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Cyngn Inc. (CYN)

Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 9, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Cyngn Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference to your host, Ben Mimmack, Head of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Ben Mimmack

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone on the call for joining us today. The press release announcing Cyngn’s results for the second quarter ended June 30th, 2023, is available at the Investors section of the company’s website at investors.cyngn.com. A replay of this broadcast will also be made available on the website approximately one hour after the conclusion of this call. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call and any accompanying information discussed herein contains certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements can be identified by terms such as anticipate, believe, expect, future, plan, outlook and will and include, among other things, statements regarding the company’s continued development of its commercial products, expectations regarding sales and/or revenues, growth strategy, ability to deliver sustainable long-term value, ability to respond to the changing environment and operational focus. Although the company believes that the expectations reflected in its forward-looking statements are reasonable as of today, those statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ dramatically from those projected. There can be no assurance that those expectations will prove to be correct. Information about the risks associated with investing in Cyngn is included in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which we encourage you to review before making an investment decision. The company does not assume any obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events, changes in market conditions, or otherwise, except as required by law. On today’s call, the company’s Chairman and CEO, Lior Tal, will discuss recent operating highlights; Chief Financial Officer, Don Alvarez, will follow with a review of the company’s financials for the second quarter of 2023. Lior will then return to make a few concluding remarks before opening the floor for questions. And with that, I will turn the call over to Lior.

Lior Tal

Analyst

Thanks Ben. Good afternoon everyone. During the second quarter, we made significant progress in all areas of the business, but particularly on a plan to sign-up new commercial customers and deployments. In a moment, I'll talk in more detail about the major announcements we've made over the past few weeks. But first, for those new to our story, I want to give a brief overview of Cyngn and the significant opportunity we're delivering on. We're an autonomous vehicle solution company that's focused on addressing industrial uses for autonomous vehicles. Our vehicle agnostic software enables industrial enterprises to harness autonomous driving to overcome labor shortages, increase safety, and reduce the costs associated with labor. Our Enterprise Autonomy Suite, or EAS, enables vehicles to use artificial intelligence to navigate the world around it. And as one of the pioneering AI development companies, we have been excited to see the increasing proliferation of AI into all aspects of life. The use of AI to improve safety, productivity, and efficiency in manufacturing, logistics and other industrial sectors is on the cusp of transforming the way work gets done in Cyngn is in the vanguard of the effort. Industrial firms today continue to experience significant labor shortages, which are destined to remain a bottleneck of demographic changes and worker sentiment impact the pool of available workers. In fact, in the July Jobs Report for National Federation of Independent business, 92% of business owners surveyed reported few or no applications for positions they were trying to fill, a two-point increase from June. Companies are also focused on improving the safety of the workplace environment while improving efficiency to compete with peers who are deploying the latest automation technologies. Given these needs and based on the number of industrial vehicles in operation in the world today, we…

Don Alvarez

Analyst

Thanks, Lior. Turning to our financial results for the second quarter and first six months of 2023, we booked $551,000 and $1.4 million in revenue, respectively. The Q2 revenue represents our third consecutive revenue-generating quarter as a public company. Substantially all of the revenue we recorded for the second quarter and the first six months of 2023 was related to the two non-recurring engineering contracts that we signed with Arauco and a global heavy industrial equipment OEM to bring new autonomous vehicles to the market. Total costs and expenses in the second quarter were $7 million as compared to $4.6 million in the corresponding quarter of 2022, the increase was due in part to cost of revenue totaling $463,000 in the second quarter compared to zero in the second quarter of 2022. Costs and expenses were also higher as a result of $1.5 million increase in research and development expenses related to an increase in personnel added over the past 12 months to support the development of our technology. We anticipate that R&D expenses will continue to increase for the remainder of 2023. Second quarter G&A expenses were also higher year-over-year as a result of an increase in personnel-related costs, additional marketing and advertising expenses, higher legal and professional fees and increase in other G&A to support growth in the company. Our second quarter net loss was $6.4 million or $0.19 per basic and diluted share. This compares to a net loss of $4.6 million or $0.15 per basic and diluted share for the second quarter of 2022. Cyngn ended the first half of the year with unrestricted cash and short-term investments, totaling approximately $12.1 million. Working capital at the end of the quarter was $11.6 million, with stockholders' equity of $13.9 million. Additional detail on these numbers can be found in our earnings press release that we issued earlier today and the 10-Q, which we anticipate filing with the SEC later this week. That concludes our financial commentary and now I'd like to turn it back to Lior for his final remarks. Lior?

Lior Tal

Analyst

The last few months have seen some very exciting developments for Cyngn. On our last call, we said that we were focused on commercialization of our product and we have delivered. Since we spoke to you last, we have announced a partnership with BYD on our autonomous forklift project, launched a new vehicle type following our partnership with Motrec, announced an order for autonomous forklift chasers with a household name in the heavy equipment manufacturing industry to be delivered this summer, and announced an order for autonomous forklift with a rocket to be delivered next year. It is the hard work of everyone at Cyngn that is allowing us to meet our commitment to the market and I would like to thank everyone at the company for their effort so far this year. We intend to keep delivering on the opportunities we have created and I look forward to updating you on our future successes. Now, I would like to open the call up for analyst questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time we'll be conducting a question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Theodore O'Neill with Litchfield Hills Research. Please proceed with your question.

Theodore O'Neill

Analyst

Thank you, and congratulations on the good quarter. I first have a sort of a general question just about one of the challenges of the autonomous EV business in general is the cost and number of sensors needed to operate safely. And I was wondering, if you could compare sort of that versus the cost and number of sensors you require to, you know, run inside a factory?

