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Commvault Systems, Inc. (CVLT)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, Jan 28, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the third quarter 2015 CommVault earnings conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the meeting over to Mr. Michael Picariello.

Michael Picariello

Management

Thanks for dialing in today for our fiscal third-quarter 2015 earnings call. With me on the call are Bob Hammer, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer; Al Bunte, Chief Operating Officer; and Brian Carolan, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I’d like to remind everyone that statements made during this call, including in the question and answer session at the end of the call, may include forward-looking statements including statements regarding financial projections and future performance. All of these statements that relate to our beliefs, plans, expectations, or intentions regarding the future are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor Provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are based on our current expectations. Actual results may differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties such as competitive factors, difficulties and delays inherent in the development, manufacturing, marketing, and sale of products, software products and related services, and general economic conditions. For a discussion of these and other risks and uncertainties affecting our business, please see the risk factors contained in our annual report in Form 10K and our most recent quarterly report on Form 10Q and in our other SEC filings, and in the cautionary statement contained in our press release and on our website. The company undertakes no responsibility to update the information in this conference call under any circumstance. In addition, the development and timing of any product release as well as any of its features or functionality remain at our sole discretion. Our earnings press release was issued over the wire services earlier today and also has been furnished to the SEC as an 8K filing. The press release is also available on our investor relation’s website. On this conference call we will provide non-GAAP financial results. A reconciliation between the non-GAAP and GAAP measure can be found in table four accompanying the press release and posted on our website. This conference call is also being recorded for replay and is being webcast. An archive of today’s webcast will be available on our website following the call. I will now turn the call over to our CEO and President, Bob Hammer.

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Thank you for joining our fiscal third quarter 2015 earnings call. We continue to make good progress against our business transformation and operational performance objectives. The financial results were for Q3 ’15 were in line with our expectations going into the quarter after factoring the significant negative impact of the changes in foreign currency exchange rates. Many of the key elements of our current transformation are now in place and the pace of our transformation is accelerating. This transformation is designed to bring us back to historical financial performance in the second half of next fiscal year by implementing pricing, packaging, and distribution changes that are better aligned with changes in the market and improving the productivity of our sales teams. I am pleased to report that we’re making solid progress in building a foundation to get us back to performance in the second half of this fiscal year. For example, the initial market response to our standalone virtualization solution set which includes VM backup recovery and Cloud management solutions, exceeded both revenue and new account expectations. Over 200 accounts purchased this product in the quarter, over half of which were new customers. These results are encouraging. We expect to release additional new standalone products in March which I will address later on in the call. Let me briefly summarize the Q3 financial results. Total revenues were $153 million flat year-over-year and up 1% sequentially. Software revenue was $71.7 million down 9% year-over-year and 3% sequentially. Services revenue was $81.3 million and grew 10% year-over-year and was down 1% sequentially. On a sequential constant currency basis, total revenue is $156.9 million. On a sequential constant currency basis, software revenues is $73.7 million and services revenue is $83.2 million. On a year-over-year sequential quarterly basis, foreign currency exchange rates had an…

Brian Carolan

Management

I will now cover some key financial highlights for the third quarter of fiscal year 2015. Total revenues for the quarter were $153 million, representing flat year-over-year growth and an increase of 1% sequentially. For the quarter, we reported software revenue of $71.7 million, which was down by 9% over the prior year period and up 3% sequentially. During the quarter, foreign currency movements had an adverse impact on the reported revenues. On a constant currency basis, total revenues were up 3% year-over-year and 4% sequentially and software revenues were down 6% year-over-year and up 6% sequentially. On a year-over-year constant currency basis, foreign currency rates negatively impacted software revenue by $2.7 million and services revenue by $2.2 million for a total of $4.9 million. On a sequential constant currency basis, fx rates negatively impacted software revenue by $2 million and services revenue by approximately $1.9 million for a total of $3.9 million. For the quarter, our US operations generated 55% of total revenues, resulting in a 1% year-over-year increase while revenue from international operations generated the balance, resulting in a 1% year-over-year decrease. On a year-over-year constant currency basis, international revenues were up 6% year-over-year. Revenue from enterprise deals, which we define as deals over $100,000 in software revenue in a given quarter, decreased by 24% over the prior year period and 6% sequential. Our average enterprise deal size was approximately $248,000 during the current quarter compared to $284,000 in the prior year period and $281,000 in the prior quarter. Software revenue from non-enterprise deals increased 13% over the prior year period and 15% sequentially. As noted, on our prior earnings call, we continue to focus on expanding our midmarket distribution channel. For the quarter, software revenues derived from direct distribution increased 11% over the prior year period and…

