Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Dolby Laboratories' Conference Call discussing Fiscal Fourth Quarter and Fiscal 2019 Results. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, you will be invited to participate in the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded, Thursday, November 14th, 2019. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jason Dea, Director of Investor Relations for Dolby Laboratories. Please go ahead. Jason.

Good afternoon. Welcome to Dolby Laboratories' fourth quarter 2019 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Kevin Yeaman, Dolby Laboratories President and CEO; and Lewis Chew, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made today. A discussion of some of these risks and uncertainties can be found in the earnings press release that we issued today, under the section captioned Risk Factors, as well as in our most recent report on Form 10-Q. Dolby assumes no obligation and does not intend to update any forward-looking statements made during this call as a result of new information or future events. During today's call, we will discuss GAAP and non-GAAP financial information measures. A reconciliation between the two is available in our earnings press release and in the Dolby Laboratories' Investor Relations data sheet on the Investor Relations' section of our website. As for the content of today's call, Lewis will begin with a recap of Dolby's financial results and provide our fiscal 2020 outlook, and Kevin will finish with a discussion of the business. So, with that, introduction behind us. I will now turn the call to Lewis.

Okay. Thank you, Jason and good afternoon everyone. As a reminder, we adopted ASC 606, the new revenue accounting standard at the beginning of this year and we used the full retrospective method and that required us to recast previous year's revenue. So, within our earnings release is a table that shows the FY 2018 quarterly revenue figures as adjusted under 606, and is the same table that we published last quarter. So, any prior year revenue numbers I refer to in my commentary are those recasted number under 606. So, let's go through the Q4 results. In the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019, total revenue was $299 million compared to $302 million in Q3 and $241 million in last year's Q4. Licensing revenue for the quarter was $265 million, while products and services revenue was $34 million, both of those were in line with the guidance that we gave at the beginning of the quarter. Here's my commentary by end markets. Broadcast represented about 44% of total licensing in the fourth quarter. Broadcast revenues were up about 14% year-over-year and that was driven by higher recoveries and on a sequential basis, however, Broadcast revenues were down about 12% as recoveries were lower than they were in Q3. Mobile devices represented approximately 17% of total licensing in the fourth quarter and Q4 is a difficult quarter to make a meaningful year-over-year comparisons in the mobile space because, the 606 recast caused last year's Q4 mobile to be about 1% of licensing, which is obviously not reflective of the organic business we have in that space. But I can say that Dolby technologies are more widely adopted into mobile devices now than they were a year ago and that's a key contributor to our growth in this space. On a sequential…

Thank you, Lewis and good afternoon everyone. Our financial results in 2019 cap off another solid year of financial performance for Dolby. Over the last three years, revenue has grown on average about 7% annually and our earnings per share has grown at an even higher rate. This is primarily driven by the progress we have made with Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos and Dolby Cinema. Today, I'd like to reflect on that progress and how it positions to continue to grow as we head into 2020. I'll also highlight how we are working to broaden the reach of our technologies to drive even higher growth in the future. Three years ago, the first Dolby Vision TVs and Dolby Atmos Sound bars were just coming to market, and the first Dolby Cinema sites were coming online. Today, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos experiences are accessible to hundreds of millions of consumers globally across a broad range of content, services, devices, and cinema locations. One of the highlights at the momentum this year is Apple's adoption of the combined Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos experience. With the release of iOS 13 and macOS Catalina, iPhone, iPad and MacBook products now support both Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos for the first time. Apple TV plus launched this month and all Apple original content is in Dolby Vision with those titles also in Dolby Atmos. The world of streaming services continues to expand and the availability of the Dolby experience is expanding along with it. Disney launched Disney plus this week, supporting Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos across their library of content, including the first seven Star Wars films which are now available in the combined format. Also most of their original content including The Mandalorian is available in Dolby. In India, Eros Now…

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Ralph Schackart with William Blair.

