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Operator
Good day, and welcome to the DLocal Second Quarter 2023 Results. Please begin.
DLocal Limited (DLO)
Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 16, 2023
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Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the DLocal Second Quarter 2023 Results. Please begin.
Soledad Nager
Management
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the DLocal second quarter 2023 earnings call today. If you have not seen the earnings release, a copy is posted in the financial section of the investor relations website. On the call today, you have, Sebastian Kanovich, Chief Executive Officer; Sergio Fogel, Co-President and Chief Strategy Officer; Diego Cabrera Canay, Chief Financial Officer; Maria Oldham, SVP of Corporate Development, Investor relations, and Strategic Finance; and Soledad Nager, Head of Investor Relations. A slide presentation has been provided to accompany the prepared remarks. This event is being broadcast live via webcast and both the webcast and presentation may be accessed through DLocal's website at investor.dlocal.com. The recording will be made available shortly after the event is concluded. Before proceeding, let me mention that any forward-looking statements included in the presentation or mentioned in this conference call are based on currently available information and DLocal’s current assumptions, expectations, and projections about future events. While the company believes that our assumptions, expectations, and projections are reasonable given currently available information, you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on those forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those included in the DLocal’s presentation or discussed in this conference call for a variety of reasons, including those described in the forward-looking statements and risk factors section of DLocal’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are available on DLocal’s Investor Relations website. Now, I will turn the conference over to Sebastian Kanovich. Thank you.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining the call today. Before we start the call, let me thank all of you who joined the Investor Day back in June. For those who couldn't make it, the material, it's available on our Investor Relations website. Let me also add that we have in the call, Pedro Arnt, who will be joining me as Co-CEO. We are extremely excited to have Pedro joining the team. We are proud of the great talent that we have at DLocal, and bringing Pedro is the ultimate example of this. Pedro will bring new energy and leadership and a highly complementary set of skills to the company, helping us to continue scaling the business at pace and to realize the enormous opportunity that we have ahead of us. I would now like to invite Pedro to introduce himself.
Pedro Arnt
Management
Thanks, Seba, and greetings, everyone. We thought it'd be useful for me to introduce myself today and share with you what's led me to join Seba, Sergio, Jacobo, and the rest of the great team here at DLocal. They will then walk us through DLocal’s strong business performance as they expertly do every quarter. Having worked in Latin American tech over the last 25 years, I've obviously been aware of DLocal since its inception merely seven years ago. However, upon being approached by the Board and undertaking my diligence, what I found was a set of business success drivers even more remarkable than I had initially anticipated. I'd like to spell some of those out for you today. First of all, a vast untapped total addressable market of $1.4 trillion within the rapidly expanding markets that we currently serve. Second, an exceptional opportunity for growth alongside these markets as well as the potential to extend our reach to numerous additional markets. And this allows us to increase our TAM by over 2.5 times over the next five years. Third, the product and technology stack is fantastic as it serves many of the world's leading and most demanding mega-cap tech companies. And fourth, this is an entirely customer centric organization that's obsessively dedicated to our customer success and continues to pile up client win over client win, growing clients by 41% CAGR and TPV by a phenomenal 126% CAGR over the past three years. And last, but certainly equally important, an extremely attractive financial model characterized by a revenue CAGR of 101%, adjusted EBITDA over gross profit surpassing 70% and an annual conversion of free cash flow to net income exceeding 90%. So in essence, large TAM, great product and tech stack, a winning customer focused organization, and a free cash…
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Thank you, Pedro. And once again, welcome to the team. I am pleased to share that we've had another quarter of outstanding results. Our performance once again proves the instinctive strength of our business, which we continue to build focused on long-term profitable growth. These trends combine, one, superior technology that is driven by our commitment to make the complex simple for our merchants with our one API and one integration, what we call One DLocal. Two, a well-diversified business across verticals products and geographies, with vast geographic coverage of over 40 countries. And three, relentless execution of our merchants growth and cross sell strategy across products and geographies. Last but not least, our lean and disciplined culture. We deliver all the previous strengths with a lean team, continuously striving for excellence. Our culture is key to continue delivering on our long-term ambitions. These factors underpin our continued success in building the best payments ecosystem across emerging markets. Based on our One DLocal, navigating the complexity of payments in these markets on behalf of our merchants, so they can remain focused on their core business. We have a proven track record in leveraging these factors to deliver robust dollar growth of TPV, revenue, gross profit, adjusted EBITDA and net income. Moving to our financial highlights of the quarter. This success was reflected across all metrics. TPV grew 80% year-over-year, and a strong 22% quarter-over-quarter, surpassing for the first time the $4 billion mark. To put this in perspective, this quarterly TPV is more than double our TPV for the whole year of 2020. the year before we went public. We continue to focus on growing our business in absolute dollar terms. Revenue, gross profit and adjusted EBITDA, all increased at double digit rates, both year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter. We recorded the…
