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Distribution Solutions Group, Inc. (DSGR)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Sat, Feb 24, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Lawson Products' Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Call. This call will be hosted by Michael DeCata, Lawson Products’ President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ron Knutson, Lawson's Chief Financial Officer. They will open the call with an overview of fourth quarter results. There will then be time for questions and answers. This call is being audio simulcast on the Internet via Lawson Products Investors Relations page on the company’s Web site, lawsonproducts.com. A replay of the webcast will be available on the Web site through March 31, 2018. During this call, the company will be providing an update on business as well as covering relevant financial and operational information. I’d like to point out that statements on this call and in the press release contain forward-looking statements concerning goals, beliefs, expectations, strategies, plans, future operating results, and underlying assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described. In addition, statements made during this call are based on the company’s view as of today. The company anticipates that future developments may cause those views to change. Please consider the information presented in that light. The company may at some point elect to update forward-looking statements made today, but specifically disclaims any obligation to do so. I would now like to turn the call over to Lawson Products’ CEO, Mike DeCata.

Michael DeCata

Management

Good morning and thank you for joining the call. This morning, I will comment on the quarter and our overall progress. Ron Knutson, our CFO, will provide a detailed review of our financial results, and then we’ll take questions. We’re very pleased with our progress during the fourth quarter and for the full year. After five years at the helm of this organization, I can say that our overall business has performed very well and is improving. Our sales were up across the board and an increase of 6.1% average daily sales over the fourth quarter of 2016 on an organic basis. Every region grew and 77% of our districts grew. Our strategic accounts were up 43% for the quarter on an ADS basis and 46% for the year, something that we’ve been very focused on over the past few years. As well, we closed our largest acquisition to-date and have immediately seen benefits from the transaction not only in terms of contribution to margin dollars but also the potential to expand in Western Canada. Including sales from Bolt Supply, our sales grew at 17.8% on an ADS basis for the quarter. From an operational standpoint, early in the year, we successfully consolidated our distribution network while not missing a beat with our customers and recognizing sizable gains on the sale of our former facility. Finally, we posted operating income in 2017 of just under $10 million versus a loss of 1.5 million a year ago. So this was definitely our best year in the last five. And if market conditions remain as today, I believe we’re well positioned for a very good top line and bottom line in 2018. From an operating income perspective, Ron will dissect this further, but excluding some nonrecurring one-time items, our flow through for…

Ron Knutson

Management

Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. As Mike indicated, we finished the year strong with a solid sales increase in the fourth quarter and more than doubled our adjusted operating income. Our fourth quarter results also reflect the full quarter of the Bolt Supply House. As I go through our financial update, I’ll comment on both the organic business and the combined results. We do have some noise in our Q4 results ranging from taxes to now consolidating in Bolt Supply to some accrual catch-ups. I’ll comment on these in a moment. First, I want to address the positive tax benefit that we recorded in the quarter. During the quarter, we were required under GAAP to reestablish the majority of our U.S. net deferred taxes that were previously written off in 2012. While this does not provide a cash benefit to loss in 2017, this is significant for us as it’s a clear indication that our financial performance has improved to a level that it is now more likely than not that our future taxable income will be sufficient for these assets to be realized. The fourth quarter realized a net benefit of 21.2 million from reestablishing our net deferred tax assets, net of the reduction of the federal income tax rate from 35% to 21% as a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Here are some Q4 operational highlights. First, sales finished at 80.6 million for the quarter. Average daily sales were up 17.8% versus the year-ago quarter and up 10.1% from the third quarter. Excluding the impact of The Bolt Supply acquisition, average daily sales increased 6.1% over a year ago. Second, our adjusted operating income for the quarter was 1.2 million compared to 539,000 a year ago. The quarter benefitted from Bolt Supply in…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin our question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question is from Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your questions.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Good morning, Mike and Ron.

Michael DeCata

Management

Good morning, Kevin.

Ron Knutson

Management

Good morning, Kevin.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

I wanted to follow up a little bit on the discussion of the incremental operating margin, as you noted, at the high end of the range of the 25% to 30% for the historical Lawson business. You also called out some one-time cost in the quarter. It seems like most of those won’t reoccur. I guess one thing that will continue into 2018 is amortization related to Bolt Supply House. So I’m just wondering what the amount of that was or how much we can expect to continue in 2018 in terms of amortization and how that affects the flow through for the total business in terms of incremental operating margin, including Bolt?

