Dave Lamp
Analyst · Goldman Sachs.
Well, Neil, I think if you look at the Mid-Con, it’s kind of a little bit different than what the rest of the United States looks like. I mean, we’re at low levels. If you look back five years, we’re very low on inventory on gas, which is extremely unusual this time of the year. So, it tells me demand has been good. And in fact, if you look at it, liftings in the Magellan system are very similar to what they’ve always been, even pre-COVID, post-COVID, all the way through. On distillate, again, distillate has been extremely strong. The basis has been in the teens over the NYMEX for most of the quarter. Sometimes it hit as high as $0.35, which tells me that there was a lot of turnarounds going on and a lot of interruptions in the first quarter from our competitors and other refiners in the system. Even though we had a turnaround that it was -- even though it was a fairly small turnaround, it’s just the coker, we still were cut back on rates and still had a very, very good quarter. I think, in general, trucking volumes are down. I think all the data shows that. From an industrial standpoint, it’s not real strong. I mean,, all the indicators are there that the market is somewhat down on distillate. And that’s the main reason we employed some of the hedges we did just because we saw that coming. And still there’s 2 million barrels of refining capacity around the world that’s about to come on. The U.S. looks to me to be about flat with new start-ups and shutdowns, but it’s the rest of the world that’s -- where the incremental capacity is going to come from. And a lot of those are export refineries. So, it’s -- even though our demand is strong, I think the world is seeing a bit of a slow.