N. Robert Hammer

Management

As mentioned on last quarter’s earnings call, we are making progress on our plans to return to historical growth rates. We have the markets, the products, the distribution, and the financial wherewithal, to significantly improve financial performance. Our vision and strategy are clearly defined and we have added critical new resources and have made the structural changes to the organization that executive on that strategy. In order to achieve our FY ’16 financial objectives we’re focused on the core issues which negatively impacted revenue earnings growth which were the shift in both the market and competition which required significant changes to the pricing packaging messaging as well as go to market strategies of our products, and secondly, the need to improve the productivity of the Americas sales organization. As I mentioned last quarter, our product initiatives are now being driven by our business unit structure which is providing much more comprehensive leadership to our product initiatives. As Brian discussed, our new pricing structure is enabling us to more effectively address customer buying preferences as well as the sales and distribution needs of CommVault partners. I will now provide additional details against our Q3 ’15 products and sales initiatives and an update on our Q4 ’15 product initiatives, and the progress we have made on our next generation platform. In regard to progress on our Q3 product initiatives, the first one is virtualization and recovery. We launched best in class data management solutions for virtualized environments including data management, data protection, and archiving for both on premise and in the Cloud. The virtualization products [indiscernible] included best in class capabilities for deduplication, security, and native copy capabilities that allow users to directly recover native production copies from our content store. The initial market reception for these virtualization standalone solutions was encouraging.…

Michael Picariello

Management

Operator, can we please open the call for questions?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Joel P. Fishbein, Jr. – BMO Capital Markets.

Joel P. Fishbein, Jr.

Analyst

I have one quick question and clarification. I’ll start with the clarification. Brian, you talked about the fx impact to margins and I think I missed it, but clearly there was a significant amount of headwind. Can you just give us those numbers again real quick?

Brian Carolan

Management

On margins for the quarter, we were affected by $0.02 on the bottom, $0.02 negative impact on fx.

Joel P. Fishbein, Jr.

Analyst

Then Bob, you talked a little bit about the pipeline improving. Can you just go into a little bit of color there? Is it the high end deals, is it the midmarket, is it both? Then the other question I had there was on Westcon, in terms of distribution how they’re doing?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

The comment specifically referred to an improvement in our big deal pipeline in Q4 versus Q3. There is potential for some upside in the midmarket tied to our standalone solution sets and last quarter we didn’t see those products turn up in the pipeline because they all spun up and went in the quarter which is quite encouraging so we’ll see how we do with that as we progress through Q4. I will mention that certain of our high velocity partners have launched significant programs tied to those standalone product in the current quarter.

Joel P. Fishbein, Jr.

Analyst

The high end pipeline has improved versus Q3 from that standpoint and I’m assuming its improved throughout fiscal 2015 as well, correct?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Let me see if I understand the question, this is our last quarter of the fiscal year so hopefully we close the year well but as Brian mentioned, we still have fx headwinds. But, we expect this current quarter to be up sequentially over Q3.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jason Ader – William Blair & Company.

