Welcome to the HF Sinclair Corporation and Holly Energy Partners First Quarter 2022 Conference Call and Webcast. Hosting the call today is Mike Jennings, Chief Executive Officer of HF Sinclair and Holly Energy Partners. He’s joined by Rich Voliva, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of HF Sinclair and President of Holly Energy Partners; Tim Go, President and Chief Operating Officer of HF Sinclair; and Tom Creery, President, HF Sinclair Renewables. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Craig Biery, Vice President, Investor Relations. Craig, you may begin.

Thank you, Chantel. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to HF Sinclair Corporation and Holly Energy Partners first quarter 2022 earnings call. This morning we issued press release is announcing results for the quarter ending March 31, 2022. If you would like a copy of the press releases, you may find them on our website at hfsinclair.com and hollyenergy.com. Before we proceed with remarks, please note the Safe Harbor disclosure statement in today’s press releases. In summary, it’s the statements made regarding management expectations, judgments or predictions are forward-looking statements. These statements are intended to be covered under the Safe Harbor provisions of federal security laws. There are many factors that could cause results to differ from expectations including those noted in our SEC filings. The call also may include discussion of non-GAAP measures. Please see the earnings press releases for reconciliations to GAAP financial measures. And please note any time sensitive information provided on today’s call may no longer be accurate at the time of any webcast replay or rereading of the transcript. And with that, I’ll turn the call over to Mike.

Great. Thank you, Greg. Good morning, everyone. The first quarter of 2022 was transformational as we closed on the acquisition of the Sinclair companies marking the new HF Sinclair and we made our first sales of renewable diesel from Cheyenne. Our combined, integrated platform delivered strong financial results led by the performance of our refining and lubricants segments. We reported first quarter net income attributable to HF Sinclair shareholders of $160 million or $0.90 per diluted share. These results reflect special items that collectively decrease net income by $16 million. Excluding the items, adjusted net income for the quarter was $176 million or $0.99 per diluted share compared to net loss of $85 million or negative $0.53 per diluted share for the same period in 2021. Adjusted EBITDA for the current quarter was $377 million an increase of $329 million compared to the first quarter of 2021. With the closing of the acquisitions of the Puget Sound Refinery and Sinclair and our renewables business approaching full operation, we are pleased to announce the first milestone in our capital allocation plan. The HF Sinclair Board of Directors has declared the reinstatement of the regular quarterly dividend at an increased rate of $0.40 per share. This announcement reflects our commitment to our capital allocation strategy of returning $1 billion in excess cash to shareholders over the next 12 months, with the long-term target of returning 50% of our net income to shareholders through dividends and buybacks. The Refining segment reported EBITDA of $208 million compared to $134 million for the first quarter of 2021 and adjusted EBITDA of $208 million compared to an adjusted loss of $65 million. This increase was driven by higher sales volumes from the Puget Sound and Sinclair acquisitions, as well as the impact of stronger product demand…

Thank you, Mike. Let’s begin by reviewing HF Sinclair’s financial highlights. As previously mentioned, the first quarter included a few unusual items, pre-tax earnings were negatively impacted by acquisition integration costs of $25 million and decommissioning charges of $1 million related to the Cheyenne or Refinery conversion to renewable diesel production, which were partially offset by a lower of cost or market valuation gain of $8.6 million. A table of these items can be found in our press release. Net cash provided by operations totaled $461 million, which included $45 million of turnaround spending and $214 million of cash sourced from working capital. HF Sinclair’s standalone capital expenditures totaled $144 million for the first quarter. As of March 31, HF Sinclair’s total liquidity stood at approximately $1.9 billion comprised of a standalone cash balance of $592 million along with our undrawn $1.35 billion unsecured credit facility. At March 31, we had $1.75 billion of standalone debt outstanding with a debt to cap ratio of 18% and a net debt to cap ratio of 12%. In April, we upsize our revolving credit facility due in 2026 to $1.65 billion from the previous $1.35 billion in order to provide additional liquidity for increased operational scale. HEP distributions received by HF Sinclair during the first quarter totaled $21 million. HF Sinclair owns $59.6 million HEP limited partner units, which following the acquisition of Sinclair Transportation represents 47% of HEP’s outstanding LP units at a market value of approximately $1.1 billion as of last Friday’s close. Turning to some guidance items. With the completion of the Sinclair acquisition, we have updated our expected capital guidance for 2022. We now expect to spend between $240 million and $260 million in Refining, between $250 million and $320 million in Renewables, $45 million to $60 million at…

