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Donegal Group Inc. (DGICA)

Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 19, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Alex, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Donegal Group Inc.’s Q4 2015 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Jeff Miller, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin your conference.

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Thank you, Alex. Good morning everyone welcome to the Donegal Group conference call for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2015. I am Jeff Miller, Chief Financial Officer, and I will begin today's call by discussing highlights of our quarterly and full year financial results. Kevin Burke, President and Chief Executive Officer will provide additional comments on the quarter and discuss our current business trends. Don Nikolaus, Chairman, will follow-up with his comments on the quarter before we open the line for questions. Please be aware that certain statements made in our news release and in this conference call are forward-looking in nature, and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. We refer you to our news release for more information about forward-looking statements. We refer you to our 2014 Form 10-K which is available on our website under the SEC filings link for further information on risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. We plan to file our 2015 Form 10-K within the next few weeks. Reconciliation of non-GAAP information as required by SEC Regulation G was provided in our news release which we have also made available in the Investor section of our website. For the full year of 2015, our net income was $26.8 million compared to $14.5 million for the full year of 2014. Our 2015 statutory combined ratio was 97.4% compared to 100.5% for 2014. The improvement between years was largely attributable to a lower level of weather related losses in 2015 and lower prior accident year loss reserve development compared to 2014. Overall we were pleased with the significant increase in our profitability. Turning to our fourth quarter results we had $7.8 million in net income and $7 million in operating income,…

Kevin G. Burke

Analyst

Thank you, Jeff. Good morning, everyone. As Jeff indicated, we’re pleased with the continued growth and profitable results we achieved for the fourth quarter, as well as for the full year of 2015, our focus on our long-term business goals including our commitment to sound underwriting discipline, our focus on providing best in class technology and our strong relationship with our independent agents have contributed to these positive results. Maintaining our competitive position within the markets we serve is a priority for us, we routinely review rate indications and market data to maintain our focus on rate adequacy and quality underwriting, which are critical in achieving our targeted profitability levels in both commercial lines and personal lines. I will review the commercial and personal lines underwriting segments of our business as well as touch upon our agency distribution system and provide a brief update on our technology initiative. The commercial lines segment of our business continued to perform very well in the fourth quarter. We’re pleased with the continued premium growth and profitability of our commercial lines business and our retention levels remain consistently in the mid-80% range. As Jeff noted, in the personal lines segment of our business we achieved excellent homeowner results with this positive result was offset by our personal auto results. We are committed to improving the profitability level of our personal lines segment. We have implemented and will continue to file rate increases where appropriate and we will continue to expand our utilization of predictive modeling tools to refine our pricing and underwriting criteria. To give you a sense of recent rate filing activity in personal lines, we have filed rate increases in the homeowners in 2% to 4% range, depending upon the state and subsidiary. Rate increases in personal automobile ranged in the low-single-digits,…

Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our earnings conference call. As you’ve heard from both Jeff and Kevin our underwriting results and increased investment income for the quarter and for 2015 slowly benefited from the various strategies we have employed over the last number of years. We believe that Donegal Group will continue to benefit from these strategies going forward. Some of these fundamental strategies include a focused on underwriting profitability. And what that means is proper underwriting, inspecting risk, knowing the business that you are writing, rate adequacy. Kevin talked about the various rate increases and we have an ongoing review of all products in all departments in all region in all states. Growth of our distribution system needless to say if you have a desire to grow you need to be adding to the distribution system while at the same time as a company you need to make sure that the agencies that you have licensed are growing in premiums so that you have a higher percentage of their premium than you did in the prior year. Best-in-class technology, we are investing quite a few millions of dollars annually to make sure that we can use those words because it’s very important in this day and age that within independent agencies that you have technologies that’s comparable or superior to even the national carriers. Needless to say we have been investing a lot of time and money in predictive modeling and the increased use of data. Also we have a very strong focus on geographic location where we are going to do business and profitable product focus. One of the products that we are most profitable with so that we emphasize those. Now some of the statistics you’ve already heard, but I’m going to run down through them and I think what it does is underscores that it’s been a successful year and our trends are quite good. Fourth quarter net income increased by more than 70%, statutory combined ratio of 98.9%. 2015 net income increased by 84%, statutory combined ratio of 97.4%. Net premiums written increased by 9.1% for the quarter and 8.6% for 2016. Our book value is increased to $15.66, net income fourth quarter $7.764 million for the entire year $26.770 million. Commercial lines loss ratio very excellent 92% for the fourth quarter and 92.8% for 2015. Investment income which we’re very pleased about increased by 13.1% for the fourth quarter and 14.2% for the entire year 2015. We believe that all of these are the direct results of the various strategies that I spoke about earlier. And as you know the Donegal Insurance Group is and plans to be a successful independent regional property casualty insurance company and we look to continue to that process. Thank you I’ll turn it back to Jeff.

