Good morning. My name is Dennis, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the DICK'S Sporting Goods, Inc. Fourth quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Nate Gilch, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2023 results. On today's call will be Lauren Hobart, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Navdeep Gupta, our Chief Financial Officer. A playback of today's call will be archived on our Investor Relations website located at investors.dicks.com for approximately 12 months. As a reminder, we will be making forward-looking statements which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. Any such statements should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements in our earnings release and risk factor discussions in our filings with the SEC, including our last annual report on Form 10-K and our most recent Form 10-Q, as well as cautionary statements made during this call. We assume no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements or information. Please refer to our Investor Relations website to find a reconciliation of our non-GAAP financial measures referenced in today's call. And finally, a few admin items. First, a reminder about our comparable store sales reporting for fiscal 2023. It's important to note that fiscal 2023 was a 53-week year. Our comp sales calculations exclude the extra week from both our full year 2023 and fourth quarter 2023 results. Thus, these metrics have been calculated on a 52-week and 13-week comparable basis. Second, beginning in fiscal 2024, we are revising our comparable store sales calculations to include revenue from our GameChanger business. Next, we'll be playing a short year-end video in advance of our prepared remarks. And starting toward the end of Navdeep's prepared remarks, we'll also be sharing slides to visually support key discussion points. And finally, for your future scheduling purposes, we are tentatively planning to publish our first quarter 2024 earnings results on May 29, 2024. With that, let's play the video. [Presentation]

Good morning, everyone. I hope you enjoyed the video. DICK'S is a really special company with 75 years of history reinventing sport. It's been a terrific year, and I'm really proud of the team for their extraordinary efforts. Since our founding in 1948, DICK'S had believed in the power of sports to change lives. We bring this to life every day through the experience we provide for our athletes; the differentiated products we offer; the marketing we create to connect our athletes deeply with our brand; and most importantly, our teammates. Through these strategic pillars, we are actively creating and defining our future. And during this past year, it's evident just how far we've extended our leadership position. For the full year, we delivered record sales of $13 billion. On a 52-week comparable basis, our comps increased 2.4%, driven by growth in transactions as we continue to gain market share. We added nearly 7 million new athletes during the year and reached record highs in our active athlete database. It's clear that sport and leading healthy, active lifestyles are priorities for our athletes, and they are increasingly looking to DICK'S Sporting Goods to meet these needs. With our industry-leading assortment and strong execution, we capped off the year with incredibly strong fourth quarter and holiday season. Including week 53, our quarterly sales grew 7.8% to $3.9 billion. On a 13-week comparable basis, our comps increased 2.8%, which was on top of a 5.3% comp increase last year. On a non-GAAP basis, our gross margin expanded more than 200 basis points, driven by higher merchandise margin. Our non-GAAP EBT margin was 11%. And we delivered non-GAAP EPS of $3.85, which included $0.19 for the extra week. On a 13-week comparable basis, our non-GAAP EPS was $3.66, an increase of 25% versus…

Thank you, Lauren, and good morning, everyone. Let's begin with some highlights of our full year 2023 results, which was a 53-week year. Consolidated sales increased 5% to $12.98 billion, which included $170 million from the 53rd week. On a 52-week comparable basis, our comps increased 2.4%, and we continue to gain market share. Our comps were driven by a 1.6% increase in transaction and a 0.8% increase in average ticket. On a non-GAAP basis, gross profit for the full year was $4.55 billion or 35.01% of net sales, an increase of 36 basis points from last year. This increase was driven by lower supply chain costs, which leveraged 80 basis points. This was partially offset by lower merchandise margin of 53 basis points, which was entirely due to higher shrink. To be clear, absent the headwind from shrink, our merchandise margin would have been flat. . Non-GAAP EBT was $1.4 billion or 10.8% of net sales, and we delivered non-GAAP earnings per diluted share of $12.91, which included $0.19 from the 53rd week. On a 52-week comparable basis, our non-GAAP earnings per diluted share were $12.72. This compares to a non-GAAP earnings per diluted share of $12.04 in 2022, an increase of 5.6% on a 52- to 52-week basis. I will remind you that our 2023 tax rate was lower than our typical tax rate driven by the favorable impact of vesting of employee equity awards and exercises during the year. This positively impacted earnings per diluted share by $0.44 compared to the prior year. As we have discussed on our prior calls, to continue fueling our long-term growth, during the second half of 2023, we took actions to better align our talent, organizational design and spending in support of our most critical strategies while also streamlining our overall…