The floor is now open for questions. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question comes from Manav Gupta with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

So first, thank you, Mike and Rich for keeping your word. You said you will restart the dividend in one year and you did so. Thank you for that. My quick question here is, 1Q saw a very strong rebound in your refining earnings, but 1Q still had some lingering issues from 4Q. You are not really running all out, even in 1Q. So now we look at 2Q, you have Puget Sound running, you have Sinclair assets running, looks like most of the stuff is up and running. So when you look at 2Q cracks and relative runs and no downtime unplanned in 2Q, should we expect a materially stronger 2Q given where the cracks are and that the fact that most of the planned and unplanned downtime is behind you?

Yes, Manav, this is Tim Go. I’ll take a shot at that. We are very constructive on our second quarter outlook. As you mentioned, we’ve got full quarter of Sinclair contributions to look forward to in the second quarter. We have some maintenance activities that will occur in April and May, but overall, no major turnarounds. And as you see on the throughput guidance that rich mentioned, we’ve got over 100,000 barrels a day more throughput that we expect to see in the second quarter versus the first quarter. So yes, we see in the overall industry, Manav, pre-pandemic demand and post pandemic supply. I mean, when you look at the rationalization that has taken place in the refining supply capacity, and you look at the impact of the Russian-Ukraine conflict, you definitely see an impact on supply in our markets, which is leading to the constructive market that we see in the second quarter.

Perfect, Mike. Quick follow up here is a very strong quarter again from Lubes. So if you could talk a little what drove that? But the bigger question here is, at one point you wanted to grow the Lubes business. Now you have got a lot of other growth avenues. And sometimes what happens is if the business is not growing in a firm, it kind of becomes a little bit of a divesture – can they – and the reason I’m asking is, like, if you think about it $100 million a quarter business in the past, you have said 10 multiple, even with some tax leakage, like you could get a 33% of your market cap in cash flow – in pure cash, if you do decide to divest this business. So theoretically, you could be doing like an MPC kind of a speedway transaction here. So just trying to understand this was a business you wanted to grow. Now you have a lot more avenues. Is it still very core to you? And if the right price is there, would you be even open to looking at divesting your Lubes business. And I’ll leave it there. Thank you so much.

Yes. Manav, thanks for your question. Obviously, with the earnings power of lubricants and apparent sustainability of that is a very attractive business, certainly for our owners. And we still feel like there’s some meat on the bone in terms of opportunities to improve that business, grow its finished lubricants cut or proportion at the expense of base oil sales. So we think the wins in our sales here. And we obviously look at all of our assets in terms of their worth to our shareholders versus their worth to somebody else. But our present intention is try to grow this business and realize the opportunity inherent in it.

Thank you so much guys.

Our next question comes from Phil Gresh with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Yes. Hi, good morning. First question just on the buyback plans you talked about obviously starting those back up later this year. I was just wondering if there any particular goal post you’re looking for to decide specific timing around that. Is there anything that would preclude you from considering that here in 2Q given the strength of fundamentals and where your cash balances stand today?

Hey, Phil. It’s Rich. Look, we – I think the real time guidance we would give you is we expect to return $1 billion of cash to shareholders over the course of the next 12 months. We will look at, to your point, how cash is growing and what the opportunity is and deploy accordingly. But again, we’d reiterate the point, $1 billion of cash over the next 12 months.

And, and just on the cash, Rich, you talked about $214 million from working capital in the first quarter. On the last earning call, you talked about certain factors that were going to drive positive working capital in the first half. You also had Sinclair close, which I believe is supposed to have a working capital benefit. Can you just update us to where you stand other than the cash tax piece?

Absolutely. So we picked up about $214 million of working capital through the first quarter to your point, Phil, Sinclair contributed about $90 million at close of that number. At the – our last quarter’s earnings, I quoted about an expectation of $150 million to $200 million of working capital recovery through the year. I still think that’s correct for the base business or the legacy business, excuse me. So we’ve got probably another $50 million to $100 million to go here, and that would include our expectation of reducing inventory of the legacy Sinclair assets.

Got it. And then just my one fundamental question on R&D, as we look at the second quarter here, your guidance that you expect to be modestly positive on EBITDA. Is there a way we can think about the production say target for the second quarter and just ultimately where you think the OpEx per gallon is going to go given all the startup costs we saw in the first quarter. Thanks.

