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Ducommun Incorporated (DCO)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 6, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Second Quarter 2018 Ducommun Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to the Investor Relations Advisor. Sir, you may begin.

Chris Witty

Analyst

Thank you, and welcome to Ducommun's 2018 Second Quarter Conference Call. With me today are Steve Oswald, Chairman, President and CEO; and Doug Groves, Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. I'm going to discuss certain limitations to any forward-looking statements, regarding future events, projections or performance, that we may make during the prepared remarks for the question-and-answer -- or the question-and-answer session that follows. Certain statements today that are not historical facts, including any statements as to future market conditions, results of operations, or restructuring plans and financial projections, are forward-looking statements under the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and, therefore, our perspective. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors, which could cause actual results to differ materially from the future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Although we believe that the expectations reflected in our forward-looking statements are reasonable, we can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. In addition, estimates of future operating results are based on the company's current business, which is subject to change. Particular risks facing Ducommun include, among others, the cyclicality of our end-use markets, the level of U.S. government defense spending, legal and regulatory risks, management changes, the cost of expansion and acquisitions and competition. These risks and others are described in our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC, and our forward-looking statements are subject to those risks. Statements made during the call are only as of the time made, and we do not intend to update our -- any statements made in this presentation, except if and as required by regulatory authorities. In addition, all comparisons on today's call recognize the implementation of the FASB Accounting Standards Codification, or ASC, Topic 606, covering revenue recognition policies on current results. Please see the company's filings for further description of this change and a comparison to the prior policy, ASC 605. This call also includes non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our filings with the SEC for a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures referenced on this call to the most similar GAAP measures. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Steve Oswald for a review of the operating results. Steve?

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

Thanks, Chris, and thank you, everyone for joining us today for our 2018 Second Quarter Conference Call. As usual, I'll begin by providing an overview of recent developments of the company, after which Doug will review our financial results in detail. Q2 performance is certainly a very good step forward for the company. The significant progress clearly shows the impact from many initiatives put in place since my arrival in January 2017 to enhance top line growth, expand margins and generally produce more consistent, positive financial results. Revenue for the quarter rose nearly 10% year-over-year to $154.8 million as we benefited from strong demand across nearly every aspect of our business. It's great to see the benefits of our efforts as growth on key platforms and recent wins drive top line performance. In addition, the strong focus on operational excellence, advanced technology and our two acquisitions are strengthening Ducommun's position as the unique provider of a broader array of electronic and structural applications for the aerospace and defense industry. Ducommun grew margins nicely this quarter and as expected. The company's gross margin rose 210 basis points to 20.7% from 18.6% last year, reflecting higher volumes and improved mix. And our adjusted operating margin climbed 100 basis points to 5.7% from 4.7% in 2017. Notably, and I'm pleased to tell you, our structure's adjusted operating margin, which has been a key focus for us since I arrived, rose sequentially 440 basis points, 10.2% this quarter from 5.8% in Q1 and 540 basis points from 4.8% in Q4. I'm sure you'll agree that the progress is very encouraging and was helped by favorable product mix and increased volume. We also took another $5.4 million of restructuring charges this quarter, on top of the $11 million previously booked, in connection with our various…

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Thank you, Steve, and good day, everyone. As a reminder, my comparisons on today's call are on a year-over-year basis and recognize the implementation of the FASB Accounting Standards Codification, or ASC, Topic 606, covering revenue recognition policies on current year results. Please see the company's filings and today's press release for further description of this codification versus the prior policy, ASC 605. Revenue for the second quarter of 2018 was $154.8 million versus $140.9 million in the second quarter of 2017. This performance primarily reflects $16.1 million of higher sales to the company's commercial aerospace customers due to increased shipments for large, fixed-wing platforms, such as the Boeing 737 and the Airbus A320, as Steve mentioned. Ducommun's backlog rose to $823 million at the end of the quarter, up slightly from $820 million in Q1. And moving to gross profit. Our gross margin was 20.7% in the second quarter versus 18.6% in the prior year's comparable period. This increase year-over-year was primarily due to higher manufacturing volumes and favorable product mix as noted. SG&A was $21.2 million for the second quarter versus $19.6 million in 2017, with the increase primarily reflecting higher compensation and benefit costs and an increase in professional service fees, which included about $300,000 of acquisition cost for CTP in the second quarter. The company reported operating income for the second quarter of $5.6 million or 3.6% of revenue versus operating income of $6.6 million or 4.7% of revenue in the prior year period. On an adjusted basis, operating income for 2018 was $8.8 million versus 5 -- excuse me, was about 5.7% of sales, up 33% year-over-year. Our Q2 restructuring activities included approximately $3.6 million of charges within our Structural Systems segment, $0.7 million within Electronic Systems and $1.1 million at the corporate level, which…