Good afternoon. Kevin, a couple of questions just on some of the longer term commentary of accelerating growth. I understand that you have the Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision come together. But can you just give us a sense of when you talk about accelerating growth, what's the timeline on that? Would that be something that potentially could occur as you exit this fiscal year? And then maybe a follow-up is, I know you switched to 606 and I guess previous fiscal year, but how comparable is 2020 to 2019 given the switch just trying to get a sense of how is this a true growth rate here or if there is any accounting treatment there and I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Sure. So, I'll take the first one, I might have Lewis give some color on the -- our first true comparison here. So, Ralph, yes, so thank you for acknowledging that we have -- we are really proud of the momentum we built up with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos, and that's what gotten -- has allowed us to get to this mid to high single-digit growth rate and we see a lot of opportunities ahead. And what I laid out in the script today are some of the areas where we see opportunity to accelerate that growth rate further. And I guess the short answer to your question is we -- I do believe that those could be -- I think you asked whether we could hit that exiting the year. I believe it could. It's difficult for us to predict these inflection points. It has been difficult in the past, but we know where the opportunities are and we know what it takes to go after them, and that is to continue to increase the amount of available content that increases the proposition for why people would want to include us on more devices. You look at the progress we've made just recently, where are you now can enjoy Apple TV plus, Disney plus, College Football on Saturday Night, all of these are more reasons to want the Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos experience. Those are the things that are going to drive us toward that inflection point and we are just heads down working to get there as fast as we possibly can. And as I said, I'm very excited about new context for Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos and with Music this quarter, we think that's the beginnings of something which can open up devices for us that we haven't had the opportunity to play in recently. Lewis, do you want to talk about the 606, 605?

Yes, we really haven't spent much time in the company at 606, so it is nice to touch on the topic that didn't take any effort. Yes, I think Ralph, just to clarify on your question, fiscal 2019 was -- the year we just completed was the first year that we truly operated and reported under 606. We recasted 2018 and 2017 so that it could be a comparison point. So, that means that I believe fiscal 2020 the guidance we're giving versus fiscal 2019 is a fair comparison, both not only accounted for under 606, but sort of think of it as the company operating under 606 as opposed to backwards applying new rules.

Okay. I know you can't go back in time, kind of, readjust to get a different prior year comparison. But let me ask just a different question. In Q1, just the guide, I think it was lower than expected at least relative to The Street. I know timing could be a factor and sometimes it's tough to line up your quarters. But anything you'd call out in Q1 on the topline specifically?

Yes, those things are not lost on us. We did look at sort of the pattern of the year by quarter that was out there, let's say on published on consensus versus ours and the first thing I'd point out is our Q1 2019 to Q1 2020 pattern isn't actually that different than the 2018 to 2019 pattern. I think you know the FY 2020 consensus number where probably set of numbers that had to make a lot of broad assumptions as Lewis speak -- hard to speak to a number we weren't responsible for. I don't think there's anything particularly corky other than the shape of our revenue will show probably a bigger spike in Q2 that maybe some of that was expected in Q1, but there is nothing in particular about the way we run our business that's driving anything differently. Also last year in FY 2019 under 606 in Q1, we did have some extra revenue that came from hybrid deals in the Dolby Cinema space, which was sort of lumpy because, those are not the larger part of our business there and we actually didn't have any more of those as the year progressed. And so that also creates a little bit of a hitch in terms of the comparisons. So, if you isolate for that, that's also causing some of the noise. But other than that I think when we look at the whole year, I think right now our whole year guidance is a range of $1,300 million to $1,350 million with a midpoint of $1,325 million or $1,325 million. And that's not that far off from where The Street was and a lot of that differences will be landing in Q1 and for the rest of the year and totality that sort of lines up. And in terms of our new seasonality, I think even last year, we are signaling that Q2 is not an uncommon quarter for us to see a little bit of a surge in revenue, just from the pattern of our activities and the way our customer activities work.

Great. And then sometimes I know from time-to-time you will talk about the growth in new products. Can you give us a sense of that for 2020? And I'll turn it over to other questions. Thank you.

Sure. So, you remember that we came into the year having done about $100 million between our consumer imaging initiatives, Dolby Cinema and Dolby Voice, saying that we felt we could grow that is at least 65% again in 2019. We had couple of benefit of our few one-off items, but excluding those, we came in just above that right around $170 million. Going forward, I think we've come to the conclusion that Dolby Vision and Dolby Cinema really aren't that new anymore and so we're going to begin talking about those growth opportunities in the context of each of our markets and then as I further laid out today.

Okay. Thanks, Kevin. Thanks. Lewis.

And next will be Steven Frankel with Dougherty.

Hi. Just to follow-up on Ralph's question, let me just understand the guidance. So, the fact that at the midpoint, Q1 revenues down about 6% is more a reflection of how we should think about seasonality and not some headwinds that you're seeing earlier in the year that you expect to work through and to hit the full year number?

