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CSW Industrials, Inc. (CSW)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 3, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the CSW Industrials Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Alexa Huerta, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Alexa Huerta

Analyst

Thank you, Rocco. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the CSW Industrials Fiscal 2024 Second Quarter Earnings Call. Joining me today is Joseph Armes, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President of CSW Industrials; and James Perry, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We issued our earnings release, updated Investor Relations presentation and Form 10-Q prior to the market's opening today, all of which are available on the Investors portion of our website at www.cswindustrials.com. This call is being webcast and information on accessing the replay is included in the earnings release. During this call, we will make forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Actual results could materially differ because of factors discussed today in our earnings release in the comments made during this call as well as the risk factors identified in our annual report on Form 10-K and other filings with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to Joe.

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Thank you, Alexa. Good morning, everyone. Our team continues to outperform the markets we serve and deliver impressive results against strong prior year period results. Our second quarter results demonstrate our ability to leverage our robust distributor relationships, drive operational execution, and prudently manage expenses. This morning, we announced record second quarter revenue of $204 million, record second quarter earnings per diluted share of $1.93 and record second quarter EBITDA of $53 million. We also continued to deliver outstanding operating leverage as EBITDA grew 21% on 7% growth in revenue with equally impressive EBITDA margin expansion of 300 basis points to 26%.We also announced record first half results and revenue of $407 million and earnings per diluted share of $3.90 and an EBITDA of $107 million. For the second quarter in a row, we delivered outstanding cash flow from operations with a record fiscal second quarter total of $45 million. This led to a paydown of $37 million of borrowings under our revolving credit facility in the second quarter and an $80 million paydown for the first half of this fiscal year reducing our interest expense and providing us significant flexibility to pursue future opportunities as they arise. As we mentioned on our recent earnings calls, the cost of ocean freight has returned to more normal levels in the last few quarters. Since the beginning of fiscal 2024, we have also reduced our domestic freight expense and driven additional operational efficiencies versus the prior year. As we continue to staff for growth and retain our exceptional employees, we are experiencing increased compensation expenses. The amortization of intangible assets has also increased as a result of recent acquisitions. By successfully implementing a solid pricing strategy across all three segments and with our gross margin savings from freight expenses, we have been…

James Perry

Analyst

Thank you, Joe, and good morning, everyone. During the fiscal year-to-date period, we delivered a record first half revenue of $407 million, representing growth of 4.1%. Operating leverage on this growth drove 14.9% growth in EBITDA and 12.9% growth in earnings per diluted share. Our consolidated revenue during the fiscal second quarter of 2024 was $204 million, a 6.5% increase as compared to the prior year period. This growth was driven by pricing actions, a slight increase in unit volumes due to the late summer heat wave in certain markets across the U.S. and inorganic revenue contribution from the Falcon acquisition last year. Consolidated gross profit in the fiscal second quarter was $91 million, representing 12.8% growth with the incremental profit resulting from revenue growth from pricing actions and lower inbound and outbound freight costs. Gross profit margin improved to 44.7% compared to 42.2% in the prior year period from revenue growth in the higher margin Contractor Solutions segment due to pricing initiatives combined with lower freight costs as compared to a year ago. Consolidated EBITDA increased by $9 million to $53 million or 21% growth when compared to the prior year period. Our EBITDA margin improved to 26% as compared to 23% in the prior year quarter, driven by revenue growth and gross margin expansion, partially offset by incremental employee expenses. This margin growth demonstrates the operating leverage we strive for as we focus on managing expenses while we grow revenue. Net income attributable to CSWI in the fiscal second quarter was $30 million or $1.93 per diluted share compared to $24 million or $1.57 per diluted share in the prior period, representing growth of 23%. The current quarter included increased amortization expense from intangible assets as a result of last fiscal year's acquisitions and Contractor Solutions. Our Contractor…

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Thank you, James. To summarize, during the second fiscal quarter of 2024, we once again delivered record results, highlighted by both organic and inorganic revenue growth, expanded margins and robust cash flow. While there is uncertainty in certain key end markets, we still expect to outperform the markets we serve and to deliver consolidated revenue and earnings growth in the second half of fiscal 2024 against strong prior year period results. We remain focused on leveraging our strong distributor relationships gaining efficiencies through operational excellence and prudently managing costs. We have and will continue to work to expand margins and to drive cash flow conversion. Consistent with our demonstrated track record, we will allocate capital according to our risk-adjusted returns discipline enabled by the strength of our balance sheet. This approach has led to consistent outstanding financial results and we do not intend to deviate from that strategy. Our stated goal is to be the partner of choice for our loyal customers, making it as easy as possible to do business with CSWI. In October, we were named HVAC Supplier of the Year by affiliated distributors, which is one of the largest customer organizations in our Contractor Solutions segment. This award is given to only one out of hundreds of suppliers based on direct feedback regarding availability of products, delivery times, ease of doing business, product innovation and other important metrics gathered from actual customers. This award is the latest in a series of such awards our team has received this year and demonstrates our commitment to serving our customers well. I'm extremely, extremely proud of the Contractor Solutions team for their continued success. As always, I want to close by thanking all my colleagues here at CSWI, who collectively own approximately 5% of CSWI through our employee stock ownership plan as well as all of our shareholders for your continued interest in and support of our company. With that, Rocco, we're ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Today's first question comes from Jonathan Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Peter Lukas

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. It's Pete Lukas for Jon. Just wondering if you could talk a little bit about what you're seeing in terms of HVAC distributor destocking in the quarter if you've seen any? And do you think that inventories in the channel are rightsized at this point? Or is your sell-through in line with end demand?

