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Q4 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 2, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Q4 2021 Amdocs Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, Mr. Matthew Smith, Head of Investor Relations for Amdocs. Mr. Smith, you may now begin.

Matthew Smith

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Before we begin, I would like to point out that during this call, we will discuss certain financial information that is not prepared in accordance with GAAP. The company’s management uses this information in its internal analysis in order to exclude the effect of acquisitions and other significant items that may have a disproportionate effect in a particular period. Accordingly, management believes that isolating the effects of such events enables management and investors to consistently analyze the critical components and results of operations of the company’s business and to have a meaningful comparison to prior periods. For more information regarding our use of non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations of these measures, we refer you to today’s earnings release, which will also be finished with the SEC on Form 6-K. Also, this call includes information that constitutes forward-looking statements. Although we believe the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, we can give no assurance that our expectations will be obtained or that any deviations will not be material. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause future results to differ from those anticipated. These risks include, but are not limited to the effects of general economic conditions, the duration and severity of COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on the global economy and such other risks as discussed in our earnings release today and at greater length in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including in our Annual Report on Form 20-F for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2020, filed on December 14, 2020, and our Form 6-K furnished for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 on February 16, 2021 and for the second quarter of fiscal 2021 on May 24, 2021 and for the third quarter of fiscal 2021 on August 16, 2021. Amdocs may elect to update these forward-looking statements at some point in the future. However, the company specifically disclaims any obligation to do so. Participating on the call with me today are Shuky Sheffer, President and Chief Executive Officer of Amdocs Management Limited; Tamar Rapaport-Dagim, Joint Chief Financial and Operating Officer. To support our earnings call today and in the future, we are providing a presentation, which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website. And as always, a copy of today’s prepared remarks will also be posted immediately following the conclusion of this call. On today’s agenda, Shuky will provide an update on our recent strategic process – progress and business performance. And Tamar will review our financial results and outlook for fiscal year 2022. And finally, we invite you to join us for our fiscal 2022 Analyst and Investor Business Update, which will be a virtual event webcast live on Friday, November 5 at 9:30 Eastern Time. Please visit the Investor Relations section of our website for more information. And with that, I’ll turn it over to Shuky.

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

Thanks, Matt, and good afternoon to everyone joining us on the call today. As Matt mentioned, today, we are growing – today and going forward, we are providing an earnings presentation alongside our remarks. We hope you find this additional information helpful in understanding our company as investment opportunity. I will start today’s call by recapping our business and financial achievements for the full fiscal year 2021. Second, I will add it to you on the main pillar of strategic growth framework and the significant progress we’ve made with key items from the past quarter. Finally, I will wrap up by summarizing our expectation for another year of accelerated growth in fiscal 2022. After which, Tamar will provide the detail on our financial performance and outlook as well as perspective on the overall environment 12-month backlog in capital deployment. As a reminder, our comments today will refer to certain financial metrics on a pro forma basis where applicable to provide you with a sense of the underlying business trends, excluding the financial impact of the open market, which we divested on December 31, 2020. I’m on Slide 7. Let me begin by saying that could not be prouder of our achievement in fiscal 2021. This was a pivotal year in which we began to see the results of our strategy to drive accelerated revenue growth and much credit belongs to a global base of talented employees and experienced leadership team. Operating highly model amid the global pandemic, our people execute exceptionally well this year to meet the mission-critical requirements of our customers. And it is so while embracing our culture of continuous learning and upside. I’m also proud we constantly found ways to demonstrate our corporate purpose and values, such as by providing support for the communities in which we…

