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Culp, Inc. (CULP)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 1, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Culp, Inc. First Quarter Fiscal 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Dru Anderson. Please go ahead.

Dru Anderson

Analyst

Good morning and welcome to the Culp conference call to review the company's results for the first quarter of fiscal 2023. As we start, let me state that this morning's call will contain forward-looking statements about the business, financial condition, and prospects of the company. Forward-looking statements are statements that include projections, expectations, or beliefs about future events or results or otherwise are not statements of historical fact. The actual performance of the company could differ materially from that indicated by the forward-looking statements because of various risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are described in our regular SEC filings, including the company's most recent filings on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements made today and each such statement speaks only as of today. We undertake no obligation to update or to revise forward-looking statements. In addition, during this call, the company will be discussing non-GAAP financial measurements. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measurements to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measurement is included in the tables to the press release included as an exhibit to the company's 8-K filed yesterday and posted on the company's website at culp.com. A slide presentation with supporting summary financial information is also available on the company's website as part of the webcast of today's call. With that, I will now turn the call over to Iv Culp, President and Chief Executive Officer of Culp. Please go ahead, sir.

Iv Culp

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for joining us today. I would like to welcome you to the Culp quarterly conference call with analysts and investors. With me on the call today are Ken Bowling, Chief Financial Officer; and Boyd Chumbley, our President of our Upholstery Fabrics business. I will begin the call with some operating -- opening comments and Ken will then review the financial results for the quarter. Following that, I will briefly update you on the strategic actions specific to each of our operating segments and Ken we review our second quarter fiscal 2023 business outlook. We will then be pleased to take your questions. Our results for the first quarter reflected some sequential improvement as compared to the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022. However, as expected, sales and operating performance remain significantly pressured by slowing consumer demand in both the domestic mattress industry and the residential home furnishings industry. The impact of this industry softness on demand for our products has been exacerbated by an excess of retail and manufacturer inventory that continues to delay the timing of shipments and new product rollouts. Operating performance for the quarter was also affected by continued inflationary pressures, as well as reoccurring labor challenges within our mattress fabrics business and our Read Window Products business that resulted in increased employee training costs and operating inefficiencies during the quarter. We also had expected ramp-up costs associated with increasing capacity at our new upholstery fabrics cut and sew facility in Haiti. Despite these ongoing headwinds, I'm pleased with our unrelenting focus on working capital management, including inventory reduction throughout the quarter. We ended Q1 with a higher cash position than expect expected with $18.9 million in cash and zero outstanding borrowings. We generated cash flow from operations of $5.3 million and free…

Ken Bowling

Analyst

Thanks Iv. As mentioned earlier on the call, we have posted slide presentations to our Investor Relations website that cover key performance measures. We have also posted our capital allocation strategy. Here are the financial highlights for the first quarter. Net sales were $62.6 million, down 24.6% compared with the prior year period, which was a strong quarter for our business. The company reported a loss from operations of $4.7 million compared with income from operations of $3.3 million for the prior year period, and compared sequentially with the loss from operations of $5.4 million for the fourth quarter of last fiscal year. I'll comment in more detail on division of sales and operating performance in a moment. Net loss for the first quarter was $5.7 million or $0.47 per diluted share compared with net income of $2.3 million or $0.18 per diluted share for the prior period. Our overall operating performance for the first quarter was significantly affected by lower sales, continuing inflationary pressures, and reoccurring labor challenges within our Mattress Fabrics business and our Read Windows business that resulted in increased employee training costs and operating inefficiencies during the quarter. We also had additional costs associated with increasing capacity at our new upholstery fabric cut and sew facility in Haiti. These pressures were partially offset by lower total SG&A expense for the quarter, due mainly to lower incentive compensation expense. The effective income tax rate for the first quarter of this fiscal year was a negative 18.7% compared with 28.7% for the same period a year ago. Our effective income tax rate for the first quarter this fiscal year was affected by the company's mix of earnings between our U.S. and foreign subsidiaries. We incurred a significant pre-tax loss in our U.S. operations during the first quarter of…

