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Dolby Laboratories, Inc. (DLB)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, May 2, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Dolby Laboratories conference call discussing fiscal second quarter results. [Operator Instructions]. Afterwards, you will be invited to participate in a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this call is being recorded Thursday, May 2, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Peter Goldmacher, Vice President of Investor Relations. Peter? Please go ahead.

Peter Goldmacher

Analyst

Good afternoon. Welcome to Dolby Laboratories Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on the call today are Dolby Laboratories CEO, Kevin Yeaman; and Dolby Laboratories CFO, Robert Park. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, including our fiscal 2024 3rd quarter and full year outlook and our assumptions underlying that outlook. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made today, including, among other things, the impact of macroeconomic events, supply chain issues, inflation rates, changes in consumer spending and geopolitical instability on our business. A discussion of these and additional risks and uncertainties can be found in the earnings press release that we issued today under the section captioned Forward-Looking Statements as well as in the Risk Factors section of our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q. Dolby assumes no obligation and does not intend to update any forward-looking statements made during this call as a result of new information or future events. During today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings press release and in the Interactive Analyst Center on the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Kevin.

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Thank you, Peter, and I want to thank everybody for joining us on the call today. Revenue for the quarter came in right about where we expected. Earnings came in better than we expected, and our guidance for the full year remains unchanged. Robert is going to share a few of the details with you for the second quarter, and he's also going to speak to third quarter guidance in just a few minutes. Today, I'd like to cover 3 topics. First, I'm going to make some comments on the macro environment. Second, I'll share some insights into our business. And third, I'll wrap up my portion of the call with some brief closing thoughts. So let me start with the macro. We haven't noticed any big changes, but it does remain a tough environment for many of our OEM partners. Following strong growth in fiscal '21 on the strength of pandemic purchasing, device sales have been down each year since, and the resulting declines in foundational revenue have overshadowed strong growth in Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision and our imaging patents. Now the upside of this dynamic is that when device sales recover, and we do expect device sales to recover, it will have a noticeable positive impact on revenue and margins. Our foundational technologies make up about 2/3 of our highly profitable licensing revenue and about 60% of our total revenue. The macro isn't having the same impact on Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision because growth is coming from getting our technology on more devices, which we are doing, especially in areas like auto. Sales cycles haven't changed noticeably engagement remains very strong, and the amount of content continues to grow, especially true in sports this quarter. Industry adoption as measured by growth in content created in Dolby Atmos…

Robert Park

Analyst

Thanks, Kevin, and thanks to everyone joining us on the call today. Before we review the quarter in some detail, I'd like to hit the highlights. First, revenues for Q2 were just above the midpoint of the range we laid out in the Q1 earnings call, and profitability also came in above the midpoint of the range. Second, while the environment remains uncertain and dynamic, our guidance for the year remains unchanged. And third, as I have said before, we feel good about our long-term growth prospects. Our value proposition remains strong and our financials are solid. Q2 revenue was $365 million, down 3% compared to the year ago quarter, but above the mid-quarter guidance we shared with you on the last earnings call. Licensing revenue of $338 million was down 4% year-over-year. Products and services revenue was $26 million, up 8% year-over-year. Our end market outlook for the full year is unchanged from last quarter's call. Detailed licensing performance by end market is on our IR website, but I'd like to point out some noteworthy details. As a reminder, timing of recoveries, the minimum volume commitments and true-ups can drive volatility between quarters. Mobile is the biggest standout in the quarter, growing 151% sequentially, primarily due to timing. And although we saw a nice snapback from mobile in the quarter, we still expect mobile to be down slightly for the full year. Similarly, you may notice that broadcast is down 18% year-over-year this quarter. This, again, is just about timing. As we have said before, we expect broadcast to be down slightly for the full year. We continue to expect solid growth in auto and a slight increase in PC. This increase will be offset by slight declines in broadcast, consumer electronics, mobile and to a lesser extent, gaming.…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of Steven Frankel with Rosenblatt.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

Kevin, you've made tremendous progress with content, as you outlined on the call. Given what you've heard from your partners at CES, how does that position you in terms of Atmos and Vision penetration in the 4K TV market when we get to holiday 2024 versus last year?