Yes. Phil, this is Tom Creery. That’s a good question. We think probably even for the next quarter – this quarter and maybe even a little bit further, it’s going to be pretty messy in terms of EBITDA and production. First of all, we – what we have to do is fill operating tanks. We’re still doing some optimization across, there’s a lot of things going on at this point in time. So it’s going to be a little up and down that you saw some numbers in the first quarter and there was a lot of costs and not a lot of revenues as you can well imagine. So that’s impacting it and we’re going to see some of that carry over for the short-term. I will point out that we do, on our indication, our published indicator margin, we’re now providing you with a renewable diesel index, and this is sort of akin to what a refining crack spread is. And what we do is we publish a number on a quarterly basis based on current market prices for CBOT, ULSD, [indiscernible] RINs, BTC and transportation. So, like I say, it’s like a 3, 2, 1. If you want to talk to Craig afterwards, he can give you more of the detail and the formulation of this, but we thought it would help you guys look a little further in the future to see what’s going to happen on the renewable business.

Okay. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Roger Read with Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

Yes. Thanks. Good morning. Congratulations on the quarter, getting all these transactions done.

Thanks Roger.

Rich is going to come back at you again on the cash returns question. The $1 billion over the next 12 months, what is the outlook you have kind of mid-cycle or something along those lines to support that versus as Mavav I think was trying to get at things look pretty good right now. So how should we think about the pace of that share repo and what would be the difference between the environment we’re looking at today and the environment that sets that $1 billion sort of baseline expectation?

So, Roger, I point you back to what we’ve talked about previously for mid-cycle earnings for the new company. We think about it as a $2.5 billion EBITDA business and about $1.5 billion of free cash. So in that environment, we can easily support that $1 billion of return to your point. Currently, obviously crack spreads are far better than a mid-cycle environment. It’s very – as always impossible to predict what they’re going to look like over the next 12 months, but we feel very comfortable with our ability to return that cash over the next 12 months. Again, I’d reiterate the $1 billion over 12 months, but the run rate where we’re at, that’s going to be about $350 million of dividends with the balance and share repo.

Roger, I’m going to add to that and just say that, that $1 billion was poured in more of a mid-cycle environment, when we announced the combination with Sinclair, we’re well ahead of that today, but we are going to walk before we run and we’re going to start executing to this plan before we raise the bar.

No, I think that’s totally fair. I just wanted to understand kind of the ground rules here of the situation. Second part, obviously, progress here on renewable diesel in terms of things turning on, but profitability, I think as you all have been very clear was going to be a secondary factor to making sure the units are running. Can you give us kind of just a quick recap of how the two units have turned on or the pieces that have turned on so far, let’s call it, the actual versus expectations that you’ve had for the PTU and the RDU unit?

Sure. Roger, this is Tom again. We’ll start with Cheyenne. Currently Cheyenne is running really well, running a mix of both SVO and PAO. We’re off at 6,000 barrels a day of processing capacity today, which was our name plate capacity. It’s on spec. It looks real good. We’ve had somewhat very stable. We’ve had a few glitches, but they’ve been short-term glitches and on the RDU at Cheyenne. It’s looking really good there. On the PTU side, as you recall, we had two trains each of which is 6,500 barrels a day, one’s clean and one’s dirty. We’ve got both of those trains not currently, but over the course of the past two or three weeks, we’ve had one of those trains at any given time running a capacity at the 6,500 barrels a day and making on spec product. Basically now, we’ve turned it back a little bit and throughput, and that’s just dependent upon our ability to put finished RDU back into the marketplace and into Cheyenne, as well as Rawlins given some past obligations for buying RBD in the marketplace. So we’re filling in the holes with our own product now. So we’re not going to be going forward a huge buyer of RBD per se. And that was the whole intention behind the pretreatment unit is to give us more feet stock flexibility, and it’s working out pretty well or I’d say very well given the short time that we’ve had both the units up and Sinclair units in hand.

That was thorough. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Good morning team. Congrats here on a good quarter. The first question I had was around mid-cycle refining EBITDA. You guys have put out illustrative mid-cycle earnings at $1.35 billion, but that was predicated on a $10 Gulf Coast crack. And certainly the forwards are above that. I’d be curious on how your views of refining EBITDA are evolving. And then as we move into the second quarter, given all the backwardation in the curve, how we should think about things like capture rate, I think in your illustrated example, if I remember you used 70%. So any thoughts on the market and how your view of mid-cycle has evolved?