Yes.

Okay. And how big were those hybrid deals? So, let's kind of zone in on that and how much was that last year?

Sure. Let me try to surround that. Last year in Q1, we actually exceeded our revenue projected in that quarter probably in the neighborhood of off top of my head, $7 million to $10 million and we indicated at that time that a lot of that was driven by some of these hybrid deals. You may remember these at the time, Kevin and I clarified that our core business really is a revenue-sharing business, but in some instances where for financial reasons or currency reasons or whatever, there the hybrid deals can be a more applicable approach, we had that in Q1 and we didn't really have that much volumes out for the remainder of the year. So, that gives you a sense of the scale of the last year and we're not projecting that scale to happen again this year in Q1.

Okay. So, we are going to stick with your belief that this is a mid to high single-digit growth business with the potential to layer on some new initiatives to try to drive that harder.

Yes, and I mean, we -- it's I would say it's easier for us to form our guidance on an annual basis, then a quarterly basis. It's important to do it on a quarterly basis. But Steve, when we look at our current position within each of our major areas of technology and the wins we have in-house, that's what's giving us confidence in that continued growth. And beyond that, as I said, we look for opportunities where we can hit an inflection point. We've got a seasoned executive here who has been through many of these cycles, who likes to point out to me that we know when we've hit an inflection point six months after we've hit it and there is some truth in that in that we just have to -- if we -- when we keep our head down and we keep expanding content and we kept getting more devices and we keep creating desire for these Dolby experiences, we have opportunities even higher rates of growth than the ones that we are -- that we can see in front of us. And beyond that, we continue to be very excited about the pipeline of innovation we have in the future.

Thank you for calling out the Dolby Vision number at this year's holiday. What was that a year ago -- the TV penetration sorry?

So, the number I cited today is 10% of 4K TVs and according to our data 4K TVs are -- that was 4K TV shipments during the year. And according to our data, 4K TV shipments were about 50% of the total TV market. I don't know if I have the percent number for you, but I did mention in the call, Steve, that we've been doubling our shipments about every year. The denominator has been harder for us to get a handle on, but now that we're at a certain size we can -- we're comfortable saying -- seeing that we're 10% of 4K TVs. If you remember, I'd once gone down a path of percentage of premium 4K TVs and I didn't set myself up for a repeatable statistic, because the bar on premium, it turns out, it's not a uniform one. So, we're on 10% of 4K TVs and we've been doubling unit shipments every year since we launched it in 2016.

Okay. And just a quick update. Two questions, one on Dolby Cinema and one on the Wider Cinema products business. In terms of Dolby Cinema, where is the backlog today?

So, we said on the call, we have 240 installed and we're at about 200 in backlog and as Lewis said we feel like we're in a good position to increase the screen count about the same pace we did last year. I would say that if you look at our wins over 2019, we entered quite a few new markets and we feel like each of those could represent the beginnings of -- place to grow further. But we have some good wins in the U.K., Germany, Japan, and recently we signed Russia are all new markets for us. And I'm sorry what was the second part?

Hey Steve.

Yes, go ahead.

I know the supply is going to be -- question it comes out anyway, but people have been asking all, what's the size of Dolby Cinema. I think my overarching comment would be that typically when we look in the past that chunks of revenue that we started talking about separately, they usually have to get to either like 10% or $100 million in revenue and right now our Dolby Cinema revenues are still below 5%, but at least that give you some sense and it's growing. And as Kevin just said, a second ago, the number of screens we're adding per year has now stabilized at a pace of -- so it looks fairly similar, but will give you some sense for the size of Dolby center revenues as it is today. As we go forward, we will look for more opportunities to try to break that out, but right now it's still sub 5%.

And you're still satisfied with the unit economics and would you say that they are improving as it matures, kind of, what's the same-store sales look like in Dolby Cinema. If that's something we can talk about.

Well, in our most -- our largest market, of course, is the U.S. market where we have about between 130 and 140 of those screens. And we are -- collective of all of our data; we are the highest performing format as judged by Box Office per screen. So, all the unit economics have been positive and we feel really good about that. I think for a lot of these other markets; it might be early for me to draw any broad generalizations as we grow the screen count.

Okay. And then just to circle back to the traditional Cinema products business and the issues you brought up, I think it was last quarter about softer demand, what's happened in that last quarter?

