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Diageo plc (DEO)

Q1 2012 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 9, 2012

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Paul S. Walsh

Management

Good morning, and welcome to this interim results webcast. Deirdre and I are going to follow our usual format and speak for about 40 minutes on the key highlights of these results, then we'll be joined by our executive colleagues to take your questions. Today, we're also joined by Nick Blazquez and Randy Millian, as this is the first time we've reported our results across 5 regions. As you saw from our announcement this morning, our first half performance has been strong, and it's a balanced performance across regions and categories. In an environment of uneven global economic growth and the varying consumer trends, we have seen our performance improve in developed markets and continue to strengthen in the faster growth markets of the world. Stronger volume growth and improved price mix has accelerated our top line performance. Our volume performance improved in the developed markets, but it was the performance of our scotch, vodka and beer brands in the emerging markets, where volume was up 10%, which was the main driver of our overall growth. Together with the acquisition of Mey Içki and Serengeti Breweries, this increased our emerging markets business to almost 40% of the total. In markets where the economic trends are stronger, we have taken price, which together with almost a 20% volume growth of our super premium brands, drove a 4-percentage point price mix gain. This price mix, together with the cost savings we've delivered, expanded operating margin in a period in which we have significantly increased marketing spend behind our brands. Our first half performance of 9% organic operating profit growth and double-digit EPS growth underpins the confidence we have in our brands, in our routes-to-market and our people, and we are signaling this with a 7% increase in the interim dividend. However, this is an uncertain world, and the economic and political prospects in some markets in which we operate are challenging. We are cautious as to the trends we will face in the second half, but we believe this first half performance gives us the platform for which to deliver our medium-term goals. I'm going to stop there for now and hand over to Deirdre, who will look at our financial performance in more detail. Deirdre?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

Thank you, Paul. Good morning, everybody. At our November conference, I spoke about efficient growth. By that, I mean investing to drive the top line while generating margin improvement. This first half performance demonstrates that the investments we have made and continue to make in our brands and in our sales capabilities are delivering efficient growth. Our marketing spend was up again, 10% in this half, and as a percentage of net sales, it was up 40 basis points. The bulk of this increased investment, over 70%, was targeted at emerging markets, where we see the greatest opportunities for growth. Net sales grew 7% in the half, reflecting a continuation of the underlying trends we saw in the first quarter. It was driven by solid volume growth of 3% and 4 percentage points of positive price mix, split almost evenly between price and mix, reflecting the strength of our brands and our investments in them. This price mix, together with the efficiencies we've made in our supply footprint, drove gross margin expansion of 70 basis points. We've reduced overheads in developed markets, and we're beginning to reach scale in many of our emerging markets, resulting in operating margin expansion of 60 basis points. Free cash flow was GBP 500 million in the half, and we are maintaining our progressive dividend policy with a 7% increase in the interim dividend. Now I'll take you through some of the detail underlying this performance, and I'll start with the drivers of net sales growth. Growth of scotch in emerging markets, especially Johnnie Walker, Cîroc in North America and our beer brands in Africa, continued to be the key drivers of volume growth; while Smirnoffs returned to growth and the continued growth of Captain Morgan outside of North America provided additional volume upside. Mix…

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Thank you, Deirdre. At our conference in November, I spoke about making a strong business stronger, and these results demonstrate that we are doing just that. I'm going to spend some time now talking about how we built the momentum, which Deirdre has just described, and I will start with the investments we have made to drive top line growth. The momentum behind our improving top line growth is the result of our consistent investment in marketing, behind effective campaigns, our successful innovation program and the renewed focus that we have put behind regional sales teams. We have more of the world's leading brands than any other company. We are focused on extending those leadership positions, and in the half, we have gained share in over 60% of our markets. Our strategic brands have grown fastest. Johnnie Walker has generated 1/3 of our growth, but it didn't set the pace. Buchanan's grew even faster with 27% growth and Cîroc grew 50%. In vodka, Ketel One grew over 10%, and the strong performance of Smirnoff in Western Europe, where it grew 9%, was a big contributor to the overall improvement in the brand's performance. 11% growth of Guinness in the emerging markets helped offset the weakness of the beer category in Europe, and Guinness grew 5% globally. Let me start with marketing, which we increased by 10% in this half, following a 10% increase in the same period last year. Our incremental marketing spend has been focused on the biggest growth opportunities, and that is why over 70% of our incremental spend was in the emerging markets. But we have also increased our marketing spend in North America, targeted at the growth opportunities. As consumer trends are mixed in that market, in some areas, spend has been maintained. We're increasing our…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll now take our first question from Philip Morrisey from Berenberg.