Iv Culp

Analyst

Thank you, Ken. Let me just give a few more comments about each division beginning with the Mattress Fabric segment. Despite the headwinds in this business, Culp Home Fashions remained focused on working capital management and cash generation throughout the quarter, reducing its inventory by $2.5 million, balance in its raw materials with production needs and generating cash despite an operating loss for the quarter. This focus will remain for CHF as we move into Q2, and there are further inventory reductions possible in both finished goods and raw materials. Our dedicated team of associates executed our product-driven strategy for this business with an emphasis on innovation, design creativity, and personalized customer service. We began to see the rollout of a few new product launches in this business during the first quarter and we expect additional rollouts begin at the start of the 2023 calendar year as customers work through their existing inventories and as retailers plan refreshed offerings on their floors. However, the gain from these new product launches are currently being offset by industry weakness, which is affecting the demand for this segment's traditional business. Additionally, management is continuing its diligent focus on controlling costs and is implementing an additional targeted price increase on certain product lines during the second quarter to help offset the continued rise in raw material costs. We are also moving and consolidating our domestic mattress cover cut and sew operation during the second quarter from its current location in High Point, North Carolina to our existing CHF facility in Stokes Hill, North Carolina. Our CHF cut and sew platform is an important part of our strategic direction and we have an unparalleled service model with onshore, near-shore, and offshore capabilities. This relocation of our onshore business will improve efficiency and will further complement…

Ken Bowling

Analyst

We continue to navigate a convergence of headwinds, including significant inflationary pressures that are affecting consumer spending, high inventory levels at manufacturers, retailers, a challenging labor market, and other macroeconomic uncertainties. Although the company remains well-positioned over the long-term with this product-driven strategy and flexible global platform, their current conditions are likely to continue press results through at least the third quarter of this fiscal year. Due to the continued volatility in the macro environment, we are providing only limited sequential financial guidance for the second quarter of this fiscal year. We expect net sales for the second quarter of this fiscal year to be slightly down as compared to the first quarter of this fiscal year. We expect a consolidated operating loss for the second quarter of this fiscal year that is comparable to the first quarter of this fiscal year. We also expect our cash position as of the end of the second quarter of this fiscal year to be somewhat lower than the end of the first quarter of this fiscal year, but higher than the end of last fiscal year. As we weather the current challenges, we will continue to be laser focused on prudent financial management, with the goal of always maintaining a strong balance sheet, especially with regard to ensuring a strategic balance in our working capital. We are optimistic about Culp's future and we know that financial stability is paramount to our success. With that, we will now take your questions.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Rex Henderson from Water Tower. Please go ahead.

Rex Henderson

Analyst

First of all, thank you for taking my call. And I want to offer congratulations to you for really doing a quite admirable job of defending your cash position and defending the balance sheet in really very difficult circumstances. So, you deserve a lot of credit for that.

Iv Culp

Analyst

Thank you, Rex. Good morning to you.

Rex Henderson

Analyst

Good morning to you. My first question is really talking -- I want to discuss the -- you said that there were -- your downstream some of your customers manufacturers, retailers are over inventory. I'm wondering what you're seeing in trends there? Through the quarters, did you see that issue getting worse, getting better? And kind of what's your expectations for where the worst of it is and how long it takes to clear?

Iv Culp

Analyst

Hey Rex, thank you for that question. This is Iv. I'll start with this and I'm happy to let Boyd comment maybe more specifically to what he's seen in the upholstery part of our business. The true answer to that Rex is we -- we're not 100% sure. All I can tell you is that we continue to hear as we place new products, we hear from our customers that retail's very excited about some of these new launches, but they're not prepared to launch them until they flush through some inventory they have in their system. And they want to get that out of the way before they put the new product on the floor. So, I think we know without really much question that we're gaining some market share in some really nice areas. It's just hard for us to recognize that until those things hit the floor. So, I guess, my gut would tell me it's probably getting better. I mean, there's only so much limit of inventory. Hopefully, a strong Labor Day, if that bears out, will help move some things through the channel. I think in the mattress side, it's probably a bigger inventory position on bed in the box products and it would be traditional retail products, but again, we don't have actual data on it. We just continue to hear from our customers that they can't pull through new launch until they -- until the retail areas flush out inventory that's already prepared. Boyd, any more comments from you relating [PH] to Upholstery I missed out.

Boyd Chumbley

Analyst

Yes, I would just say I agree Iv that I think indications are that it is starting to improve and that some of the inventories at the retail and manufacturing levels are starting to come down some. Of course, when that's going to -- how that's going to play out is dependent on the pace of retail purchases by the consumer, which has been slowing on the furniture side. So, it's still a little difficult to say exactly when and at what pace that inventory will be normalized again, but I think indications are that it's starting to be progress-made and some lowering of that is now taking place.

