David Obstler
Analyst · Needham. Mike, your line is now open
Um, yeah, so on, on gross margins, I would, in general, we are happy with where they are and we did some small moves in it, I wouldn't read too much in the moves. I mean, there's a behind the scenes, like there's a number of things that are under that. We keep raising new functionality, at the same time we keep optimizing our code and use it, we actually use our products to optimize that quite a bit. And then we also keep getting better and better agreements with our cloud providers as we scale. So it is combination of all that is what you see in the gross margin number. We -- internally, we have to make a call always on whether we direct more effort at building new functionality or optimizing. And the way we manage that is when gross margins get a little bit low we put more effort on optimizing and when we are in a happier zone, like we redirect more effort on new products and new functionality into that. There's not a lot of change like, product mix doesn't really matter all that much on a gross margin perspective. And so there's no particular worries there. We think long term there are plenty of opportunities to improve margins, but right now the focus is on really shipping enough products to enough customers, making sure that the products get provided with as much value as possible while staying within a certain happy zone on the overall margin. In terms of the growth of workloads, look, I mean, as we said, we see growth across the customer base pretty much. We see growth of classical workloads in the cloud. We see large growth -- very large growth on the AI native side. We think that the one big catalyst for future acceleration will be those AI native applications or those AI applications, I should say, going into production for non-AI native companies for a much broader set of customers than the customers that are deploying these kind of applications to their -- in production. And as they do, they will also look less like just large cluster of GPUs and more like traditional applications because the GPU needs a database, it needs core application in front of it, it needs layers to secure it and authorize it and all the other things. So it's going to look a lot more like a normal application with some additional more concentrated compute and GPUs.