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Steve. Well, as we've said and as I think as you are pointing out, we do think sports is a really compelling use case that can really be a strong value proposition for driving adoption deeper into these lineups. And we're still seeing some carry-through of increased sales of Atmos and Vision TVs from some of the announcements we've made over the last year. Those things take a while to roll through the pipeline as older models stay in market and we've added quite a few regional providers over the last year. So we're very excited about that we're really beginning to see -- hit a new stride as it relates to sports content, and our partners see value in that. So we very much believe in the opportunity to expand the presence of Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision on TVs and around living room devices. This quarter very recently, VIZIO has begun shipping Dolby Atmos sound bars at $99. So that's -- so we're -- we think that we're doing a lot to reach the mainstream consumer.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

Great. And then the capital allocation question, pretty striking to me, given your cash generation capabilities, the cash on the balance sheet that the buyback pace was half of what it was a year ago. And now after several quarters of the share count kind of being flat, share count is growing again. Why not -- and the stock is kind of where it has been. So why not be more aggressive on the buyback?

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst

Yes. So well, first of all, I would say, as you know, we're committed to a minimum, offsetting any dilution from stock-based compensation. And so all else held equal, then we'll be looking to keep the share count flat. So if it's increasing quarter-to-quarter, that has to do with the timing and nuance of trying to get it just right. But also to your point, we have on occasion in the past done more, and we continue to evaluate that on a quarter-by-quarter basis. We've returned about $4 billion over the last 10 years, and so we do watch it closely and continue to evaluate it on a regular basis.

Steven Frankel

Analyst

Okay. And then what were true-up in the quarter?

Robert Park

Analyst

Steve, true-up in the quarter was negative $6 million, primarily in broadcast, consumer tectonics and gaming consoles offset by higher units of auto shipping with Dolby Atmos.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ralph Schackart with William Blair.

Ralph Schackart

Analyst · William Blair.

Kevin, it sounds like you have some good upbeat updates on Atmos and within the auto segment. Maybe just if you can give a little bit more color and kind of compare and contrast some of the activity in that space this quarter versus last with either conversations with potential future OEMs or maybe some perspective going forward about how that technology make its way to more mass market vehicles quicker, perhaps versus other technologies that you've seen in autos historically? Then I have a follow-up.

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst · William Blair.

Yes. Thanks for that, Ralph. We continue to be really excited about the momentum we have in music and in automotive. As I said on the call, we had Xiaomi launched its car with Dolby Atmos. It's had really strong demand. Hyundai began shipping Genesis in Korea. I also noted that we're seeing a higher aggregate volume of sales for the models that have been put into the market. I think I saw on the news this morning that Nio had a really good shipment quarter. And we're seeing more models from our current partners, specially Mercedes, Nio, Li Auto. So all of that is going really well. And the pipeline is robust. We have really good engagement across the automotive industry. And they are -- to the last part of your question, as you would expect, everybody is starting with their highest end models as it relates to the Dolby Atmos experience. But we believe and we believe that the music industry believes this is the way to experience music that we're going from stereo to a new, more immersive way to experience music, which is what gives us confidence that this will have mass market appeal. We want to get on every car. And you'll remember that at CES, we were demoing a 4-channel solution for a car, which is consistent with the cost footprint of mass market, and that was well received. So the pipeline is strong, and we continue to be really pleased about the progress we're making.

Ralph Schackart

Analyst · William Blair.

Great. And then just in terms of Dolby IO, I think historically, you've framed the opportunity and I'm not sure if the incremental use cases of low latency were sort of additive to that previous size. So maybe if you could just take a step back and sort of reframe the opportunity or remind me of that opportunity. That would be great.

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst · William Blair.