Rex Henderson

Analyst

And then turning your attention to your working capital, your own inventory, you say you're continuing to work to lower inventory in the mattress business. Can you give me -- give us a little color on where you think you're still a little over-inventoried? Where you think you're a little bit? Is there any areas where you're under-inventoried, for instance, in raw materials in China as you ramp that up? Have you got any areas where you need to build inventory?

Iv Culp

Analyst

Let me take a first stab at that Rex, good question and I'll let Ken comment to it as well. The reason we think there's some inventory adjustment for us still to go through is on the Mattress Fabrics first and that's probably where we have some low-hanging fruit we can work on. We have further finished goods work we can do for sure. And having some inventory is always part of the Mattress Fabrics business because it's a -- it's generally a make the stock model. We're over-inventoried in some areas that we can move. We don't think anything there is obsolete, although we recognize that we have to do some price discounting to move things in certain situations. We also have a strong position of raw material inventory that we could say we bought strategically during a time of supply chain challenge and we would have expected to move that through production and into a customer by now. But just with the slower conditions, it's prevented us moving it through as quick as we wanted to. So, there still will be some tailwind both in finished goods and raw materials on the mattress side of the business. I don't think today we're in a bad inventory position at all in our Upholstery Fabrics business and we always have to manage that as we move towards Q3 where the Chinese New Year period would come into play. But we're already planning for that and already watching it in advance of that. Ken can you -- any more comments?

Ken Bowling

Analyst

I think you've covered it. Well, I think we've obviously focused on all aspects of inventory, both raw materials, finished goods, and looking at current needs versus expected demand. So, yes, I think you've covered it well and we're looking at all opportunities to get our inventory down further without affecting our performance.

Rex Henderson

Analyst

Okay. Thank you for that. And then one other just -- kind of a detailed modeling question. Your payables were a significant source of cash in this quarter and assume that as cash comes down in the coming quarter that paying off some of those payables as part of that kind of give you an idea of how much of a drive that's going to be on cash in the next quarter or two?

Iv Culp

Analyst

Rex we -- you jumbled up a minute there. I know you were asking us about payables. But can you state that question one more time to make sure we hear--

Rex Henderson

Analyst

Sure, sorry. Sorry, if there was a little static on the line. Payables were a big source of cash in this quarter and I assume that over the next couple quarters that that's going to come down? And I'm just wondering for modeling purposes, for my model, can you give me an idea of how much cash consumption is going to be coming out of payables over the next couple of quarters?

Ken Bowling

Analyst

Yes, Rex, this is Ken. That's difficult to quantify, but you are correct in that we had a nice -- normal build during Q1 as China came back online, and that it normally happens in Q4 during normal years. But with the shutdown, it happened in Q1. So, that was as expected. And as you pointed out, and as you see in our projection, we are expecting to have some of that payable, impact as we pay those bills in the second quarter. I think beyond that, we -- as Iv said, we are watching the situation with Chinese New Year in the third quarter that can always have an impact on payables going forward. So, that's -- we're going to have to balance that very carefully. So, I think as we said, we're -- when -- given the opportunity, we're going to extend payables where we can and strategically pay them where we can as well. And so I think just the rest assure that all -- in all -- on all fronts; we're going to watch it carefully and manage it close as we can with the understanding that we have to consider this potential impact for Chinese New Year as we go forward.

Rex Henderson

Analyst

Thanks so much. We hear a lot of time; we're focused on your working capital management, that's why we're asking all these, kind of, detailed questions on that area. But again, congratulations on doing a really good job of managing that in the last couple quarters. Thanks and I'll pass it on to some other questioners. Thanks. Bye, bye.

Iv Culp

Analyst

Thank you, Rex. Have a have a good day. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Okay our next question is coming from Anthony Lebiedzinski from Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst

Good morning gentlemen and thank you for taking the questions and let me echo the positive comments about the balance sheet strength, that's a nice job there. Also, firstly, just a quick question on China, so under those headlines today about yet another lockdown in China this coming with Chinese [PH] the region, will that hopefully not have any impact? Just wanted to clarify that whether there could be an issue?

Boyd Chumbley

Analyst

Yes, Anthony, this is Boyd, and no, those recently announced shutdowns that have occurred or in areas that are not affecting any of our operations or our supply base. So, there is no expected impact from that -- the most recent shutdowns there.