I think it's stabilized. This quarter we hit our target and guidance on cinema products. The guidance we give, we always try to make sure we are realistic about that. And you can see in my prepared comments, Steve, I indicated that we're currently modeling roughly flat sales year-on-year. We do have backlog, we do track what's going on. So, I think the hit that we took in Q3 and then I adjusted the guidance for Q4, we try to reset to what the current environment is as opposed to 5,000 cuts.

Okay. And then the last one. Any update on velocity of Dolby Voice, now that you've really focused in on that huddle room market. Has that been successful?

We -- Dolby Voice grew this year, didn't grow as much as we had -- would've liked. Coming into the year you got to remember, we were focused on, we just added BlueJeans, a major hotel room partner, about partway through the year actually most of the end of the year we also introduced with them a room-as-a-service model. This is -- so we're going from a CapEx purchase model which is still an option to their customers are able to avail themselves of the complete Dolby experience through a subscription. That's a much more natural with the purchase cycle. That was really -- we saw increased volume in the fourth quarter of the year and that was the first full quarter with that model. We added LogMeIn during the fourth quarter and they also have that model. Now, of course, that would be less revenue upfront, but a nice recurring revenue stream over time. So, we're still focused on the hotel room model and in particular, with this ability to offer a way of purchasing the experience that I think is much more natural in this market.

Okay, great. Thank you, Kevin.

And our next question will come from Eric Wold with B. Riley.

Thank you. Couple of questions. I guess one just following up on the last one, around the cinema market. I guess it sounds like you're anticipating the competitive environment you saw that drove the hit in Q3 in the lower guide in Q4 continues into 2020. I guess, first, is that fair. And then two, in your guidance for product and services for the year, is Dolby Cinema growing offset by traditional cinema products or both growing?

Hey, Eric, this is Lewis, just to be clear. The guidance I gave about cinema products being flat is specifically just the product revenue for cinema products. We do anticipate a Dolby Cinema; the initiatives we refer to Dolby Cinema will grow in FY 2020.

Okay. And then going back to the question on the Q1 timing. Not to beat that -- I guess you called out that marketing spend being more front-weighted. I guess one, what is that spending going toward in something new you haven't spent on before. And it's just the -- is the timing of the spend as that shifted at all versus prior years?

It's the timing that is shifting, yes. Look our marketing is driven toward a combination of industry events being where our partners and prospective partners are, and also engaging in creating an understanding and awareness when you have a Dolby of experience, you know you're having it, you know how great it is and leveraging partner marketing to tell that story and make sure that consumers are appreciating the partnership we have that results in these great experiences. And this year, we are going to concentrate more of those dollars in the front half of the year, and that's because that's when you've got the holiday season, you've got the award seasons, we think that's where the moments are that we want to be a part of it. And yes, so within the same overall budget as a percentage of revenue, we're going to weigh that more into the first half of the year, and yes, you'll see us try some new things with those dollars to make sure that the message is coming through and that people are aware of the -- where they can get Dolby experiences and create desire for them.

Perfect. And then Lewis, the higher cost of goods and licensing in Q4 was that due to the write-down of the products you're just continuing or what was causing that would not recur going forward and how much was kind of that incremental?

Yes. No, so the write-down of the products that we discontinued that shows up in product gross margin. The extra cost of sales and licensing with just some additional cost we incurred relative to some of our IP was a little bit of a spiky piece in Q4 that we don't anticipate to recur in future quarters at that level or anywhere near that level.

Great and then just a final one from me. You called out in the guidance that you expect lower recoveries this year for broadcast and other, can you give us a sense maybe of what I guess -- what's caused an expectation for lower recoveries and then kind of what's the delta between total recoveries in 2019 and what's assumed total recoveries in 2020?

Yes. As you can imagine, we try not to break our forecast down to that level. So, maybe I can answer the question directionally. In fiscal 2019 in total for the whole company, we did see recoveries rise. As we construct our forecast for FY 2020, we use models to try to anticipate what those might look like and currently our model anticipates that it will be lower partially because FY 2019 we were a little bit higher. Beyond that we tried to do the best we can to see what markets of land in and so I recognized when I gave guidance in Q1, as we progress through the year, I will give you guys updates on how that actually lands. But I thought at least give you some sense of this back and forth, some years it's higher, some years lower, and it just so happened in FY 2019 in total for the whole company. We did see higher recoveries.

Perfect. Thank you guys.

Yes.