Thanks, Navdeep. As we turn to 2024, our focus is on driving sustained profitable growth by innovating within the omnichannel athlete experience, curating a compelling and differentiated product assortment, providing a best-in-class teammate experience and driving deep engagement with the DICK'S brand. Industry leaders consistently innovate from a foundation of strength, positioning themselves ahead of the curve. With this mindset, a key part of our growth strategy for this year and future years is continuing to drive omnichannel athlete engagement by repositioning our portfolio and experiences through house of Sport and our next-generation 50,000 DICK'S store. With House of Sport, we are truly redefining sports retail. Since we launched our first location in 2021, this highly experiential destination has brought very strong engagement with our athletes, brand partners and communities and has delivered powerful financial results. Compared to a typical DICK'S store, athletes are traveling farther to visit House of Sport, increasing the time they spend in the store and visiting more frequently. Because of the engagement and experience at House of Sport, our national brand partners are providing access to unique and expanded assortments, while new and emerging brands see it as a platform for growth. With a total of 12 House of Sport locations now open, we look forward to opening another 8 locations in 2024. Next month, we are so excited to open a House of Sport in our home town of Pittsburgh and at the Prudential Center in Downtown Boston. We will support these grand openings with high-impact marketing. With the compelling economics Navdeep outlined, House of Sport is a significant part of our future growth story. As we said, by 2027, we expect to have between 75 to 100 House of Sport locations across the country. The vast majority of these will be relocations or…

[Operator Instructions] Your first question is from the line of Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley.

My first question is on margins and growth going forward. The business looks like it's rebased, and you now have the House of Sport coming in, which sound very positive to both growth and to margin. Curious how we should think about the business from this point going forward. Are you thinking about it in terms of earnings growth? Or should we think about the margin growing and making this a margin story as well?

Thanks, Simeon. We are incredibly excited about the momentum that we have in our business, just coming off of this Q4 with a 2.8% comp on top of a 5.3% comp. And then looking forward to the year, we are driving growth in top line, margin and profitability overall. And I think the key driver of the margin story is really the differentiated product that we continue to have access to and expand access to. That product is resonating with athletes, it's creating newness and innovation and just a feel in the store of energy. And it's also enabling us to navigate, this past Q4, a fairly promotional environment, where we were able to navigate without having to be extremely promotional. And actually, we drove over 200 basis points of gross margin. So House of Sport is a great lever in that it enables us to provide a completely immersive experience for athletes. We've got rock-climbing walls and tracks and field and a whole bunch of elevated service and visual presentation. But importantly, from a margin standpoint, House of Sport does encourage our brand partners, both our strategic partners and our new and emerging brand partners, to experiment. We can bring a brand to life in our Co Lab space in a really exciting way, and it's therefore enabling us to drive even deeper partnerships and more access to new and different products. So overall, very confident about the long-term margin story.

Okay. And I'll paraphrase, but I don't want it to be my follow-up. But the paraphrase, it sounds like in the future, a combination of margins and earnings growth. It's not just about dollar growth, but margins can expand as well. And then my follow-up is, thinking about the industry and market share for 2024 among the categories that you sell, it's just hard because we don't see a clean benchmark for what the industry can grow. But do you assume the industry grows? And are we reaching some type of normal industry growth CAGR and market share growth CAGR? And how do you -- how should we think about that for the next several years?