Ron Knutson

Management

Sure, Kevin. This is Ron. Good morning. Let me comment on some of the those items that impacted us for the quarter and as you pointed out, one of those items is certainly the amortization of the intangible assets that were related to The Bolt Supply acquisition. From a quarterly basis standpoint this past quarter, it was a couple hundred thousand dollars. Now that gets added back when calculating EBITDA because it’s included in the amortization and that’s a pretty solid number for the quarter, so about 800,000 on an annual basis. And some of the other items that I mentioned, that one in particular will be recurring, although not really negatively impacting our EBITDA. The other items for the most part, you’re correct, would be nonrecurring as we move throughout 2018. We may continue to see a little bit of a shift in some of the margins from our strategic accounts which typically have lower overall net margins to the organization. But putting that aside, depending upon the growth in that segment or in that piece of our business, the other items should be – we’re not anticipating they would reoccur in 2018.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Okay, all right. That’s helpful. So following up on the discussion of the strategic accounts as well, obviously very strong growth in 2017, I think you said up 46% for the full year. I think that’s benefitted from the rebound in your oil and gas customers. What should we expect for the trend in strategic account growth as we go throughout 2018? Obviously more difficult comps but a continued focus on conversion it sounds like. So if you could just discuss some of those factors, that would be helpful?

Michael DeCata

Management

Sure, Kevin. This is Mike. Good morning. Our process continues. The conversion process is really just a systematic way of identifying a bunch of strategic accounts not all of them all at the same time and then in a very deliberate and systematic way with our corporate marketing people, our corporate strategic accounts people and then all of the field people identifying existing strategic accounts where we have locations that we’re not serving. So as an example of that, last year we added about 400 new locations within existing strategic accounts that were part of this conversion process. Now I will quickly say that when we pick up any new customer, whether it’s a strategic account or a local account, the way that process usually works is you start winning the business, you start winning the relationship, but it’s a rather long process to infuse all of our new products, sometimes new bins and cabinets and start really winning the business on sort of a steady state basis. We refer to it as a long tail but it’s really a long initial ramp up. We’re going to see more of that this year. We like this process. It’s working for us. It’s just another reflection of our systematic orientation or process orientation in the company now applied to strategic accounts. So we’re very much committed to continuing that process more broadly. Now to your point, oil and gas certainly a couple of specific strategic accounts had a very large impact. And that was a little harder to gauge. When we look at the index of oil wells drilled but not complete, fields not complete, the various companies that we service, pressure pumping division for example of various companies, that’s all about fracking. And so there’s a little encouragement there, albeit very difficult comps because it was such a significant step up between '16 and '17 that in particular the comps will be very challenging but that applies only a few customers that we continue to push and there’s still opportunity there.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Okay, yes, that makes sense. It seems apparent that the organic growth rate would moderate a bit in 2018 just given the more difficult comps but obviously then you’re getting the benefit from Bolt. So I guess is that a fair way to think about it?

Michael DeCata

Management

It is. And Ron can comment as well. It is. But look, we continue to refine our operating processes, our process orientation, Lean Six Sigma, so we are doing everything we can to continue to push and pick up new customers and pick up share of wallet. Yes, of course the comps will be more challenging but the company is more robust than it has ever been and that enables us to push very hard even against hard comps, or though we don’t see any downturn whatsoever in the market, everybody sees and we do too and real optimism across all market segments everywhere. But look, we’re trying to win share of wallet and pick up new customers regardless of any of that.

Ron Knutson

Management

I’ll tag onto that a little bit just relative because the question will probably be asked as to how the first part of 2018 has started. And to Mike’s point, we are up against tougher comps in 2017. However, I would say that the first call it six weeks of '18 have gotten off to a solid start in our average daily sales are currently ahead kind of in the mid-single digit range ahead of where we were last year and also incrementally up over Q4. So we feel pretty good about the start of 2018 as well.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Okay, that’s great. And maybe just a couple – let me follow up on Bolt Supply a little bit here. You talked about the distribution center initiative. Did you mention if you’ve gotten into planning in terms of expanding Bolt Supply with new branches maybe in different geographic markets?

Michael DeCata

Management

Kevin, this is Mike. Yes, we have. We are committed to opportunistically adding branches in underserved areas. We’re making great progress, optimistic that we’ll have some branch expansion this year. And of course the other part of the Bolt Supply process is building out and utilizing the distribution center in Calgary to further augment Lawson and Ken-related product in addition to the Bolt product, which enables us to serve our Western Canada customers in a one to three-day sort of a cycle time when you match that with the VMI model that’s sort of similar to what we do everywhere else in the world. But that’s going to have a fairly significant impact on our ability to service more Western Canada customers with the service-intensive model that we’re used to. I apologize, running a little bit of a cold here. So yes, we’re feeling good about branch expansion and distribution center expansion for Bolt.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Okay, great. Maybe just a few last housekeeping questions here. Did you call out how much of impact of restoring incentive accruals had in the fourth quarter in terms of year-over-year G&A comparison?