And our next question comes from Paul Chung with JPMorgan.

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question. So, first off, can you just talk on kind of the puts and takes on your free cash flow which kind of looks like it's down about 20% for fiscal year 2019. It looks like you had a drag on some working cap and CapEx was a bit higher. So, if you could you expand on what's going on with your cash cycle days, how successes kind of impacted? And then as we look at to fiscal year 2020, should we expect a more kind of normalized conversion of your net income for free cash flow. Can you kind of hit north of $300 million, which looks like your pro forma net income will hit that amount? Thanks. And I've a follow-up.

Sure. The first thing I'll maybe clarify for the rest of -- whoever is listening in on the call is, I don't think that our cash flow from operations was down 20%, it may have been down $20 million. But if I look at it, I mean I don't have right in front of the cash flow statement is in the press release. So, yes, you alluded to in your question, but for the most part, our business is contained a function as a business, you've always known and love, which is at the high cash flow producing business, a high profit margin business and for the most part, these fluctuations that you see whether it be quarter-to-quarter or year-to-year are to some extent affected by things going on our balance sheet and as I've talked about during the course of FY 2019, some of these are related to 606, because remember, under 606, we are now required under this new accounting rules to effectively recognize some revenue a quarter sooner than we were. And that has affected my balance sheet. But I think as we move into FY 2020 those comparisons will now become a little bit more pure if you will, because FY 2019 was our first transition year where we started booking these estimated revenues each quarter, but understand that, that does not necessarily mean we can build the customer a quarter sooner. So, as we work our way through that I think our cash flows will start to normalize. For example, if I look narrowly at Q4 cash flow. Q4 cash flow that we just reported was $130 million from operations above net income. So, it's a good example of how we got a little bit of a positive boomerang but what was a lower number in Q3. So, I think as we move forward into FY 2020, we would expect to have our cash flow from operations and our free cash flows start to mimic what you were seeing before even under 605. No, no substantial change in terms or anything like that.

Got you. And then if I look at your guidance at the midpoint, it looks like your revenue and kind of your pro forma OpEx are on pace for kind of a similar growth of 6% to 7%, but I guess your gross margin lift from kind of higher licensing mix gives you some -- a little bit more flexibility to increase your spending, but it looks like your operating margins might be up modestly. Are you kind of comfortable with this pace of spending, and in order for us to really see more operating leverage in the model is it more about when your revenues kind of hit that double-digit mark? Thank you.

Sure. I'll start-off with sort of the numbers come in and I'll let Kevin finish off with any qualitative add, but we are once again for probably the fifth consecutive year providing guidance where we're growing revenue faster than OpEx. At the midpoint of our guidance, we're expecting revenue to grow in the neighborhood of 7%, and OpEx to grow in the neighborhood of 5.5%. So, within that context, Kevin, I have committed that we would at least maintain operating margins non-GAAP in the neighborhood of 31% and I think all of that is hanging together as a very sustainable and continuing business model going forward. In terms of leverage for more operating margin to some degree that is going to be helped or affected by the rate of revenue growth, as Kevin said a second ago, we do think there are opportunities for the revenue growth to be higher than that. But currently our guidance for the year is what we think will happen at our best guess what happens. So, I think the business model is very, very strong. We're talking about revenue growth, mid to high single-digits, OpEx growth below that, operating margins of 31% or better and EPS growth, higher than revenue growth. That is kind of the model that we're trying to run.

Thank you.

You are welcome.

And moving on to Jim Goss with Barrington Research.

Thanks. Couple of questions. First with Dolby Cinema, is the economic model across all of these markets, joint venture type model, revenue sharing model as I think it is in the United States?

The vast majority are pure revenue sharing, and as Lewis talked about a moment ago, we did have a few last year that fell under a larger upfront payment with a smaller revenue share and we expect we'll have those from time to time. It's mostly driven by the characteristics of the individual market and in particular, if it's depending on the -- whether there is financial risks or things where we want to move to that model, but the vast majority of the screens are and will continue to be in the full revenue share model.

And are those dollars usually in the licensing revenues or I think some of the theaters were you might sell some product that might be in the product area, so I'm just--

The revenues--

--your income statement.

So, revenue-sharing, revenues will be in licensing and where we do sell product will include that in products and services.

So, if you looked to across your income statement. And in terms of Dolby Atmos and Vision and Cinema, since they do get into various categories, what share of your total revenues do you think are affected by those services and technologies?