Maria Oldham
Management
Thank you, Seba. Hi, everyone. Let me remind you how we view our growth engine. We have three axis of growth, one, product, two, merchants, and three, geographies. On product, during this quarter, we continue to focus our efforts on deepening our presence in the countries in which we operate, with a particular focus on African and Asia, by establishing more direct connections with payment methods and acquirers and also continuing to enhance our solution. During the second quarter of 2023, we saw strong traction on our platform solution, in particular, from commerce marketplaces. On merchants, we delivered strong revenue growth, both from existing and new customers. Net retention rate continues to be best-in-class at a 148% in Q2 2023. New merchants revenue reached $11 million in Q2 2023. We have very close relationships with our merchants, which enables us to grow together with them. Our top 10 merchants continue to show very high growth, totaling $94 million revenue in the quarter. Our three axis of growth compound to deliver rapid growth. All of our merchants' products, payment methods and markets are linked to one API. This means that merchants can access all of our products and payment methods without any additional work, generating high value to our customers while growing our business. Now let's deep dive into one of the dimensions, geographies. In Latin America, where we have our largest scale, we continued to experience strong growth across the region in Q2 2023. This proves that we still have ample room for growth in LatAm, both with existing and new merchants. In the last 12 months through Q2 2023, revenues in Mexico increased by 85% year-on-year, and in Brazil by 50% year-on-year. Growth in both countries has been driven mostly by merchants from commerce, advertising, streaming, and ride hailing…
Sergio Fogel
Management
Thank you, Maria. Good morning, everyone. As you know, I have co-founded the company, and have been serving as a Board member. Since June this year, I have been part of the executive team. I am delighted to join this earnings call today and look forward to continuing meeting many of you. DLocal has been fully devoted to emerging markets since its inception. Where others see complexities, we see underserved markets with high growth potential. Buyers and sellers cannot transact due to the lack of infrastructure, and the magnitude of lost opportunities is overwhelming. We are going after a very large market, and after seven years of strong growth, we are still only scratching the surface of this opportunity. Our markets enjoy structural tailwinds, a young growing population, an urban connected middle class eager to consume, and merchants that are only starting to customize their products for their needs and tastes. Emerging markets are complex. Our mission is to solve payments complexities for our merchants, including, technological, operational, and regulatory complexities. Our ability to adapt to change in circumstances is one of our key operational strengths and underlines our value proposition of taking the complex and making it simple. Now, I'd like to update you on recent developments in three specific markets. One such change in market conditions occurred in Argentina, as we stated in the filing in late April. The government and the central bank established new procedures to obtain foreign currency for the settlement of certain services. We have been operating in Argentina for many years now, and we have seen many, many changes in regulations. This is only the latest change and will probably not be the last. We will adapt to the new rules just as we have adapted to the previous ones. Our ability to…
Diego Cabrera Canay
Management
Thank you, Sergio, and hi, everyone. We had another quarter of strong growth across our products and services. In terms of products, during Q2 2023, pay-ins increased by 70% year-over-year and by 27% quarter-over-quarter and pay-outs increased by 114% year-over-year and 10% quarter-over-quarter. The contribution from pay-outs has increased year-over-year, as we have been successful in providing last mile payment services to financial services companies in emerging markets. Moreover, we continue to position ourselves as the payment service provider of choice in emerging markets for global payroll, social media, ride hailing, and on-demand delivery companies. During this quarter, we also saw strong traction both in pay-ins and pay-outs through our platform solution for marketplaces, particularly in e-commerce in Brazil and Mexico. In terms of services, our cross border and local-to-local volumes show solid growth year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter. In Q2 2023, we increased by 33% our local-to-local volume quarter-over-quarter, mainly driven by merchants from commerce, advertising, and ride hailing verticals. This resulted in growth in our local-to-local share reaching 49% in Q2 2023. We are product and vertical agnostic. All our products and services bring incremental profit and when we combine them, they bring synergies both for our merchants and for us. Depending on which merchants we onboard in a given quarter, as well as the relative growth rates of each merchant, there are many fluctuations in the share of pay-ins versus pay-outs and cross border versus local-to-local. Overall, we see a positive growth outlook across all our products and services and see the diversification as a key strength. Revenues also reached a record high of $161 million in Q2 2023, growing 59% year-over-year and 17% quarter-over-quarter. During this quarter, we saw strong quarter-over-quarter revenue growth, particularly in online commerce, ride hailing and on-demand delivery. And from a geographical standpoint, revenue…