Ron Knutson

Management

Kevin, we didn’t call that out specifically but I would say is included in the 1.4 million in my prepared remarks were some additional incentives that we had set aside for our sales organization based upon their growth throughout 2017 and in particular in Q4 as well.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

All right. And then it looks like you also are now including acquisition-related costs as an add-back to get to the adjusted operating income number that did change the year-ago fourth quarter just a bit. Were there any other meaningful acquisition-related costs in the earlier quarters of 2016 or the earlier quarters of 2017 that would impact that full year adjusted operating income number on a historical basis?

Ron Knutson

Management

No, Kevin. It was more significant in the fourth quarter just given the activities related to Bolt Supply. But for the full year it was essentially flat because of the acquisitions that we were doing in 2016 as well.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Okay. And just lastly, do you have the number of business days by quarter that will be in 2018?

Ron Knutson

Management

Sure. Let me – bear with me one quick second. So I know in the first quarter will be up against 63 workdays and there were 64 in Q1 of 2017. I’ll come back to that question. Let me pull those days and I’ll come back to it for you, Kevin.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

All right, no problem. Thanks for taking the questions.

Michael DeCata

Management

Thanks, Kevin.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.

Ryan Cieslak

Analyst

Good morning, guys. This is Ryan on for Steve.

Michael DeCata

Management

Good morning, Ryan.

Ryan Cieslak

Analyst

First question is, if you strip out Bolt, can you tell us what free cash flow was for the core business in the quarter and what was total free cash flow overall in 4Q?

Ron Knutson

Management

Ryan, when we really look at it, within one of the footnotes within our press release, we show the adjusted operating income 1.196 million. Of that, about 560,000 was Bolt related. So that gets us down to an operating income on the Lawson side of the business closer to about 600,000. What I would say is, is that our CapEx for the quarter was relatively low. So on the MRO side of the business for Q4, it was pretty much of a push from a free cash flow standpoint. We got a little bit of a benefit which is pretty typical. Our net between the borrowings and our cash position at the end of the year was about $10 million versus our net borrowing at the end of Q3 was about $13 million. So we typically pick up some positive cash flow just on pay down of receivables and so forth which is pretty typical in the fourth quarter. But as we look forward into 2018 I guess the other piece of that answer is that we expect to see some pretty significant reductions in the $14 million of debt that we ended the year with. So as we look into 2018, certainly significant free cash flow to be able to pay down a big piece of that debt.

Ryan Cieslak

Analyst

Okay. And then with revenue picking up in the legacy business, are you seeing input cost increase and how are you thinking about price increases right now?

Michael DeCata

Management

We aren’t seeing anything out of the ordinary. We’ve mentioned this before. There are a handful of suppliers, the industry knows them well, that religiously pass along price increases and they do and we are able to pass them along. Structurally, we feel like our pricing is right. So our primary drive is not to increase prices. We’re always adjusting and making sure that everything makes sense in the competitive environment. But we haven’t seen any change in the competitive environment. As we get bigger though, we are able to manage our cost of goods and supply chain more effectively and suppliers more and more recognize that. They value us as a channel to market as well it helps us on the cost side and our productivity. And we really haven’t seen any structural changes one way or the other either on the price side or the cost side. And by the way I will say just as an aside, I found it a little interesting. If you look at our GDP over the last – about five and a half years, it has varied in a very narrow way into every quarter for about five and a half years. And we don’t really see that changing much.

Ryan Cieslak

Analyst

Okay. Just a couple more for me. Last quarter I believe you cited distribution center productivity improvements as one of the drivers for gross profit margin. Was that the case this quarter? Were you able to find more efficiencies? And then with The Bolt Supply in your portfolio now, do you see room for improvement in their distribution center?

Michael DeCata

Management

I can comment a little bit on some of it. We’re always – Lean Six Sigma is one of these processes where you’re always looking to take non-productive work out, non-value-added work out. We did get a bit of labor productivity in the distribution centers but it’s modest. The heavy lifting is behind us. Now it’s about continuous incremental improvement and we will always focus on that, whether it’s packaging, it’s inbound or outbound freight, it’s labor productivity, it’s a hundred of little things. But they are the kind of little things that all really great distribution companies do all the time. And kind of that’s where we are now. The distribution centers are steady state and now it’s about continuous incremental improvement and that’s the kind of improvement we saw this past quarter as well.

