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Dolphin Entertainment, Inc. (DLPN)

Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Mar 25, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Dolphin Entertainment's Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, James Carbonara from Hayden IR. James, you may begin.

James Carbonara

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during the course of this conference call, management may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and involves risks and uncertainties that could differ materially from actual results. Please refer to the forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release published today as well as the most recent SEC filings and reports. During the call today, management will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA or loss. The company believes that these will provide helpful information for investors. Reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are provided in the earnings release. Now I would like to turn the call over to Bill O'Dowd, Chief Executive Officer of Dolphin. Bill, please proceed.

William O'Dowd

Analyst

Thanks, James, and welcome, everyone. As usual, I'll start by reviewing key financial and operating highlights from our fourth quarter, and then Mirta will provide a more detailed financial overview before we open it up for Q&A. Well, 2025 marked the next stage of evolution for Dolphin. We uplisted to NASDAQ in 2017 with an investment thesis based upon an acquisition strategy. And for the next 8 years, we executed on that strategy by acquiring industry-leading companies across multiple entertainment marketing verticals. We have been extremely busy acquiring these businesses, integrating their teams and building the infrastructure to support a much larger organization. This past year, the first without a major acquisition, that work started paying off in a meaningful way, and I believe it offers a glimpse into our future, a future we find very exciting. Let me start with the headline numbers because they tell a compelling story. Full year revenue grew approximately 10% to $56.7 million. Fourth quarter revenue was $15.6 million, up 27% year-over-year. That kind of quarterly acceleration heading into the new year is significant. It was also entirely organic. We had the same companies in Q4 of 2024 that we had in Q4 of 2025, and our revenue was up 27% year-over-year. But what I really want to focus your attention on today is profitability and cash flow because that is where the Dolphin story gets very interesting. Full year adjusted EBITDA reached $2.9 million, which is up over 200% from $900,000 in 2024. To more than triple your adjusted EBITDA on 10% revenue growth also tells you something important about the operating leverage embedded in this business. We have built a platform that can grow the top line and convert an outsized portion of each incremental dollar of revenue into profit. The fourth…

Mirta Negrini

Analyst

Thank you, Bill, and good afternoon. I will walk through our full year 2025 financial results and recent highlights. Total revenue for the year ended December 31, 2025, was $56.7 million, an increase of 10% from $51.7 million in the prior year. Operating loss was $39,058 for the year ended December 31, 2025, compared to an operating loss of $10.5 million for the year ended December 31, 2024. Operating expenses for the year 2025 were $56.7 million, including noncash expenses of $2.4 million from depreciation and amortization. This compares to operating expenses of $62.2 million in 2024, including depreciation and amortization of $2.4 million and nonrecurring or noncash expenses of $8 million, consisting of a $6.7 million goodwill impairment and $1.3 million write-off of notes receivable. Net loss for 2025 was approximately $3.1 million, including noncash expenses of approximately $2.4 million from depreciation and amortization and nonrecurring net expenses of $0.5 million related to the acquisition costs, debt extinguishment costs and a gain on the sale of a subsidiary. This compares to a net loss of $12.6 million in 2024, including depreciation and amortization of $2.4 million and nonrecurring and noncash expenses of approximately $8 million, primarily consisting of a $6.7 million goodwill impairment and a $1.3 million write-off of notes receivable. Basic and diluted loss per share for the year 2025 was $0.27 based on 11,558,485 weighted average shares compared to basic and diluted loss per share in 2024 of $1.22 based on 10,306,904 weighted average shares outstanding. Adjusted EBITDA for full year 2025 was $2.9 million compared to $0.9 million in 2024. Adjusted EBITDA for Q4 2025 was $1.7 million compared to adjusted EBITDA loss of $0.5 million in Q4 2024. With that, I'll now turn it back to the operator to open the floor for questions. Operator, would you please poll for questions?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the first question today is coming from Derek Greenberg from Maxim Group.