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Thanks, Diego. We are very proud of the strong set of results we delivered during the first half of the year and we are even more excited about the runway ahead of us. We see continuous growth of our business in the second half of the year. Given the outstanding first six months performance, we would be on track to over-deliver on our guidance of revenue, while being in line on EBITDA. However, due to the currency depreciation in Nigeria, which will reduce revenues with neutral impact on gross profit, in other words, it won't affect our gross profit dollar amount, we expect to end the year in line with guidance in terms of both revenue and EBITDA. Revenues between $620 million and $640 million, and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $200 million to $220 million. We have a truly diversified business that can deliver on our goals under changing specific circumstances in certain markets and we are very, very pleased to be in such a position. We remain dedicated to building the best financial infrastructure for global merchants in emerging markets. The value proposition of our One DLocal platform is clear to help our merchants navigate local complexities in receiving and sending payments in emerging markets. Everything that we do is focused on further improving this value proposition. I want to send a big thank you to our global team, our customers and our investors for their continued support. I'll now hand back to the operator to open up for the Q&A, which Pedro will also be joining.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Tito Labarta with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Tito Labarta
Analyst
Hi, good morning. Thank you for the call and taking my questions. Congratulations on the strong results and strong hire from -- Pedro, congratulations on new role. A couple of questions, if I may. Maybe Pedro, if I could start with you, thanks for some of the comments you gave on the opportunities you see in joining DLocal but we’ve gotten several questions and we'd love to hear from you -- coming from MELI, very well-respected company. Just to understand a little bit the sort of reasoning to come over to DLocal? I mean you talked a little bit about the opportunity coming here at Co-CEO role, but would just love to hear a little bit more from a personal perspective. What excited you so much to make that switch? So would love to hear from you on that. And then second question on the revenues, very strong performance on revenues, Seb, as you mentioned, you're maintaining the guidance there. But like to get a little bit more color. Do you think Brazil can continue to grow the way we saw it growing this quarter? And is that coming from like one particular merchant? Is it several merchants that are giving a lot of local-to-local volumes there? And do you expect some headwinds because of the depreciation in Argentina next quarter as well? Just to understand a little bit some of the revenue dynamics and how it’s going to evolve on a full-year basis from here? Thank you.
Pedro Arnt
Management
Hi, Tito. Hi, everyone. It’s great to be here. Thanks for the question. I think I laid it out in the prepared remarks. This is a phenomenal business with a large expanding TAM, great technology and product, the right customer focus and a winning sales organization and a super attractive financial model. So DLocal is a gem. What I've done and what I've seen over the last 24 years is how to build scale. And I think I've seen scale in Latin American tech like few others have had because I've had the privilege to work at the largest Latin American tech company from nearly zero to where it is today. And I've seen how the way you generate value in technology is by building scale and compounding results over the long term. And I think DLocal is the ideal landing spot for the next channel -- next leg in my professional career to be able to generate scale and compound results over a long time with a business that operates in a growing TAM and has a phenomenal financial model. So this is a decision that makes extreme sense for me. And I think I can add a lot of value to the great work that's being done here at DLocal.
Tito Labarta
Analyst
Thanks. Pedro.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Tito. Thanks, Pedro, and Tito, thanks for your question. So there's a lot to unpack there. Please let me know if we are covering everything. On the guidance question -- I'm sorry, in the guidance question, so we are very proud of the first half results. We are clearly trading towards the higher end of that guidance in terms of revenue, but are clearly preferring to take a conservative approach given the macro environment. Specific changes of circumstances such as the devaluation of Nigeria affect our revenue number, but not our gross profit. We would like to see one more quarter before we update our yearly guidance out of abundance of customers. Tito, you know this, we have constantly overdelivered on all metrics to which we have guided since we went public over two years ago. And the other thing I'll say is that the guidance -- the yearly guidance we provided accounts for close to 50% year-on-year growth at best-in-class margin. And this is a great outcome for our 2023 and a testament again of the resilience and the well diversified that our business is. The other thing we'll say is that we do reiterate our midterm guidance of 35% CAGR at a gross profit level and a gross profit to EBITDA margin of 75%, which again are best-in-class. Giving it a little bit more of qualitative comment, Tito, Brazil was great news. We grew over 100% year-over-year, 80% quarter-over-quarter but also Mexico grew at close to 80% year-over-year. And I call those two geographies out because they are some of our most mature and I think the underlying message here is that our geographies continue to compound and they continue to differentiate and they continue to drive growth for our merchants. We're going to have quarters where one…
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Guilherme Grespan with JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Operator, I'm not sure if it's me, but I'm not listening. [Indiscernible] Thank you. Can we move to the next question please?
