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Commvault Systems, Inc. (CVLT)

Q1 2009 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 4, 2008

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen and welcome to CommVault fiscal first quarter 2009. (Operator Instructions). At this time for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Mike Picariello, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Mike Picariello

Management

Good afternoon. Thanks for dialing in today. With me on the call are Bob Hammer, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Al Bunte, Chief Operating Officer and Lou Miceli, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call including in the question-and-answer session at the end of the call, that relate to future results and projections are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are based on our current expectation. Actual results may differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, which are discussed in our SEC filings and in the cautionary statement contained in our press release and on our website. The company undertakes no responsibility to update the information in this conference call under any circumstances. Our earning press release was issued today over the wire services after the market closed and has also been furnished to the SEC as an 8-K filing. The press release is also available on our Investor Relations website. On this conference call, we will provide non-GAAP financial results. The reconciliation between the non-GAAP and GAAP measures can be found on Table IV accompanying the press release and posted on our website. This conference call is also being recorded for replay and is being webcast. An archive of today's webcast will be available on our website following the call. I will now turn the call over to our CEO and President, Bob Hammer.

Bob Hammer

President

Thanks, Michael. Welcome everyone and thanks for joining our fiscal first quarter 2009 earnings call. For the quarter, we achieved revenues of $55 million, up 25% on a year-over-year basis, versus $44 million in fiscal Q1, 2008. Software revenue grew on a year-over-year basis by 15%, while our services business grew 37% year-over-year. For the quarter, non-GAAP operating income or EBIT of $7.2 million, up 16% year-over-year versus EBIT of $6.2 million in fiscal Q1, 2008, non-GAAP earnings per share for the quarter was $0.12. Lou Miceli will provide more details on the financial results along with the updated guidance later on in the call. As you are already aware from our press release, the results for the quarter are lower than our historical growth rate and below our expectations. The biggest issue that negatively impacted the quarter was the timing of deal flow with several large deals moving into Q2. In contrast, our overall sales funnel increased significantly from its previous high in Q4, FY '08, and our enterprise deal funnel is also very strong, but we also have very good visibility of our large enterprise deal funnel going into Q3. We had a strong July, which validated the underlying strength of the business. In fact, dollar volume enterprise order received so far in the quarter were over 85% of the dollar volume of enterprise orders recognized in all of Q1 '09. The growth in the overall funnel big deal pipeline in July orders indicate healthy demand for our products across all geographies. In summary, we had increasing visibility early in Q2. We continue to see very little negative impact from the current economy. As a result of our confidence in the underlying strength of the business, we are reaffirming and modestly raising our guidance for FY '09. In…

Lou Miceli

Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Bob, and good afternoon everyone. I will cover the financial highlights for the first quarter along with updating our fiscal year 2009 guidance. I will begin with revenues. For the first quarter, total revenues were $55 million, an increase of 25% year-over-year, and a decrease of 3% sequentially. Software revenues were $27.7 million, an increase of 15% year-over-year, a decrease of 12% sequentially. Services revenue was $27.3 million, an increase of 37% year-over-year, and 8% sequentially. The overall sequential decline in software revenue for the quarter was driven by lower software revenue in the US, as a result of lower volume of enterprise deals in the quarter, which was caused by a few deals slipping into Q2. While we expected the quarter to be flat to slightly up, we are still confident with our ability to hit our Q2 and full year revenue growth targets, which I will address when I cover guidance. For the quarter the growth of software revenue internationally was 36% and in US, it was 1% over the prior year period. Software revenue generated through indirect distribution channels was approximately 84% of software revenue for the quarter, compared to 76% in the prior year period. The shift towards higher indirect revenue is the result of an increase in software revenue from our international operations, which is sold mostly through indirect channels and a shift in the United States to indirect distribution channels being driven predominantly through our growing relationship with Arrow's ATI division. Approximately 19% of revenue for the current quarter was sold through our distribution agreement with Arrow compared to 8% in the prior year period. While we continue to invest in both our channel distribution and our direct sales force, we expect to see a continuing trend of increasing revenue sold through indirect…