Yes. Thanks for that. So as you know, the majority of our revenue today comes from building ecosystems around content, distribution, device where our monetization comes from the device. And this is an opportunity to improve audiovisual experiences by working with service providers who are looking to bring real-time digital experiences that are more interactive, more personalized, really with the goal of increasing fan engagement. And you might remember that we had a shift in our approach coming into this fiscal year. We had a self-service model where we had -- we were working with hundreds of developers who are using a range of our capabilities. And where we saw demand where companies wanting to build these digital experiences at larger scale. And with particular immediate -- in the immediate term, you mentioned the ultra low-latency streaming, meaning hundreds of milliseconds. So you -- what that means experientially is that there's hardly any perceptual difference, you may not detect the difference between what streaming on the phone and watching something live, which opens up a lot of use cases. And so we said last quarter, we were pleased to have closed our first couple of 7-figure deals. This quarter, we had a number of 6-figure deals, which we believe we can grow into 7-figure deals. The pipeline is growing. We have -- in the most immediate term, we see a higher concentration in things like iGaming and sports betting, where the ultra low latency is a really strong use case. But in the pipeline, we're beginning to see the types of use cases diversify into more broad applications that are targeted at increasing engagement with audiences and fans.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Jim Goss with Barrington Research.

James Goss

Analyst · Barrington Research.

A couple of things. First, on televisions. Are you getting beyond that COVID bump in sales that might give you a chance to have maybe an acceleration in the TV sales that might help your service? And is there a possibility of getting some idea of the current Atmos penetration in broadcast as well as mobile?

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst · Barrington Research.

Yes. Thanks, Jim. So to your first question, I think what we're hearing and when I look at the earnings reports of our -- some of our large customers in that space, I think they're reporting that they view things as having stabilized. They're getting a little cautious optimism around parts of their business. Obviously still caution around the overall economy. So as I said, we're confident that device sales will return to growth. But as Robert said, we're not baking that into our guidance for the rest of this year. As it relates to Atmos, we have a strong adoption at the high end of TVs. We are increasing penetration at the small to mid-tier really just about Mir's Dolby Vision in that respect. And beyond that, a lot of excitement around speaker related devices. I mentioned earlier, VIZIO now coming to market with a $99 Dolby Atmos sound bar. In mobile, we have very good adoption of Dolby Atmos across Apple, of course, Samsung, we've been increasing our presence with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos with the high-end models of most Chinese phone manufacturers. And if you didn't catch it, one thing I said on the call is that as it relates to Dolby Atmos, Transsion, which is a Chinese company, and I understand most of their business is in Africa and then also Lava Mobile in India, both adopted Dolby Atmos. So that gives us some more traction at more affordable entry points.

James Goss

Analyst · Barrington Research.

Okay. And you had mentioned automotive or well, Atmos in automobiles with Xiaomi and Genesis. Are you -- of the opinion that rollout -- that acceleration of that rollout could be fairly quick? Or do you think it will take a number of years to really gain traction and move into those less expensive autos, as you mentioned, it was sports channel device.

Kevin Yeaman

Analyst · Barrington Research.

I think I want to say both in the sense that we're seeing high growth rates now of smaller numbers, and we expect that to continue and that it's going to continue to build. And I think every partner differs in terms of their strategy of how fast they're going to bring it to models. Mercedes has brought it to -- continues to roll out new models on a regular basis and how quickly, therefore we get to that mid-end. I think what's consistent is that any time we get a new partner, they're going to want to start with their high end. I think that's going to probably be pretty consistent. But we're really pleased with the engagement, the trajectory and the rollout so far.

James Goss

Analyst · Barrington Research.

Okay. Last thing. Gross margin on products and services was down and lower than I think I would have expected. Is there -- or what would be the reasoning behind that? And what should we expect over the next couple of quarters?

Robert Park

Analyst · Barrington Research.

Yes. The product and services gross margin can vary based on inventory reserves we take in any given quarter. But for the full year, we expect it to be a more normalized basis for our products and services gross margin, but it can vary quarter-to-quarter.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.