Philip Mark Morrisey - Berenberg Bank, Research Division

Analyst · Berenberg

Paul, you note in the statement that you've taken selective price increases in North America, and I just wanted to confirm that, that included the U.S. as well as Canada. And if so, wanted to ask what the percentage of the portfolio in the U.S. has seen list price increases in the period, and indeed, how do you see the prospects for list price increases in the U.S. as this calendar year progresses? And then secondly, if I may, on margins in Asia, you've seen strong performance here in the first half, and I just wondered how sustainable you thought that 200-basis-point-plus pace of organic margin expansion might be, both in the second half of this fiscal year but also into fiscal '13?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Thanks, Philip. Ivan, I suggest you handle the price increase in North America, and Gilbert, if you can handle the margin question in Asia.

Gilbert Ghostine

Analyst · Berenberg

Of course.

Ivan M. Menezes

Analyst · Berenberg

Philip, if you look at our results, as you can see, we had very strong price mix coming through in North America, say, about 1/3 of it is price. And I'm feeling good about the strength of our brands. We are building brand equity, where investment -- reinvestment rates are up. And so we are able to, now, steadily take rice on our priority brands. 1/3 of it, of what you see in the first half price mix comes through price. We'll see it continue into the second half. And clearly, as we monitor the improving strength of the marketplace and our brand equity strength growing, we will use that to guide continued price increase going into next fiscal year as well.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Thank you. Gilbert?

Gilbert Ghostine

Analyst · Berenberg

Philip, on your question on margins on Asia, our strategy in Asia is paying off. As I promised you guys when we met last year in May, I said that we will deliver in Asia double-digit top and bottom line and ongoing operating margin improvement, and our strategy to focus behind scotch and super deluxe is paying off, which is yielding the operating margin improvement. We see still growth in super deluxe scotch, and we foresee operating margin to keep improving going forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Ian Shackleton from Nomura.

Ian Shackleton - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division

Analyst · Nomura

You’ve always had a very good performance in H1, with your revenues up 7%. I just wondered, you have flagged in more technical effects, [indiscernible] in France. We do have an earlier Chinese New Year. You've also mentioned Spain, I think. I mean, if we looked at the underlying number, I mean, how much are those technical effects really worth in this first half?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Deirdre, do you want to...

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

Ian, the technical effects that we referred to, we're really talking about the first half versus the second half performance. So there were some -- as we pointed out when we released our first quarter numbers, there were some specific technical effects that caused the first half versus the second half to look different. I mean, I wouldn't point to any specific technical effects across the first half performance that's overall impacting the trends.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

So really, it was Q1 to Q2.

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

Yes.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

So Q1, Q2, they level out. This is a pretty good underlying trend. Now we offered our guidance 6 months ago. These numbers give us great confidence in that guidance, but it's still too early to declare victory here, so we think it is prudent to stay with the guidance that we offered.

Andrew Morgan

Analyst · Nomura

France and Spain, Ian, the France and Spain effects are less than GBP 5 million, so not material at the Diageo level.

Ian Shackleton - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division

Analyst · Nomura

Okay. And just so your follow-up on Nigeria where obviously, you flagged – you’re now flagging a bit of a slowdown. I mean, how dramatic is that? And particularly as we go into 2012 with the political issues, I mean, could we see this going [indiscernible] growth, do you think, in 2012?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Let me ask Nick to answer that.

Nicholas B. Blazquez

Analyst · Nomura

We saw a bit of a softening in the market in the first half, and we were capacity-constrained. But the additional capacity that we planned came on stream at the end of November, and that's fully operational now. We had the uncertainty of the fuel subsidy removal, and that's been, by and large, resolved now, and the market is back seemingly operating normally. And so we were a bit uncertain at the beginning of January, but that's really picked up now very much. The bigger uncertainty, I suppose, is Boko Haram, the terrorist uncertainty, that was seen in the North. Hopefully, that will be constrained up there. And so I think there is a degree of increased uncertainty, but the fundamentals in Nigeria remain the same. It's long term, very attractive, we've got very strong brands, the additional capacity has come on stream, and I'm confident in that business there.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

The only thing I would say about our African business, Ian, is that you look over the last decade, yes, in any given year, there's an issue with this market or that market, but overall, our performance trajectory has been pretty steady, very dependable, and I think that speaks to the diversity of our business in sub-Sahara. So I am confident that we'll continue to see the growth come through in that region.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Simon Hales from Barclays Capital.