Bob Hammer

President

Thank you, Lou. As I mentioned at the start of the call, our Q1 growth rate was negatively impacted by the timing of the closing of several large deals. The fundamentals of our business remain strong. Our funnel growth and strong start to the Q2 quarter gives us confidence we would be at or ahead of our expectations come mid year. In addition, we believe our fully staffed sales force and the strength of our expanding distribution will enable us to meet our revised upward guidance for the balance of fiscal 2009. I would like to talk about distribution. We have made excellent progress in bringing the US sales force up to full staffing levels that are required to hit our growth targets. We are making progress and expanding our relationship with Arrow. We are in execution mode with our new European distributor Magirus. We are in a process of expanding our relationship with Adnet in EMEA. We continue to make substantial progress in broadening our geographic coverage including discussions with other strategic global partners. We have signed an amendment to our existing OEM and resell agreement with HDS, which should enable us to increase our effectiveness through HDS. And the last week Dell and CommVault signed a three-year agreement and broadening distribution of CommVault Simpana software and services, through Dell software and peripheral channel on a worldwide basis. The CommVault-Dell will offer its customers, a full spectrum of data information management solution that reduce costs and complexity for Dell and their customers. We are also making progress on additional avenues of distribution, which we are forecasting to have completed and in place in our fiscal fourth quarter. In summary, we are continuing to broaden our global distribution reach, in order to meet our near-term and longer-term growth objectives. I…

Mike Picariello

Management

Thanks Bob. Before we open the lines for your questions, I would like to highlight a few upcoming Investor Relations events. Al will be speaking at the 2008 Pacific Crest Technology Leadership Forum at Vail Colorado, tomorrow, August 5th at 1 pm Eastern Time. In addition he will be speaking at the 2008 North American Technology Conference hosted by RBC Capital Markets in San Francisco on August 7th at 2 pm Eastern Time. Al's presentations will be available live on our Investor Relations website and will also be archived for 90 days. Finally, we will be hosting our annual stockholders meeting on Wednesday August 27th, at 1 pm Eastern Time in Eatontown, New Jersey. Details and live webcast are available on the IR section of our website. Can we please open up to questions, now?

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. (Operator Instructions). And our first question comes from the line of Tim Klasell with Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed.

Tim Klasell - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst · Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed

Yes, good afternoon, everybody. A part of question that comes top of my mind here, some of the large deals that stretched out a little bit have they already closed in this quarter?

Bob Hammer

President

Some of them have, Tim. When I am talking about large deals, we typically talk about deals over 100,000, but there are quite a few deals that are well north of $1 million and we have strong bookings in that category already in Q2.

Tim Klasell - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst · Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed

Okay, very good. And as we think of CommVault overall, as you begin to add more and more high level products and the deals are getting larger should we be thinking differently about the amplitude of the seasonality versus what we have seen historically from CommVault?

Bob Hammer

President

Well, if it wasn't for the results this quarter? I'd say no. When we talk about deals over $1.0 million, Tim, and now we are talking about deals in the millions. I mean that these are in the $3 million to 5 million, one shot deals that are first orders. Some of these deals are extremely large and we have many more deals over $1 million in the funnel and a few of those slip and they can skew the numbers and make things look differently than they really are. So, hopefully given the breadth and depth of the distribution, the basic catch up on our hiring that we can minimize what happened this quarter. What the point is for the year our overall outlook for the business has not change. Yes, just unfortunate we had the result we have this quarter, but it's really unfortunate given the underlying strength of the business.

Tim Klasell - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst · Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed

Okay, great. Then one final question here on your biggest competitor out there, put up some pretty good numbers on their storage management business and has there been anything changed out there in the competitive landscape?

Bob Hammer

President

No, our competitive win rate against Symantec and against the other major competitors does not changed one iota. We have said in the past that the win rate, once it ends up and our deal ends as our funnel is approximately 90% and that has not changed at all. I congratulate Symantec on their numbers, but that had nothing to do with CommVault as far as our win rate relative to Symantec.

Tim Klasell - Thomas Weisel Partners

Analyst · Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed

Okay, very good. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Aaron Rakers with Wachovia. Please proceed.

Aaron Rakers - Wachovia

Analyst · Aaron Rakers with Wachovia. Please proceed

Yes. Thank you for taking the question, a couple of questions as well. Going back to the deal slippage, Bob, could you say if it were for maybe throw a number out there, a couple, four, five large deals that had slipped, would you had basically hit the expectations that you would guided for the quarter?

Bob Hammer

President

We have exceeded those expectations.

