Randall Stuewe
Analyst · Stephens
Well, it's a -- the Bakery side, the new plant in North Baltimore, Ohio, has now been operating for, I don't know, 18, 19 months now. So at the end of the day, as we looked at planning our Bakery system, we're going to try to grow it. Right now, from a budgetary planning perspective, we look at it and say, we think volumes, given the economy for 2012, will be relatively flat. There's lots of opportunity out there for big accounts and some other things that come due this year that maybe we can grow it. But from our perspective, we're going into it that our plants are full. We're starting up a new transfer station on some Darling real estate here in Texas. So we're going to try to grow it, Farha. But from a planning perspective, we're saying, flat here for '12, maybe a little uptick. From our Rendering side, what we want to compare is not Q4 to Q3, but Q1 to Q1 of last year, with -- when we had Griffin underneath. We had one of the largest raw material input quarters, and especially January, in the history of the company last year. So probably won't be what we saw there because we had lots of slaughter. The chicken guys were liquidating flocks, we had tons of deadstock. Cattle guys running good. And so we're not seeing that type of volume, Q1 over Q1, but we're seeing very similar rates to what we saw in fourth quarter here. I think it's fair to say we've seen the poultry guys level off. We're feeling a little more confident that we're going to see an uptick in the back half of the year with those guys. From the beef side, we've not seen that type of slowdown yet, although what we typically see in Q1 is that -- in December through February, March, is that heavy deadstock time. And we just did not see it because we've not had those Arctic blasts, the weather changes in the Midwest that brought on the millions and millions of pounds of deadstock last year. We didn't have that. So from our perspective, it's kind of flat. Little bit of new growth in accounts there to offset some of the probably industry cutback. So from our perspective, pretty flat.