Derek Greenberg

Analyst

Congrats on the quarter. I wanted to ask about just the DealMaker partnership you had outlined. I was wondering if you could touch a little bit more in terms of the revenue opportunities from that. You had mentioned marketing and equity, but I was wondering maybe if you could get a little more granular in terms of how that's tied directly to deal flow and how those opportunities will be sourced just the inbound, outbound process?

William O'Dowd

Analyst

Sure. And thanks, Derek. Yes, we're pretty happy with Q4, as you can imagine, right? DealMaker, yes. Well, first, a couple of pieces of context. DealMaker represents to us a partner that allows us to scale a massive opportunity in our business, which is to launch consumer products with our own clients, whether individuals or companies or to attract new clients because we have the ability to partner with DealMaker and raise the capital to launch new products. The ecosystem of capital fundraising for raises under $5 million is very small. Many investment banks or funds won't fund in amounts of $0.5 million, $1 million, $2 million, yet those are the exact amounts that it usually takes to launch a liquor brand, a cosmetics brand or oftentimes consumer products and other verticals. To have a partner like a DealMaker that could help us raise that money for our clients and then be able to do the follow-on raises and participate in raises that in success, those brands need another $2 million to $5 million 12 to 18 months later and then another $5 million to $10 million 12 to 18 months after that, it was very exciting for us. In these raises, we would get a marketing fee for promoting the product, of course, during the fundraising process. And what we're also doing is we're building the strength of our clients and our future clients because we would obviously only look to do partnerships wherein our group was marketing that brand. And part of the use of proceeds of the fundraise could be for the marketing campaigns that we're creating the strategy for and then would be asked to execute upon. So I would imagine that in most cases, those marketing campaigns would be in the 6 figures per year per brand. We would certainly expect that. In terms of deal flow in, the reception in traditional Hollywood to the fact that Dolphin has now partnered with the leading online community fundraising platform has been very welcoming. I've done 3 or 4 meetings with our most traditional talent agency partner. I have a call later tonight on a potential brand that would like to use this service with a well-known influencer fronting it. So we expect a very strong and robust pipeline from our friends in the community, the Hollywood community, but we have our own clients and brands that we work with also that could benefit from this service. So the deal flow should not be a problem for us. Was that helpful?

Derek Greenberg

Analyst

Yes, that's very helpful. I guess just one more on that. Generally, what do you expect the length of deals to be? And who's typically the investors that are buying these deals?

William O'Dowd

Analyst

Sure. Well, I'll use a Reg CF offering. And I realize that today's earnings call is probably the most business school speak earnings call we've ever done, right? But many people are probably familiar with Reg CF and Reg A, their regulations that came into effect with the Jobs Act, maybe 15 years ago or so. Reg CF allows you to raise up to $5 million per raise every 12 months with one company or brand. And typically, we look at taking 6 to 8 weeks of preproduction, as we would call it, in the movie business, but assembling the paperwork and filing since these are registered securities offerings. So let's say, 2 months of prework. And then once the raise goes live online, we would look to complete the raise in full within 4 months typically. DealMaker's averages that, if not a little less. And their success rate is off the charts. I believe in the last few years, it's been over -- well over 90% of all raises started have been completed successfully, which is just unheard of, right? In that world, the how do I say the typical investment size is probably $1,000 to $2,000. You're building an online community, 2,000 people invest $2,000 each and you just raised $4 million. So that's why the marketing of the offering is so important, both the performance ad marketing capabilities of DealMaker with their own in-house agency and then combine it with the earned media, the PR and the influencer marketing of Dolphin, and you have a pretty compelling case for creating awareness of the fundraise.

Derek Greenberg

Analyst

Got it. That's very helpful. And then on a related note, just your venture portfolio. I was wondering if you had any timing on your end in terms of when you think to add additional ventures, if there's a target for the year and as well as if there's just any potential monetization events on the horizon as well?