Jason Ader

Analyst

Bob, CommVault’s single integrated solution with the capacity based pricing has been a key part of your marketing message and competitive advantage over the last five years, and so I guess two questions on that. How much of the market is moving away from this towards standalone offerings? Is this just the midmarket or is it enterprise as well? Then secondly, how does this change your ability to really differentiate your products and your marketing message as well?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Number one, there is still a big strategic need in large enterprises for the platform and we’re still driving lot of revenue from that and we still see a big need in enterprises for that platform. There is no question though that point products are gaining traction both in the midmarket and the enterprise, but some of that is because customers don’t know we have a standalone product that can solve these problems. So, by expanding our platform and adding a series of best in class products, both for the enterprise and midmarket, we have the best of both worlds. When you get to a CIO, they don’t want to be dealing with managing 15 to 20 standalones if they have the opportunity to bring all these under one single management schema that is a lot more efficient both to manage, it’s much more efficient to support, and it’s certainly much more cost effective overall, particularly if the solutions are consistently best in class. We feel quite good about our current position one, in expanding the platform and two, providing the standalone products which can help our positioning enterprise not only from the midmarket channel but provide ability for our enterprise sales force to more easily establish positions in large enterprise accounts. We’re feeling really good about the strategy. In other words, I think your report was accurate but it’s not that enterprise customers are more comfortable with standalone products. The issue was a number of new competitors entered the market with some pretty good standalone solutions and if there were not alternatives to that, they were willing to deploy them. But now we’re giving our customers the best of both worlds, ability to deploy standalone in certain situations or deploy a unified platform and that is critically important by the way, when you start getting into things like compliance, legal, and analytics, because now you’ve got the ability to have all your data under one virtualized management schema for those different use cases.

Jason Ader

Analyst

What inning do you think we’re in, in terms of this transformation of the company towards, as you called it, best of both worlds where we have the ability to sell the standalone products, best in class standalone as well as the full platform?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

First inning is the way I would describe it, but we’re off the ground is the point I was making, and we’re accelerating very quickly. All the distribution pieces are in place, the products are in place, we’re coming out with a lot more products so we only see acceleration from here. But last quarter was the first real quarter of our push into the market with these standalones so I would call it inning number one. But, we’re really positioned to accelerate from here. Al, do you want to add anything?

Alan G. Bunte

Analyst

I would say probably inning two or in that range Jason, but I’d also say the starting pitching is still in place, we haven’t brought in relievers yet. Back to Bob’s point on point level versus integrated suite, a couple paths that remain there. One is there’s still a high degree of synergy between our point level products and two, the platform being more operational and orchestration kind of capabilities is still a huge value add. It’s just now we give them more options between different enterprise suites, if you will. We’ll continue to do that, by the way, going forward. It won’t just be we’ll have a point level product or the whole enchilada. It will be paths and different combinations of point levels going up.

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Al was correct on all of that and additional functionality is coming into play and it’s becoming much more important, that’s security. I’m not talking about security from the firewall, I’m talking about when someone gets into the firewall using our substantial capability to prevent access from data. You’ve read about breaches here and we’ve got technology to solve that problem and some of our key customers are recognizing this and wanting us to make sure that those processes and secure processes are deployed across all the different data use cases. That’s another reason why point products represent a problem and it’s a big problem that we can solve for key enterprise accounts.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Aaron C. Rakers – Stifel Nicolaus.

Aaron C. Rakers

Analyst

I’ve got two questions. Kind of building on Jason’s question and the commentary there, can you talk a little bit about your ability to, I think you said, modestly or mitigate some of the churn within the sales force and where you stand on hiring right now? I guess kind of the same question, what inning are you in in terms of realigning or addressing the change of kind of go to market or product portfolio with your sales force organization? Again, I do have a follow up.

N. Robert Hammer

Management

I’m going to talk and I’ll let Al jump in. I think it just starts with having the right products that are price positioned and packaged for the market to make it easy for your sales force to sell. Then training them and enabling them to make those sales. By expanding our product portfolio, that’s number one. Two, if you do that effectively you’re now making your channel more capable and that provides more leverage. Thirdly, when Ron Miller took over the Americas’ sales force, he was looking at ways to make the sales force a lot more productive by just doing a lot better job of realigning sales territories and then taking existing resources, overlay resources and other resources, and make sure we’re getting the most productive value from them in terms of generating revenue. It’s not one answer to that, but we’ve made progress and I’d say significant progress, across all those dimensions over the last quarter. As a result, we made progress on retention. Not where we need to be, but we clearly made progress there. If you look at the numbers, we have a lot of sales capacity in place so now we’re adding incremental capacity, but that capacity issues isn’t as big a problem as it was going back a few quarters ago because we have added a lot of resources. So, our main focus now is productivity of the resources we have and driving additional revenue which, if we’re successful doing that, drives topline growth and drops right to the bottom. That’s what we’re doing. It’s a multidimensional effort and we made significant progress on almost every dimension that I just discussed.