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America. Your line is open. Jason Kupferberg, your line is open.
Jason Kupferberg
Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is open. Jason Kupferberg, your line is open.
Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking the question. I just wanted to start on the new management arrangement. Just maybe if Seb and Pedro, maybe just want to comment a little bit on how do you foresee kind of splitting day-to-day duties going forward, especially once Pedro has the opportunity to ramp up on the business?
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Hi, Jason, sure. Pedro, feel free to complement this. So Jason, first of all, Pedro and me have extremely complementary backgrounds. Ours is an opportunity that has plenty, plenty of challenges that we need to tackle. And whenever you have the ability of finding a talent like Pedro and getting him to join, it's an absolute no-brainer for us. We are still in the workings of the exact path that each one of us is going to be undertaking. But fundamentally, from a trend perspective, we are very, very complementary, and this couldn't be better news for us.
Jason Kupferberg
Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is open. Jason Kupferberg, your line is open.
Okay. And then my second question was just on -- you had that helpful slide showing the bridge on the gross margins. Just as you think about the second half and recognizing there's obviously unpredictability from a mix perspective, I mean what sort of a -- kind of a base case working assumption that you guys are thinking about for second half gross margins just in the context of the fact that you're obviously reiterating the guide on adjusted EBITDA for the year? Thanks.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
I know, Pedro, you have some remarks that you were making and they were quite short, and then if you want to go for that?
Pedro Arnt
Management
No, no. I was just reiterating. I think we'll figure out the governance throughout my process. I've obviously done diligence and the chemistry we built not only with Seba, but with the entire team gives me confidence that there's plenty of work to be done here and our complementarity, I think, will make that even easier. So I'm not concerned at all about that.
Diego Cabrera Canay
Management
Jason, on your question on guidance, again, we are known to be a very conservative company in this front. We are taking an extremely conservative approach given the market environment. We are clearly trading towards the higher end of that revenue guidance that we provided. We don't provide shorter-term guidance. And I want to emphasize that we are building this for the long run. We believe 50% -- over 50% year-on-year growth. And again, the midterm guidance of 35% CAGR, it's best-in-class. And that's what they're focusing on. We want to retain flexibility to continue to invest in the opportunity we have. This is the time for us to differentiate. The emerging markets opportunity is bigger than ever, and we want to retain the flexibility to invest as much as we see fit while maintaining the disciplined approach we've always had.
Sergio Fogel
Management
If I may, if you look at gross margin and take rate in the second quarter, it was very similar to the first quarter, 1% decrease in gross margin from 25% to 24%, 0.1% decrease in the CAGR, that was part of your question. It's basically the result of business mix. As you see in this quarter, we had higher share of local-to-local. And we have different country mix, particularly some countries which contributed to higher share of gross margin. We don't solve for that. As we mentioned, our merchant decides when and how to grow. So the behavior of those measures in the second half [indiscernible].
Jason Kupferberg
Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is open. Jason Kupferberg, your line is open.
Okay. Thank you for the comments.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Guilherme Grespan with JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Guilherme Grespan
Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Hello, can you hear me?
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Yes, we do.