Yes. So our strategy is to continue to gain market share in this industry, and we're doing that in several ways. We're doing it with the strategic pillars that we've talked about, be it the differentiated products; our investment in athlete experience; our investment in our brand and our teammate experience, which is really an incredible asset that we have because we have the best teammates in the business, and they have incredible momentum. So when we look at the growth, we're -- it's coming from market share gains. We're also reimagining our portfolio such that we're going to have 20 House of Sports and 27 new prototypes of our 50,000 new experience, which is really a takedown of House of Sport and a super exciting place. So to answer your question directly, we're not counting on a significant amount of category growth because we think we have so much momentum to drive share.

I mean, I'll just build on what Lauren said. If you look at it, right, it's $140 billion overall industry, which is highly fragmented. And what we reiterated today is our core strategies are working really well, and we actually gained almost 50 basis points of our market share over 2023. So really exciting about the results we are posting as well as the core strategy and how those core strategies are resonating with our athletes.

I'm going to add one last thing to Navdeep's comments, which is the consumer has held up incredibly well. We saw that in Q4, we saw it all last year, where we didn't see a trade-down from best to better, better to good. We saw growth across all income demographics. So we do have a healthy consumer, and they are increasingly choosing DICK'S to meet their needs.

Your next question is from the line of Adrienne Yih with Barclays.

Congrats on the quarter and the year, really great, phenomenal execution. So Lauren, I'm going to stick with the House of Sports, the notion that the kind of 4-wall EBITDA is higher than the core. What exactly -- and I know you touched on this earlier. But can you describe sort of the revenue model? How much is from goods, I guess, primarily versus services? The goods that are in there, I assume they sound like they're better and best. And then how much of the House of Sports is sort of exclusive and differentiated versus core DICK'S? And then for Navdeep, my follow-up is, I mean, inventory is so clean, right, across kind of like the landscape. So two things here. Can you first discuss the level of innovation and trends that you're seeing in 2024? And then secondarily, can you talk about sort of the need and the potential for replenishment, given that inventory levels are pretty low?

Thanks, Adrienne, yes. So when you look at a House of Sport store, it's important to note that all of our core strategies are coming to life in just even a dialed up way. So our differentiated product, the access we have there, the service model, the experience, is all coming to life in a really fantastic way. The vast majority of our revenue still comes from product. Obviously, we also have service revenue in there, but it's a typical business model. And I think what's really driving that is how the athlete is responding. We've got athletes who are driving further, they're coming more frequently, they're spending more time when they get to a House of Sport. And overall, the sales per square foot as a result of that is higher. So it's -- really, it's our core business model, just really elevated. I'll start with the answer to the question you asked Navdeep, just about the newness and the innovation for 2024. We are really excited. And I would say, if you go into our stores right now, you can see our spring set. You can see that on the softline side as well as the hardlines and team sports, we are very excited about the innovation that's coming down the pike and our increased access to some of the very hot product that people are reacting -- the athletes are reacting really well to. Navdeep, I'll turn it to you for the inventory question.

Adrienne, thanks for the question. So really pleased with the overall inventory and the quality of the inventory that we finished 2023 with. Our inventory grew just about 1% on top of a 5% growth in sales. And as we reiterated this morning, that the focus that we have of keeping our inventory clean and well positioned is a core tenet and a core strategy of the company, and that is what is allowing us to continue to differentiate our results versus our competition. And in terms of our expectations for 2024, like Lauren said, there is so much of innovative and newness available to us in the market, not only from the national brands, but also from the emerging brands. So looking deeper into it and really excited about the spring assortment as well as the more assortment that we see coming into our stores, both in House of Sport and in the next-gen 50,000 locations.

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Horvers with JPMorgan.

So my first question is trying to pull together some of the different commentary and questions that we've already had. As you think about -- you gave the EBITDA -- 4-wall EBITDA margin for both concepts. Can you talk about the merch margin? It sounds like it's higher. How does that -- how do you think about the other lines in the P&L? Is the occupancy cost higher? And then what about the cost to actually operate the store? In terms of trying to understand the breakdown to get to that 20% 4-wall EBITDA margin. And how does that compare to the existing box?

