update such forward-looking statement. For more information regarding forward-looking information, please see Item 1 of Part 1 of the Company’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended April 30, 2015 and its current Quarterly Reports furnished to or filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Forms 8-K and 10-Q. Participating on this call this morning are Hank Henderson, the Company’s Chief Executive Officer and President; and Jeff Williams, Chief Financial Officer. And now, I’ll turn the call over to the Company’s Chief Executive Officer, Hank Henderson.

William Henderson

Management

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. As you can see in our press release we had solid top-line growth for the quarter of 12.2% over last year same time. Unit sales were up 10.7% for the quarter and 9.9% for the year. And those of you who have been following us for a long time understand the importance of our growth in active customers and how that's a key factor for continued growth and future sales. And I am very pleased to report that for the year we gained close to 5,000 active customers, putting us now over 64,000. In our fourth quarter last year, sales had fallen off a bit at the end of the quarter, so our team was fully committed to ensuring we did not let that happen this year, and they did not disappoint. So, it was both a solid quarter and a solid year for sales, and perhaps even more impressive when you consider it is still a fiercely competitive field out there. While we did finish with losses flat or actually even down a bit year-to-year we were not pleased with where we ended. We know we had more room for improvement with regard to collections and losses than we achieved. We think perhaps with our added focus on sales we may have taken our eye off the ball somewhat and not stayed on top of our collections at every location as well as we know we are capable, so that is without question our top priority as we began this new year. All-in-all it was a good year with some areas we were extremely pleased and some others where we know we could have done better, but I suppose never being completely satisfied and always looking harder where…

Jeff Williams

Management

Yes, thank you Hank. As mentioned total revenues were up 12.2% with same-store revenues up 7.5% for the quarter. As we mentioned in our third quarter call, we were expecting a top line improvement for the fourth quarter compared to the last year and we were certainly happy to see the nice growth. Revenues from stores in the 10-plus year category was up little over 3%, stores in the five to ten-year category was up around 11% and revenues for stores in a less than five years of age category was up around 49% to about $36 million. The overall average retail units sold per month per lot for the quarter was 28.1 up 4.5% from 26.9 for the fourth quarter of last year and up slightly from 28 sequentially. At the end of the quarter 46 or 33% of our dealerships were from zero to five years old, 21% or 15% were from five years to 10 years old with the remaining 74 dealerships being 10 years old or older. Our 10-plus year lots produced 29.3 units sold per month for the quarter compared to 29.4 for the prior year. That’s a slight decrease of 0.2%, our 21 lots in the five to 10 year category produced 28.3, compared to 26.8, a 5.6% increase and the lots less than five years of age category produced 26, compared to 21.9 for the fourth quarter of last year, that’s an 18.7% increase. Sequentially these younger lots were up about 2% from 25.4 for the third quarter of this year. Competition is still intense and we will continue to focus our efforts on customer retention, earning repeat business and offering good quality vehicles that are affordable under rational terms. As we previously discussed our new 12 month service contract has had the…

William Henderson

Management

All right, thanks, Jeff. We finished the year with a 141 locations we opened two new stores in Oklahoma, two in Georgia and one each in Kentucky, Alabama and Tennessee. So we did successfully spread out the openings very effectively not loading up any single region. We would also hope to have another new opening in Missouri prior to the year end that had a couple of delays so actually that one should be opening up this next month. We do have several other projects already in the works for this upcoming year and are very excited to announce that we will be adding a new state this year we have secured a great new location in Burlington, Iowa and are already scouting out a few other towns in the area. In the past five years we’ve opened 45 new locations and as a group they are off to an excellent start. If we continue for the next five years on the same growth pace we will have 200 stores in the year 2020 and that is a number we are using for all of our over long-term planning around here. We are confident that we have the systems and processes to support this level of growth. Our task, or challenge rather is to develop the people for this and to do so in a way that is consistent with our value that have gotten us to this point. So that concludes our prepared remarks. So we would now like to move on to your questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Elizabeth Suzuki from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your question please?

Elizabeth Suzuki

Analyst

Good morning, guys. What do you think are the biggest factors that are leading to the increase in accounts over 30 days past due, and difficulties in principal collections? Has there been a shift in the average credit quality of your customers? Or what have your store managers been saying about trends that they're seeing in their customer base?

William Henderson

Management

No, I think the real answer really has to do with execution and I say that because we can see the comparisons from store to store, area to area, region to region and so forth and we do actually have a particular couple of regions that we can see that from the stores within them or actually their collections are in excellent shape I think. As I mentioned earlier we did have probably more focus than usual on the sales side as we finished out as you know that then we do at the local level or collections and sales are all very integrated and I think it had to do with execution quite frankly. So it’s a kind of good news or bad news we should have done better but the reality is this is something I think that is within our control to fix. Yes, and we’re disappointed with where we finished out the year there.