Ryan Cieslak

Analyst

Okay. And then do you think that 58% to 59% gross profit margin is a good run rate going forward now?

Ron Knutson

Management

Ryan, so we came in at 58.3% for the fourth quarter on a weighted basis between Bolt Supply and the Lawson business. And that’s a pretty good range for us to be in. Bolt came in at the gross margins where we had expected as well as the Lawson side of the business being at 59.9. I think both Mike and I have commented on this. That number can move around a little bit, the percentage can move around a little bit just given our customer mix and the product mix. So we’re not overly concerned on the Lawson side if that number comes down a little bit as long as we’re creating more gross margin dollars which is really what our target is, in particular if we can grow our strategic account group as well similar to this last year.

Ryan Cieslak

Analyst

Okay. And then just one more for me. I typically model the company off of sales per rep per day. As the company evolves and thinking about The Bolt Supply acquisition and adding branches, do you think that’s still an appropriate way to model the company?

Ron Knutson

Management

Yes, so the table that we included in the press release, we try to keep that fairly clean so the sales per rep per day information in that historical trend represent the Lawson’s side of the business. We do think that that’s a fair approach, although certainly the average daily sales number is a big component of what generates would be a big piece of the input on the model as well. It’s a little tough on the sales per rep per day depending upon how many new reps that we’re adding, because that’s an all-in weighted number. So internally what we really look at is what’s the productivity of veteran reps, those that have been with us for three to three and a half years and then also how are the newer reps performing. So that number can get a little distorted from quarter-to-quarter depending upon the number of new hires that we bring on.

Ryan Cieslak

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thanks for the time, guys.

Michael DeCata

Management

Sure. Thanks, Ron.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question is from Brad Hathaway with Far View Capital. Please proceed with your questions.

Brad Hathaway

Analyst

Hi, guys.

Michael DeCata

Management

Hi, Brad.

Brad Hathaway

Analyst

How’s it going? I was encouraged to hear the comment about increasing EBITDA margins and increasing EBITDA dollars in 2018. I guess over the midterm, is the kind of target still to get this above 10% EBITDA margin as kind of the combined business? I know that Bolt was kind of low-double digits as well.

Michael DeCata

Management

Yes, Brad, it is. We feel like as we continue to hold costs, G&A costs and we invest wisely in sales, sales accelerating, GDP margins are holding, yes, over the – hopefully not long term but creeping up on it pretty nicely. Certainly that is our expectation. I will say that it’s a touchstone. Once we get to the previously stated 10% milestone, we will continue to push. And it’s the reason we’ve said all along with the capacity that we have in our distribution centers, with our continuing focus on G&A costs reductions and just holding costs, the more we grow, a lot can fall to the bottom line. It’s part of the reason we keep talking about this 25% to 30% flow through kind of a thing. But yes, we are very much committed to that number and feel like we’re going to make good progress.

Brad Hathaway

Analyst

Okay. And is there anything that is abnormal that you look at in 2018 that might kind of change the normal profitability step up?

Michael DeCata

Management

I would say no.

Ron Knutson

Management

I would say no. I think as we look into the early quarters of 2018, I mentioned earlier that we have 63 selling days in the first quarter versus 64 – it will be 64 on a comparable basis versus Q1 of 2017, so we’ll be down a day in the first quarter and that day actually holds for the entire year. Next year is a 251-day year versus 252. And then typically in the first quarter we typically see some higher payroll taxes and so forth. But as you look at the full year, we’re not seeing anything unusual coming through from an expense standpoint. And in fact, I would say we have some 2017 expenses that we feel are nonrecurring that from a comparable standpoint will benefit that comparison as we go into 2018.

Brad Hathaway

Analyst

Great. And I understand obviously there’s quarterly variability in the business based on the days. I was more curious about the year and that’s very helpful. Thank you. And then I guess on the acquisition pipeline, how optimistic are you about that pipeline in 2018 and kind of talking about – if that’s going to be similar to the core MRO business or more similar to Bolt kind of where you see that pipeline falling?

Michael DeCata

Management

Brad, we continue to build that pipeline. We’ve had ongoing conversations with folks for quite a while. People that we’ve reached out to and then of course the more of these we’ve done, more people are now reaching back out to us or independent folks just contacting us and asking if we’d be interested. There are opportunities that are very near to what we do, people that are direct competitors with the same kind of value proposition, albeit mostly smaller. And then there are kind of near adjacencies. Bolt is a very near adjacency. If you remember, more than 50% -- a little bit more than 50% was fasteners at Bolt. So they’re very similar, but with 13 branches that was slight different also. So there are opportunities on both fronts. People that are almost identical to us but smaller and people that are very near to us. So we continue to pursue a broad range of these opportunities. Of course as you know, it’s a little hard to predict with any one of them you get pulled into the boat. But yes, we are filling the pipeline with a bunch of them.