Simon Hales - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Barclays Capital

A couple, please, if I can. Firstly, Paul, I assume that your cautious outlook statement in regards to the economic environment is largely centered on perhaps what we may or may not see in Europe. I mean, just building on from your comments to Ian's question, could you just talk a little bit more about the real underlying consumer trends you’ve perhaps seen through Q1 into Q2, perhaps into the early part of the new calendar year in terms of your core markets, particularly maybe GB? And secondly, just regards to the tequila category, I wonder if you could just talk a little bit more about what's happening in the category there, what's happening particularly with Cuervo's performance and update us, if you can, on any further discussions you've had with the Beckmann family and the future of your partnership there?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Okay. Maybe I'll ask Ivan to talk about tequila, but let me give you a perspective on how we're kind of seeing the world. The first thing is, we're not seeing anything that you're not seeing, but it is quite uncertain, and how things play out remains to be seen. That said, start with North America. We continue to see a steady improvement in the economic environment. If you look at the emerging markets, collectively now, 40% of our sales, collectively they delivered 18% growth. We're not fundamentally seeing anything different there. We continue to see a rising number of emerging middle class who aspire to our brands, and our brand health in these markets is very, very strong. So we expect more of the same there. Europe is quite polarized. Yes, we see softness in Southern Europe, but our teams in those markets have handled it very, very well. And I feel in Europe, we've now got a degree of predictability that maybe we didn't enjoy in the past few years. Once you start to move north, Germany and France is very strong, double-digit growth. And we can find growth opportunities in Europe. But let's not fool ourselves. It's tough. But in aggregate, I think the fact that we've held our business flat is very creditable to the team in Europe. Ivan, tequila?

Ivan M. Menezes

Analyst · Barclays Capital

The tequila trends in the U.S., I'd say, overall, the category is healthy. What you're seeing within it is some shifts. You're seeing a shift from gold to silver, and in the Cuervo numbers, which we don't break out, Cuervo Silver is doing extremely well and growing nearly double-digit. Gold is under pressure. And the second big trend, I would say, is premiumization. So our higher marks in tequila are doing very well. Don Julio is running very strongly in double-digit growth, very strong in the on-premise. So overall, what you see in our reported numbers on Jose Cuervo also reflects a level of destocking in the distributors. The underlying trend on market share is more favorable. Regarding our discussions with the Beckmann family, they are ongoing. And as you've heard from Paul before, our intention is to secure a long-term participation in the tequila category globally and in the United States.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Just building on Ivan's point about Don Julio. If you look at our collection of high-end brands, so the Johnnie Walker Blues, the Tanqueray TENs, the Zacapa, the Kettle One, and what a stable of them we have, we are seeing, in aggregate, 25% growth, and it's pretty broad-based. It's across many geographies. We see that trend continuing, and clearly, that has a very positive impact on the leverage that we get through the P&L.

Simon Hales - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Barclays Capital

That's great. Can I just sort of go back, Paul, to your general comments on the outlook? I mean, you didn't mention Great Britain in terms of your comments in relations to Northern Europe. I mean, with the underlying trend, really likened that to consumer offtake, I mean, have you noticed any real change there in recent months?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

I see the GB market as quite polarized. I think it's polarized between the Southeast and the rest of the country. I think it's polarized between channel. But again, our high-end brands in this market are doing very, very well. It's encouraging that the rate of pub closures has definitely slowed. I think that's positive. And whilst our sales were off somewhat in the first half, the price mix that we saw was very positive. So overall, I would see GB kind of continuing pretty flat.

Operator

Operator

We now take our next question from Andrea Pistacchi from Citigroup.

Andrea Pistacchi - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst · Citigroup

I have a couple of questions on the U.S., please. One, going back to Philip Morrisey's question on pricing in the U.S., you said that you're taking selective price increases, and you said that pricing has contributed about 1/3 to your 5% price mix. Just a little more granularity there, what's -- I mean, I imagine the situation is still difficult, is it, on -- in vodka, in rum, in tequila, in those core categories. Are -- is there any pricing going on, on there? The second question is on your mix, which has probably slowed slightly in the quarter. And how I see it, there are 2 drivers of your mix. On the one hand, your super premium brands growing strongly, and on the other hand, a low -- or the sharp declines of your low-end brands. Now going forward, on more difficult comps for these premium brands, would you -- I mean, do you think the current, sort of, level of mix is sustainable or do you expect a bit of a slowdown?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Ivan, I'll hand over to you. I do think we've got to be very careful about going down this rabbit hole of first quarter, second quarter. We've tried to lay it out. Overall, the trends are pretty consistent, and there has been nothing that has massively switched between those 2 quarters, certainly in the U.S. or, more generally, elsewhere. But specifically to pricing, Ivan?