Aaron C. Rakers

Analyst

As a follow up, kind of adjacent to the point product solution discussion, can you talk a little bit about the Cloud? Earlier this week we saw some very continued rapid growth out of Microsoft and even talking about moving workloads more aggressively to the Clouds, particularly backup recovery and so on and so forth. Can you talk about your relationship with Microsoft and how that Cloud business or CSP business has evolved?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Just in general, we have an extremely close relationship with Microsoft. For example, internal to Microsoft, the internal operations for all practical purposes run on CommVault and the reason that CommVault was selected there was to enable Microsoft internally to move as much of their data as they can to their Cloud. I’ll let Al expand on that because we’re doing a lot in that area obviously, and underneath the covers here it’s a prime area of growth for us.

Alan G. Bunte

Analyst

On that point I guess I’d just point you to the products that Bob highlighted that we’re announcing and launching this quarter, particularly the Cloud solution sets. Primarily those are structured around the areas that we’re seeing a lot of interest in utilizing Cloud compute which is disaster recovery tasks, archive, and even some backup, and of course, file share for mobile environments. You take those kind of use cases and that’s attracting a lion’s share of not only interest but Cloud utilization as we see it with the big guys. Obviously, we’re addressing it, putting solutions together. They can be standalone solutions sets, they can also work within our suite of products, and as Bob said, some of those are targeted a little bit more to our favorite partners out there than other areas.

N. Robert Hammer

Management

In a broader context, the value prop is shifting along a whole series of dimensions. It’s shifting from the old data protection or backup to advance recovery models, but a lot more sophisticated than some of the new startups that are making a lot of noise in the market, because underneath that recovery model you still need two things: sophisticated data protection; and security with the ability to seamlessly move data between on premise, traditional, private Cloud, public Cloud, and move data between different Cloud providers. The value of our software is clearly shifting and we’re making those changes to the platform as well as, as Al described, to the point solutions we’re bringing to market. In addition, we have discussed the next turn of our platform with Microsoft and have gotten a very strong response from them in terms of the value of that platform to them in managing data on premise, mobile, and in the Cloud and what we can do to orchestrate all of that. They’re real excited about that. We consider Microsoft a key partner and there’s a massive amount of activity going on between the two companies and they’re a good partner to work with.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Brent Bracelin – Pacific Crest Securities.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst

Two questions for me, one for Bob and one for Brian. I’ll start with you Bob. Obviously, the last years have been tough, as we think about the business here, license growth is at the lowest in five years, op margins are the lowest in four years, but it does sound like business fundamentals are stabilizing, you’re optimistic about next year. My question for you is with $365 million in cash and investments, north of $100 million of cash flow, why would you not get more aggressive with the buyback and would you consider taking on debt to get more aggressive if you feel confident in the future of this business?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

I’m not going to answer that question.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst

Brian, we’ll ask you this question. Software pricing, clearly you’re rolling out several new standalone software solution sets, you have a new version of software coming later this year, the core product. Have you evaluated the potential to make a wholesale shift to subscription model or are you firmly entrenched in the concept that you’re going to have a multipronged approach to selling your software?

Brian Carolan

Management

Yes, we have considered that. We’ve been running internal models, we’re looking at those scenarios. We plan on making our move gradually at this point in time. Our objective is to get back to strong revenue and earnings growth rates while transitioning gradually to more term based and subscription based pricing. Just one point on that, is a lot of these new pricing options that we’re coming out with especially, on our virtualization, our VM products, we’re actually seeing a good pull through for other products as well. There’s not a tremendous amount of ASP deterioration on that. Actually, it helps to drive some other products as well, so we’re pleased with that result.

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Let me be clear, the strategy here is obviously we want to sustain long term growth for the company and be aligned with the way the market is acquiring products. On the other hand, we have a very clear focus on shareholder value and we think we can manage the move to term or subscription based pricing while at the same time significantly improving our revenue and earnings growth rates.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Abhey Lamba – Mizuho Securities USA, Inc.