This is Tim. I can take the capture comment here and then maybe open up to the group on mid-cycle perspectives. But on – from a capture rate, certainly backwardation is going to hurt us on a capture going forward. Anytime we have dropping commodity prices, it’s always going to impact the ability for us to capture what is being quoted as the index market. We’re pleased to say in the first quarter or capture rates improved, a little bit lower ethanol costs helped us a stronger jet crack helped us as well. And of course, just the overall strength and the gasoline and distillate markets improved. We do see that improving in the second quarter as we have, first of all, no turnaround as we had in the first quarter with Woods Cross and then less maintenance and unplanned downtime as we did here in the first quarter as well. So we do expect to see some improved capture rates, even despite the steeper backwardation that we’re seeing in the second quarter. As far as mid-cycle, EBITDA, I’ll open it up to the group to kind of comment on that.

Break out the crystal ball, ladies and gentlemen. Neil, I think there are a couple of very important things going on. And these are well documented in both the press and the sell side. But the lack of refined product, finished product and intermediates coming out of Russia has created shortage for sure. And that’s reflected in the distillate cracks. How long that persists? I don’t see any signs of it ending soon or well. So I think that the draw on U.S. refining capacity is going to be very strong. Beyond that, as you well know, 1 million barrels of distillation capacity has exit the system since pre-pandemic. So now we’re at sort of one of capacity and 1.5 of supply, that’s 2.5% of world consumption. It’s a big number. And I think that we can expect assuming the economies stay reasonably strong, that commodity prices and particularly prices of our products are going to be relatively high, unknown around China demand, and COVID zero and things like that. There’s obviously quite a lot of uncertainty out there, but for our planning deck, our purpose is to try to run very strong, keep our markets and customers supplied with an expectation that the margins are going to be pretty good for the foreseeable future.

That’s a great perspective. And the follow-up is just around CapEx, it sounds like CapEx might have moved higher relative to previous guy, but maybe I misheard that. So just talk – could you go through the moving pieces again and anything we should keep in mind as we think about balance of the year.

Hey, Neil, it’s Rich. So yes, CapEx went up, which was entirely reflective of the Sinclair acquisition. So we’ve increased capital about $200 million to account for those assets. We did rebucket a little bit, you’ll notice. So now there’s obviously a marketing segment that’s broken out. Additionally, we’ve broken out corporate capital, which historically we had allocated across the businesses. So the buckets are a little bit different, but at a high level, you’ve got about a $200 million increase due to Sinclair.

That’s perfect. Thanks guys.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Doug Leggate with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Hi, good morning. This is Kalei on for Doug. So thanks for taking the question. My first question is a follow-up to Neil’s mid-cycle question. Wondering if the guiderail said you used to estimate that mid-cycle crack have improved. And what I’m thinking about are the shutdowns in U.S. refining capacity and what looks like a higher structural international nat gas cost that your peers will have to occur and ultimately pass down to their consumers. So I’m wondering you can address is the guiderails on the mid-cycle and whether that’s improved.

Well, yes, I mean, what we definitely think the market has structurally improved. When you look at the U.S. competitive advantage on natural gas, when you look at the million barrels, as Mike said of capacity that has come out of the United States refining capacity here in the last couple years. I don’t know, if I would necessarily say mid-cycle, the definition of mid-cycle has changed as much as we are in an above mid-cycle part of this cycle right now. And so we’ve continue to see strength and demand as particular jet has improved here over the last quarter. We’re seeing a definite shortage in supply relative to that demand right now. But as we continue to grow as the market continues to rebalance, we think we’re just in that upper part of the normal refining cycle right now. And we’re going to take full advantage of it.

And beyond the – the natural gas element, if that proves to be durable and part of the fundamentals, it’s going to roll through. The margin has to accommodate the cost of the inputs and that’s higher now by, you pick it, but probably up to a dollar a barrel versus not too long ago.

Thank you for that. My next question is for you, Mike. So wondering if you can talk to your cash returns target of $1 billion and clarify if the non-dividend portion will be 100% buybacks. Noting that in your past, the special dividend was an important part of your value proposition. So maybe you can just talk to the change in philosophy.