Ivan M. Menezes

Analyst · Citigroup

Sure. On pricing, I would say, we are at -- in the first half, we've taken pricing on a number of brands across our categories, brands like Johnnie Walker, Ketel One. Again, we take it by price -- by brand and by market, by state. But it's pretty broad-based. And as I said, I expect that trend to continue because the brands are healthy, they have the equity strength. And I'm actually very pleased with how I'm seeing pricing come back into these brands, and it enables us to sustain the reinvestment rates that you can see in advertising as well. In terms of going forward, and I'm pretty confident that overall price mix, we will be able to sustain. If you look at the underlying trends in the industry right now, we're back to that classic chart where the ultra-premium segment of the industry in IRI is growing 10%; super premium is growing 7%, 8%; premium is growing at 4%; and the value segment is flat or declining. I think our portfolio plays very well to those dynamics. What I'm very pleased about is the strength we're seeing in -- we talked about it at the investor conference in Smirnoff and Captain Morgan. Those equities are building, and you can see it in our results, there’s sequential improvement coming through. So overall, I would say we would probably see the mix, the balance move slightly more towards price, but I would expect mix to continue to be a positive factor as the underlying consumer trends in the U.S. are supporting that strongly. We're also seeing a robust on-trade, which helps the business. And as Paul mentioned, our reserve brands. I mean, in the first half, Johnnie Walker Blue was up 35%. It's fantastic to see these top-end brands come back so strongly. And the positioning of affordable luxury, which is what these brands represent, I think, is resonating pretty consistently now with the U.S. consumer, and I'm also very proud of the brand-building efforts we are putting behind these brands. And so my overall outlook on price and mix continues to be cautiously confident that it will sustain over the next half and into the following fiscal year.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Mitch Collett from Goldman Sachs.

Mitch Collett - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

I was wondering if you could split out the EM growth number you've given between spirits and beer, and I guess the contribution of each too, that would be useful as well. And then secondly, marketing has obviously gone up this half, and it looks like you're getting significant reward for that in several key brands. Could you maybe talk broadly about where you see the marketing-to-sales ratio going long term? I mean, you're back to your usual level of spend. Could we see it increase beyond here such that you could drive further growth in the key brands?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

I don't have that split at my fingertips. We can see if we can dig it out and get it to you. But what I would talk to directionally, and maybe Nick, you can speak to this, in Africa, we are seeing very, very strong growth in our beer business, but the route-to-market that we've created and the organizational strength that we have in our markets is really helping propel spirit sales. And I'll ask Nick to talk to that in a moment. In Latin America, basically, our business is spirits and, therefore, that is definitely driving the growth there. And I would say also in Asia, it is definitely tilted towards spirits growth. But Nick, why don't you speak to Africa, because there are some great examples in Africa of what we're doing.

Nicholas B. Blazquez

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

Yes. In Africa, spirits grew, overall, in terms of net sales, by 18% against beer at about 12%, which is a fantastic performance. And within spirits, Johnnie Walker was an absolute star, growing at 32%. The consumers in Africa are the same as consumers around the world in terms of aspiring to our brands. So we make them available through driving distribution, through getting the right format, people will very much buy into them and really love them. Now what's driving that? It is our route-to-market, and we've integrated our beer and our spirits distribution in many of our markets. We did that in South Africa 2 or 3 years ago. That's yielding great benefit. We continue to gain market share there in spirits. And over the last 18 months, we've done that both in East Africa and in West Africa. And since we've integrated beer and spirits together, we’ve really seen an acceleration of spirits, both -- across the continent. As I say, Johnnie Walker is spearheading that growth, and I expect that to continue.

Mitch Collett - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

And then, it's notable that your -- couple of the spirits brands within Africa have negative price mix. Is that a function of country mix, or is that a deliberate drive to make those brands more affordable?

Nicholas B. Blazquez

Analyst · Goldman Sachs

It's a large part in terms of country mix. As we're seeing the countries' balance change, a lot of that is driven by country mix.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

I think, actually, when you look at within country, the pricing on spirits is pretty robust. Regarding your question on A&P spend, we have to recognize that what you see is simply the aggregate result of our strategies market-by-market. However, I have to say that I like the profile of our P&L. Our brands are well invested in, but equally, if we see opportunities for growth, we will keep this momentum going. We see it as very healthy and in the long-term interest of the firm. So it's a good profile of investment. The other thing that we should never overlook, in emerging markets, we have progressively coming onstream many, many millions more of the emerging middle-class consumers. And therefore, our footprint, as well as being very well-developed, we're set to see very good demographic trends come our way in these markets. So to your question on advertising, why wouldn't we continue with this profile? But equally, I do also make the point that our brands are very well invested in.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Antoine Belge from HSBC.