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Thank you, Shuky, and hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us. As a reminder, my comments today will refer to certain financial metrics on a pro forma basis, which excludes the financial impact of open market, which we divested on December 31, 2020. Turning to Slide 13. I would like to echo Shuky’s comments that we are very proud of our financial performance for the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2021. Let me start with our fiscal fourth quarter performance. Record Q4 revenue of $1.09 billion was up 10.2% year-over-year on a pro forma constant currency basis and was led by our best-ever quarter in North America. Revenue was above the midpoint of guidance despite an unfavorable impact from foreign currency fluctuations of $5 million relative to guidance. Moving down the income statement. Our Q4 non-GAAP operating margin of 17.5% was in line with the high end of our long-term target range and improved by 30 basis points from a year ago. As accelerated R&D investments were more than offset by a focus on operational excellence and a divestiture of open markets. On the bottom line, diluted non-GAAP EPS was $1.16 in Q4, which was consistent with the midpoint of our guidance range. As we have said in the past, our non-GAAP effective tax rate may fluctuate throughout the course of the fiscal year. In the fourth fiscal quarter, our non-GAAP effective tax rate was 20.2%, above the high end of our annual target range of 13% to 17%, but consistent with our expectations. For the full fiscal year 2021, we reported an effective tax rate of 15.4%, which was within our annual target range. Diluted GAAP EPS was $0.97 for the fourth fiscal quarter above the midpoint of the guidance range of $0.91 to $0.99. Summarizing fiscal year 2021,…

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

Thank you, Tamar. Before we go to Q&A, let me take a moment to say that I’m excited to invite you all to join us for the virtual business update this coming Friday, which we are hosting to provide investors and analysts with an appreciation of the strong foundation we have built over the past several years and have positioned Amdocs for continued success in an increasingly digital world. We look forward to discussing Amdocs strategy and our unique competitive advantage that will support accelerated growth and the continued success into the future. With that, we are happy to take your questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Jackson Ader of JPM. Your line is open.

Jackson Ader

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my questions guys.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Hi, Jackson.

Jackson Ader

Analyst

First one, any additional comments you can provide on the either adjusted or reported cash flow? And just given the kind of the strength in revenue combined with maybe cash flow performance double-clicking on that would be great?

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Sure. So, as we’ve always said, the business model we have is robust in its ability to generate first of all, healthy earnings, but then convert over time, earnings to cash roughly on par. And starting this year, we did expect that to be a stronger year. And if you recall, we started the year and then we raised the numbers twice. It started with a very strong first quarter where part of the story there was the signing of a multiyear strategic deal with T-Mobile that also contributed to monetization and some upfront payments as part of this signed deal. And then during the year, we continue to see a record high from quarter-to-quarter and definitely for the year as all in terms of the number of deployments, we achieve for our customers that translates into achieving many invoicing milestones and, in turn, of course, turning that invoices into collection in the bank. So, I’m pleased to say that it’s a result of a lot of focus that we have although many years on the cycle we call deal to cash. That has to do with many things we do as a company and very strong execution and deliverables to our customers.

Jackson Ader

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then maybe, Shuky, as we think about the very largest customers that you have, right, the kind of – very large carriers in telecom. How should we expect maybe growth from those customers and specifically North America should look like in fiscal 2022 maybe relative to either the rest of the world or some of your customers that are just a little bit smaller?

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

As I said, we said in the prepared remarks, we see growth in all geographies. Obviously, the size of the customer of North America, if T-Mobile and AT&T, these guys are, as we mentioned before, are in the mids or the beginning of investment cycle, definitely the numbers here can be more, but I think some of the deals that we’ve signed across the world in 3UK, in other large operators in Europe in Vodafone and others are not that far, but we are pleased to see the megatrends that we discussed, which are on the 5G journey to the cloud, the utilization is pretty similar across the world, and you see very great momentum, which is reflected also another very strong backlog quarter increase in backlog. So, I think definitely, because of the size of the operator in North America, which are probably the biggest in the world. The projects are bigger, but we see a lot of big projects around the world.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Maybe just to add color, if you look on the $100 million sequential improvement in 12 months backlog in Q4, it’s pretty much in line with the split of revenue we see within – between North America and internationally. So it’s broad-based. It’s healthy. Naturally, as Shuky said, very happy to see that all over the place and not concentrated just in one region.

Jackson Ader

Analyst

Yes. Okay, great. Make sense. Thank you very much.

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tom Roderick of Stifel. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi it’s Max [indiscernible] on for Tom. I just want to start, I guess, by getting back on the cash flow, thinking about how strong they have been in going forward the forecast for next year? Can you just talk a little bit more about the kind of steep decline given the guide for full year 2022?

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Could you just repeat the last sentence?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So the decline going, yes for the projected $500 million?