Yes. Kalei, I don’t use the words all or never, always or never. And 100% buybacks that’s a strong element. What I would tell you is that through our Sinclair transaction, we took on a large new shareholder in the form of the holding family, formerly 50-year owners of Sinclair. And there’s some expectation that there’ll be some selling in the future to date their posture is one of – of not being sellers. But we want to be able to offset those sales insofar as they come. And so I would say with that as context, we’ll probably favoring share repurchase to a large degree. But to date, no open market activity on the part of our new owners and their near term expectation is that there won’t be any. So directionally favored toward share purchase, we keep all options on the table, but I think share repurchase will be the biggie.

Great. I appreciate you guys. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Theresa Chen with Barclays. Your line is open.

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. First, I wanted to touch on the concept of changing product flows globally and domestically, as global product inventories remain tight. And the Gulf Coast seems to be the marginal supplier of product internationally, especially as the Russian distillates come off market, potentially in over a long period of compressing the ARB to the mid-con and increasing utilization for become assets, providing a tailwind for your assets there. On the flip side, you do have both enterprise and Magellan having announced projects to pipe Houston based refined products all the way to Colorado and as well into West Texas and into New Mexico, potentially compressing some of the premium niche margins that you’ve experienced historically in that segment. I was just wondering if you could help me think about net-net, what this means for the macro backdrop on a structural basis, as I believe some of those projects can come online as early as mid next year.

Yes. Theresa, this is Tim. Let me take a shot at that. We just talked about how the U.S. refining industry is advantaged versus the rest of the world in terms of cost structure. And we believe that’s going to result in more exports from the U.S. and to the rest of the world, as you talk about global trade flows. And it feels like the natural home for the barrels that are being produced on the coast are to be exported to these other parts of the world, where they can supply that at lower cost. We have watched these pipeline announcements, obviously, with interest, when we look at the typical Gulf Coast dips into these different regions, we look at the seasonality of those dips. We look at the low volumes in those markets in terms of demand. And we look at the long-term shipping commitments that are required. It’s just hard for us to see the economics of all that play out. So it’s just not obvious to us that those will go forward, but obviously we’ll watch that with interest.

Thank you. And also wanted to get your take on why you decided to defer the PTU. What have you observed in the market that’s led to this change and how much tap CapEx have you invested to date on that and under what circumstances would you return to complete it?

Yes. Theresa, this is Tom. As Rich said, we acquired Sinclair, we took a look at the PTU and we thought it might be a good idea to take a pause on this, look at the project economics, look at our alternative options, given the current market, as well as our future outlook. Our main goal here is to come up with a cohesive operation that allows us to optimize across the system and as you can, well, imagine we’ve got numerous RDU plants and we’re going to have numerous PTU plants. And we want to make sure that we allocate capital in the smartest way possible going forward so that we can be responsive to market conditions and maximize profitability. In terms of spend so far I’m going to pass it over to Rich, I think he’s got a better update on the numbers than I do.

Sure. So Theresa, we’ve got about $40 million or so of capital in the revised budget associated with the PTU. And that’s really bringing it to pause here. And then Tom mentioned right, we’re going to take a look at all of our alternatives in a integrated system to see what the best decision is going forward.

Yes, that, that’s really important point. The addition of Sinclair, gives us additional scale and additional ability to optimize. And we obviously have a large PTU that we’ve built. In Artesia, it’s very productive, whether it might make more sense to add on there to the exclusion of the Rawlins PTU, otherwise get the most efficient capital deployment in this market. And that’s really one of the reasons we’re taking a step back is just to ensure that we’re getting the best bargain that we can.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from Connor Lynagh with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Yes. Thanks. Wanting to go back to the lubes business, obviously a great quarter there. I think your expectation had been that you were going to see some compression in Rack Back with expansion at Rack Forward. It seems like you saw the ladder, but not the former. Just curious if you could give some color in what’s happening in the market there and the relevant sustainability of those dynamics.