Antoine Belge - HSBC, Research Division

Analyst · HSBC

Antoine Belge, HSBC. Three questions. First of all, sorry to come back on Western Europe, and I understand that H1 trends are more, obviously [ph], the reflection of the underlying trend on Q2 versus Q1. But I remember that in Q1, you had mentioned that in the South of Europe, you were starting to experience a more favorable basis of comparison. And I'm wondering what -- it's probably has been the case as in Q2, so shouldn't we now have a sort of more favorable base for those part of Europe which are doing less well? And isn't this indicating that, actually, Q2 has been a bit weaker than in Q1 underlying – on an underlying basis? The second question is more on, maybe, some qualitative comment that you could make on Chinese New Year, on what you're getting from your network in terms of sell out? And finally, coming back to the marketing questions, so just want to make sure I understood correctly. So the marketing reinvestment ahead of sale would be a function on what you're achieving in terms of gross margins? I mean, you -- should we assume that if the gross margin continued to move nicely, then there should be lets you do [ph] some reinvestment in marketing?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Yes. I mean, basically -- let me take the marketing question first. If we see good ideas, we have the capacity to invest behind them. Equally, if our sales growth tracks with our marketing growth, that's also fine, given my point about being well invested in our brands. But if we have headroom and we see good ideas, we will back them. Andy, do you want to add more color to that?

Andrew Morgan

Analyst · HSBC

Well, I think that’s -- I mean, there isn't a magic number for the ratio. We need to do both: lean into growth ideas, as Paul said, and we've been doing that for a number of years; and we need to use our scale to drive efficiencies from our preexisting investments. And we'll continue to do that around the world, as you can see in this set of numbers.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Regarding Western Europe, I mean, there is an arithmetical consequence here. As we've gone through a certain level of contraction, the performance is less relevant to the total company. Having said that, we're still seeing softness in those markets. There is no sign that they are leveling out anytime soon, but clearly, they're a smaller component of the total, and the rate of decline is also decreasing. Gilbert, on Chinese New Year?

Gilbert Ghostine

Analyst · HSBC

Yes. Antoine, on Chinese New Year, anecdotally, consumer demand on our brands in China is still going very strong, especially on the super deluxe side of the business. Johnnie Walker Blue Label in the first half had a stunning performance in China, growing higher than 50%, which has been consistent; over the last 6 quarters, our super deluxe scotch business in China has grown over 40%. So this trend on super deluxe is still going strong, and we are still gaining market share, which is great.

Antoine Belge - HSBC, Research Division

Analyst · HSBC

Maybe a follow-up on scotch in China. Would you consider that in terms of share of throats, so to speak, now scotch is no longer losing market share to cognac in the region?

Gilbert Ghostine

Analyst · HSBC

The way, Antoine, we look at it, scotch is growing and cognac is growing. Now if you look at scotch, total scotch is growing at 3%, but most importantly, super deluxe scotch is growing at 12%, and this is where we see the biggest opportunity for scotch in the future, and that's where we are channeling the bulk of our energy to fuel and keep driving this trend. And this is where we are winning big time.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Trevor Stirling from Sanford Bernstein. Trevor Stirling - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co., LLC., Research Division: One question. Sorry to give you another Q1, Q2 question, Paul, but it's relating to China and Asia Pacific, rather more specifically, that there was apparent slowdown in Asia Pacific, and I'm wondering maybe, Gilbert, could you just give us a little bit of color around that?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Gilbert, over to you.

Gilbert Ghostine

Analyst · Sanford Bernstein

Yes. Trevor, look, there is no slowdown in Asia Pacific. Consumer demand on our brands is still very strong. I'm very excited about the prospects of our business in emerging Asia. We see our business growing strongly in India, in China and in Southeast Asia. And there is no reason why I see these trends not to continue in the second half. And in the developed markets in Asia, Australia and Korea, yes, the first half was challenging, but the second half will be better.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Melissa Earlam from UBS.

Melissa Earlam - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst · UBS

I've got 3 questions, please. First of all, you mentioned organic sales growth across your emerging markets of 18% in the half. I was wondering if you could give us an idea of what the organic EBIT growth was for the EM region? Then secondly, you saw a tick-up in scotch inventory in the half. I was wondering if you could quantify that and give us an idea whether this is part of a broader plan to step up your overall scotch inventory. And given the quite big swing in net working capital outflow in the first half, I was wondering if you could give us a broad range for what the change in working capital might be for the full year fiscal '12.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

I'll ask Deirdre to handle the working capital. On the 18% organic sales growth in emerging markets, the actually profit growth was higher. I think it was about 4 points higher directionally. So we're getting a very good mix effect coming through on that sales growth. Your second question, Melissa, was what?