I don't think we -- yeah. I shouldn't say I don't think we don't break out Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos revenue as a separate item. I think Kevin mentioned in his prepared comments that Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos or the combined are a significant contributor to our growth rate, but we don't anticipate breaking out what you just asked Jim, which has a separate summation of revenue solely from just Vision and Atmos. So that goes into a lot of different devices, and as you already said, if I can go, Dolby Cinema is effectively a Dolby experience that combined Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos and as I indicated, our total Dolby Cinema revenues today are less than 5% of company's revenue, but growing.

Okay. Another category, I'm encouraged to see that music is being affected by your technologies. It seemed for a while that iTunes had recreated some momentum in music, but it dumbed down the audio quality. I'm wondering, so this is a good trend. Are there limiting factors to be able to take advantage of the qualities you bring to the table in your various music initiatives, because there always seems to be a limiting factor the least qualified part of the system will cause the system to -- the technology into our not come through as you had intend it to. And are there a number of things you have to do to really get it to where it will be fully appreciated and fully embraced.

Yes. Thanks Jim. The -- I mean, it looks a lot like the adoption cycle of any Dolby experience, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, Dolby Cinema and that starts with having the artistic community excited about the experience they can create. And I would say that on that score we feel really good about the early days of Dolby Atmos Music. The artists are very excited about it and today you can -- there's music from Lady Gaga or the weekend, Ariana Grande Post Malone, the list goes on. It's growing fast. And we consistently hear from artists that this is -- they think of this as a, it's a new way to experience their music. So, that's step one and we feel really good about that step, and we've been engaged in that part of the process for quite some time. So, we've made a lot of headway in terms of making the tools and plug-ins available to fit naturally within their workflow in their process. Then the second thing of course is getting distribution and getting -- and having the device playback capability. Unfortunately, we do have it installed base of Dolby Atmos devices in the world. We are really excited that we're able to launch with Amazon Music, and the streaming to their Echo Studio. So, that's where you can experience it today. We know that Amazon has said they intend to expand the availability -- the device footprint which can -- which Amazon Music can stream to and of course, we're focused on broadening it as far as we can through both in terms of distribution and device. So, it looks a lot like the cycles that we're used to, but we think we're off to a really strong start and as I said in the prepared remarks, one of the reasons we're excited about it is that it increases the value proposition for partners that are working with us today and consumers who have our devices today, ultimately and it also opens up the ability to sell into devices that are really music first devices. If you take the success we've had in the mobile space, for instance, and that is primarily at the high end, is primarily based on our proposition in movie and TV content. Music is a use case that we believe could have much broader appeal in the mobile space. It can have -- we think that it will be something that gives us a lot of opportunities in the smart speaker and home product space and in cars as well.

Okay, great. And last thing, you are a long lead-time type business in terms of creating a technology and get it in the market the way Dolby Atmos and Vision have developed over this past three years. Are there any new technologies now at the sort of stage that they were at three years ago. So, we'll be talking about in three years in the same way.

Where we feel great about our pipeline of innovation and some things you see coming to life today, some things I did mention in the call that Dolby Voice, which of course, I talked a moment ago about the progress and how we're doing in the hotel room space, but we're also beginning to see opportunities for that fundamental technology in other areas of our business and so we're excited about potential opportunities in, for instance, our PC market. Early days, but I think that that's something that sort of far along in the cycle. I think on another end of the scale, we are also looking -- I mentioned in the script, we're looking at ways that we can bring our decades of experience and innovation, our current innovation as well as our future innovation to all of the increasing ways in which we experience our audio-visual content. And one of the initiatives we have, which is it early stages, but is -- but it is in market is the -- we've made our technologies available in a way that developers can access them directly in particular for the communication space. So, we have a number of companies that are integrating the ability to have a communication directly into their inflow of their application or service. And so that's early days, but we think the very the notion, this is an interesting way for us to be able to make our technology and our experience in the form of documentation and now to videos to the all of the ways in which media is increasingly being employed today. So, early days, but it's something that we're excited about.

Okay. Thanks very much.

Thanks Jim.

Thank you. And that does conclude the question-and-answer session. I'll now turn the conference back over to you for any additional or closing remarks.

Great, well, thank you everybody for joining us today and we look forward to keeping you posted as we move into 2020. Thank you.

Thank you. That does conclude today's conference. We do thank you for your participation. Have a wonderful day.