Elizabeth Suzuki

Analyst

Okay. Are you seeing any real negative impact in your Texas and Oklahoma stores from the decline in oil, or does it seem like lower gas prices are more of a net positive for your customers?

William Henderson

Management

Again I don't think that really the factors we’re seeing macro factors really affecting our collections that much in those areas specifically because even within those areas we have some stores outperforming the others quite frankly. And if we saw it all the way across the board then I would – we would probably tend to think that, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Elizabeth Suzuki

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. Last quarter, you mentioned that you thought your competitors were starting to act more rationally, and were getting a little less aggressive in their financing offers and incentives. Was there any continuation of that rationalization this past quarter, or does it seem like it's kind of turning back and getting more competitive?

Jeff Williams

Management

I would say that we’re probably at the same place we were three months ago in terms of the competitive outlook, anecdotally we think we’re getting a little bit of relief there, but when you talk to the guys in the field there is still plenty of competition, if anything it’s just been a slight marginal improvement and certainly things aren’t getting any worse or any more aggressive. So we haven't seen any huge changes from the update from three months ago.

Elizabeth Suzuki

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Jeff Williams

Management

Thank you.

William Henderson

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Hecht from Jefferies. Your question please.

John Hecht

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Thanks very much. The first question is I guess 45 dealerships under five years old. I think you referred to the growth rate of that vintage. What is the kind of growth expectations for that right now?

Jeff Williams

Management

Well, the productivity was 26 for the quarter, that’s up quite a bit from last year. I think more than anything they were just underperforming for the fourth quarter of last year, sequentially it was up just a little bit that those dealerships are in some really good talents and we got some really good folks leading the charge in the management side in the field for those dealerships. So 26 is the productivity number and we are hoping to show some decent improvements on that as we grow.

John Hecht

Analyst

You mentioned it's 26, up from a somewhat depressed fourth quarter last year. If you kind of tried to normalize, in your opinion, what the fourth quarter been last year, what would the year-over-year rate of growth been in that vintage?

Jeff Williams

Management

Yes, we were unusually low under 22 I think was the number last year so that was too low maybe more normal would have been about 24, so apples-to-apples it should have been more or like a 24 to 26 for that.

John Hecht

Analyst

Okay. Jeff, you mentioned – you talked about severity rates under pressure; it's not a frequency issue. What's your outlook for severity rates? What's your opinion on the used car market? Is it stabilizing? Is there further downside? How should we think about that?

Jeff Williams

Management

Now, we are hoping it stays flat; we’ve seen such a drop off in the last couple of years especially more recently that we’ve really got hammered with those values we’re thinking it may have reached bottom here and it won’t get any worse, but it certainly has had a big negative effect on credit losses but I think our expectations are that it’s kind of bottomed out at this point.

John Hecht

Analyst

Okay. You spoke about that the increase or the change in the service contract helped drive up the average price, and that's rolled through. Any outlook on your ability to increase or decrease your average price, or should we just think about it being flat going forward?

William Henderson

Management

Yes, as we’ve talked about many times our goal is to keep as affordable as we can and it’s always forever been that question of the cost versus quality. So our goal is to keep the quality where it is and keep that price as flat as possible.

John Hecht

Analyst

Okay, and then final question. Obviously, you guys, over time, have been an active repurchaser. Just looking over the last four or five quarters, it's kind of ranged from a few thousand to over 100,000 in any particular quarter. In terms of modeling forward for purchases, do you have any thoughts on the pace of repurchases or where you might go with that?

Jeff Williams

Management

We are always looking at it opportunistically and balancing what other options we have for deploying capital and we certainly believe in the long-term value of the company and feel like we are going to continue to be stock repurchasers. We’re always trying to balance that against any other needs that might come up.

John Hecht

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

William Henderson

Management

Thanks, John.

Jeff Williams

Management

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of J.R. Bizzell from Stephens. Your question please.

J.R. Bizzell

Analyst

Yes, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Hitting again on collection, I know that's something that we've already talked about a few times, but just wondering, is it as simple as just making them refocus on the collection? Because, clearly, sales have improved because that was a focus I'm just wondering, do you view this collection change and this refocusing on that to be a pretty simple fix? Is it something that you think is just a matter of refocusing the general manager and the team?

William Henderson

Management

Yes, for the most part it is. And I will give a little bit more clarity on that. In addition over the past couple of years with regard to the addition of the GPS devices we’ve got more strict on our procedures with as we beefed up some of our compliance systems. So we have had some procedural changes with regard to our collections so it has been a little bit of learning adjustment. As you know we got many managers that have been around for many, many years and it has been and sometimes retraining is can be a little bit more challenging than just the training aspect. So there have been some minor changes to our procedures, so I think that has had some effect, but yes it is the heart of what we do, it’s one of our strengths is that our sales and collections are so highly integrated at the local level that, at the same time, sometimes that’s also one of our challenges and I think we experience some of that. So we went through a competitive time past couple of years with regard to sales and I think that did cause us to shift a little more of our energies over to that side. And this is a balance. So yes, I think as we are going into this year we’re certainly stepping up the collections back to the priority of everyday business that it should be. So I think that is our biggest answer.