Aaron Rakers - Wachovia

Analyst · Aaron Rakers with Wachovia. Please proceed

So, what I am trying to understand that is, if you have a funnel build, and it sounds like there is larger deals north of $1 million that are taking a little bit longer just to effectively close. How do we get comfort that won't be the case this quarter here as we come up into the final couples of weeks of September?

Bob Hammer

President

Well, there is a big difference is that, as I mentioned in my earnings overview that we have already closed 85% of the number we closed all last quarter. In other words, what I reference is, we have in our hand orders that are in our hand that equal 85% of the numbers that we booked in Q1 already. So, we will exceed all of what we booked in Q1 in the very near future here.

Lou Miceli

Chief Financial Officer

Deals over 100,000.

Aaron Rakers - Wachovia

Analyst · Aaron Rakers with Wachovia. Please proceed

Over a 100,000? Okay. And then maybe if I could shift gears, one thing that was mentioned that is new in my opinion is that the signing of the three-year relationship with Dell. Maybe you could elaborate on that a little bit? And also maybe talk a little bit about what you are doing to expand the relationship with Arrow?

Bob Hammer

President

Okay. On Dell we have always had an SMP contract with Dell that we sold globally. It didn't include all our products and it include all their verticals and this includes all of CommVault's Simpana and all of Dell's verticals. So, it basically augments our OEM relationship and there is more to come on Dell. We are doing up some other things with Dell. So, it was a win-win expansion of our Dell relationship.

Aaron Rakers - Wachovia

Analyst · Aaron Rakers with Wachovia. Please proceed

And on Arrow, I guess post Symantec and Arrow part of ways I guess?

Bob Hammer

President

Well, we mentioned in the past that we moved from one Arrow division to the ATI Division, which is a much more solutions-oriented division. We are training their technical people now and have their sales people trained (Inaudible) Symantec. And the way so that focusing on CommVault and they are putting a lot of people through training to be a lot more effective with our value-added resellers.

Aaron Rakers - Wachovia

Analyst · Aaron Rakers with Wachovia. Please proceed

Okay. Final question if I may. Can you break down how significant maintenance is within the services line?

Bob Hammer

President

We typically have not, you know from past history what that was, but we have not disclosed that number publicly.

Aaron Rakers - Wachovia

Analyst · Aaron Rakers with Wachovia. Please proceed

Okay, fair enough. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tom Curlin with RBC. Please proceed.

Tom Curlin - RBC

Analyst · Tom Curlin with RBC. Please proceed

Hey, good afternoon. As you look at some of these larger deals, do you think that part of what is happening here is a learning curve for the sales force in terms of getting deals of this size done or maybe the amount of friction that you see competitively as you win deals of this size? I would have to thank that you are showing up more on the radar screen of competitors if you are heading into $3 million to $5 million deal size range?

Bob Hammer

President

Yes, Tom. Almost all the once that slipped and nothing to do with competition. They were procurement related in almost all cases, not all, but they are mainly deals that we thought would close at sufficient time in the closing process to get these deals done and for one reason or another they got stuck and came out on the other end of the quarter. It was just I'd say look at the tranche I am really unfortunate given looking the strength of our funnel. As we entered this quarter, in fact going to the end, we feeling, really good here not only about Q1, but Q2, the funnel is big and obviously deals, are probably going to over achieve, the number and we did, but I'd say in a vast majority of the cases nothing to do with competition those are just in the category, but stuff happens and fortunately the vast, vast majority of those would be in, either are in our hands or will be in our hands in Q2.

Tom Curlin - RBC

Analyst · Tom Curlin with RBC. Please proceed

Can you talk about the mix of these deals? Are these broad Simpana full suite?

Bob Hammer

President

These are broad Simpana full suite deals, you bet.

Tom Curlin - RBC

Analyst · Tom Curlin with RBC. Please proceed

Okay.

Bob Hammer

President

And big, some of them most extremely large.

Tom Curlin - RBC

Analyst · Tom Curlin with RBC. Please proceed

Any particular verticals that might be new to you as a result of the traction?

Bob Hammer

President

They are still horizontal.

Tom Curlin - RBC

Analyst · Tom Curlin with RBC. Please proceed

Okay.

Bob Hammer

President

But we are seeing globally by the way a lot of deals in government sector.

Tom Curlin - RBC

Analyst · Tom Curlin with RBC. Please proceed

Okay, alright. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.