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

Okay, thanks, Doug. And before we go to questions, just a few final comments. Basically, what we've accomplished since my coming on board in January of 2017, I'm happy to announce that Ducommun will host an Investor Day, it's our first in many years, on November 9 in New York. So November 9 in New York. Invitations to analyst, institutional investors and other key stakeholders will be coming in near future. And we really look forward to showcasing, obviously, some of our achievements but, most important, our plans for the future. So I just wanted to share that with you. And finally, looking forward to completing many initiatives, we've discussed, later this year and see -- seeing even more significant results in 2019. The investors in the company, our people and customers think it's really paying off. And we're positioning Ducommun, I think, well for higher growth and a stronger future. With that, operator, why don't we open the line for questions?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Edward Marshall of Sidoti & Company.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

So I want to talk about the structures business for a second. And I want to [indiscernible] if I could, I think it's a little early to see the restructuring benefits. I think you've been calling for the back half of '18 into '19 for the majority of that. Maybe we can look at [indiscernible]? What's behind the improvement there in structures?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Yes, Ed. Certainly the people piece of the restructuring is reading through. Some of the excess capacity that we've taken out will need a few more quarters to read through 100%. And as Steve mentioned, pricing is a part of the improvement in the business as we review programs that aren't meeting the [indiscernible] rates that we're expecting. Those are getting exited out of the portfolio. So we've been fortunate with the increase in demand, on the single-aisle particularly, that any of those revenue -- share gains that we've -- we're giving back to customers, we're compensating for with the single-aisle volume increases. So that's probably the two biggest pieces that help us see the margin. Then there was a product mix improvement as well in this quarter that we didn't have in the last quarter.

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

I'll take that, Doug. And one other -- obviously, Parsons now is pretty much finished with their work and getting things online as well. As you know, we're just better. Okay? We're better operationally. We're producing less scrap. Well, we're doing lots of things, I think, that are benefiting the margin improvements. And so, I think I'm happy to report that we're not there fully yet, things are coming together.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

I think, Doug, in your prepared remarks, you said that they can be lumpy and volatile quarter-to-quarter. Do you see this as the baseline for the business now? I mean is it something that you're going to improve upon for the remainder of the year into next? Or how do you look at the structures businesses? What's your vision for the structures businesses? You'll continue to build on this restructuring program and the other get-better-kind-of initiatives?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Sure. Well, clearly, we're very pleased with this quarter. But we're still marching towards high single-digit exiting this year. We're 8.1% at the halfway mark here. So that's certainly within our striking distance to -- for the full year, be at a high single-digit. But I don't think that the double-digit that we saw this quarter on an adjusted basis is the new baseline as you quoted. That was just the benefactor of some of the things we've been working on along with some of the product mix.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Got it. I just want to be clear too on the corporate expense line. Was there any adjustments or moves from the segment level down to the corporate level? I know the 3: kind of restructuring, compensation and professional service fees that you noted in that. But with the increase in that business and then the increase in the individual segments, I wonder if there's any kind of adjustment on that line?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

No, no, there were no reclassifications. The SG&A was a little higher than normal this quarter, but that's some acquisition-related costs in it as well as some other professional fees for some of the projects we're working on.

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

And restructuring at corporate. Yes, I mean, so it's all the same bucket, Ed.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

So what was the professional service fees? Could you quantify that number for me?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Well, sure, well, there was about $300,000 related to the acquisition of CTP. And then we had some other professional service fees for some of the special projects that we're working on. So we're not going to talk about what those projects are or how much we're spending on them, just -- other than they are important to our go-forward plans.

Edward Marshall

Analyst

Got it. And did you quantify the benefit [indiscernible] and maybe profit line from CTP?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

No, not anything further than what we said in the last quarter call, when we talked about CTP, which is -- it's a small business, about 4% of the revenues of our structures business, with a margin profile, that is about 3x better than the existing structures business, in that high single-digit area. So that's ...

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

And performing well.

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Yes, it's doing well, because look only in the -- we only had a 2.5 months here, so more to come on that.