Iv Culp

Analyst

And Anthony, good morning, this is Iv. Boyd is definitely our resident China expert with his long tenured success of our platform in that country. And it still remains an important part of our platform. And so we've watched it very close. And Boyd's right, we don't anticipate problems. And we also understand there are challenges everywhere in the world, specifically in China. And that's why we're continuing to make pivots to our platform, just to be prepared for things that we may not see. But thankfully, today, we feel like our channel platform is operating pretty well and in a good place. Coming from a tough place where we were up until June. But today, we're in a good spot.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst

That's great to hear. So, just wanted to clarify that. Obviously, makes a lot of headlines out there, so I just wanted you guys to publicly clear that up. So, glad to hear that that's not an issue there for you now. Okay. And then we talked about some expected efficiency gains, consolidating the High Point facility and for Stokes Hill, how should we think about the opportunities there for cost savings -- balance of the year?

Iv Culp

Analyst

Anthony, its Iv and thanks for asking that question. We -- again, as we touched on in the script, our domestic cut and sew onshore business is very important to the startup and emergency supply and just the general sustaining our cut and sew platform. So, what's good about this relocation is we have some space in our current facility in Stokes Hill where we've been relocate our cut and sew operation, we're going to be able to exit some leases that we have in High Point, moving into a building that we own in Stokes Hill, we're going to limit some freight, we're going to be much closer to the fabric production. It's going to allow some cross-training of associates. Just there's a lot of built-in efficiency and built-in nuance and speed-to-market that's very positive for this move. Ken I don't know if you want to guide anything towards numbers to this, but this is probably not really going to impact us until Q3. We're going to make the move in Q2 and we're going to do it as quick as we can. But [indiscernible] already underway, employees have been notified, and I think there's a lot of excitement within our business about making this move. It feels very strategic for us. So, Ken, if you--

Ken Bowling

Analyst

No, Anthony I would say we're very early in the process, and like Iv said, it's going to be probably Q3. So, well certainly as we get closer, add more color to that, but it will be a material savings for sure. We just got to continue planning and execute the move of the move up there, but it will be material.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst

Okay, that sounds great. So, looking forward to further commentary about that at next the quarter. And then in terms of the labor challenges, so, obviously, that was an issue during the quarter. I mean, do you think the worst is behind you in terms of those challenges?

Iv Culp

Analyst

Anthony, this is Iv, it’s an excellent question. The labor challenges have been very bumpy for us over the last year and let's make sure our couch that it's bumpy for us in our domestic operations would impact our Mattress Fabric business and our Read Window Products business in Knoxville. We have seen it over the last year, it's been difficult, it's gotten better. It got difficult again in Q1 and now it's better again. So, I'd like to think the worst is behind us, but it's just been so bumpy. I think our employees -- we've done the right things in terms of wage rate movement, I know we're doing the right things on employee retention, we're showing our associates how they can grow in the company. I believe most of them are very happy with the direction and the opportunities they see in front of them, but we've been surprised on labor challenges. So, I certainly hope the worst of it is behind us, but we'll be watching that really close. And today we're in a good staffing position and that certainly helps as we look forward.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst

Got it, okay. And then Iv you guys talked about the popularity of the LiveSmart performance products. So, just wanted to get a better sense, how big is that piece of a business? And whether or not you expect that to perform better than the rest of the [indiscernible]?

Boyd Chumbley

Analyst

Yes, Anthony, you were breaking up there a little bit. But I think -- this is Boyd and I think I understood your question is as far as the strength of the LiveSmart business, and how that's contributing to driving our overall business. And yes, that that entire performance category of product has been our main driver of growth for the past couple of years now. And we have continued to enhance and add product offering with new innovations into that product category umbrella. Some of the latest things we've done is we've recently come out with an indoor/outdoor with UV protection. And -- but -- and as we said now for maybe a couple of quarters, we are really seeing the strength along the sustainability demand and desire in the marketplace and our sustainability products under our Evolve product category, continue to really be gaining ground in the market and gaining traction and being very well-received. We expect that to continue to be a big driver of our growth going forward as the -- with the success that we're seeing and the reaction we're having to this whole performance category.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Well, thank you very much, and best of luck.

Iv Culp

Analyst

Thank you, Anthony.

Boyd Chumbley

Analyst

Thanks Anthony.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Iv Culp for any closing remarks.

Iv Culp

Analyst

Thank you very much operator. And again, thanks to all of you for your participation and your interest in Culp. And we certainly look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. Hope everyone has a nice day and a long Labor Day weekend.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

Iv Culp

Analyst

Thank you.