Yes. This is Tim. Let me make a couple comments on that. We definitely saw base oil supply catch up to demand early in the first quarter, you saw that in our posted base oil cracks, VGO cracks that we put out in our index. And we did see some weakening as a result of base oil cracks, especially in the group one and group two area. At the end of the first quarter, those base oil cracks strengthened again in light of the Russian Ukraine conflict, obviously they had a big impact on VGO balances and overall base oil availability globally. The dip in base oil cracks just gave our finished lubes business, the opportunity to catch up. And that’s why you see the finished lubes business do well. At the same time, just as a reminder, our group one base oils are primarily specialty oils and process oils that were able to be a little stickier than what you saw in the posted group one, group two index. And so we were able to in the first quarter. We had an excellent quarter by having Rack Back and Rack Forward contributions kind of hitting at the same time. It’s more than just the market impacts though, I just want to kind of point out if you look back at our lubes and specialty business, we had a record year last year in terms of EBITDA, and of course this first quarter was a record as well. On the back of higher throughput, lower costs, higher margins, all of that contributed here in the first quarter to the results that you see. All of that despite what you hear about supply chain disruptions, especially in the additive world, COVID of course still impacting mobility and the extreme price volatility and being able to try to keep up with that, a real shout out to our lubes and specialty’s employees for being able to manage through all those challenges and still deliver the results they did in the first quarter.

Appreciate it. If you could give us any steer directionally, whether you think about it on a full year basis or just sequentially in the second quarter here, is this first quarter EBITDA a high water mark? If so by how much just probably speaking, what should we expect for the business for the rest of the year?

Hey Connor, so I think, yes, like it was obviously a very favorable quarter. We – depending on what we see with the Russia Ukraine conflict, the base oil markets are now look very constructive. And I think our view is that is more positive now on them than it was earlier this year. On the Rack Forward side, right, obviously prices have bounced back up. So we’ll probably still a little bit of margin compression here in the second quarter. But we’ve been very successful holding price and keeping price up with base oil. So we’re optimistic in general this year. We’re expecting a very good year.

Thanks very much.

Our next question comes from Matthew Blair with TPH. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning. Congrats on the strong result. I wanted to ask about the renewables efforts, now that you have the Cheyenne RDU plant up. Could you talk about your geographical end markets? Do you have a California LCFS pathway? And if so, are you railing all that product California now? Or are you sending any to Canada or the Gulf Coast?

Yes. Matthew, it’s Tom, I’ll answer that. Like everybody else, when you start up a plant, you don’t get a pathway automatically, so we’re on a contingency basis with car. Right now a lot of our product is destined towards California as you could well, imagine it is the biggest market, but that’s not to say that we’re not looking at other markets. Canada is looking more and more attractive. In fact, at some point in time, it’s offering a better net back than these California. And that’s even without understanding completely or getting all the information is what the Canadian RFS equivalent program is going to look like. So we’re starting to see more products move out of the United States towards Canada. And what we’ll do is we’ll chase the best market that gives us the best net back wherever it may be. And that’s including Portland or Oregon, California potentially offshore or even Canada. So we’re looking at anything and everything to maximize our returns.

Have you been given any indication on how long that California pathway might take to come through?

With the – we have to get three months of data into them. And then they come back to us with their number and typically it’s lower than the provisional number that they give us. So it is just the way that you have to do business in that market, so.

Got it. And then on the refining side, could you talk about opportunities to send barrels to Las Vegas? Was that something you were able to capitalize on in Q1 and has that persisted in Q2, just looking at the spreads between Las Vegas gasoline and Rockies gasoline, it looks like that might have been an opportunity for you in Q1.

Yes, this is Tim. Yes. We – the Las Vegas market has been pretty strong here in the first quarter, a lot of that as a result of some of the outages in California where some of the barrels would typically overflow into Las Vegas because of some shortages there the Las Vegas market became more short. We have the ability to ship barrels from the Rockies into Las Vegas area, which we did. And in addition with the Sinclair molecules in our portfolio now, it gives us the ability to really optimize where we put those barrels usually maximizing here in the Salt Lake City area, and then spilling over into Las Vegas as opportunity allows.

Great. Thank you.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Ryan Todd with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Good. Thanks. Maybe just a follow-up on some of the operational commentary earlier. I know the Puget Sound Refinery had from the time you took over, I had a couple early bottles in the fourth quarter and early into the first quarter. How was the Puget Sound Refinery running now? Any comments on the outlook from here. And then maybe with – I know you haven’t had a lot of time yet with the Sinclair assets. Any thoughts with the assets under your belt in terms of what you’re seeing and opportunities out there in the Western Rockies.