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

Good news.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Mike Crawford of B. Riley FBR.

Michael Crawford

Analyst

Relative to your commercial fixed-wing business, there's been some reports that of 737 is kind of piling up in Washington. Has this been some maybe slow deliveries from some suppliers? Is that affecting the growth rate that you're seeing with any of your customers?

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

I'll say no, we haven't seen that. We're still marching to the rates. We haven't heard any communication from anyone as far as any issues or slowing down. So we're 110% running.

Michael Crawford

Analyst

Okay, great. And then on your M&A pipeline. So you've done a great job of acquiring these businesses with proprietary mix of products and higher margins. How would you characterize the pipeline the way you're looking at today?

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

Well, it's Steve again. I think it certainly it's good. Obviously, had a lot of discipline around that. I mentioned earlier, we have some excellent people working this. So it's good we have -- we're constantly, as you know, acquisitions opportunistic, right? So properties come on when they come on. So -- but rest assured that we're looking at everything, we're scrubbing detail and just seeing where possibly down the road things can add some value.

Michael Crawford

Analyst

All right, thanks and then final question, is: It looks like there was a particular jump in your Industrial backlog. So is that kind of a -- just a timing thing? Or is that business actually improving?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

No, it's just a timing thing. Those are generally pretty short order purchase orders we get in that part of the portfolio, so they -- it does jump around a little bit from a backlog perspective as well as even from a revenue perspective.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Klieve of NOBLE Capital Markets.

Benjamin Klieve

Analyst

First question about that business development effort on the back of the two acquisitions. Have you been able to gain traction with your legacy customers such as you think revenue from the 2 acquired product lines you can grow faster than the overall growth rate of the company here in the back half of the year or in 2019? Or is this still kind of too early to really -- you'll be able to quantify the traction of those efforts?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Yes, so there is some overlap in the customers, but part of our value proposition for these companies is to be able to get them into maybe some of the OEMs that they weren't in before. So we're actively working that, but I would say it's too early to say it's going to read through on the top line yet other than, for example, at our booth at the Farmborough Air Show a few weeks ago, we had nice representation from both CTP and our LDS business there at the air show with us. So they are getting exposed to our customers as well.

Benjamin Klieve

Analyst

And then there are a few questions I have regards to cash flow. First, you touched on CapEx expectations with $15 million to $17 million, I believe, you said for 2018. At this point, do you think that's a reasonable level for 2019 or do you see that picking up at all next year?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

No, it's probably staying within that range. I mean, that's been our historical average absent any big initiatives like we had over the last couple of years with the Parsons facility expansion, but it generally runs right in that range. Obviously, if we can get some more big wins, we're going to certainly spend the capital to support those.

Benjamin Klieve

Analyst

Right. Okay, perfect. And then with regards to the cash [indiscernible] on restructuring activities. Given that the structures side is -- seems to be pretty much complete, do you expect that you'd have a cash impact from the structuring and the electronics side to be roughly the same? Or do you think it will be less here in the second half of the year than you've seen so far?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Yes, I think it will be about the same, particularly with the exit of the Phoenix facility because there's a lease there that we're going to get out of, and then obviously, the employees that are impacted by it.

Benjamin Klieve

Analyst

Okay, perfect. And then one last question from me, again, on cash flow here. Given the ramp that you're looking at, especially in the commercial side, do you -- where do you see your working capital position today relative to where it will be over the next, say, 12 to 18 months? Do you think it's going to grow along with revenue growth? Or do you think maybe it will grow a bit slower? Kind of how do you see working capital expansion here coming up?

Douglas Groves

Analyst

Sure. well certainly, as we're moving facilities, there's a buildup of inventory, right, because we're always going to be sure we've got enough safety stock to protect our customers during the moves. And as rates ramp, particularly in structures, we do, from time to time, have min-max requirements that we're going to have to keep up with. So the inventory probably increases a little bit, but we've got a lot of initiatives in place to try and manage that to a moderate level, so that our historical 23%, 24% of revenue working capital number stays intact.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. I'm not showing any further questions at this time.

Stephen Oswald

Analyst

Okay. Okay. Again, let me just wrap it up. Certainly, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, certainly a step forward for the company. I really like what I'm seeing throughout: all the activity, the intensity, the focus, all those things that you need to create value for the customer and for the shareholders. So I'm pleased where we are. I just want to, again, thank our investors, analysts and everyone else for their continued support, and have a nice rest of the day and evening.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.