Yes, Chris, first of all, really excited to be able to share the economics of our House of Sport location and the 50,000, our next-gen store. This has been something that has been requested for a while, but we wanted to make sure we had enough maturity as well as enough time behind us to be able to share these economics. So let's start with the top line. Really great to see, first of all, our stores open at full maturity because of the strong brand awareness and the brand positioning that we have in these markets. The House of Sport locations are opening on an omnichannel basis, almost about a $35 million in top line sales and almost about $14 million when it comes to the next-gen 50,000. And like I think that you called it out, that we have a comparable EBITDA margins between both these boxes. And as you can expect, there's a little bit of an interplay that happens between the margin and the SG&A. You have a little bit more of the elevated experience being provided in House of Sport locations, and so therefore, there is a little bit of a higher service level component of it. But the service also comes with the revenue associated with this, so there's a little bit of a higher margin you get from that. I would say -- and I think that you called out occupancy. There's a little bit of a more capital investment that we are putting into it, so that plays into the depreciation. But when you look at the overall, just the operating -- or the EBITDA margin rates that we are driving, we are very, very happy with the returns that we are driving and the strong profitability that we are delivering out of both these boxes.

Got it. So succinctly, it allows you -- and I think, Lauren, you said this earlier. It's basically this is the next sort of lever to continue to gain share. And the components might be different, but at the end of the day, the margin returns are comparable and it's the opportunity to continue to grow.

Yes. Chris, I will build on what we have been saying, that the financial returns are great, but what is even better is how well this overall concept is resonating not only with our brand partners, with our athletes and also with the community. And that's what we see as a long-term driver of the differentiation of getting better access, getting more allocated product available to us, having the emerging brands come to us and want to partner with us in these really, really experiential destinations. And that is what we consider as a true differentiator DICK'S Sporting Goods.

Understood. That's very helpful. And my follow-up is, Navdeep, you talked about some particular headwinds in the first quarter. Maybe is there -- maybe could you just bring those all together? And is there a certain way that we should be thinking about the investments and how that's going to affect the SG&A? And you talked about shrink in terms of the gross margin. Would you still expect merchandise margin to be up? So maybe just a finer point around the first quarter.

Yes. So a few comments that we gave out in our prepared comments today. First of all, I'll start with the sales, right? We're going to have a shifted calendar, so there will be a little bit of an impact to our total top line sales total revenue, but not a significant impact when you think around a shifted basis on comp. What we did call out was just a reminder, we saw the elevated levels of shrink in Q2 of 2023. So in Q1, we haven't lapped that as yet. So as you all are modeling, it will be helpful to keep that in mind. The other is the tax rate. If you remember, our tax rate in Q1 was significantly low compared to our normalized tax rate, and you will see that piece play out as well. And finally, hopefully, you all have watched some of the exciting brand campaigns that we have going on right now between brand campaigns associated with our launch of our CALIA Inspire collection, our dicks.com campaign. And so we are investing into that. In addition, we're going to be opening two really exciting House of Sport locations here in Q1 between Ross Park Mall here in Pittsburgh and at Prudential Center. So you will see some of the investments associated with those two stores in Q1 as well. So a slightly elevated levels of preopening expense, maybe I'll just put a finer point on that one.

Your next question is from the line of Kate McShane with Goldman Sachs.

I wanted to ask about just if there was any more detail on the performance of footwear versus apparel versus hardlines in the fourth quarter. And our second question was, if there was any impact to the 2024 comp guide as a result of the relocations that you're doing for House of Sport.

Thanks, Kate. So in terms of category performance, with the 2.8% comp this past quarter, we saw growth across all of our key categories. So growth in footwear, growth in apparel and growth in some of the key hardlines categories. So it really was across the board. The only area of softness was the cold weather didn't come as we had hoped it would, and so there was some softness in outerwear. But across the board, really strong growth in our core categories. I'll turn it to Navdeep for the next question.