Yes. We – there’s no doubt, we had a rough start with Puget Sound back in the fourth quarter and spilled over into the first quarter, but we’re very pleased with how Puget Sound is rebounded and very strong March that contributed significantly to our bottom line. Our long-term view of Puget Sound hasn’t changed. We believe it’s a very competitive asset with strong talent and with strong ability to take advantage the market. We’re seeing that – we saw that in March. We’re seeing that in the second quarter as well. We do have some planned maintenance activities that are going on, not quite the same as a turnaround but planned maintenance that will continue to provide Puget Sound, the ability to capture the full margins to the rest of the summer. Sinclair on the other hand, came out of the gate strong. We’ve been very excited to have Sinclair. We really only had them for 18 days in the second quarter made sizeable contributions to our bottom line and we’re very pleased to have them. We think there’s just a tremendous opportunity to continue to optimize across the Rockies region. We have Woods Cross Refinery, as well as the two Sinclair refineries that allow us to move barrels as we talked about earlier. In the various parts of the country where the demands are asking for the barrels the most. And that’s one of the things you’ll see we talk about Midcon geography a lot, but because we have access to the West Coast, because we have access to even pad one, it allows us to take some of these barrels that we have in the Midcon and move them to the areas that where the ARB opportunities are opening up. We saw that in Las Vegas a little bit in the first quarter. We’re seeing that a little bit in pad one now where some of the pad two barrels are starting to move that way and creating good structural cracks here in the Midcon, where just a quarter ago, everyone was worried that the Midcon margins were going to be down for good. We’ve certainly rebounded significantly from there because of that logistics opportunity to move barrels to where it needs it.

Great. Thank you. And maybe a follow-up on renewable diesel. Any – I know the startup process there, you talked about some of that, and as you think of the feedstock, you’ve been running through the PTU and the learning curve that you’re getting us to both in terms of running that and logistics in terms of accessing feedstock. What are you seeing in the feedstock market that I believe that you had originally contracted feed for this year for maybe fully contracted for one of the units and partially for another, are you looking to increase feedstock contracts for those? Are you having any issues? Are you seeing the markets as tight or has it been easy to get all the feedstock that you’ve made it any comment just in general, in terms of what you’re seeing on feedstock dynamics as you look over the rest of the year?

Sure. Ryan, right now I’ll just make the statement that we’ve had zero problems of buying feedstock in the market. We just haven’t run into any problems. You’re correct. And that we’ve got a fair amount of volume secured through the year 2023, which puts us in a pretty good position at right now. And as we move forward, what we’re trying to do is optimize and looking at buying in advance to more of a spot basis. As you can tell, the times are pretty volatile right now, differentials are wide flat price on ag products like everything else is going up. So having said that, we’re looking at the best net back that we can possibly get and looking at various factors, such as price, incentive values, yield. And we do have an LP or a feedstock optimization model that we run to pick out the best ones, the best feedstocks as we move forward. So we think we’re in a pretty good position as it comes to feedstocks. There’s lots of options. And that includes looking further upstream at crush plantfacilities and things like that. So we’re not excluding anything at this point in time, so we’re keeping our options open and that’s part of this optimization process that we’re looking at moving forward, which encompasses the PTU at Rawlins.

Great. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Jason Gabelman with Cowen. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to first ask on some line items that you could hopefully guide to now that Sinclair – the Sinclair acquisition has closed. Can you give some indication on refining OpEx per barrel, either at a corporate level or within the Sinclair assets, what depreciation and SG&A goes to moving forward per quarter. And then on the renewable diesel any guidance on if you expect to run your assets at 100% rates or is it lower in line with what your PTU capacity as relative to the entire portfolio. And then I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Jason, that’s – there are a lot of questions there. What I would probably tell you is if you go back and look at some of the long-term views that we put out there, long-term perspective we have on Puget Sound and Sinclair, you can go back and look at OpEx contributions and BNA as well. But what I would also probably refer you to is why don’t you take that offline with Craig and you guys can work through those details as needed.

Okay. Well, let me ask you this way. Is that – yes, sorry.

No, I was just going to talk to the Renewables section, but just saying that, we still got one unit to bring on and that’s the RDU at Artesia, which is going to make a big impact on our ability to run off feedstocks. But right now, we will be running towards maximum wherever we can, wherever it’s economic. And that’s using volumes that have been committed to as well as PTU volumes and then having to buy in the marketplace to fill in any holes. So unless economic conditions dictate that we shouldn’t run, we will be running as much through the RDU segment as we potentially can.

Got it. And then my second question is on the Rockies refining region, which is very strong right now, but as I think about moving forward, there’s going to be another refinery returning to market I believe early next year. And then there’s been discussion of another products pipeline to import product into that region. So if you just discuss how you think about the product premiums you’re receiving in that market, how you expect those to evolve over time and what’s embedded in your mid-cycle EBITDA. Thanks.