Andrew Morgan

Analyst · UBS

Scotch inventory.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Scotch inventory. Yes, you're going to continue to see us build our inventories in scotch. I've mentioned several times about the favorable demographics in the emerging markets and the lucrative prospects for scotch. We're going to have to make sure that we lay down liquid to serve those consumers, and that's what we have been doing and will continue to do. Deirdre, working capital?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

Melissa, I think the overall working capital in the first half, we would expect to see about the same. If you look at the underlying growth in the business, we're seeing impacts on the growth in the receivables, and importantly, we continue to lay down maturing stock, given the very strong growth in our scotch business. So on a net-net basis, I would think it would be in the order of about the same.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

It's very interesting, coming back to this emerging market issue, we've said for some time, that once we start to get the scale, we continue to ride the demographics, that this is going to be a critical engine of growth. You're starting to see that come through.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jamie Isenwater from Deutsche Bank.

Jamie Isenwater - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

A couple of questions from me. Firstly, for Deirdre, in terms of restructuring charges that you've updated us on, is the lower cost for this year a shift in timing or are there actually some savings coming through? If so, what's driven that? And then secondly, just on Cîroc and Mr. Diddy, there were some press reports that he was going to launch a tequila, and I presume that wasn't in conjunction with Diageo. So I just wondered whether there was any contractual obligations around him starting competitive products or whether it's even true.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Okay, then Deirdre and then Ivan, Cîroc.

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

On the restructuring costs, I mean, as you know when we announced those, there were some estimates included with respect to the movement. I do not expect that to just be a shift. It is, in fact, a reduction, and it just has to do with the redeployment of some people, some lower overall costs. But the short answer is, it is lower in absolute. We're not expecting that to be a timing shift.

Ivan M. Menezes

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

On Cîroc, as you know, there's lots of speculation and stuff written about our partner, so I wouldn't believe everything you read. But what you can be assured is as we have structured our arrangement with Mr. Combs, we've obviously thought about the long term of how we best protect Diageo's interests, and he has -- so without disclosing anything about our contract, I can assure you we feel comfortable about our future with Mr. Combs.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Alex Molloy from Crédit Suisse. Alex Molloy - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: On the U.K., just coming back on something you said, Paul. Down in the second quarter, but I think you said to an earlier question, that you'd expect it to continue about flat. Am I reading that wrongly, or do you expect a bit of an improvement there in the second half?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

We did have a weaker second quarter. We wouldn't expect the second half to be -- to follow that trend. And overall, we think, in the round, it will be flat. Alex Molloy - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: What will change from the Q2 to the second half?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Andrew, do want to talk specifically about the Q2 events?

Andrew Morgan

Analyst · Nomura

Yes. I mean, I think, as we noted in the release, we've had a real focus on improving the quality of the shape of the P&L in GB, and we've delivered that. So on the half, you’re minus 2 at the sales line, but you got 4 points of operating gearing there. A lot of that has come through us having less debt and frequency of promotion on some of our bigger brands, like Smirnoff, in particular. And we'll continue to have that focus. It's working for us. So yes, minus 2% to flat, that's the kind of range. We're certainly not seeing any improvement in category or industry volumes in GB anytime soon.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Ann Gurkin from Davenport. Ann H. Gurkin - Davenport & Company, LLC, Research Division: I have several questions, if that's okay. One, I was wondering if I can get a further update on the progress with integration with distributors in the U.S. Is that meeting expectations? Can you give us for some more detail?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Anecdotally, I met with one of our key distributors only last week. They are thrilled with the improved structure that's in place. But Ivan, maybe you can go into more detail on that.

Ivan M. Menezes

Analyst · Davenport

Sure, Ann. No, things are going well. We've made very substantial changes in terms of taking our route-to-market to the next level; more resources, more focused on priorities like the on-premise and multicultural. We've realigned how we go to market, connecting marketing, trade marketing, to the sales execution. Quite a substantial change. And I would say we all feel very good about the changes. You can see it in our performance. And I think our partnership with our distributors has never been stronger. And we are really focused on stepping up the executional excellence every day. So I think the Diageo route-to-market in the U.S. is a big competitive advantage, and we intend to keep it that way. Ann H. Gurkin - Davenport & Company, LLC, Research Division: Terrific. Second, may I get an update on global inventory levels at distributors? Is there any area of risk or any area of concern?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

My sense is not. We obviously, as we go through our half year close, look at that pretty carefully. I don't see any issue emerging there. Deirdre?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

No, I don't see any issues on the distributor inventories. Ann H. Gurkin - Davenport & Company, LLC, Research Division: Super. And then, Deirdre, can you help me with how you're thinking about currency impact for the year now?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

We had about a GBP 30 million impact in the first half. We expect for the full year to effectively it to net out, so there will be no impact at the operating profit line or it’ll be minimal. Ann H. Gurkin - Davenport & Company, LLC, Research Division: Super. And then finally, Paul, you -- one of your key strategies has been realigning resources globally. Where are you versus that strategy?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