Yes. Kate, in terms of the comp guidance, overall, like we said, because of the shifted calendar, no material impact to the comp cadence itself when you look at it. However, keep in mind, last year, we were converting eight combo locations into House of Sport which were closed during the first half of last year. So we expect our comp in the first half to be slightly stronger than the comps in the back half of the year.

But there won't be any impact from store closures as you relocate this year?

No. We're not doing the closed remodels as we did last year.

Your next question is from the line of Robby Ohmes with Bank of America.

Great quarter, and thanks for all the commentary on the store economics. Really appreciate that. A couple of follow-ups on just the fourth quarter. Can you give us a sense of sort of digital transactions versus in-store transactions in the fourth quarter? Were in-store transactions positive?

Robby, thanks for the question. We're not guiding to digital versus in-store overall. In the fourth quarter, transactions were flat and most of the growth came from ticket. However, it's really important to note that, in Q4 of last year, we were up over 7.6% in transactions. So from a 2-year basis on an omnichannel standpoint, really, really strong growth in transactions. Digital business remains really strong, but we're not going to get into more detail than that.

And then just for the comp guidance you're giving for 2024. Should we -- how should we think about the ticket versus transaction component?

Yes, Robby, we won't break that down any further. I'm really excited about -- to be able to guide on a positive basis on top of a 2.4% comp from last year. And our focus is continuing to be about driving sales and profitability growth for the business.

Overall, this year, we did have -- the majority of growth did come from transaction growth, if you look at the 2.4%. So we are very confident in our comp guidance.

And then just one quick clarification. On the -- for the store economic models, when you guys say omnichannel sales, is it -- is that -- is it a web sale that's fulfilled by the store to call it -- what gets included in omnichannel sales at a House of Sport or the new 50,000 store?

Yes. No, Robby, that's exactly that. It's not only the stores that are fulfilled from a store with an athlete walking in. Even an omnichannel sale or a digital sale that gets fulfilled by the store is also included in that because that's what we look as the 4-wall performance of the store, including the work that our team members are doing in fulfilling an omnichannel order.

Yes. And the stores are fulfilling over 80% of e-com orders, 90% of orders across the board, if you include the brick-and-mortar. So it's appropriate to think of it as omnichannel sales.

Your next question is from the line of Brian Nagel with Oppenheimer.

Congrats on another nice quarter.

Thank you.

Thank you.

First question I have, just to go back -- it wasn't that long ago we were talking a lot about shrink. Looking at the results today in your commentary, it seems as though you've done a nice job kind of getting your arms around the shrink. The question I have is, as we're looking now into 2024, how should we be thinking about the trajectory in shrink or the mitigation efforts that are ongoing at DICK'S to manage shrink?

Thanks, Brian. Yes, we do feel that we are appropriately reserved for shrink. We've been doing significantly more inventory pulses and I do believe that we have an appropriate reserve going forward. In Q1, it's important to note that we are still up against the headwind of the fact that we didn't put the extra shrink reserve in until the end of Q2 last year. But overall, we're doing a lot of things in store to mitigate. We're working with loss prevention and local law enforcement as well as moving products to the back of the store that are high shrink. So we have a lot going on. But overall, we are appropriately reserved.

Got it. And then my follow-up question, this is a bit of, I think, a follow-up to the prior question. But just with regard to transaction growth. So DICK'S has done a phenomenal job here driving transaction growth, and you clearly stand out amongst most retailers doing so. You're recognizing all the changes that have happened in the business and the merchandising and all. But is there anything you can kind of help us understand better, underlying drivers of that transaction growth? Are you seeing any type of variability across the chain, maybe within departments, so we get a better understanding of kind of the sustainability of that?

Brian, I really think the transaction growth has so much to do with things like our differentiated product and the access that we have. But on top of that, when athletes are coming into our stores, our team -- or shopping online, our team is striving to make that omnichannel athlete experience, really satisfy, and they're making great progress there. And then also, I think the brand and the fact that we are a brand that is very much based in our values, and we continue to talk about the power of sports. So all of those things are working together and driving strong transactions.

