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Civeo Corporation (CVEO)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 26, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Civeo Third Quarter Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time I would like to turn the conference over to Regan Nielsen, Manager, Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Regan Nielsen

Management

Thank you and welcome to Civeo's third quarter 2017 earnings conference call. Today our call will be led by Bradley Dodson, Civeo's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Frank Steininger, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we would like to caution listeners regarding forward-looking statements. To the extent that our remarks today contain information other than historical information, please note that we're relying on the Safe Harbor protections afforded by federal law. Any such remarks should be read in the context of the many factors that affect our business, including risks disclosed in our Form 10-K, 10-Q and other SEC filings. I will now turn the call over to Bradley.

Bradley Dodson

President

Thanks Regan, and welcome to everyone joining us today on our third quarter earnings call. I'll begin with an overview of our performance for the quarter and some commentary on our regional markets. Frank will then provide a detailed financial and segment level review. And I'll finish off by providing fourth quarter and 2017 guidance before we move on to the question-and-answer portion of the call. Our business continues to perform in line with our expectations in a very difficult market environment. During the third quarter, the company reported revenues of 97.5 million, above our guidance range with EBITDA of 16.1 million, within our guidance range. We generated 31.1 million of operating cash flow, 29.6 million of free cash flow and we paid down $4 million of debt during the third quarter. In our Canadian segment, sequential revenues were up 11% primarily due to improved occupancy at our lodges and the strengthening of Canadian dollar. We are pleased to announce that during the quarter we were awarded a five-year catering contract to operate a 450-room customer owned facility in Canada, with the expected revenues totaling approximately CAD32 million over the contract period. This contract is consistent with our operational strategy of increasing our service revenue profile and our low commodity price environment and is a testament to our best in class customer offering in our catering business. During the third quarter, US crude oil prices remained in mid-to-upper 40s per barrel, moving above $50 per barrel towards the end of the quarter. Our US segment recorded revenues of 6.1 million which is an increase of over 100% year-over-year and 7% sequentially due to higher occupancy in our Permian and Bakken camps and improvement in our wellsite services business. With oil prices slightly above $50 a barrel currently, business conditions in…

Frank Steininger

Management

Thank you, Bradley and good morning, everyone. Today, we reported total revenues of $97.5 million with a net loss on a GAAP basis of $22.3 million or $0.17 per diluted share. During the third quarter of 2017 the company generated operating cash flow of $31.1 million, adjusted EBITDA of $16.1 million and free cash flow of $29.6 million. I will now walk through our segment level performance beginning with our Canadian segment and I will be comparing our sequential performance from the third quarter of 2017 to the second quarter of 2017. Revenues from our Canadian segment were $63.8 million, up from $57.7 million in the second quarter of 2017. The increase in revenues was primarily attributable to higher occupancy related to construction and turnaround work as well as the strengthening of the Canadian dollar. Adjusted EBITDA from our Canadian operations was $15.6 million, up sequentially from $14.7 million despite the negative impact of approximately $1.1 million of cost overruns associated with a build per sale contract in British Columbia. Our adjusted EBITDA margin of 24% was slightly lower versus the second quarter which included the benefit from cost containment and more efficient operations offset by the aforementioned $1.1 million cost overrun. During the third quarter, average occupancy in our Canadian lodges was 81%, which was flat sequentially and driven by continued occupancy related to construction projects and turnaround related work. Our average daily rate for the Canadian segment in US dollars was $92 versus $89 in the second quarter resulting from increased short-term higher rate room demand and the stronger Canadian dollar. Turning to Australia, during the third quarter, we recorded revenues of $27.5 million, which were down from $28.6 million in the second quarter. Adjusted EBITDA of $9.7 million was down slightly on a sequential basis from $10.8…

Bradley Dodson

President

Thank you, Frank. I'll now outline our guidance for the fourth quarter and full-year 2017. Starting with Canada, we expect seasonally lower turnaround work in the fourth quarter, partially offset by continued strong demand from construction projects, the startup of pipeline project contracts which we mentioned on the second quarter earnings call and a strong Canadian dollar. For the fourth quarter, we're assuming a Canadian dollar exchange rate of 0.8 and we anticipate segment revenue of 60 million to 62 million and adjusted EBITDA of $12 million to $13.5 million for the fourth quarter of 2017. These expectations are based on 9,240 rentable rooms. We expect lodge occupancy between 72% and 74%, with a room rate of approximately CAD115 a night. We're raising our revenue guidance for the full year for our Canadian segment, primarily on the third quarter performance and an improved outlook for construction related occupancy in the fourth quarter. For the full-year in Canada, assuming the Canadian dollar exchange rate of 0.77 to the US dollar, we're guiding to revenue of $242 million to $244 million and we expect full-year adjusted EBITDA from Canada to be in the range of 55 million to 57 million. This full-year guidance assumes rentable rooms of 8,735, with lodge occupancy between 76% and 77%, and a room rate of approximately CAD119 per night in, again for the full-year of 2017. Moving to Australia, the macroeconomic environment appears to be stabilizing. Met coal prices have been volatile this year, but remain at constructive levels. With this volatility as we've mentioned, our customers continue to take a cautious approach to spending and therefore their demand for our accommodations. As such the outlook for incremental demand for rooms remains opaque and will continue to be contracted on a shorter-term basis. We've incorporated these expectations…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Blake Hancock with Howard Weil. Please go ahead.