Guilherme Grespan
Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Yes. Thank you, Seba, and the team for the presentation. Two questions on my side. The first one is related to Nigeria. You mentioned that you expect some impact from the [deval] (ph), I think it was 40% to 50% deval on the FX, and we already see it hitting the revenues declined the share of Nigeria on total top-line. But it was interesting to hear that you do not expect any impact into gross profit. So I'm trying to reconcile those two statements. The only way I can think of is that your gross profit margin in Nigeria is close to zero. And I do want to confirm if we operate in the country with very little margins, and the second one is related to financial income. It was a very large contribution from gross financial income in the quarter. I imagine this is related to Argentinian bonds. If you can recap how much those bonds are paying. And if we had any non-recurring financial gains, meaning the depreciation of the bond in the quarter of if this level of $19 million gross income per quarter should be the new recurring level given now you're invested in those bonds? Thanks.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Guilherme, thank you very much for the question. So we've spoken about Nigeria in the past. Actually, in our Q1 call, we called this out, how Nigeria had a higher than average -- a much higher than average gross take rate and much, much worse margin structure given the gap between the market rate and the official rate. That was a drag on our margin structure, and that's why you saw it eroding. We broke that down in previous quarters. What has happened is that the Nigerian government has unified those two markets, and therefore, the gap that was existing before between market rates and official rates, doesn't exist anymore. We never process payments in any country at zero margin. That's not the business variant. Every dollar we process contributes to our profit. What we said is that at a gross profit level, which is the key metric we keep track of internally, this will be neutral if not positive. Let me explain why. The gap in the FX in Nigeria made it very hard for merchants to understand why there was an official market rate and there was the market rate and why they had to navigate a lot of that complexity, some of that complexity is now sold. So for our global merchants, it's now easier to navigate this country, and we expect that to be one, neutral to positive from a gross profit standpoint, but two, obviously accretive to our margin structure. We spoke about our margin being punished before, given our Nigeria business. Now we probably get some upside from it. Maria, feel free complement on this point, please.
Pedro Arnt
Management
Yeah, the only thing I would add is that not only it's not zero, it's actually profitability higher than average net margin rates in the country.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Guilherme, on your second question on the financial profile, Maria, do you want to take it?
Diego Cabrera Canay
Management
So, sure. We had in the quarter roughly $7.4 million of financial profits that is basically the result of higher -- or having higher amounts of cash in local markets, in countries like Brazil or Argentina, as you mentioned. Part is the bond. As you mentioned, like roughly $2 million, $3 million is results of the bond, but mostly in money markets and interest bearing accounts that we have in those countries that generate cash. We use part of those process -- profits to invest in hedges to be fully covered, and that is the cost -- the financial cost that you see in the P&L. The net of those two has been very positive in the quarter. Over the medium term, that should sequentially go back to a lower number. But particularly this quarter, we had these situations where we have a significant amount of cash invested, also at the operating company level with higher interest rates.
Guilherme Grespan
Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Just a follow-up if I may, how much those bonds, Argentinian bonds are paying?
Diego Cabrera Canay
Management
So they are mark-to-market. The interest rate -- the nominal interest rate on the bond is minimal at 0.4% because they are dollar linked but it's mainly the result of the mark-to-market of that bond. But again, out of the financial income of the quarter, only a small portion of that is the bond. Most of the financial income is a result of cash held in money markets are interest-bearing accounts, I would say in Brazil, Argentina and at the operating company level.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Guilherme, I would like to complement on the Nigeria question just to make sure this is clear. When there's a devaluation, two things happened, our gross take rate goes down, but our cost of processing goes down. So that's why you see this being neutral at a gross profit level. Our cost of expatriation will decline heavily in the same amount as our gross revenue will decline because those are a function of the spread between the official market rate and the market risk. So that's why you see this being echoed. I hope that's clear. I know it's complex, but I want to make sure this is properly understood.
Guilherme Grespan
Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Yeah, sure. It was clear. Thank you for the answers.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Appreciate it.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is open.
Ashwin Shirvaikar
Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.
Hi, can you hear me?
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Yes.
Ashwin Shirvaikar
Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.
Good to hear from you all, perhaps. Maybe I can also start with congratulations to Pedro and also question for you. the local issue has never really been growth, which you mentioned, what -- one of the key reasons you're coming is the growth in TAM opportunity. I feel like, the issue, as you had mentioned, is scalability over time, scalability of technology where you can bring your expertise, governance and a few other things. So maybe you can talk a little bit more about the challenges that you feel like they need to be overcome. And, if in your early view, based on just the diligence you did, if you feel like the investments that need to be made might be an impact on the longer-term margin structure. I know it's very, very early days, but just based on the diligence that you've done so far.
Pedro Arnt
Management
Thank you. That's a fantastic question. So conceptually, first of all, and I think this is important. Like any company that's grown as much and as fast as DLocal has, there are growing pains in scaling up. I think that's evident, and I agree with your diagnostic. There's already prior to my arrival, a lot of focus as with any company that's growing and work being done to strengthen whatever is needed to strengthen and to prepare for scale. But that is a big part of what I've liked about the challenge is I feel that, that's what I've done and what I like doing and what I know how to do. So we really need to set this up so that this company can grow 5x, 10x, 50x, once the opportunity arises. It's a bit early. I think I will get back to you guys with a better diagnostic. I am not a big believer in throwing money at these kinds of problems. I think we throw a passion for problem solving and systems at these problems, but I still need to complete my diagnostic. This is literally day two for me. So stay tuned, and I think we'll come back to you guys with clarity on whether this is a matter of simply continuing to build everything that's being built or if there might be a ramp-up in investments needed. Give me a little more time, give Seba, Jacob, and myself some time to take a look at this.