Yes, Brian, I'll add to the fact that, if you look at it in 2023 and in fourth quarter, we gained 7 million new athletes in 2023. And just in fourth quarter alone, we gained 2 million new athletes. So back to Lauren's point, the athlete database that we have, the work that we have been doing around personalization and the loyalty and our scorecard program, in addition to having the right product, our ability to be able to go and address and discuss those type of features and product availability in our store is resonating very well as well with our athletes.

Your next question is from the line of John Kernan with TD Cowen.

Congrats on another great year. I think you said the House of sports, they open at maturity. How do we think about the comp contribution for both House of Sport and the next-gen 50,000 square foot stores if they're opening at maturity? How do we think about them, the comp contribution in year 2 and beyond, going forward?

Yes. John, I think that's a 2-part question there, so I'll start with the second part in terms of the comp contribution as we look at the growth in the second year. And that has been one of the questions. We are very optimistic and confident in the results that we are seeing. So first of all, we don't have a large sample. There are two stores of our stores that were opened in 2021 and 2022. They actually have comped the second full year. And what we saw was, in 2023, they actually posted comp sales growth again in year 2. So really happy with the overall performance. In terms of the comp contribution and so the opportunities when we are relocating, let's say, a 50,000 or an 80,000 box that goes from somewhere to $19 million to $20 million going to closer to a $35 million omnichannel sales, that's the comp contribution that we are really excited about as well. And then -- and I would be remiss if I didn't add the differentiated product that we are able to get through these things, through the next-gen 50,000 or House or Sport location, that allows us to cascade that innovation and newness down into our -- into the normal DICK'S stores as well, is allowing us to continue to elevate the overall portfolio of the stores and the performance that we are seeing out of those.

That's helpful. I guess my follow-up, just shift to more of a category level. Softlines, apparel, footwear, I think it's going to be around 60% of the business this year. It's not terribly different from where it was historically, but I think we can all see that the allocations from vendors have gotten significantly better. The private label offering has clearly increased as well. I think this has contributed to 255 basis points in merch margin expansion since pre-COVID levels. How should we think about future merch margin? Particularly as all of the softline categories seem to be elevated at this point.

Yes. So John, I would say that the overall -- the composition of the product continues to be the biggest driver of our merch margin expansion when you look at it versus 2019. And we are confident that, that will continue to be one of the biggest drivers. The two other drivers that we talk about internally a lot is our excitement about the vertical brand work. And hopefully, you've seen some of the work that we have recently launched in terms of the CALIA Inspire product that we launched here in 2024. The DSG brand is resonating really well with our athletes. We actually have now an always-on kind of a message around DSG brand. So the softline vertical brand product is resonating really well with our athletes. So the vertical brand and continuing to lean into that with moving towards the $2 billion long-term goal that we have will be another big driver of the margin in the recent years as well as we look forward on a go-forward basis. And finally, we are constantly elevating our -- some of the promotional optimization and pricing optimization capabilities as well. So we'll continue to lean into the same things that we have leaned on, and really confident about the differentiated product.

John, it's also -- it's across the board. It's not -- there isn't just a softlines story here. We are focused on margin gains across the entire portfolio.

Your next question is from the line of Joe Feldman with Telsey Advisory Group.

Great quarter. I was wondering if you could share a little more thought on the share gain that you're seeing and where that may be coming from. Like is it -- I'm just curious, I mean, you guys continue to execute so well. And maybe you could share some thoughts there.

Thanks, Joe. I mean, we are gaining market share due to our differentiated experience, the reimagining of our portfolio, the experience we're providing. I think it's coming from a lot of places. And as we continue to get differentiated access to product, I believe it will continue to come.

Got it. And then just a quick sort of unrelated follow-up. But with regard to freight, and I have -- it's been a tailwind for you guys. When does -- do we lap some of that? And also, have you seen any pressure on future costs related to what's going on in kind of the global supply chain network with the Red Sea, the Panama Canal issues, all those kinds of things?