We're absolutely on track. If you look in our developed markets and at the corporate level, we have taken resource out. But equally, we continue to invest in the emerging markets, and I think it's up about 15%. And we will continue to do that to fuel the opportunities that I constantly reference. So we're absolutely on track.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Simon Marshall-Lockyer from Jefferies. Simon John Marshall-Lockyer - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Could you maybe give us a few further indications or insights into whether there's any shift or you're seeing any movement between the off-trade and on-trade in the U.S? Give us a bit more color on that and how you see things panning out. And the second question is on Mey Içki. Could you give us some indication of how the half went in respect to the core business, the Raki business? Obviously, you're indicating sort of strong demand for the premium brands, but how did the Raki business go and underlying performance there at Mey Içki?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Ivan, why don't you talk to the on-premise trends, which are positive, and Andrew, on Mey Içki?

Ivan M. Menezes

Analyst · Jefferies

Right now, the on-premise, we figure, in total, is growing about 2%. And if you look at total in volume on spirits, the total spirits industry is growing in the 2% to 3% range. The thing about the U.S. and if you go back to the 2008 crisis, we did see a drop in the on-premise then. It is coming back nicely. Overall, you need to remember the on-premise is about 22%, 23% of the total business. So I actually see the channel mix stay relatively resilient. You get a little bit of blips as you go through economic cycles, but not the kind of dramatic shifts you've seen in some markets in Europe. And you also need to remember, in the U.S., by virtue of the 3-tier system, our profitability in the on versus off is relatively the same. It's a high-margin business in both channels. And so these impacts are on the margin. They shift a bit, but no dramatic change. And I'm very pleased, actually, with the strength of the on-premise coming back, because it's a good leading indicator as well for the health of the consumer and, certainly, the health of the beverage alcohol categories.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Andrew?

Andrew Morgan

Analyst · Jefferies

Yes. Mey Içki, very much in line with our business case, and that's despite an excise tax increase that we've -- that's been applied to the category in Turkey since the acquisition. Quite significant market share gain over the last 6 months would be the other highlight, but we're very much on track is what I would say.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Olivier Delahousse from Natixis.

Olivier Delahousse - Natixis S.A., Research Division

Analyst · Natixis

Olivier Delahousse from Natixis in Paris. A couple of questions. First one is related to the noncash item regarding taxes. I was wondering if -- I'm guessing this is related to brands mostly, but also in -- to the U.S. jurisdiction in terms of tax. I was wondering if, Deirdre, maybe you could comment a little more on that. And secondly, I was wondering if there were -- regarding duty, anything -- any concern regarding increases in other geographies, whether to the one in France, a little update on your perspective in that respect.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

I think on the duty point -- I will hand over to Deirdre regarding the noncash tax item. On duties, we have to be alert to duties, generally speaking, around the world. That said, there are certain markets in the emerging market category where we're actually seeing duties come down, because they want to eliminate illicit alcohol or whatever. So it isn't always right to look at it through the lens of the developed world. Nevertheless, we keep our eye on this. There is nothing horrible out there that we see lurking. But we're going to have to be on our game constantly. Cash tax?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

Yes. It -- the write-off of the deferred tax assets was related to intangible brand assets. You may recall that at the full year, we said that we expected our tax rate, our effective tax rate, to come in line with the cash tax rate. I mean, that's effectively what's happened. As you know, the brand IP is owned in multiple jurisdictions, and we were able to reach favorable agreements with the tax jurisdictions, so that the basis of taxation now is no longer dependent on the amortization of those brands, and that's what caused the write-off of the deferred tax asset, but yet an ongoing underlying reduction in our effective rate.

Olivier Delahousse - Natixis S.A., Research Division

Analyst · Natixis

One follow-up on that, if I may. I guess you won’t want to comment on competitors or peers, but is this -- can you mention whether these discussions that you have had with the tax authorities have been on a standalone basis or whether they are likely to have been made with other groups in the industry?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

They were discussions that we had with the tax authorities. They were not industry-related.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our next question from Nico Lambrechts from Bank of America.

Nico Lambrechts - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst · Bank of America

Just 2 questions. The first is, could you repeat maybe the actual cost savings number, which you did in your prepared script? And then the second question, apologies if I'm going a little bit deeper down the rabbit hole that you mentioned, Paul. But the first quarter number, 9%, I think the underlying number was about 6% to 7%; the second quarter, 5% growth if we strip out the one-off benefits pre-buying ahead of excise, is probably around 4%. Could you maybe indicate if there’s, in the next quarter, potential technical impacts, i.e., reversals of the pre-buying in France and LatAm, and if you think that the reported number will be impacted negatively by these technical effects for the fourth -- for the third quarter?

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Over to Deirdre.