Ashwin Shirvaikar
Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.
I truly appreciate that answer. Seba, maybe something we have discussed before sort of on an in-country basis, the objective perhaps of achieving reasonable balance between pay-ins and pay-outs. As you look at your forward opportunity the next five, six countries that you feel should ramp up, how do you feel you're situated as far as that in-country balance is concerned?
Pedro Arnt
Management
Sorry, just one thing I wanted to add, that is relevant. If the challenge to scale is investing a little margin, and I'm not saying that's the case, we've reiterated our midterm guidance. But if that's the challenge, then this is a company with best-in-class margin structure, and there's room to do so. So I really think it's a double positive here.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Thank you, Pedro. Ashwin, on your question on pay-ins and pay-outs. So we like both products that are extremely complementary, but we never have an internal target for one versus the other. It's not us that decide what product we are selling. It's our customers that decide what products they want to buy from us. We always built our operations on a completely stand-alone basis. And let me explain it. We never subsidize pay-ins with pay-outs. We never do -- every dollar in our platform is processed at a profit, independently of it being pay-in or payout. So we do see a significant traction for both products, but that's never an internal objective. What we'll see over time in the newer countries is that sometimes one product ramps up faster than the other and then over time, things balance out. But we never set a restriction in terms of how much growth. In other words, if we can grow extremely fast our pay-ins product and our pay-outs product will be a little bit lower, that's perfectly okay for us. Over time we know those things do balance out. But even if they don't, we are still okay in the long run.
Ashwin Shirvaikar
Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.
Understood.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Is that clear?
Ashwin Shirvaikar
Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.
Yeah, yeah, understood. Thanks.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Jitender Singh with HSBC. Your line is open. Jitender Singh with HSBC. Your line is open.
Neha Agarwala
Analyst · HSBC. Your line is open. Jitender Singh with HSBC. Your line is open.
Hi. This is Neha Agarwala with HSBC. I guess I used the long link. Firstly, I'd like to welcome Pedro. Very nice to have you here at DLocal. My question during this quarter is related to the revenues in Brazil, which saw a big jump quarter-on-quarter. I believe this is driven by stronger volumes in Brazil which led to stronger revenues. So if you could just elaborate on that and give any color what drove that? Also, the TPV growth this quarter was almost 22% quarter-on-quarter, which is significantly higher than an average of about 10%, 12%, that we've seen in the previous quarters. So I believe we should expect this to normalize in the coming quarters and see a more normal level of sequential TPV evolution? Thank you so much.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Hi, Neha. How are you? Good morning. Thanks for the questions. So yes, our TPV grew in Brazil and therefore, our revenues grew. What I'll say is that we spoke about this in the past. We have a great solution in Brazil. The Brazilian market is massive. There's a huge sum for us to go after. And this quarter, it was just a testament of those trends that we were expecting in -- that we spoke about in previous quarters. I think this should also be a lesson from what is -- how is it that our business works. We offer [40] (ph) geographies. Those geographies compound and help us win in different places at constant times. So the fact that we won in Brazil during this last quarter, it's not just a testament of our Brazil solution. It's a testament of the overall platform. This wasn't a Brazil win. This was a DLocal win that manifested during this quarter in Brazil and in Mexico. Last quarter, it was in Nigeria. So we expect growth to continue in this market. What rate? Again, we reiterated our guidance on how we see growth going forward. But I want to emphasize the point that our business is better understood at a global level, at a macro level and not at a geography by geography basis. Geography by geography basis, our merchant base decisions that we will always be happy to accommodate for, what we are keeping track of it, how do we make sure we land and expand with our customers? How do we make sure we solve more pain points? How do we make sure we are offering more products because that's where the real value is.
Neha Agarwala
Analyst · HSBC. Your line is open. Jitender Singh with HSBC. Your line is open.