Blake Hancock

Analyst · Howard Weil. Please go ahead

Bradley, first maybe wanted to touch on the catering contract on the 450 rooms. It's probably a little bit different than working on an owner-operated lodge, but can you maybe talk about that contract a little bit. And then on the operated room side, how that could fit into the portfolio approach if you could manage to take over some of your, you know, the owner-operated rooms especially in Canada.

Bradley Dodson

President

I think it's important, we highlighted this contract. This is part of our strategic push to have a greater exposure to customer owned rooms, customer owned rooms in both of our markets. Here, we're talking about Canada, but in both Canada and Australia are approximately 50% of the total capacity workforce accommodation. So getting access, getting revenue out of that piece of the market has been a major strategic push for us. We were pleased to win this contract. Their asset is close to our Wapasu Creek locations. So in reference to your comment about the portfolio, we do have some opportunities here to have some efficiencies across the two locations, from a managerial standpoint. Also, we're pleased to win this contract again and to carrying the contract, which is lower margin, but lower capital deployed. But it demonstrates that we can compete head to head with some of the largest caterers in the business effectively and both from a food cost standpoint and from a labor cost standpoint. In addition, we can bring in our best-in-class service to the location and there are some efficiencies we can gain from that as we go forward.

Blake Hancock

Analyst · Howard Weil. Please go ahead

Congrats on bumping the 4Q guide here. Can you maybe just walk through all the, maybe a little bit more granular details on the kind of bump here that we're seeing in 4Q and how much of that may be sticky as we had into 1Q? That would be helpful.

Bradley Dodson

President

Sure. As we had this call last quarter, there wasn't a lot of visibility at the time in late July, early August, in terms of what the demand was going to be and here, we're particularly talking about Canada, what was going to be the demand from the Fort Hills project as they move towards first oil at the end of the year, how much of the turnaround work was going to be from the second quarter into the fourth quarter. And as we move through the quarter, we got much better visibility that the demand for construction rooms is going to be strong in the fourth quarter. And that the turnaround, we've had some benefit of that here in the month of October, but that will be winding down. So generally speaking, the visibility is better. These are again - the excess rooms we're getting in Canada are under short-term contracts. So the visibility was not there when we gave the guidance initially on second quarter call. But it's looking better now.

Blake Hancock

Analyst · Howard Weil. Please go ahead

And last one, Frank, maybe you can kind of help us out on the one-time items and the increased stock comp here that we saw in 3Q and how we should think about that in 4Q.

Frank Steininger

Management

Yeah. The one-time as we reported related to a build for sale contract that we had, construction contract that we had in British Columbia, we identified some or we identified some issues with snow load on the roof. We were forced to go in and needed to fix that roof and basically, it's a result of the increased cost associated with correcting the design matter that we noted for the roof. So we had to get in there quickly to basically - from a safety standpoint, for the people that are staying in the accommodations and get the roof fixed. That we've estimated basically what the total cost is to complete that repair work and that was booked in the third quarter. We don't expect any other cost to come through as a result of this matter. So as simple as that. Stock based compensation really, that increase is largely driven by the increase in the stock price at the end of the third quarter and we have some Phantom shares that basically move up and down with the stock price. So good new, stock price went up, but it did have an impact on EBITDA.

Bradley Dodson

President

And there was one one-time item in the US operations, where we had, after we had mobilized well site units to a location to serve a downstream project, a turnaround, we had our customer cancel our contract due to dispute that they had with the ultimate owner of the downstream facility. That was disappointing, but that shouldn't repeat as well.

Operator

Operator

And next, we'll hear from Stephen Gengaro of Loop Capital.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Loop Capital

I guess two things. One, just quickly on the US market, I know you've moved some assets around that you mentioned on the call to kind of areas of stronger demand. And it looks like that kind of may hurt quarter a little bit relative to the second quarter. Where does that stand as far as excess cost in the US business and is that business getting close to break even on a EBITDA basis in 4Q?