Derek Bingham - Goldman Sachs

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

Hi, my first question, of the 85% of the enterprise volume from last quarter that you closed already. How much of that, is it safe to say that almost all of that were deals that you were expecting to close last quarter?

Bob Hammer

President

Yes.

Derek Bingham - Goldman Sachs

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

And then you mentioned the dollar volume of large deals was up strongly up 30%. So, I was curious on the smaller more transactional deals. How are those growing? How does those growing?

Bob Hammer

President

They exceeded our forecast, the smaller deals. So, this was a large deal issue clearly. It wasn't a small deals, that was surprisingly strong and in addition to that, the amount of ADIM in those smaller deals was also surprisingly strong given the fact that our enterprise deals were off. We were surprised that our ADIM sales as a percent of revenue were so high and it grew 99% year-on-year.

Derek Bingham - Goldman Sachs

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

And the transactional trends so far that you are seeing in this quarter so far. How are those holding up?

Bob Hammer

President

I just off a revenue call and that's why we raised guidance. Our criteria to raise guidance for the quarter and the year was that, just to validate what we thought in terms of what was slipped and the size of the funnel, what came into the funnel and what was on track to close in Q2. So, we are feeling really good at the moment. But at the end of the day it's what is booked. What gets in here is orders and what is booked by finance is going to determine, but right now we are feeling really good, about not only the quarter, but the visibility of some of these really large deals going on at the Q3 and Q4 are coming in very strongly also. I am talking about not only deals over 100,000 we are talking about deals well over $1 million.

Derek Bingham - Goldman Sachs

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

Got it, okay. Thank you very much.

Bob Hammer

President

Your next question comes from the line of Aaron Schwartz with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Aaron Schwartz - JPMorgan

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

Good afternoon. I had a question on the deals that didn't close in the quarter. Should we read anything into that in terms of you being disciplined around pricing in terms of maybe not discount into close deals in a quarter or was that purely a procurement deal that was just out of your hands?

Bob Hammer

President

It wasn't pricing, Aaron. We are disciplined. We are maintaining our discipline. So, we didn't try to move things by significant discounting in almost every case these were closing process, procurement issue of which I will, but some of those can sound really silly, but why it is a multi-million deal did not close, but they didn't on just things that happened in the procurement process. So, it had nothing to do with pricing.

Aaron Schwartz - JPMorgan

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

Okay. And if we look at the full year guidance you raised that number. Can you talk about the close rate assumptions there? Is it a stable close rate assumption or you just have a larger pipeline at this point or did you actually change the close rate assumption because you just have more traction with some of the sales investments that you made in recent periods?

Lou Miceli

Chief Financial Officer

Well, we assumed a more normal close rate than we had last quarter because last quarter was unusual. The raising guidance clearly ties to our visibility, when you are closing seven figure deals they cover a lot of territory. The funnel of those deals is highest as ever been in our history and we have good visibility to them and that gives us more confidence in validating not only the funnel itself, but raising our guidance.

Aaron Schwartz - JPMorgan

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

Okay. And then lastly for me on the expense side, it sounds like you are done with the catch up hiring in the Americas, if that's the right term for it. This is the expense that you had in Q1, is that of the normal run rate we should look at outside of additional commissions or will you continue to add internationally, are going to continue to be hires that we should think about when modeling the sales and marketing out?

Bob Hammer

President

As I mentioned in the call, to-date we have not seen an impact on our revenue or funnel build from the economy. If I said in last quarter, so, it does not mean we will given the uncertainties we see out there, but to-date, that hasn't impacted us. We are extremely confident about, where we are as far as competing technically against our major competition. We have got a really significant new release coming out, that we are now confident about what it is and when it is going to come out. We are expanding distribution and we are opening up more markets and we are seeing on a relative basis our ability to compete in general is going up. For given that, we are continuing to invest as I have mentioned in the past for long-term sustainable growth for the company and we are continuing to make those investments.

Aaron Schwartz - JPMorgan

Analyst · Derek Bingham with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed.

Michael Turits - Raymond James

Analyst · Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed

Hi, guys. Were there anything in the deals that slipped, did any of the customers mention budget issues there in anyway?