And regarding the sequential growth in TPV.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Neha, we are seeing our business firing at all cylinders. We spoke in the past about our pipeline being healthier than ever. I continue -- we continue to see a very, very strong pipeline. Anecdotally, during this quarter, we -- during this quarter without an impact yet in the current results, we were able to sign two of the top 10 global merchants. So there's plenty of growth to come. Again, we don't always control the sequence at what that growth happens. That's why our focus on the mid to long term, it's -- into doing our business. But we continue to see great logo wins. We continue to see a great pipeline and a great opportunity generation. We need to continue to build the product and make sure we are best-in-class across all 40 emerging markets that we are.
Neha Agarwala
Analyst · HSBC. Your line is open. Jitender Singh with HSBC. Your line is open.
Great. Thank you so much, Seba, and thank you so much, entire DLocal team. Congratulations.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Jamie Friedman with Equity Research. Your line is open.
Jamie Friedman
Analyst · Equity Research. Your line is open.
Hi, good morning. And, let me echo the congratulations Pedro. So my first one is for Pedro. I was just wondering, and it may be early, but a question that investors ask a lot is with regard to the DLocal compliance and I was wondering, since you incubated a great payments company as well in Mercado Pago, what's your perspective on the compliance infrastructure at DLO? That's one question. I'll just ask my second one as well. Sergio, we appreciated your comments about Argentina, and this is part of a continuum. But I was wondering, at a very high level, is this the same, worse, better in terms of regulatory scrutiny at Argentina now than what you have seen in the past? So the first one is for Pedro, the second one for Sergio. Thank you.
Pedro Arnt
Management
Hi, Jamie, and thanks, Neha. Thanks also, before I had answered you. So again, guys, this is day one. But obviously, that's an area that I've done as much diligence as possible throughout our conversations. And I think what's important to understand is that the reason we add so much value to our customers is that we tackle complex markets, markets that operate very differently. I think my running joke yesterday with the press was if all of the emerging markets were Switzerland, then we wouldn't generate the kind of margins, take rates and value that we add. And so I see a compliance team and a compliance organization that is compliant. This is a publicly traded company in the US and as such, needs to be compliant. We will face local challenges regardless of how much infrastructure, processes and systems we continue to build. So that's part of our value. I don't think it's something that concerns me, and it's something that -- and I want to stress here, we'll continue to be built out. The impression here should not be that this hasn't been built out. This hasn't been done. There's a great team here led by great people. And my job is to continue to make sure that we invest and we strengthen across all of our internal functions.
Sergio Fogel
Management
I will take the second question. Well, the situation in Argentina right now is, as you may know from the news, it's extremely volatile and there have been changes in the last -- actually in the last couple of days, almost every day, there is a change in regulation. We are big believers in the country in the long term. Right now, all -- we as the rest of the market is in a wait-and-see mode to see how this is going to evolve and what's going to happen with the election. All I can say is that we have been in the country for a long time now. We are particularly flexible. We know the market very well. We are [segment ratios] (ph) applied to us to the rest of the market. And we believe that we have the best knowledge and flexibility in the market, and we will use our unique position to gain advantage.
Jamie Friedman
Analyst · Equity Research. Your line is open.
Thank you, both.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt Coad with Autonomous Research. Your line is open.
Matt Coad
Analyst · Autonomous Research. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to just ask a couple more on Argentina. Based on the press release and your opening statement, it seems like the investigation there is going well. Just hoping you could double-click on that. And then interested in how the incremental hiring in Argentina could impact your margins over the long term? And then last one, and this kind of might be a similar answer to the one you guys just gave, but if we do see dollarization ultimately in Argentina, how does that impact your business?
Diego Cabrera Canay
Management
Okay. I will take it. So about the investigation, we shared -- we share -- a lot of have been shared on the [six case] (ph) and we will do that if there is any material information. About the hiring, we are growing our payroll. We just decided that the growth is going to come more from Argentina than before. It is a place where we find a very good talent and we have completely prioritized Argentina over other countries. Right now, we have over 150 FTEs and again, as you know, hiring takes time until you find the right talent and onboarding, et cetera. But we are on track to increasing our workforce there. We don't see it impacting the P&L. Again, you can find a very good talent. In the short term, it's a bit cheaper than other parts of the world. But in the mid to long term, we expect it to convert to international or to emerging market prices. And regarding dollarization, I don't know if it's going to happen, it's very hard to speculate on that. If it were to happen, of course, it would make our life much easier in terms of processing cross-border payments, so we would welcome that.
Matt Coad
Analyst · Autonomous Research. Your line is open.