J.R. Bizzell

Analyst

Okay. And I know last quarter we kind of discussed this, Hank, but just wondering, you had some general management turnover - saw a little increase, if I remember correctly. And just wondering if you think that had something to do with kind of that collection shift? And just wondering, have you seen kind of a slowdown given the sales increases around that General Manager turnover?

William Henderson

Management

Well, that’s a excellent question. As you go back two years ago to the prior year we have had high turnover. So that means we did have a number of newer managers and that will certainly have an effect, there is no question about that. I am pleased to say that this past year that we just ended, we dramatically improved that and so as those guys stay with us and come a little more seasoned again that’s a very good question, because that’s what we talk about here, having been through this most recent year being much better with regards to turnover our expectations is that’s going to have a very positive effect on our collections going forward this year.

J.R. Bizzell

Analyst

Great. And then last one from me, and I know you spoke you've got 84% of the system with the GPS now. You're continuing to see that age well. You're continuing to see them utilize and better use that product. And I think, last conference call we spoke to just the fact that you could actually find the asset was the key. Just wondering how you're thinking about that moving forward, when we should start to see that maybe benefit more so than just finding the asset.

William Henderson

Management

We feel we have a lot of work to do there in that regard. I would tell you and obviously as we’ve talked recently we’ve actually – we’ve more people now or more of our vehicles out there with the GPS device on it, yes we’re seeing a slight uptick not an improvement. So we’re disappointed, we’ve made a big investment in our GPS and we are not – we don’t feel like we have realized the use of that, the way we should. Hopefully now with another year under our belt, we are getting better at it and we’ll use it better going forward, but I would say that this investment has been a bit of a disappointment for us.

J.R. Bizzell

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for taking my question guys.

William Henderson

Management

Thanks.

Jeff Williams

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Bill Armstrong from C.L. King & Associates. Your question please.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Good morning, Hank and Jeff. I know that the collections issue is mostly execution-related, but tax refunds from the IRS through April 30 was down about 1% versus a year ago. Do you think that might have had anything to do with it, either with collections or with the lower average down payment that you experienced?

Jeff Williams

Management

No, I don't think it really had much of an effect with our customer, I think maybe a few of our customers were affected by the healthcare penalty and maybe a few had some refunds affected by some estimated income amounts that ended up being different, but it wasn't a large percentage. As far as the down payment being a little bit lower I think we’re just really conservative the fourth quarter of last year in that 9.7% that we’re comparing to was just higher than normal.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

And in terms of kind of having a focus on sales, and maybe a less of a focus on collections during the quarter, how did that work? Did you guys provide some sort of incentive to your store-level people to drive more sales, and maybe that kind of shifted their attention away from collections? And then, how would you get them back to focusing on collections?

William Henderson

Management

I think it’s pretty basic management it’s what’s talk about the most where our focus lies and I think as you said we kind of rallied the troops going into the last quarters. We fell off at the end of April or in April of last year that we are not going to have a repeat of that and I think that we where a lot of the focus was across the board. There wasn’t any – we always have various sales incentives going on, it’s certainly all of our – as you know Bill, our managers are compensated also the bottom line of the stores. So they are no more heavily compensated on the sales side and on the collections side. And I think it was just matter of overall focus.

Jeff Williams

Management

As Hank mentioned Bill, 45 new dealerships for us to really get a handle on manager turnover for these guys to go through one or two tax seasons and learn to sell and collect at the same – a part of it is keep these managers in place is going to get much better over time.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Got it. Okay and on the GPS, you mentioned today, and I think you mentioned before, too, that you'd like to get that cost down to about $3 per car, per month. What levers do you have or what ability do you have to actually get those costs lower? I assume you're leasing these units at some fixed cost, so how can you lower the cost of that?

Jeff Williams

Management

It’s all operational, it's the reusing the units when you have a trade back, when you have repossessed cars, it's really being aggressive on pulling those units out reusing them elsewhere and then maximizing the life on the product. We’ve got some definite room for improvement there.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Right and they're in about 84% of the vehicles now. What was that percentage a year ago? Do you have that?

Jeff Williams

Management

I don’t have that in front of me. It was 80% last quarter I don't know what it was a year ago.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Okay. That's all I had. Thanks.

William Henderson

Management

Thank you, Bill.

Jeff Williams

Management

Thanks. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I’m not showing any further questions at this time. I’d like to turn the program back to management for any further remarks.

William Henderson

Management

Okay, we thank you all for joining us today and as we think we may clear our focus here will be on our collections. So we’ll get back to work. Thank you all and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you ladies and gentlemen for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.