Bradley Dodson

President

I don't think, as we mentioned on the last call, I don't think we're going to get all the way breakeven in the fourth quarter. That was the goal. Some of this, the costs, as you mentioned are to move assets out of the northern markets, here, we're talking about the Bakken and the Rockies into the Permian and MidCon. Some of them have been installed at our Pecos location, which is our open camp in West Texas and then we're also penetrating the well site market in the Permian and the MidCon. So we've picked up some rigs that's in both markets. We continue to look to penetrate those markets. We're only moving assets where we have a customer commitment to use them. Now, as all of you know, the well site business is a spot business, but we're not moving units on a speculative basis, so we do have a commitment from a customer to move the assets down there and that's giving us exposure to, well, the Permian is the largest market in the onshore business in the US and then MidCon is right up there. So that's been the strategy. I don't think, at this point, we're still completing our budgeting process. I don't know that we're going to get to break even in the first quarter. I think we'll get much closer, but for the full year, the expectation is we will be EBITDA positive in the US business for 2018.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Loop Capital

And then another quick one and then sort of a bigger picture question. On the corporate side, Frank, you talk about the stock based comp. Should that corporate other line go back closer to 2Q numbers in 4Q, back to like 5.5 million to 6 million of negative.

Frank Steininger

Management

Well, I mean, we've been running a little higher than that, right. I mean, we're - it should be somewhere, we've been between 6 and 7 for the year. So that's where we should be for the year.

Stephen Gengaro

Analyst · Loop Capital

And then just finally and I know it's early, but as we think about just kind of a bigger picture look at '18, it sounds like you think Australia potentially has some positives and Canada, I know you go from - you go kind of into production mode on, I think it's [indiscernible] occupancy, so that probably goes down. Any thoughts on kind of how we look, kind of the gives and takes as we go into '18. I'm just kind of trying to frame how we think about '18, maybe relative to even the back half of '17.

Bradley Dodson

President

Sure. It's a very good question. We're still working through our budgeting process and we're still in conversations with customers to have a better understanding of what their needs are going to be as we try and budget for '18, as they budget for '18. In Canada, we'll just go region by region. That's okay. In Canada, you highlighted, we're working on with our customers as well as the room demand from the Fort Hills project. Again, as I mentioned, they're moving towards first oil by the end of the year and so we're in conversations with the customer to determine what their room needs are going to be going into 2018. Second piece in Canada is the amount of turnaround activity. We had good turnaround activity in the second and third quarters of this year and that makes it two years in a row that we have. This is normal maintenance work that our customers do where they need to bring in a fairly substantial amount of personnel to execute to make those projects as quickly as they can, as they are taking down the facility as well they're doing this. Typically, it's a 60 to 90-day project where they can meet an incremental headcount of anywhere from, I'd say, 800 people to 1500 people for that duration. So that is usually contracted in the fourth and first quarter for next year and we're hopeful we'll see another good year of turnaround activity. And we will be booking that into our guidance or our internal budget as we look at 2018. The third piece in Canada is what it's going to be the mobile camp activity for pipeline work. As we mentioned on the last earnings call, we have won some pipeline projects and we're pleased that we did,…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next, we'll take a question from Mike Malouf with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Mike Malouf

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group

I'm wondering if we could just explore Australia just a little bit more. No conviction yet, still doing the sort of a small 50 to 75 room orders. When you take a look at some of the projections out there that says, coal will come down, what's - and just sort of in your opinion, in your experience, how much weight do you give that? Can you give us any insight into the market over there and why you think after all these months of coal being up that high, you haven't seen even one of them start to shift on the capacity side?

Bradley Dodson

President

Let me try and answer that to the best of the ability. I think at 130 to 140, I don't want people to take away the impression that that would equate to lower occupancy in our locations. So the movement from where we are today at 180, if it were to go down to that level, I don't expect it to have a negative impact on our occupancy. That level is still constructive for current operations. The real question is, is that level constructive for expansionary projects and that we don't know. Why do you think the price is going to go down? My understanding is that gets you closer to the global marginal cost and that appears to be in a level that the Chinese would defend in terms of their own coal mining operations. So that's been a forecast. The forecast hasn't been right for the last 18 months. So just trying to report to the investors what we see out there, but the last two years, no one's been right. They've been projecting coal prices come down to 130 since they went up to 300, starting in September of 2016. Now, they've retreated once down to 140, but then they went right back up to 300 after a cycle in Bevy. And now, they've retreated down, first to 200, now down to about 180. So I will continue to watch it, continue to stay close to our customers, but the outlook on the prices remains unclear.

Mike Malouf

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group

And then just a quick question on the catering contract that you announced, when do you expect revenue to start on that?

Bradley Dodson

President

The 1st of November.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] It appears there are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back to our speakers for any additional or closing remarks.

Bradley Dodson

President

Thank you everyone for joining us on the third quarter call. We look forward to speaking to you in February as we complete the year 2017 and at that point, we'll be in a position to give 2018 guidance. And we appreciate your interest in stock. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.