James Perry

Analyst

Good morning. It's James. I appreciate you being on the call. We obviously have a lot of customer conversations and contact. The destocking continue, probably some. The OEMs and the distributors have mentioned some of the same. I think it has certainly decelerated. We had our fiscal first quarter, the April, May, June quarter, with the slow start to the summer, they built up the inventory and worked through quite a bit of that with the really strong second quarter. And then obviously, as you end the second quarter kind of the September month, people start working down the seasonality and then ramping back up. And you see it in our inventory. Our inventory came down quite a bit from March to September as we kind of went through the summer season. Now we'll start ramping back up, getting ready for the busy selling season in the spring. So overall destocking, our sell-through, we feel very good about. We get good feedback on our sell-through rates. The fact that our volumes had a slight increase in the quarter, while most folks said that residential HVAC was still down low to mid single digits, it is a very positive sign in that respect and as Joe said, we continue to outperform the market.

Peter Lukas

Analyst

Very helpful. Thanks. And can you just discuss maybe some of the bigger moving parts you're seeing today in terms of input segment or end market and your ability to pass through those in terms of pricing?

James Perry

Analyst

Sure. I think a lot of the costs have started to stabilize. We talked a lot a year ago, 2 years ago about ocean freight. Obviously, we ship a lot of containers over here from our Vietnam facility and other third-party outsourced suppliers we have. And those rates have come back down to good historical levels and have been relatively stable. They still bounce around some. The ocean freight carriers look to raise rates, but the demand has been a little bit soft. So we've been able to stabilize that and are pleased with where that's been. Similarly, trucking rates bounce around quite a bit with the cost of diesel here domestically. We ship things to our customers and between our own distribution centers. So that bounces around. It stabilized and looks for now. But with oil prices up, you watch that very carefully. Overall raw material costs have generally been pretty stable in the Contractor Solutions segment, I would say, things like steel, aluminum and resins. Within the Specialized Reliability Solutions segment, however, with oil prices up around $90 a barrel, obviously, base oil is a big component for a lot of the input costs there. So we have seen some increase in that space and, in fact, have raised prices recently to cover that and put through a price increase just in the last few weeks. Overall, though, our pricing has been stable. We've been able to hold on to our pricing. We will go through our normal annual look at pricing in the spring as we always do with our businesses, and that's expected, especially in the Contractor Solutions segment, but we have been able to maintain pricing. Overall, we've been able to see input costs stable, the one thing I'll mention, you heard us mention a couple of times, labor costs tend to be up a bit to attract and especially retain, as Joe said, our exceptional talent. There's a cost to that. As I'm sure you know, we've got pretty high compensation costs in terms of the benefits we provide with our ESOP plan. Every employee gets company stock each year that we pay for and [indiscernible] plan. Every employee is on an incentive plan. So we treat our employees very well. That's one of our key tenets of our culture. And so we have seen a rise a bit in employee cost, but to keep the talent we have to be able to meet the demand that's an investment [indiscernible].

Peter Lukas

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you. And then could you also just give us a little more color on the drivers of the higher sequential corporate expense?

James Perry

Analyst

I think just overall, I think compensation expense is part of this, as I mentioned, as the company grows, you've got to cover that growth to some degree, the acquisitions we've done, the organic growth we've done, nothing unusual in the corporate line, I would say, just kind of general growth with the overall company growth [ph].

Peter Lukas

Analyst

Perfect. Thanks. And then just the last one for me. You talked about your M&A strategy being unchanged and still seeing a pipeline of opportunities, but looking to allocate on a risk-adjusted basis. Just wondering, are you seeing just more or less opportunities given the higher cost of capital and hurdle rate? Or just in general, what are you seeing out there?

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Yes, Pete, this is Joe. I don't know that we are seeing a lot different level of activity. Certainly, our hurdle rates have risen as a result of the higher cost of capital. We've always had a really high hurdle rate to begin with, right, from the standpoint of our margins. We really don't want to dilute our margins. We have a really high-value products that we offer to customers. And so our opportunity set, I think, continues to be robust, and we're pleased with that. And we tend to respond well in tougher markets because we've got a stronger balance sheet than others, allows us to move with speed and certainty and provide that to sellers. As you may recall, our largest and most successful acquisition to date, TRUaire, was done in the middle of the pandemic. And we did that on our balance sheet because we had the liquidity and the available capital to do that. And so -- so we are optimistic.

Peter Lukas

Analyst

Extremely helpful. Thanks for your time and I will jump back in the queue.