Bob Hammer

President

Yes, one was a budget issue because somebody took the money out of the wrong bucket and had to be re-bucketed. But by most of them, which may sound silly, but when you take a multiple seven figure deal and it is in the wrong bucket and it cost a few weeks, it has an impact, right? There are budget issues out there, but at the end of the day, there is enough money in our funnel and deal closings for us to hit our numbers. There has been some I call at the margin issues related to budget, but those issues really didn't impact our results.

Michael Turits - Raymond James

Analyst · Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed

And then as you move to larger deals, is it just a question that now you need to maybe readjust, what you think of the typical sales cycle to incorporate longer, larger deal procurement types?

Bob Hammer

President

We try to do that in our forecasting, but to be honest we had so much coverage going through this quarter that we still felt, way into the quarter just because of the breadth and depth of our coverage relative to our number that we were comfortably meet or exceed that number and we didn't. So, I don't know what to say. It was just clearly surprising and unfortunate, but that's what it was and then these deals came in. I would say that our guidance for Q2 taken into account, that we have enough coverage to hit that guidance.

Michael Turits - Raymond James

Analyst · Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed

And then last question, you here on 60, 67 something headcount add this quarter. Last year you added about 140. You are going to do roughly the same amount or you doubled last quarters add so, that trail off or were going to end up going well above last year's headcount adds.

Al Bunte

Analyst · Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed

We are planning on being a little above last year's headcount. Obviously as you saw we added 67 this last quarter. That was a strong hiring quarter for us on a net basis. The year we are anticipating ahead of last year.

Michael Turits - Raymond James

Analyst · Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed

Okay. A little bit, not significantly?

Al Bunte

Analyst · Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed

I would say modestly.

Michael Turits - Raymond James

Analyst · Michael Turits with Raymond James. Please proceed

Okay. Thanks. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jayson Noland with Robert Baird. Please proceed.

Jayson Noland - Robert Baird

Analyst · Jayson Noland with Robert Baird. Please proceed

Thank you. On the large deals you are seeing in your pipeline, $1 million and $3 million to $5 million are they rip and replace deals, taking out a competitor's product? And what would you say is the driver of these deals, is that a rearchitect type of thing with the VMware, or what is going on?

Bob Hammer

President

I would say Al can join in a second here, I would say in almost all cases, not all, there has been re-architect and in almost all cases there is a fairly large element of rip and replace. And Al if you want to add to that?

Al Bunte

Analyst · Jayson Noland with Robert Baird. Please proceed

Yes, I agree, Bob. There most of them were rip and replace. It's hitting the typical dynamics that we see out there in terms of guys are re-architecting based on server consolidation, some virtualization. Usually there is a need to hit better recovery SOAs out there and again the underlying dynamics based on data growth. So, apparently typical, but we have definitely seen it in these bigger deals.

Bob Hammer

President

I will also mention, we are seeing in a number of cases, competitors running into scale issues either on the frontend or the backend meaning, they are having scale issues tied to data management you call them backup windows. On the other side difficulty in recovery and we are also another major motivator is support and reliability of managing these disparate platforms relative to our single platform.

Jayson Noland - Robert Baird

Analyst · Jayson Noland with Robert Baird. Please proceed

Are you guys targeting larger enterprises or are OEMs taking you in?

Bob Hammer

President

Well, clearly we have been as a company, we have been on what I call a student body right for now about three years to target the whole company has been reengineered to focus on the enterprise with our overlay sales force and our partners are taking us in. So, it is a combination of both of those.

Jayson Noland - Robert Baird

Analyst · Jayson Noland with Robert Baird. Please proceed

Then one last question for me maybe, Bob if you can talk about software as a service opportunity a little bit for the long-term?

Bob Hammer

President

Well, it has not shown up as a number that is greater than 10% of our revenues, but underlying that is a strong growth driver. I do not know the exact number of accounts now that use our platform as their SAP engine, but it is certainly pretty substantial and it is a major growth driver for us and everyone knows that it comes like Rackspace and Incentra, Atos Origin use CommVault as their engine. So, we are winning quarter-on-quarter we are bringing more and more customers in who are using our platform for SAP. So, it is a major growth engine for us and I will just let Al spend a second on some of the underlying technologies that enable us to compete really effectively against our competition in this area. Al, you may want to take two seconds here.