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

I -- on the benefits on restructuring, we had said, for the full year was around GBP 40 million. I don't have the precise number in front of me for the first half. It was a little bit less than half because they'll tend to increase through the full year. But we expect we are on track for that. On the second question, can you repeat the second question?

Nico Lambrechts - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst · Bank of America

Just asking, are there any of these technical impacts that benefited the first quarter and second quarter? And specifically, the pre-buying in Latin America and France, that will reverse in the third quarter, i.e., the quarter into March?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

Yes. As Andrew suggested earlier, the impacts in France, and there were some also in Spain, they're not material, so we don't expect it to have a material impact on the underlying trends. And as I said earlier, I think the shifts from the first quarter to the second quarter, we're not expecting any of that to be impacting the full year trends and the -- or the underlying trends in the business for the full year.

Nico Lambrechts - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst · Bank of America

And is it fair to say that the underlying trends were around 6% to 7% in the first quarter, slightly below 5% in the second quarter, and that your third quarter will face a much tougher comp than the previous 2 quarters? And should that have any impact on the quarterly numbers?

Deirdre A. Mahlan

Management

Well, I mean, I think I would say, as you know, we're not giving quarter-by-quarter guidance in terms of the underlying results. I would say that the trends that we've seen in the underlying performance of the business, we believe, are sustainable. Again, given the comments that Paul and the presidents have already made about the clear macroeconomic impacts that would impact consumer confidence, we are confident in the underlying performance of the brands, and the investments that we've made in the brands are delivering the returns that we've expected. It's coming through in gross margin and in operating margin and, right now, we're not seeing anything that would impact that.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now take our last question for today from Pablo Zuanic from Liberum Capital.

Pablo E. Zuanic - Liberum Capital Limited, Research Division

Analyst · Liberum Capital

Number one, the U.S. margins are so much higher than the rest of the company, but the U.S. -- the North American business is mostly whites. It's more white spirits weighted than the rest of the world, and I always thought that brand spirits would be more profitable. It's a larger country, more distribution costs, third-party distribution is mandatory. So I'm just thinking, why are the margins so much higher, or is it that just the other divisions are quite low and they're sort of upside? That's one question. The second question, in terms of at the moment, if I look at your numbers in emerging Asia in terms of growth versus Latin America, they're both very similar, high -- it's almost 20% on average. When you look out more longer term, which of those 2 is more sustainable? I mean, from outside, one would think Asia, emerging Asia, has more long-term growth potential, but maybe I'm missing something there. And the third one and last, when you see all the growth around craft beer in the U.S., premium beer, now that new Bud Light Platinum is supposedly trying to compete with spirits, and I hear, apparently, ABI, trying to launch a malt beverage, a rum malt beverage in line with Bacardi, do you see room to do something in that area or even to reignite your RTD strategy there? That's all.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Maybe Ivan, you can pick up that last point. Regarding the U.S., what I would say, and this is not dissimilar from many consumer products companies. The sheer scale of that market just gives the level of efficiency that does allow higher margins. If you think of your media reach, the fact that you can scale organization, a variety of things just points to it being, generally, a more profitable market. Brand spirits, particularly at the high-end, are seeing some resurgence and bring with them very attractive margins. So we could see this being enhanced. I wouldn't want to call the race between, say, Asia and Latin America. Both of those markets have got huge potential. And if you look at what has been achieved in our Lat division, whilst Asia does tend to get a lot of the media attention, Latin America has been strong, very attractive growth for a number of years. Ivan, on the craft side?

Ivan M. Menezes

Analyst · Liberum Capital

If you look at the trends that are happening in ready-to-drink beer, the craft space, it's quite an exciting space. I mean, innovation does make a difference. And from a Diageo standpoint in North America, this business is still important to us. There's a consumer demand that is actually quite robust, and as we go into the second half, we actually -- right now, we have some new products in the marketplace, the Smirnoff premium mixed drinks line with the products like the Screwdriver, just gone into the market doing pretty well. And I have to say I'm also very excited about the Parrot Bay frozen cocktail line of pouches that we've introduced in the marketplace; early days, but looks very, very encouraging. This is essentially getting a high-quality frozen cocktail in a pouch for about $2. And as you merchandise these products, they're doing extremely well. So I think the space is innovation-intensive. You're going to have winners and losers, and we've seen that in our track record here. But I'm optimistic about holding our position here. And as I said, going into the second half, you will see a fair degree of pretty exciting innovation from Diageo in this space in North America.

Paul S. Walsh

Management

Let me try and bring this to a close, and first of all, thank you for your questions. As I said in the presentation, this has been a good, well-balanced half year performance. And I do hope that in the last 90 minutes or so have been helpful to you to understand how that growth has been driven. I look forward to meeting a number of you over the next few weeks, but for now, thank you for your time and goodbye.