Thank you. Super helpful. And then I just had like one quick follow-up. The tax rate was a bit higher this quarter at 16%, 11% last quarter and you noted like the mix to local-to-local and more financial income driving that. Could you provide any guidance for like how we should think about modeling the tax rate going forward?
Diego Cabrera Canay
Management
So again, it will be the result of the mix of profits we have in the different countries that we operate. There are very different tax rates within the different jurisdictions. And as you know, we currently have operations in 40 countries, another five countries we have holding at a operating company level. So it is really complex to provide a specific number. As long as we continue having a higher local-to-local profit as we did this quarter, and we also have financial income, particularly in countries like Brazil and Argentina, that would trigger higher income tax rate because those countries did carry -- have a tax rate of 30-plus-percent. So as long as that situation continues, we expect to have similar tax rate as what you have seen in Q2. But again, we don't guide for that because it will be basically the outcome of the changes in mix by country and the different type of transactions that we eventually have.
Matt Coad
Analyst · Autonomous Research. Your line is open.
Awesome. Thanks, guys.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Kaio Prato with UBS. Your line is open. Kaio Prato with UBS. Your line is open.
Kaio Prato
Analyst · UBS. Your line is open. Kaio Prato with UBS. Your line is open.
Hey, hello, everyone. Hi, Seba and team. Thank you very much for the opportunity, and welcome, Pedro. I have two quick questions on my side, please. The first is following the management change, just would like to have your view about the strategy going forward if there will be any change given the recent movements or if there is any other initiatives beyond payments and your current products that you could pursue in the medium term, and if so, if you can give us an example would be really helpful, please. And the second one, if I may, is just another quick follow-up in Argentina. I'm not sure if I completely understood, but I think in one of your answers, you mentioned that you do not expect any impact from the additional deval in the peso as you reprice your clients, otherwise, you will have a negative input, is that right? Just would like to confirm. And if so, have you already repriced your client this week after the devaluation or not? That’s it. Thank you.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Pedro, I'll take the second part and let you take the first one, which is the fastest. It's not that we reprice, Kaio, it's that our merchants reprice. So they reprice our services and therefore, we are indexed to their dollar amounts and as such, our own revenues reprice. It's not that we increase our take rate. It's not our merchants have higher amounts or charge higher amounts, and therefore, we are, the fact, repricing ourselves.
Pedro Arnt
Management
So I learned a long time ago, you don't fix something that isn't broken. Look at the first half that we've just delivered. Our Brazilian business, our largest business, grew revenues nearly doubled year-on-year. Our newer markets, which are a huge opportunity, Africa and Asia, I think, grew over two times, nearly 2.5 times. We've had some one-offs. We had a devaluation in Nigeria and the currencies in Argentina. But if I look at the long-term prospects for this business, that's a big reason why I'm here, this does not need a change in strategy at all.
Kaio Prato
Analyst · UBS. Your line is open. Kaio Prato with UBS. Your line is open.
Okay. Thank you. But just wondering if you could pursue any other opportunity beyond payments or no, if not the strategy?
Pedro Arnt
Management
The addressable market, the global reach of this company presents significant opportunities for us. So again, reiterate the local strategy is clear. The vision is clear. It's incredibly compelling. And what we need to do is execute on behalf of our global merchants behind their needs in fintech and emerging markets.
Kaio Prato
Analyst · UBS. Your line is open. Kaio Prato with UBS. Your line is open.
Okay. Thank you very much, Pedro and Seba.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. That's all the time we have for questions. I'd like to turn the call back over to Seb for closing remarks.
Sebastian Kanovich
Management
Pedro, I think closing remarks are yours today.
Pedro Arnt
Management
Yep. Thanks for that, Seba. So first of all, thank you, everyone. Just to reiterate how excited I am to be here and the opportunity. And I do want to leave everyone with a final thought. Companies tend to get lost if they start placing excessive focus on the short term. And so we want to continue to reiterate and reemphasize to everyone that we're building this business for the long term. And that's where we're making our decisions. I'm convinced that, that is how value is created in technology as I said earlier, when you compound the kind of results we're delivering over longer periods of time. So our job as leaders of this organization is to find the best way for DLocal to be able to compound those results over a long period of time. That's why you see us investing in geographies, in product and systems. We're super, super excited about this opportunity. We have a huge market to attack globally to turn to a multi-billion dollar revenue business over the coming years, and that's where our focus is. I look forward to updating everyone on our progress on that journey over the course of the next few quarters. And thank you very much.
Operator
Operator
Thank you for your participation. This does conclude the program, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.