Al Bunte

Analyst · Jayson Noland with Robert Baird. Please proceed

Yes, probably number one it was just a large operations in big scale. As you guys know most of these any services or SAP offerings out there have thousands and thousands of customers and therefore servers or applications to try and manage here. A number of things we do there is really not only competitive, but vastly superior. So, then it gets into a number of things of how we move data, how we move data over networks, all of the capabilities and advantages we have in that arena. And probably lastly, and big operational reporting and management, a number of things in our suite work really, really well again these large operation.

Jayson Noland - Robert Baird

Analyst · Jayson Noland with Robert Baird. Please proceed

Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Freed with Morgan Keegan. Please proceed.

Brian Freed - Morgan Keegan

Analyst · Brian Freed with Morgan Keegan. Please proceed

Good afternoon. Just a couple of quick questions. One, can you comment on the traction you saw with Sun in the quarter?

Bob Hammer

President

I would say Brian, it's spotty. We are getting Sun orders in now this quarter. In certain markets we have traction, in others we don't. Again there are orders coming into our funnel and closing, but it is at this time I would call it spotty.

Brian Freed - Morgan Keegan

Analyst · Brian Freed with Morgan Keegan. Please proceed

Okay. And then secondly you mentioned block-level de-duplication is something that's a forthcoming focus of yours. Is that something that we would expect to see integrated as a feature of Simpana, or would it be something that could appear as a standalone appliance?

Bob Hammer

President

Well, it is clearly integrated yes it could be used as a standalone appliance in both cases. On the integration side, we are unique in that our de-duplication technology carries with it all the basic function of Simpana, you can encrypt it, you can search it, you can archive it, you can move it to tape. So, it is clearly and its, scales much higher than the existing hardware technology that is out there and is a lot less costly. So, it is clearly, de-duplication is a function that has high value to the customers and we have fully integrated that function into our Simpana platform. CommVault is not going to get into the appliance business, but I mentioned in the past that, we do have partners that are going to be using our code for appliances in general and more to come on that subject, when these technologies, all these products begin to hit the market.

Brian Freed - Morgan Keegan

Analyst · Brian Freed with Morgan Keegan. Please proceed

Great, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Steve Koenig - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst · Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed

Hi, guys, thanks. Want to just get a housekeeping question out of the way. Did you say that ADIM was 27% of software revenues? Did I hear that right?

Bob Hammer

President

I believe that is the right number, Steve. But I am pretty sure that it was 27% this quarter down from 28% last quarter and up from 15% in Q1 FY '08.

Steve Koenig - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst · Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. On the Simpana product cycle, how should we think about that as we move into the back half of the fiscal year? Should we expect that software revenue growth would accelerate as the product cycle gets a little older? And what did you assume in guidance in terms of a new product and how do you manage that product transition so as not to disrupt your fiscal year end?

Bob Hammer

President

Well. We did the same thing with Simpana 7.0 and we managed that really well with our customers. And our customers can always buy, when we automatically upgrade them to the core features that are in the product they buy today and they can purchase new products at a price when we come out with a price book. So, we don't anticipate a disruption in that regard. But I mean, we feel that's very manageable and obviously if we are coming out with this product sometime in our late Q3, Q4 that typically we don't plan for big revenue from a planning guidance standpoint, we don't assume lot of revenue from new products until into the next fiscal year which would be our FY '10.

Steven Koenig - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst · Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay.

Bob Hammer

President

But we are really confident about what we have. I mean, we are well enough down the development process obviously this far down you pretty much know what you have got and this release by the way is significantly larger than our last release. Our last release was the largest in our history and that probably wanted a new code and this release was significantly larger than our previous release.

Steven Koenig - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst · Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. Regarding the Q2 here, is it possible to expect that linearity would be normal in the Q2 or should we expect the quarters be much more front-end loaded given that you probably had some large deals close here given the stats that you cited?

Bob Hammer

President

We wouldn't have raised guidance unless it was a lot more front-end loaded.

Steven Koenig - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst · Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay, that's fair. And then lastly, just a question or two about Symantec here. They look like they are now growing faster than the market. I guess the overall question is if Symantec is able to stabilize their share and you continue to grow yours as fast and now that it appears NetBackup is maybe a more stable product then it used to be and has better disk-based backup. How does your positioning change, when you go up against Symantec?

Bob Hammer

President

All I can say is our big deal funnel is growing. Obviously the guidance we just gave you our growth prospects seemed to be strong and Symantec got some very large accounts. We seemed to be very successful.