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question today comes from Julio Romero with Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Hey, good morning, Joe, James, Alexa. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe to start on the Contractor Solutions segment. I was particularly impressed by the increase in the unit volumes there, and you called out that some of that might be attributable to a warm summer, maybe what's your best guess as to what the impact of that late summer heat wave was on the volume in the quarter? Or maybe thinking about it another way, how are unit volumes trending in the periods not affected by that heat wave?

James Perry

Analyst

Yes. I think if you look at the last several quarters -- Julio, this is James. And again, appreciate you being on with us. Yes, in the last several quarters, we've talked about volumes being slightly down. We've never called out large decreases. The comps have been hard after a couple of really strong years 2021, even '22 were pretty strong and this fiscal year, so we are up against some tough comps. The comps have maybe gotten a little bit better. But overall, our team is doing a great job by picking up new customers, by picking up market share and wallet share. And again, when the OEMs and distributors talked about, they're still seeing residential down low single digits, and that's better than low mid teens or mid teens to high single digits. Overall, though, we feel good about that. And we talked about that in the last call. We were already a month into it and July was looking hot, August stayed hot, September stayed hot. So we certainly picked that up. As part of that, obviously, the [indiscernible] and we called that out specifically because it was a late start to the summer and when people are on their air conditioner 24 hours a day instead of 10 or 12 hours a day, that certainly creates more maintenance work, more repair work and even replacement, which is a positive tailwind for us. So we are pleased to have turned that from a slight negative to a slight positive. But I think as much as anything, it's our team out there selling more to new customers, a little bit of benefit from the acquisition, as we talked about. Falcon is the only one that's considered inorganic and that will turn organic again after this next quarter here in Q3. That will be organic. But overall, really pleased, and I want to highlight, too, the margin growth, to see the inflation we've had the last few years, to see even just slight unit volume growth, which we are very proud and pleased with that team to see margin growth like we've had of a few hundred basis points year-over-year is really impressive.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Okay. That's good color there. I appreciate that. And maybe talk to the timing of this HVAC residential volume normalization. How would you have us think about how that cadence kind of plays out over the next few quarters?

James Perry

Analyst

Well, yes, we are entering, obviously, the slower quarter. As you all know, our fiscal third quarter here through December is the slower selling season because air conditioners aren't being run as much, obviously in most of the country, and then we'll start stocking up. And our fourth quarters, when we see things ramp back up, no one can fully predict what next year looks like economically. The interest rate environment has clearly put some pressure on some of that. But as we talked about earlier, from the question that Pete asked and as you've seen out in the market, everyone seems to think that destocking has decelerated and the destocking is generally kind of done by the end of this calendar year. And like I said, we are working the stock back up. We were just with our Contractor Solutions team, Joe, Alexa and I were in the last couple of weeks looking at their inventory and what we need to stock up to be sure we are ready for the busy selling season that really gets going in February, March again. So we are optimistic about next year. And we talked about second half growth overall for the company, and obviously, Contractor Solutions is a big engine to that. We are not forecasting anything for fiscal '25 yet, but I would certainly say that we are optimistic on our ability to continue to introduce innovative products, continue to win more market share, continue to penetrate and win more customers with more of our products. And then as Joe mentioned, also find acquisitions that can continue to fuel growth.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Got it. Really good color there. Maybe just turning to the Specialized Reliability Solutions segment. Maybe if you could talk about the end markets that you called out that we are seeing some softening. Maybe give us a flavor of the magnitude of the softening. And do you see demand for those markets kind of continuing to trend that way or maybe stabilizing anytime soon?

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Julio. I think it's at the margin. We don't see large changes. Interestingly, the rig count domestically is down, while production rates are not down that much. The rig count is down. But international rig count is up, Canadian rig count is up. And so mix signals there. Mining and rail has been a little bit slower, and we are seeing some of that through the JV and so it's -- none of it's alarming. It's just at the margin, and we would expect normal variations throughout the year. There's a little bit of seasonality in some of those end markets, but nothing that's alarming at all.

Julio Romero

Analyst

What would you maybe attribute some of that softening? Is it just the general economic uncertainty, higher interest rates or anything of that nature?

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Yes, I think so. Yes, I mean a lot of uncertainty. It is -- people are not committing a lot of capital right now to larger projects due to higher interest rates and uncertainty of what the future holds. And so I think that's a little bit of slowdown to be expected.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Got it. And then maybe just last one for me on that segment. With the deferral of some of the CapEx you're doing, does that change the timing of when Phase 3 comes online?

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Well, it could. I think that our commitment to our shareholders all along has been to invest on a risk-adjusted returns basis. And so that presupposes that we are going to have demand for that capital investment. And so as we have said a couple of quarters now that the ramp up has been a little slower than anticipated, and so the capital is going to be a little slower than anticipated. We need to fully utilize the existing capacity before we add more. And we just think that's the prudent thing to do and good stewardship of our investors' capital.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Very good. Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate it.

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Thanks, Julio.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to the management team for closing remarks.

Joseph Armes

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Rocco. We sure appreciate everyone joining us today and look forward to our next conversation next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines, and have a wonderful day.