Abhey Lamba

Analyst

As you look the [indiscernible] in the second half of fiscal ’16 and beyond, as you get back to the historical growth rates, which products will be the major drivers of growth and how will that be different from what we saw a year ago when you were at similar growth rates?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

I’m going to summarize it and Al will discuss it because we’ve got all these models and they’re quite granular. But, the value proposition, as we talked about, in the enterprise shifts from call it a backup model certainly to more recovery, archiving, legal compliance, analytics model and the management and orchestration of processes across the enterprise. Then these point products, each one of them, has significant potential whether it’s mobile, or appliances, or virtualized VM and Cloud orchestration solutions. The growth going forward is going to look a lot different than the growth divers going forward. They’re going to look a lot different than our historical growth drivers.

Alan G. Bunte

Analyst

I think that’s right on the money, particularly the recovery to the archive or what we call internally the active archive kind of use cases, and by the way, as Bob was referring to security kind of positioning in future sets and potentially products there, we believe strongly that being able to manage data knowing the content has lots of implications, the least of which would be security. We think that’s all extremely important here. Again, as we go along, we also won’t abandon our core product sets. We still see a great deal of need, demand, particularly for large scale operations of core data protection products. We are introducing our appliances, both the highly integrated one and maybe at some point a more software defined one, that we see a lot of growth out of that core data protection [family].

Abhey Lamba

Analyst

In that light, your revenue growth is expected to get back to historical rates but margins are going to be significantly [low]. Do you see a path to historical margins or are we at a new level and we should kind of build it off of the current level?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

It will take us a couple of quarters but we are clearly – all our plans to be clear, actually have profitability accelerating a lot faster than topline in the second half. You do that with a combination of improved revenue growth and managing your op ex to drive operating margin leverage. Look, we’ve done this before in the past but clearly, the company got into this situation with shift in the market and as Brian mentioned, when we got out of Dell, I mean, Dell was down 65%, we had to backfill that well and solve the Americas’ problem. Those are the issues we’ve been focusing at and as I mentioned earlier, we’re making really good solid progress against all three of those issues in terms of swinging the company back. But to your point earlier, it’s going to look different in terms of some of the major growth drivers into addition to as Al mentioned, our core.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Michael Turits – Raymond James & Associates.

Michael Turits

Analyst

Just a question in terms of the mechanics on the margin guide down. Now you’re expecting margins 150 bips or so lower than previous fiscal ’15. The revenue came in in line this quarter with where we were so I was wondering if you were expecting revenue to come in significantly lower than what the street is for next quarter, because otherwise I was wondering really what the big impact to margins would be?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Brian will go through, but it was fx was the major change in the margins.

Brian Carolan

Management

Absolutely, I mean, fx had the most significant impact on the change in our margin guide for fiscal ’15.

Michael Turits

Analyst

Does that mean that you’re probably not comfortable with the revenue consensus for next quarter? Another way of putting it is what do you think the actual fx impact will be on the next quarter?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

It’s in the range where consensus is.

Brian Carolan

Management

We still expect to be up sequentially, but we remain cautious of current fx conditions.

N. Robert Hammer

Management

What Brian is saying is, at these current levels of fx the consensus is reasonable. But, if we got hit with another big currency drop then we’ll have to deal with it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Andrew Nowinski – Piper Jaffray.

Andrew Nowinski

Analyst

Just a question, if you look back at your historical software launches with Simpana eight, nine, 10, your software license growth had bottomed out in the quarter prior to launching the new version, perhaps because customers are waiting for the new version. Do you think the pending launch of [indiscernible] may have impacted software revenue this quarter, and would you expect software revenue growth to follow historical trends and perhaps rebound when the new platform is launched this March quarter?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

The answer is the launch of new products has zero impact on [indiscernible]. The only impact from our new platform launch this quarter is a series of significant point level products that will add to topline revenue growth in FY ’16. We’re launching them late this quarter so there’s going to be no impact from those products in Q4. Those products will start impacting Q1/Q2 next fiscal year.

Andrew Nowinski

Analyst

Just a quick follow up, I know you’ve been reluctant to talk about the NetApp partnership, but you did make a fairly major announcement this quarter with them leveraging your E Series and other vendors like Symantec have had success with this appliance based model so since you’re only recognizing software revenue from that partnership, is there a chance that that could bring your software revenue growth back to historical levels sooner than expected if it ramps up?