Ben Landen

Analyst

Hey. Theodore, this is Ben Landen here, thanks for the question. The when you compare to the EV, and I think largely this is driven by the automotive space and the cost associated with driving at high speeds and dealing with everything that needs to be dealt with out in the world, by design we chose the domains that we work in because they limit a lot of the problem space, which does a few things. One is it lets us have an earlier horizon to having finished products for our customers, which we're seeing now. Very different from a situation where you need to be able to pick up anywhere in some city and drop off anywhere in some city. So that goes -- that speaks to the product readiness and having a shorter horizon there. And the byproduct of that is since we're operating at lower speeds, since we're operating around trained personnel, not the general public that can do anything and surprise you out on the open road, that means we don't need to, for example, see 200 meters out in front of us so that we can see an object when we're traveling at 65, 70 miles per hour. We have, let's call it, the luxury of being able to enter into failsafe maneuvers, because we know the manufacturing facility that we're in. We know that there's not high traffic scenarios, if there is a situation where the break needs to be slammed, we can usually do that, which you can't do with a long-haul truck traveling 70 miles per hour, for example. And what that means is less sensors on the vehicle to cover all of the views that we need to operate safely. It means not as intensive of computing required, because you're analyzing a smaller space in the 3D world and so the bottom line ultimately comes back with if you look at the labor cost to human on-vehicle and have been travel around a warehouse. When you include the sensor kit, when you include the subscription cost of our EAS licenses, that still offers substantial savings to our customers compared to the old way of doing it, which was the only way to get work done was to have people sitting on the vehicles and doing mundane work.

Theodore O'Neill

Analyst

Okay. About the announcement with Arauco, in the August 8 press release, you say it could represent 20% of monthly cash burn, which by my math works out the $4 million or $5 million annually and targeting to start June 2024. So the two questions are, one, is my math right? And the second one is about the build plan. Is this sort of all 100 units go out at once or does this go out over a longer time period, say, for a year or more?

Don Alvarez

Analyst

I'll start backwards, so with the second question and then work to the first. We don't -- we haven't shared guidance as to what the ramp-up will look like for those 100. We, as well as our customer in signing that preorder have a joint mutual interest in getting those vehicles ramped up and delivering value. So we'll be working as closely as we can with our OEM partners, with the supply chain and with everything that we need to get in place to reach that first order ramp as quickly as it makes sense to do. And that only captures -- a portion of the fleet, there's quite a lot of room to grow beyond that, which we expect to be a process that will take time to saturate as much of their fleet with automation as we can, presents a very exciting opportunity there. And then, in terms of the numbers and your calculation, yes, you're roughly on the right page. That is where that 20% number derives from. So it's based roughly around the current burn rate that we have that's been publicly shared. And so where we see the opportunity, and we're excited at the opportunity to grow far beyond that, but to even have the initial order be as meaningful of a chunk as it is into our operating expenses.

Theodore O'Neill

Analyst

Okay. So if it ramps up, it could be 100% of the cash burn.

Don Alvarez

Analyst

Yes, without going as far as providing numbers that are not mind to provide, the initial order represents a, let's say, a very small portion of the total opportunity with Arauco in that yes, I expect that, that would be a potential future that we would reach where we far surpass 20% and even the current burn rate with just that customer which is true from -- as you can see from some of the numbers that were provided in Lior's statements as well on the order of 500 vehicles when you consider a $4,000 blended average of license prices, which we're already taking a substantial chunk out of with Arauco’s initial order alone and that there are precedents from other automation providers who have already surpassed those kinds of volumes. We're quite positive on that momentum.

Theodore O'Neill

Analyst

Thank you very much,

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Rommel Dionisio with Aegis Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Rommel Dionisio

Analyst

Yes. Thanks. good afternoon. You guys have had a really impressive flurry of press releases and contract signing slightly. And I wonder, Lior, if you could just give us a little color on what is kind of driving this huge flurry. I mean, are you seeing a technological leap? Is it some new personnel on the marketing front that's really brought a lot of success here near term. I wonder if you could just give us a little more color in terms of how you’re seeing such success in a rapid amount of time. Congratulations on that. Thanks. A – Lior Tal: Rommel, good to hearing from you again. So the one is what you alluded to, we grew the team. We brought in some very important key functions, including engineering leadership, both on development and customer support success. We started building a very experienced sales team with years of experience in selling robotic solutions, industrial automation solutions. So a lot of that momentum you're seeing is based on the impact that, that new team that has been added in the last quarter or so I have made on our operation. But also a lot of it is just the recognition of the market and the opportunity that Industrial Automation brings to their flexibility, cost structure and ability to compete with other companies. And a lot of it is coming as inbound into the company. The more people see these announcements, the more we're getting interest from new prospective customers.

Rommel Dionisio

Analyst

Great. And just a quick follow-up. I know in prior calls, you've talked about the opportunity in the mining industry specifically. And I wonder if you could just give us some of your updated thoughts there. Thanks. A – Lior Tal: Yes, of course. So the main focus of the company remains material handling for predominantly logistics, manufacturing facilities. These are usually very large warehouses or industrial complexes. And there, you see vehicles like are readily available to Stockchaser, the upcoming Tugger and next year's forklift. That still remains the main focus of the company. This is the one that is closest to scaled commercial deployment. Other applications, including heavy industry or the mining are more in R&D phase, and these are the ones that contribute to the in rebased revenue. But clearly, where the company focuses on generating license-based recurring revenues, and this is where the sales team is focused on lining up these additional preorders like Arauco for 2024 and onwards.

Rommel Dionisio

Analyst

Great. Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.