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

So unfortunately, I have not found yet the patent to convert over time, more cash than earnings. And seriously, I think that over time, you should expect us to convert at par, meaning 100%. Now, we had a very strong year and very happy about that with 40% conversion rate.

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

We always said it’s not sustainable.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Yes, but we always say it’s not sustainable to be in that performance. I think that 100% conversion rate we are projecting for 2022, while being at the highest growth rate, I can remember for over a decade, while continuing to protect margins, while continuing to deliver double-digit earnings per share growth. I think this is a very balanced package in terms of how we: a, continue to invest in growth. I mentioned continuing to investment R&D, et cetera, while obviously protecting the margins and continuing to see that growth acceleration.

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

But I agree with Tamar, we did not find the magic to convert more cash than earnings. And this really was an exceptional year from this prospect.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. And then speaking of growth, Shuky, talking about the strategic domain and those growth pillars of 5G and digital and cloud, et cetera. Do you see like in the current environment that enough carriers are embracing those to generate that 3.7% to 7.7% revenue growth for next year? Or do more of these carriers need to embrace the movement and get on board to kind of reach that goal?

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

I think that what’s nice about these megatrends that I don’t think there is some type of discretion. Every customer of Amdocs in the world in order to be successful in this new era, has to transition to 5G, has to be digital and have to do to go to the cloud. So this is – and by the way, we see that all the budgets of our customers are actually funneled to these domains because they are key critical factors to their success in the future. And by the way, this is broadly. This is not just – it’s true that the U.S. is a little bit ahead for 5G deployment comparing U.S. is following and APAC following is a very close followers so, but we see this aggressive across the world. And second, this is not like a one-off year. These megatrends are used to say for several years because it will take a lot of time until the industry will be able to convert to 5G, complete utilization journey and definitely, the move to the cloud, which is really, really at the beginning.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thanks.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Tal Liani of BofA. Your line is open.

Tal Liani

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for the question.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Hi, Tal.

Tal Liani

Analyst

The growth acceleration we’re seeing this year, we’re seeing growth acceleration across companies who sell to carriers and cloud and I want to understand the longevity, the sustainability of the growth acceleration, meaning can you discuss whether this is – these are just projects that maybe were on hold during COVID or anything that was delayed and now being deployed versus projects who are starting on long-term cycle things you have done and translate into long-term growth? Can you give us a little bit color on the growth acceleration? Thanks.

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

Hi, Tal. Definitely, these megatrends are here to stay for several years. And by the way, all these projects are like a multiyear projects. I mean to transform companies in the size of T-Mobile, AT&T, Vodafone, it takes years. And it will take a lot of time until all the new 5G use cases and opportunities are going to – have been developed as we speak. So the short answer to your question, these megatrends is to stay for several years. And these projects are not one year project. They’re a long-term project that that will take some time to deploy them. It doesn’t matter if it’s a medium-sized telco or very big these project takes time. And as I mentioned before, we are just starting. So it’s not that – so the investment cycle is really in the early – we said early innings today.

Tal Liani

Analyst

Got it. And last quarter, Shuky, in your remarks, you spoke a lot about cloud. And in the meantime, since then, we’ve seen cloud companies announcing on big, big spending plans. Can you talk about the cloud and your participation there and whether the investment in the network that we are seeing and we’ve seen other telecom names, telecom equipment names talking about big cloud investments? So, how do you participate in these big projects that we’re seeing?

Shuky Sheffer

Analyst

We are participating in this, what we call cloud journey in different aspects. The first one is all this transformational deal that we do, building a new consumer stack for AT&T, it’s being done on our cloud native CS21, which is the latest and greatest platform for monetization. And as I mentioned, this was built from the ground up as a cloud native and all our deployments on the cloud. Some of them are on [indiscernible], some of them are on Azure. So, we are working with all the cloud partners. So this is the first angle to the cloud. Secondly, we are involved in several customers in activity of taking application. It could be Amdocs legacy application or non-Amdocs application and lift and shift into the cloud. So this is another activity that we do, which is growing all the time. So in this case, it’s not full modernization, but taking the application, re-platform them and moving and leave them to the cloud. The sales activity on the cloud is cloud off. As we announced this quarter, if you think what happened in AT&T, initially, we won and we awarded to do the consumer domain on our next-generation suite for 5G. And this quarter, we announced, which is the third pillar of doing cloud works, so doing old operation in a cloud environment. So, I think that we have a lot of – we are the market leader, by the way, in all these three domains. And I think that the journey to the cloud represents for us a very nice tailwind.