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Thank you, Don. Alex at this time, we’re ready to open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Christopher Campbell of Keefe, Bruyette & Woods. Your line is open.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Hi, good morning.

Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

Good morning, Chris.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Hi congratulations on today’s results.

Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

Thank you.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

My first question is on rates. Kevin had mentioned on personal auto taking rates in the low to mid-single digits. How does this compare on personal auto with your loss trends? And just a secondary question with your 3% to 5% renewal increases in commercial, how does this compare specifically commercial auto, how does that compared to loss trends in that line of business?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

We are definitely keeping up with the loss cost in both personal auto and commercial auto the rate increases that Kevin mentioned is low-to-single digit on personal auto. Commercial auto the rate increases are anywhere in the 5% to 8% range. And our accident year loss ratios for those lines are improving or at least stable even taking into account the fourth quarter results that we talked about. So that would indicate to us that the rate increases that we’re taking or at least keeping pace with it’s not outpacing the loss cost.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay. Second question I had was just in terms of like the commercial auto net written premium growth. How should we view that given its combined ratio?

Kevin G. Burke

Analyst

As I mentioned we are account writers so we would be writing commercial accounts and commercial auto we would expect to grow proportionately with the other commercial lines. But as I mentioned, we do look at the rates on a product-by-product basis and to the extent that commercial auto is performing at a higher combined ratio than the other commercial lines we will address that. But overall, we do review those results in the aggregate and we’re quite pleased with the commercial lines combined ratios that we’re generating on an account level in the aggregate.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay. So just follow-up question on that, should we think of on this account writing focus should we think of commercial auto as a loss leader for Donegal?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Don’t think we would necessarily characterize it as that we certainly strive to write each of the lines profitably. But we do recognize that from time-to-time one of the lines may not be performing as well as others. In some quarters we’ve had workers comp results that were not as good as some of the other lines, but when we look at things over the long-term we expect each of those lines to contribute favorably to our underwriting result.

Kevin G. Burke

Analyst

Christopher as Jeff was alluding to kind of the account writer base is in a way that we view it in its entirety you shouldn’t misinterpret that that we’re not looking at each of these classes and accounts with fine detail to ensure that we have adequate pricing and rate to ensure that it’s profitable. So for when we look at it and we stand back of it from an account standpoint, what Jeff said is accurate, but we are very much looking at commercial auto we would not view it as a loss leader it would be something that we are making sure that it is as profitable as can be and where we take actions to make sure that that occurs.

Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

This is Don Nikolaus. Account writing in our judgment is a fundamental philosophy of underwriting commercial risk because as you can see from the very favorable loss ratio for commercial lines that it benefits you by writing the entire account provided the underwriting justifies it. So that is the philosophy we follow and under no circumstances do we consider commercial auto being some kind of loss leader or something.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay, perfect that’s very helpful. Another question I had was on the reserve strengthening it improved significantly year-over-year just how much of the $2.4 million was commercial and personal auto?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

For personal auto in the fourth quarter was about $1.2 million of favorable loss development, commercial auto is about $1.4 million. So we had some offsetting favorable development in some of the other line and the $1.2 million is quite modest compared to the overall premium for personal auto so might have been 2 points on the loss ratio for the fourth quarter. Commercial auto would be more significant because we don’t have as much in terms of premiums in that line. So the development would have represented about 7 points on the loss ratio for that particular line although it was only $1.4 million.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay. And where were you seeing that favorable development that offset?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Favorable development offset was primarily in work discount.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

And do you have an estimate on that?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Around $1.4 million so we would have few of the other lines that were up or down to make up the difference.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay, that’s very helpful. Thank you. And just kind of one final question regarding the recent tender kind of it’s like a two part question one technical and then like another higher level and more strategic. What percentage of income is likely to be allocated to the Class A shareholders? We are currently modeling in 82 and we just wanted to get an updated number for our model.

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

I don’t know that I have that number on my fingertips we have about -- I want to say it would be somewhere around 80% of the earnings would be allocated to the Class A shares. It’s somewhat of a complicated formula it takes into effect the dividend differential, but I can certainly follow-up with you offline to get you the exact number what that will be going forward.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay, that would be great. And just the higher level one given the shares you bought back how are you thinking about M&A and what would be an attractive opportunity right now for Donegal? And does the increased credit line, does that inhibit you in anyway?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

As far as M&A is concerned Christopher I mean that is still very much part of our business plan. And so in no way does it alter that at all. So we are obviously looking for the right opportunity and so it really doesn’t change anything.

Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

From a M&A standpoint as you look at our history we are looking for companies that ride business that we ride, we don’t want to ride taxi cab free cash in New York or workers’ comp in Texas. So we’re looking for companies that have the similar product mix to us, geographically that’s important. We would want to acquire companies in the regions that we are currently in which is the Northeast. The south as we define it we have no interest in those two exposures and also we’re interested in the Midwest, but not states like Oklahoma or Missouri where there is a lot of bad weather activity and is I would like to underscore what Kevin said that we continue to be active in that market and we certainly are not inhibited by the fact that we purchased the stock. We have always said that our target is anywhere company writing anywhere from $15 million to $100 million in premium and that remains our target and we are on an ongoing basis having conversations with investment bankers and others because acquisitions are not something that you do overnight. It’s been our experience that you build relationships you get to know the entity. So I’d say it’s an ongoing process.

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Chris I would just add that from a financial perspective we have a lot of different ways that we can do acquisitions and number of we can do mutual to mutual affiliations with Donegal mutual that can eventually result in an acquisition by DGI or we can do quota share arrangements. There is a lot of different ways we can do acquisitions or affiliations without necessarily expanding a great deal of cash. Such as the way we did a few of the acquisitions, the most recent being Michigan Insurance Company. So we are continuing to look at opportunities look for opportunities to add additional companies to our family company.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

Okay. Those are all the questions I have. Thank you gentlemen for all the insight and best of luck in 2016.

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Thank you, Chris.

Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Philo Smith [ph]. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, could you talk a little bit about growth strategy in commercial lines going forward and I know you guys have come a long way. But in terms of going forward already targeted geographies that maybe preference for certain lines within the lines you already write and maybe your appetite for new lines and new classes of business sort of beyond the main street small to mid-size commercial business that you currently focused on?

Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

Well let’s approach it from a slightly different approach. One of the things that we have doing over the last two to three years is appointing more commercial focused agents are keeping in mind that the number of the acquisitions that we did were all personal lines companies. So that what we have been doing over the last three, four years is bringing commercial lines to those states and to those agents and in addition to that we have an emphasis on appointing agencies that have a commercial focus and the rational for that is that it exposes us to a greater percentage of commercial new business applications. We are not opposed to writing personnel line. However we do want to balance somewhat more our book of business, which is currently weighted about 58% through personal lines and about 42% to commercial. So we would like to balance it out more, that’s why we are looking to a point more commercial focused agencies. It does not mean that we are going out and writing new classes that have significant risk associated with or very large accounts. We do expand the number of classes that we write, but we are very careful about that and yes we do write larger accounts. We utilize reinsurance when we are doing some of that, but we are very careful not to be writing larger accounts just to feel good about things that we’ve written some giant account. It has to be a class that we feel comfortable with.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great, thank you. And could you talk about maybe any changes to the reinsurance program that renewal?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

We had a very successful reinsurance renewal and one-on-one most of our programs do renew at January 1st. We did not make any significant changes to the reinsurance program. The structure of it remains very consistent with 2015 and the rates will be comparable, some coverages costing a little more some costing a little less, but we don’t expect a major change in the reinsurance cost or the coverage that we’re buying. So it’s very consistent with what we would have had in place last year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got you, okay. So in 2015 it looks like the expense ratio ticked up just a bit because of consuming the various growth and technology initiatives that you guys had. Do you think this sort of level is going to continue on a go forward basis sort of in the near-term?

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

I don’t expect any significant change to the expense ratio; we continue to invest in technology. And that’s done primary at the Donegal mutual level and those costs are then shared with the Donegal Group insurance subsidiaries. We have not made any change the way we’re allocating those expenses that are shared proportionately on the basis of net written premiums. So as the net premiums written increase those charges would naturally migrate upward, but it all has to do with the level of expenditure and investment. We don’t expect to necessarily see significant increase, but I wouldn’t say that it going to decline as well. And the other impact to the expense ratio is our ongoing profitability and the incentive payments that we share with our agents and employees. So as our loss ratio is lower our expense ratio will be slightly higher and that’s by design those programs are designed to incentivize both our agents and our employees to do everything they can to write business profitably and increase our underwriting profit.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great, that’s it from me. Thank you for the answers.

Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

A - Jeffrey D. Miller

Analyst

While we’re waiting to see if there are any other questions just wanted to mention that it might be helpful to comment on the significant snow storm that we had in January if you’re watching the weather channel or the news that you saw the areas of the country where we do a lot of business was impacted by very significant snow storm. And we’re pleased to report that our January underwriting results were favorable, limited impact from claims related to that snowstorm. And so I think part of the contributing factor to that was there were steady winds with the storm that kind of kept the snow from accumulating on roofs and then it’s -- we had a nice gentle fall in the next few days following the storm that most of the snow disappeared in it fairly rapidly. So the claims activity has been relatively light and considering the magnitude of the storm and we don’t expect a significant financial impact to the first quarter results. Seeing no other questions in the queue we’ll wrap things up and we thank everyone for your participation today. And look forward to speaking to you with the first quarter results in April.

A - Kevin G. Burke

Analyst

Thank you.

A - Donald H. Nikolaus

Analyst

Thank you everybody.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.