A - N. Robert Hammer

Analyst

I’ll put it this way, there’s certainly significant potential for the appliances to get back to historical growth rates. One is large adoption by the appliance in the market. Our appliance is just not an appliance, it is a best in class product utilizing an HP Server and certainly NetApp storage. The appliance was engineered by us and as I mentioned earlier, from the standpoint of cost, manageability, flexibility, functionality, it is a standout product so we expect to have good success with that product in the market. This is the first of a series, as Al mentioned. There will be additional appliances, additional functionality. We’re launching a gateway this quarter. Some of these appliances will go virtual downstream so they can be deployed in the Cloud. We have adopted that as a key part of our product strategy going forward.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Brad Zelnick – Jefferies.

Brad Zelnick

Analyst

I just want to go back to the comments made in the prepared remarks and another question that was asked about the shift to subscription and term based licensing. I think in the prepared remarks you had said it could impact future revenues. I think we understand this is what the market is looking for and at the same time you’re balancing this with a focus on traditional fundamentals like revenues and cash flow growth. But, how do you think about the risk that customers move even faster in this direction and how that might impact your plans to return to historical growth in the second half of ’16?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

That’s a real good question. We’ve put a lot of effort on that and that is the balancing act in terms of how we price package, we think we can manage it. If we do a really good job of on the fundamentals on the [indiscernible] perpetual models. If it accelerates that could be more additive than causing big problem with earnings growth. We clearly picked a strategy to accomplish both. Underneath by the way, our subscription revenue has grown pretty substantially underneath the numbers that you see. It’s growing at about a, call it 50% plus, growth rate underneath the numbers you see here. We think we can manage it, but at the end of the day that’s going to be a big plus for us not a minus as it still provides – in addition to our capacity based license we’re starting to build a pretty good annuity just on either subscription or term based pricing. It’s a big asset we have and we’ve just got to manage it. But, you’re correct, I mean, could you see as Brian mentioned, a dislocation in the quarter here or there if we got some major deal that causes a blip? The answer is yes, but in the aggregate I think this is going to be a net plus as we manage it over the next few years.

Brad Zelnick

Analyst

If I can just ask one very quick follow up and not to be nitpicky, but I think last quarter you had said that you expected the next generation version of your platform to be in beta in Q3, now it looks like that’s imminently expected here in Q4. I know your execution capability when it comes to product development is solid, but has anything changed in terms of scope or new features that you might have added in?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

I don’t know if it was a misinterpretation there.

Alan G. Bunte

Analyst

We’re actually ahead of schedule.

N. Robert Hammer

Management

The scope has increased and we’re actually ahead of schedule. In fact, the Edge Drive that I mentioned earlier, that has the new code in it to enable us to do managed data in real time so we’re actually pulling some of the functionality of that new platform into some of these new standalone point solutions as we move along over the next several quarters. Actually, that whole new platform project is going better than expected and we’re feeling really good about it. It is very significant in terms of the underlying architecture and the changes we’re making and it all relates to managing data in these different Cloud environments.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Ittai Kidron – Oppenheimer.

Ittai Kidron

Analyst

I just wanted to dig a little bit into the near term guidance. You’ve somewhat endorsed I guess, the topline consensus but correct me if I’m wrong, on the bottom line you’re actually guiding right now to a very significant shortfall in the March quarter just by the virtue of reconciling into your annual margin guidance for fiscal ’15. Are you looking at $0.30 to $0.32 on the March quarter? Am I getting that right math wise?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

You can work the math. I think what Brian was saying is that that’s all fx related primarily. It’s not entirely but the vast majority of that is fx impact.

Ittai Kidron

Analyst

I guess the second question regarding your enterprise business which continues to deteriorate actually quite significantly on a year-over-year basis, do you think that you’ve reached a bottom over there? When you talk about a pipeline improving in large deals, how long do you think it takes to convert that pipeline into actual revenue? What would be the timeline you’d expect your enterprise large deal business to actually increase on a sequential basis?

A - N. Robert Hammer

Analyst

I was specifically talking about our large deal pipeline for the March quarter. We’re going to hit our numbers. We’re going to convert a big part of that pipeline this quarter. That’s what I was referring to is that our March quarter large deal pipeline. We’ve seen a pretty good improvement in that pipeline.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Srini Nandury – WR Hambrecht.