Tal Liani

Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Ashwin Shirvaikar of Citi. Your line is open.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Hi there. How are you guys?

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Hi Ashwin.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Hey my question is with regards to the supply of talent, obviously, many IT services companies have been talking about an even broader than IT services companies. Many companies have been talking about particularly high-end technology, talent being short supply. Any commentary from you guys is affecting you guys that you somehow protected, because you have a wider net to cast? Any thoughts there would be great.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Thanks, Ashwin. So yes, naturally, as a company that see the people in the center of what we do, we very focused on our talent. And we are looking at it from several directions. First of all, as the company itself went in the last couple of years into a major replatforming of our products into cloud native depots, et cetera, we definitely invested in risk scaling and continuously do so, risk scaling and creating new opportunities for our employees. And that comes on top of the fact that our unique business model where we both develop products, deploy them and then operate them in the IT environment of our customers, provide multiple career opportunities for people that are very unique relative to companies that are just certain niches or certain kind of capabilities. Put on top of that, of course, the global scale, the ability to make an impact on an industry that sits as the art of connectivity of society that gets into the sensors purpose that is so important to our employees. I would say that in addition to that, we are continuing to think in the sense that not only how do we attract new employees because that’s obviously important. How do we make our existing employees, re-choose every day to come to work, whether virtually or physically into the office and see the opportunity to make an impact and to enjoy their career development in Amdocs. And we do a lot of things around that. On top of that, of course, there are the regular things how to onboard effectively employees all over the world, have to do it. And by the way, we’ve won awards on that how we effectively onboard employees into the company? How do we create learning platforms? Et cetera, et cetera. So yes, it’s a topic that we are very well engaged in. To remind you, we have a global delivery model. We have access to talent markets all over the world, and we are leveraging that capability as well, of course. And on top of all of that, being a technology company we’re continuously focusing on how to create automation and tools to move into automated flows or what’s called no-touch activities, whatever does not have to be done by people and focus the people’s efforts on the new innovation and the new capabilities that are being built.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Got it. Thank you for that. And then the other question is and as you talk about sort of early innings of multiyear 5G and cloud-based transformation cycle. The way I think of that is it comes through is mainly project-driven work, is that going to kind of affect your project-driven versus managed services mix? And does that have an impact on the overall financial model then?

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

So, we are very happy to see this cycle where many customers are adopting our new products on new technology and deploying it through the form of what you call the project. But at the same time, we just announced today an example of a customer that selected us AT&T selected us for this deployment cycle and building all their next-gen stack for consumer mobility on the Amdocs product and at the same time now selecting us to run the cloud ops of these applications in their environment. So, we are continuously seeing that pull-through Ashwin, that we like so much of entering a new cycle of investments with project and then moving fast and adding to it. The recurring revenue stream that comes with the managed services. I believe that we will continue to see that model of what we are proud about, what you call it the accountability model of Amdocs, so we can do both. We can bring the best products, cutting-edge technology having our customers building their future on Amdocs and at the same time, enable them to rely on Amdocs to run it for them in case they would like, of course to choose us for many services. And we continue to see also a very high close to 100% renewal rate on the existing managed services engagement. So it’s hard to predict exactly the ratio to our specific financial question. What’s the ratio between project revenue and managed services engagement, how to predict as we see both growing and that’s great.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Okay, understood. Thank you.

Tamar Rapaport-Dagim

Analyst

Thanks, Ashwin.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference back to Mr. Smith. You may proceed.

Matthew Smith

Analyst

Thank you very much for joining us this evening and for your interest in Amdocs. We look forward to hearing from you in the coming days, and of course, seeing you at our Analyst event on Friday. With that, have a great evening, and we’ll conclude the call. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day. You may now disconnect.