Steven Koenig - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst · Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay, great.

Bob Hammer

President

Part of that.

Steven Koenig - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst · Steve Koenig with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed

Okay. Thanks a lot, Bob.

Bob Hammer

President

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from the line of (inaudible). Please proceed.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good afternoon, gentlemen. Bob, can you shed a little light on some of those seven figure deals that are in the funnel or that have closed in terms of the deal mix on that and whether some of those came through partner or more direct? Just a little shading in terms of …

Bob Hammer

President

Just in general, [Gabe], it is global. What we are seeing this quarter is a lot stronger US than what you will see in the seven figure deals is deals in the US and globally. And since a much larger part of our revenue now is coming through distribution, I think that will show up in our numbers that our distribution is working and we are working with partners on a number of those large deals.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Would any of those touch into the, let's call it emerging markets?

Bob Hammer

President

You mean like.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

China, India?

Bob Hammer

President

Not in Q2. But a lot of them will come from international revenue.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Phillips Winslow with Credit Suisse. Please proceed.

Phillips Winslow - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Phillips Winslow with Credit Suisse. Please proceed

Hi guys, most of my questions have been asked, but just wanted to do dig a little bit into your expectations for operating expense growth. You guys talked about a full year non-GAAP EBIT margin close to 18%, but 16.5% for Q2. You guys are guiding reasonably flattish or actually I will call it about 30 to 50 bps year-over-year in the first half, but the seconds half, actually I've to take it up close to 20% to get to your full year, or call it 19%-20%. How would you expect your expenses to moderate in the second half? Is there anything going on in Q2 that's not going to continue in the second half?

Lou Miceli

Chief Financial Officer

I just say in general, I understand where you're going on this Phil. Obviously, we are continuing to invest and if you just work your model backwards, and you will find the answer. But, we're just giving guidance on Q2 and the fiscal year; we're not going to get into the quarterly numbers on operating expenses for Q3 and Q4.

Phillips Winslow - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Phillips Winslow with Credit Suisse. Please proceed

And well I guess, instead of a higher level, where should we expect for the majority of the focus to go between sales and marketing, R&D and G&A, and then maybe--?

Lou Miceli

Chief Financial Officer

It's clearly, the bulk of the investment is going to be on sales and marketing and support. They all go hand-in-hand, because you put salespeople out there, you got to put your support infrastructure in place, both field support and corporate support, and we are expanding marketing worldwide to support in a broader distribution model, so that's where the bulk of the investment is. We will continue to invest in there, I mean, we're working, obviously we have a major release coming out and we are defining the releases after that, we'll right down the path on the next couple of releases. So, yes that will continue, there're a lot of things we can do to innovate and create value for our customers and continue to expand in our available market. So, we will continue to do that as well, but on a percentage basis the bulk of the near-term future investment will be in sales, marketing and support.

Phillips Winslow - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Phillips Winslow with Credit Suisse. Please proceed

Got it, alright. Thank guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Walter Pritchard with Cowen. Please proceed.

Walter Pritchard - Cowen

Analyst · Walter Pritchard with Cowen. Please proceed

Hi, most of my questions have been asked and answered as well. Just, the last one was around seasonality of the business, I am just wondering how the different seasonality that you're experiencing here in the first half of the year impacts what you might expect in the second half, which we thought as it relates to your general pattern of the September quarter being stronger than the December quarter and seeing a pretty strong uplift in March?

Bob Hammer

President

Yes, typically, I don't think we have said in the past, if you go back five years, we had a number of quarters like this that are flat to down and prior to couple of fiscal years, our Q1 was slightly up. And that's, if you look at the underlying business this quarter should have been slightly up and it was not. But, our Q2, I am not sure you can go by past dynamic, because we are seeing a different dynamic of the business. We are seeing the company shift to a much larger enterprise deals, we talked a lot about that during the call. We are seeing a significant product line shift. We said our ADIM products were up over a 100% versus last year, and we are seeing distribution at the lower-end being affected. So, I am not sure it's normal seasonality, but more tied to the dynamic of the growth of the company. The wildcard here is that we haven't see yet is do we see any negative impact from this economy globally.

Walter Pritchard - Cowen

Analyst · Walter Pritchard with Cowen. Please proceed

Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

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