Srini Nandury

Analyst

You guys have been putting all these changes in your point products and new sales – new way to purchase software, so how does this change the productivity of the sales force [indiscernible]?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

Clearly one is if those sales teams ae getting a lot more leverage from the channel partners for let’s say 30% to 40% of the revenue, it makes it a lot easier for those sales teams to hit their numbers. Secondly, they have a more and better entry points into the enterprise with these point products. One, they’re best in class and they can compete against, as Jason Ader mentioned and is correct, other point level competitors in the enterprise. It helps the sales teams on both counts. Then, if you do a better job of aligning territories and better utilization of resources and overlays, it’s going to help these sales teams succeed and so there’s tremendous benefit obviously. As I said earlier, it always starts with we have the best products and then they’re priced and packaged in ways to make it easier for customers to buy. That’s both for your enterprise customers and makes it easier for your channel partners to sell them. We only have a data point, a pretty good solid data point, when we did this, the initial response was exceptionally good. Now, we have to build on that. Put three or four [quarters] together as the other products come out, and you’re going to see a different company here. Now, this just didn’t happen. As I mentioned, we started this in the summer of 2013. This just didn’t come out, we got caught in the funnel before we were able to execute on all of this.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Eric Martinuzzi – Lake Street Capital Markets.

Eric Martinuzzi

Analyst

I have a question regarding the new end point data protection offering. I know this is something you guys have talked about ever since Simpana 10 came out. I’m just curious to know sizing that market up is there a tam edition that this gets you into? What’s the competitive landscape here? What do you think the adoption is? Is this a sale to a new customer or is this an add on for an existing? Can you just go a layer deeper there please?

Alan G. Bunte

Analyst

Yes, if you get into the file share capabilities of this market versus just, call it traditional recovery, and I don’t have the exact numbers in my head, but it significantly expands your market opportunity. You do obviously, have new competitors like the Dropbox, BoxNet type of offerings out there. We think we’re very well differentiated against those folks. In terms of your question of how we want to take to the market, we want to actually kind of follow a compliance lead, particularly in larger enterprises where most times, as you talk about compliance, and I’m talking about legal, and email, and those kinds of use cases, most times the compliance side of the equation is fairly [indiscernible], especially as you’re talking about mobile. We’re looking to kind of lead with compliance then bring in archive and mobile capabilities to this marketplace. Again, as you get into then on the mobile side, back to that, you’ll now have recovery, this is all self-service, you’ll have self-service recovery, self-service share if you will, self-service search and find as well as it will now have compliance features that other guys can use in like a legal hold and those kinds of scenarios. Of course, overlaying this whole play with mobile here is advanced security across the board. Not only all the elements Bob’s been talking about, but several layers of encryption. We think it’s a huge differentiator frankly, just the security side of it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Philip Winslow – Credit Suisse Securities.

Philip Winslow

Analyst

Bob, I’m just wondering if you can give some color on the competitive landscape both in the enterprise side from the legacy vendors as well as midmarket from some of these emerging private companies?

N. Robert Hammer

Management

In the enterprise for these big large enterprise deals our major competitors are IBM, Symantec, and EMC and just overall I think, our competitive position there is strengthening. I think everybody is aware of what’s going on with these different competitors. I think technically we are accelerating our differentiation relative to all three of those competitors and certainly, we’ve got the sales force in place to do this. In addition to that, over the last several years we’ve built up really strong professional services capabilities to help our customers really understand their core objectives, use cases, and enable us to architect best in class solutions for them. It is more of a services led strategy, a much more comprehensive consultative type strategy in these big enterprises than it was several years ago and small competitors don’t have those capabilities. Secondly, in the areas of virtualization, there’s been a lot of noise on using production copies for recovery which is an important functionality for not all but certain use cases and you’ve got to combine that recover capability or fast access, secure access to the data, with how do you manage retention and archive it for both active near term and long near term. You’ve got to combine all that. So, both in the enterprise we strengthened it with the platform itself with services and now with these best in class point products both in the virtualization and the recovery space and appliances, all those standalone products, by the way, help us obviously significantly with our channel partners, because they do stand out. We’ve gotten some really good commitments from some very large channel partners and they’re in the market starting this quarter. You’ll see some of these partners really spin up [indiscernible] campaigns. In summary, our current strategy helps us with our traditional competitors in the enterprise and significantly strengthens our position in the midmarket.

Operator

Operator

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