William O'Dowd

Analyst

Sure. Well, I mean, obviously, the DealMaker strategic partnership allows us to go faster and broader with potential venture opportunities once we ramp it up. So we're about a month into the partnership. We had given ourselves a 60-day window to go through all the different processes together and then start vetting the first most promising deals that come in through our pipeline. So we would expect to do that vetting by somewhere -- start the process, I should say, somewhere in the second half of April, maybe near the month -- the end of the month of April. And DealMaker has an internal scoring metric. Dolphin has our own process of evaluating these opportunities. And I would hope to be in market with the first one this summer. And instead of doing 1 to 2 in a 12-month period, I think it will be 2 to 3, we would hope, if not more. But as we ramp it up, I think we'll get faster and stronger in subsequent years because we'll have gone through the process together. And in terms of which types of products, we're certainly looking at traditional verticals that entertainers typically have fronted over time. So obviously, liquids in general, we have a couple of those in the pipeline, and that may be liquor, it may not, right? Again, I've definitely talked extensively about our desire to have skin care and cosmetics. And then really beyond that, it ties into categories where you traditionally see especially influencers and influencers of scale, people with followings of 5 million, 10 million, 15 million can play in areas from suntan lotion to wellness products would be another category to, I guess, even sports adjacent consumer products. Those would be areas that we would focus on. Athletes are certainly an area that we would focus on as well.

Derek Greenberg

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then turning to the other new department of the business, the AI and Intelligence segment you've laid out. Could you maybe just talk a bit about how you expect that to contribute to growth and just the opportunity you see with current customers?

William O'Dowd

Analyst

Sure. Yes, we see that as additive, as I was trying to indicate in the prepared remarks, our existing clients, we expect will have an interest in receiving the services of Mark's division, starting with doing an audit of how they show up now in generative AI searches and also an audit of how they're seen by the large language models or not seen. It's a very simple test, and it's pretty powerful in the room with a CMO or a brand marketing team to just simply enter into ChatGPT or into Claude or whichever engine you want to use. What do you think of brand X, Y, Z or I'm shopping for a tomato sauce. What are the -- what are your 3 favorite ones, right? What are the 3 best tomato sauces out there, et cetera, and just see where the brand comes up. Since consumer behavior has started to shift and actually ask those types of questions at the moment of purchase in the grocery store and in front of the aisle and not just entering the search, but maybe taking a picture of the offerings on the shelves and entering that same question into a search engine, I think most of the brands we've spoken to understand the incredible importance of strategizing their generative AI approach to the market. And that idea of going to the existing clients with that capability and just becoming even more of a trusted partner to them. And then secondly, quite frankly, just like DealMaker, Dolphin Intelligence is a business development tool for us. We can approach people that we would like to be in business with and talk about not just the incredible earned media powerhouse that's been built with SureFire, with the door, with 42West with special projects and what the group can do and that cross-selling is obviously working given our numbers, right? But now we can add on capabilities that in the case of Dolphin Intelligence, very few marketing companies have and certainly in the earned media space. And then in the case of DealMaker, I'm unaware of any marketing company that's got a strategic partnership like what we have with DealMaker. And so we believe that those will be real differentiating factors as we go attract new, bigger customers as well and with bigger budgets.

Derek Greenberg

Analyst

Okay. Got it. That's really interesting. One more, just on the Youngblood, you talked about the biggest opportunity is up ahead with selling the streaming rights. I was wondering how that process is going and potential time line or expectations relative to box office performance?

William O'Dowd

Analyst

Yes. On independent movies like this, much like with our Blue Angels, typically, your streaming sale is larger than your box office and sometimes 2 or 3 times larger. In Blue Angels case, it was 5 times larger. I don't know what it will be with Youngblood. We'll find out. We've presented the film to all the major streaming services through our distribution partner, Well Go. And in addition to the streaming sale, we have a second window, as we call it, even before the streaming sale, which is what we call electronic sell-through or pay-per-view. So when you go on to Amazon or Apple or wherever and you can rent or buy the film a few weeks or months before it hits a streaming service. That's what we mean by that window. That window is opening up here at the end of the month of March. So we'll have a better indication by the time we get to our Q1 earnings call in the middle of May, how that window did and then where we stand with the streaming sale. That's what we've modeled for this film was higher revenue in those 2 categories on a what we call a programmer like this. This is a very popular genre, very commercial type of property, a hockey movie, right, sports movie in general.