Yes, Joe, like you called out in 2023, we saw the tailwind from the freight. As we look to 2024, we are not expecting any kind of tailwind or headwind right now. But to your point, we are definitely evaluating the evolving situation that we have across the world right now. But overall, we feel great about the inventory position, and we'll continue to monitor how the overall situations evolve.

Your next question is from the line of Warren Cheng with Evercore ISI.

I was wondering how the shift to the newer concepts and also the rollout of the [ floor ] decks will impact the assortment on a couple of dimensions. So first, if you think about sort of the big global brands versus smaller brands or your own private label, how will that mix skew as you build out some of the newer concepts? It sounds like, from an answer to an earlier question, that vertical brand penetration is going to go up from here. Curious on the global brand aspect.

Yes. Warren, we are excited, I would say, across the board, right? Our partnership with the national brands is an all-time high. We continue to differentiate not only our service levels, but the experience that we provide within our stores. And the national brands, all of them want to be rooted in sports. So when they look to a partner that can not only bring their full assortment and breadth of product to life, but actually can bring that across -- bring that to life across the nation, we are the destination for that. So we continue to see a very strong level of partnership and interest and the innovation and newness that is coming into our stores. Likewise, we are very excited about some of the emerging brands like On and HOKA and Free People Movement. And we see the opportunity not only to continue to have a deeper partnership with these brands, but also expand that relationship deeper into our own chain. And finally, the work that our vertical brand team has done is phenomenal, really excited about the launches that we have done this year and what more is to come in 2024.

I also wanted to ask about your latest view on where you see long-term normalized gross margins and EBIT margins as you shift to these newer concepts. There's a lot of moving parts here. And curious if you can give us your view on the level and also the ongoing drivers that will shape margins past this year.

Yes. Warren, today, we are not going to be providing a long-term algorithm. But what we have consistently said is and what we are consistently delivering is the fact that we are confident in driving the long-term sales and profitability of the company leaning into the core strategies that Lauren has laid it out today. So we'll continue to execute and confident in the guidance that we have provided to be able to drive positive comps in 2024 on top of a strong 2.4% comp that we posted in '23.

Today's final question will come from the line of Mike Baker with D.A. Davidson.

Okay. I wanted to ask a follow-up on the outdoor concepts. You talked about bigger-picture restructuring or changing some things there. But more specifics, what is the plan in terms of store count there? Are you closing those stores down? And just longer term, a couple of iterations you've had on the outdoor business in your history. What's sort of the long-term thought process there?

Yes, Mike, we continue to be really excited about the outdoor category. When you look at it at the macro level, this is a $40 billion highly fragmented TAM that is out there. And we know there is an opportunity to similarly differentiate in terms of service, product experience as well as the overall assortment that we can provide. So what we have done in 2023, we've acquired Moosejaw and the work that we did last year was actually bringing the back office operation of Moosejaw and Public Lands together to be able to drive the long-term profitability in that business. And what we have called out in the business optimization actions are actually rationalizing some of the investments that we have made. We are not -- we are closing Moosejaw locations, but we are confident in the go-forward business, and we'll continue to evaluate that space. But overall, on a long-term basis, continue to remain really confident about the opportunity in the outdoor segment.

Okay. One quick follow-up. I may have missed it. Just looking for a number. Did you tell us how much it costs, the cost to build the 50,000 stores? So I think you gave us the sales volume and the EBITDA margin. I may have missed it, I didn't hear the cost to build and therefore the cash-on-cash returns.

Yes. Actually, Mike, on both these metrics are in the slide that will be there on our Investor Relations webpage, both the net capital investment, inventory, as well as the preopening and then the cash-on-cash return.

Got it. Sorry, doing the call on the phone, so I missed that. Appreciate the color.

We appreciate the flexibility on joining us early here.

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call over to Lauren Hobart, President and Chief Executive Officer, for closing remarks.

Thanks, everybody, and thanks for your interest in DICK'S Sporting Goods. And I want to give a shout out to our 50,000 teammates who really are the reason that we are driving these incredible results. Thank you all very much. See you next quarter.