Brad Hathaway

Analyst

Great. Excellent. Hopefully, we’ll see some come to fruition. Obviously it’s unclear when both parties will be able to sign on the dotted line, but --

Michael DeCata

Management

Yes. If I could just interrupt. One thing that I should have mentioned, our acquisition strategy is both focused on the U.S. and Canada. Even internally some of our folks ask if it’s a Canada-only strategy which it is not. It’s an opportunistic strategy. We love Canada and our Canadian teammates, but we are very actively pursuing U.S.-based acquisitions as well even though the first few opportunistic ones have come through Canada.

Brad Hathaway

Analyst

Fantastic. Well, congrats on continued good progress and I look forward to seeing how 2018 develops.

Michael DeCata

Management

Thank you, Brad.

Ron Knutson

Management

Thanks, Brad.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. We have a follow-up question from Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research. Please proceed.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Hi. Just on the rep count and hiring plans, the rep count did tick down very slightly in 2017 as you focused on the productivity of existing reps. How are you thinking about hiring as we go throughout 2018 and growth in the rep count?

Michael DeCata

Management

Kevin, thank you. We will continue to add reps, albeit at a moderate pace. There’s a balance between adding reps in underserved territories and as we build – as we add customers, as we penetrate existing customers, it takes more time. So our long-term and 2018 commitment is to gradually continue to add reps. What you’re seeing is a really sharp focus on helping reps get into that first trajectory so they succeed in their territories which enables them to succeed in the next quarter, then the next year and three and four, five years down the road. So we continue to hire. What you’re seeing is the result of performance management. Where if it’s not going to work out, we tend to part ways with an incoming rep. But as far as our strategy and our plan, unchanged. We’ll continue to see a drive to add more reps at a moderate pace in '18 and likely beyond.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Okay. And then with the deferred tax asset now recognized, should we expect kind of a more normalized tax rate in 2018? Any comment on what to expect on that front?

Ron Knutson

Management

Yes, Kevin. So just as a side note, I think Mike mentioned this. I did as well. It’s significant to put that asset back on our balance sheet. It clearly is an indicator of our confidence moving forward and the financial ability. GAAP doesn’t allow you to put that back on the balance sheet if it’s not more likely than not, but those assets will not be realized. So we feel really good that we’re at that point now where we can reestablish those deferred tax assets. Relative to the rate going forward, so it does put us in a position where we will be recording tax expense on a more routine basis. And given the changes in the tax laws, our all-in tax rate as we move forward is going to be closer to 27% to 28% and that’s a combination of the new rate at 21%, our Canadian business which is a little bit higher than that and then certainly a state component as well. We do continue to have some net operating losses, however. So from a cash flow perspective, we’ll be able to utilize those throughout 2018. But we will have some expense that will actually come through the P&L now on a go-forward basis.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

All right, that’s very helpful. And just lastly, when would you expect the 10-K to be filed?

Ron Knutson

Management

So our intentions are to file that later today.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

Okay, sounds great. Thanks for taking the follow up.

Ron Knutson

Management

Kevin, just a follow up to your previous question. So on number of days on the quarters were at – this is 2018, 63 in the first quarter, 64 in the second quarter, 63 in the third quarter and 61 in the fourth quarter. And all the quarters are consistent with '17 with the exception of the first quarter which is 63 versus 64 days.

Kevin Steinke

Analyst

All right, perfect. Thanks.

Ron Knutson

Management

Sure. No problem.

Michael DeCata

Management

Thanks, Kevin.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Mike DeCata for closing remarks.

Michael DeCata

Management

Great. Thank you very much. Thank you to everyone for joining the call and for following Lawson Products. The fourth quarter continued our growth trend and makes six consecutive quarters of improving sales on a year-over-year basis. We’re optimistic that our previous investments and actions will have a positive impact on both the top line in 2018, and especially the bottom line. We feel confident in our 25% to 30% flow through which we have previously communicated. Yesterday, we finished a meeting with our sales leadership team. We laid out several programs that we believe will promote our value proposition and increase sales. Lastly, I’d like to thank our dedicated teammates. They work hard every day to serve our customers and to enable our customers to succeed. 2018 is going to be a very good year for Lawson Products. Thank you again and have a great day.