Derek Greenberg

Analyst

Okay. That makes sense. Last question, just overall performance this year, double-digit organic growth. Do you think that level is sustainable going forward?

William O'Dowd

Analyst

From your mouth to God’'s ears, Derek. We're certainly going to get -- try as hard as we can. I do believe we're going to grow every year just organically like this. I'm very pleased with last year. Obviously, we surged in the fourth quarter more than even projected. 27% year-over-year revenue growth is incredible for a company like ours. But what I think we were indicating in the prepared remarks that I feel strongly about is that we do anticipate that if we're with each incremental dollar of revenue, we would believe that much of it will fall to the bottom line. And therefore, our margin expansion will continue to grow as well. We hit 5% last year, which is fantastic, again, coming from years of acquisition and building a group that would eventually earn enough to overcome the cost of being public, which is where we passed and now 5% margin, we're striving for 6%, 7%, 8%, 9%, 10%, right, and keep growing our margin expansion. So as the revenue grows, whether it stays in 27%, we'll find out, right? But it should -- any incremental revenue growth should have an outsized importance on the margin expansion. And ultimately, we think we're going to be judged by our profitability and our free cash flow. So you combine that margin expansion with the cash flow catalysts that we outlined as well, a reduction in lease expenses in both New York and L.A. We'll have offices in New York and L.A., but they certainly won't be as expensive as the rents that were predate COVID. And then, of course, just simply the free cash flow we're going to save or generate, excuse me, from paying off our term loan with the bank. Obviously, we'll save the cash of the principal, but we'll also have the profit enhancement by not paying the interest on that loan. So we're excited about those. And what we're always on the horizon, that horizon has just gotten a lot closer, Derek, right? We're in March of '26. Our New York lease is up in December. Our L.A. lease is up in November of '27, and our bank loan matures September of '28. So it's like 3 dominoes in 3 straight years. And the end of those dominoes is only 2.5 years away. So we're pretty confident that we're going to have a pretty good cash flow engine that's already started in the fourth quarter and all of '25 really, but we'll continue to accelerate because of those cash catalysts as well.

Operator

Operator

There were no other questions in queue at this time. I will now hand the call back to Bill O'Dowd for closing remarks.

William O'Dowd

Analyst

Well, thank you. And it's always nice to do the annual earnings call with good news like this. Also, it gave me a chance to dust off my ability to speak business school and going through things like adjusted EBITDA margin expansion, free cash flow catalysts. But we are proud to present these results. They're the work and the hard work of 7 operating subsidiaries that performed very well last year. The credit goes to them and our outstanding leadership like Marilyn Laverty, like Lois O'Neill, like Charlie Dougiello, like Amanda Lundberg, like Nicole Vecchiarelli, like Andrea Oliveri, like Emerson Davis, like Sarah Boyd, like Ali Grant, like Kirsten Weinberg, like Danielle Finck, like Silvie Snow. And if we're lucky enough to have as strong a year in '26, growing as fast as we did last year, then we're going to be pretty blessed. And in addition to that organic growth, obviously, I wanted to share why we feel the strategic partnership with DealMaker is in its own right, a vehicle and a catalyst for Dolphin to realize its true potential because it allows us to have an approach to capital raising that will allow us to achieve the vision of building this group in the first place, which was for us to be able to take ownership stakes in some of the assets that we're marketing. And we're very excited about that partnership. Rebecca Kacaba is a true leader in that field. And if you're ever going to do community fundraising through Regulation CF or Regulation A, I would love to know what is more understandable by the general public market than the consumer product category and especially if it's led with either an entertainment property or an entertainment individual. So we think we're extremely well positioned strategically for that partnership to be very successful. So thank you for your time. I appreciate it. It's a quick turn. We'll be speaking again in 6 weeks in May about our Q1, and I look forward to it. So thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.