So, Jason, let me – Theresa, let me take crack at that. I think Tim mentioned earlier that we have a hard time seeing the logic to some of these pipeline projects. So we would continue to expect that these regions, these – the Rockies in particular, right, will be very seasonally strong. But again, emphasis on the seasonal. I think this is all folded into the mid-cycle guidance we’ve given. So no changes or our expectations there in terms of capture or regional basis.

All right. Thanks for the answers.

Our next question comes from Paul Cheng with Scotia Bank. Your line is open.

Hey guys, good morning.

Hello, Paul.

Have to apologize first because I want to talk about the mid-cycle margin. In your illustrative example that you use a 70% capture rate. But if we look back over the past five quarters, they call you roughly about 50%, yes, your capture rate. We understand the allocation curve probably hurt in, but that probably only say call in may be 2% or so on the capture rate. So on a going forward basis, do you still believe 70% is the right capture rate that we should use or that you think that you could ultimately settle back down into that level? And if you think so what kind of improvement do you expecting that we drive that? That’s the first question.

Hey Paul, it’s Rich. So yes, I think we still believe the 70% number is accurate. I think the operational problems we had the last six months impacted our capture an order of magnitude larger than the number you’re quoting. So I think as long as we run the plant study and the kind of markets we’re looking at 70% is appropriate.

Okay. And on marketing, I mean, I think that that is a great platform that you guys now have that want to see my – is there any plan how you want to expand your geographic reach in that business and maybe making it substantially larger than where you are or that you’re going to stick with where your refinery is operating. So what’s the game plan in that business? And how that you can further integrate and talking perhaps that also during the winter time, what are benefit operationally that and financially you should expect, because I mean in your operating region during the winter time, you tends to be long supply and so that typically causing some problem for the region, but with your own outlet, I would imagine that we have a lot of operational benefit for you and maybe financially also, but can you maybe help us understand and maybe bit better?

Yes. Paul, thanks for teeing that up for me. I appreciate it. You’re absolutely right. When you go to bed at night with confidence that you’ve sold most of your product, the following day through your own branded outlets, it’s an easier marketing regime, right? And more consistent and that’s the important point. We want to be in the market every day reliably supplying these branded stations and our unbranded customers. But our intention is to work within our supply footprint effectively converting existing sales to branded sales by branding more stations. And that’s going to happen 1, 5, 10 at a time as these things often do. But we think it’s a very productive channel. We’re super excited about the brand itself and its possibilities. And in terms of having that channel to market, we think it provides some more consistency to our marketing and to our margin structure. So that, that works real well as you suggest in the wintertime, summertime. I think it’s just all about consistency.

Mike, will you expand beyond the existing market region, are you going to stick to the current market region?

It’s certainly a nationally appealing brand Paul, but the real – the best economics are with our own molecules as a starting point. And in so far as we get saturated there, we’ll take it further.

All right. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Matthew Blair with TPH. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks for taking the follow-up. I just wanted to confirm with the Sinclair marketing as well as the RDU startup, are you now net long RINs?

So Matthew on a run rate basis, once we’re up and run rate will be about balance. So as Tom alluded to, right, we still got the Artesia RDU to ramp up here in the second quarter. So as we sit here today, we’re still a little short but we’ve got line of sight to be in balance here within the year.

Great. Thank you.

There are no further questions at this time. I’ll turn the call back over to Mike Jennings for closing remarks.

Thanks, Chantel. So thank you all for participating with us today. I’ll close with just a couple thoughts. First is that I believe we’ve assembled a really strategic group of assets and team members, and that we’re quite prepared to meet the market opportunity that sits in front of us. We believe that because of the supply shortfalls from Russia and Europe, our production capacity will be in really high demand through the medium-term. And then that should be financially very productive. Our operations and integration activities are going well. And I appreciate the teamwork and the progress that I see in just a couple months or less than that, in fact in what is in many respects, a new venture and a great new opportunity for HF Sinclair. And finally well, our day-to-day focus is always on safe execution. We’re in business to serve our customers and owners. And our focus on cash generation and capital returns to our shareholders is intense and it’s engineered to reward the capital that they’ve entrusted us to manage. So thank you again for joining us on the call and we look forward speaking to you soon.

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