Operator
Operator
Good day, everyone and welcome to the Destination XL Second Quarter Fiscal 2015 Earnings Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Jeff Unger. Please go ahead, sir.
Destination XL Group, Inc. (DXLG)
Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 27, 2015
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Operator
Operator
Good day, everyone and welcome to the Destination XL Second Quarter Fiscal 2015 Earnings Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Jeff Unger. Please go ahead, sir.
Jeff Unger
Management
Good morning, Anthony. Thank you everyone for joining us today on Destination XL Group’s second quarter fiscal 2015 call. On our call today are David Levin, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Peter Stratton, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. During today’s call, we will discuss some non-GAAP metrics to provide investors with useful information about our financial performance. Please refer to our earnings release, which was filed this morning and is available on our Investors Relations website at investor.destinationxl.com for an explanation and reconciliation of such measures. Today’s discussion also contains certain forward-looking statements concerning the company’s operations, performance and financial conditions, including sales, profitability, EBITDA, expenses, gross margin, capital expenditures and sales per square foot, earnings per share, store openings and closings and any other such matters. Such forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those assumptions mentioned today due to a variety of factors that affect the company. Information regarding risks and uncertainties are detailed in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now, I would like to turn the call over to our President and CEO, David Levin.
David Levin
Management
Thank you, Jeff and good morning everyone. We are excited about the performance of the DXL store concept. And looking at our second quarter, you can understand why. The outstanding results we announced this morning continued to demonstrate that our long-term plan is working as we delivered improvements in both sales and profitability. Once again, our DXL retail stores produced a double-digit sales comp of 11.9%, which was on top of an 11.3% comp in the second quarter of last year. DXL stores now have double-digit comps for eight of the past nine quarters. Against the backdrop of a challenging retail environment, these results truly standout. DXL is one of just a few retail companies that is generating organic sales growth. During the past three years, our sales have increased from $387 million in fiscal 2013 to $414 million in fiscal 2014 and potentially $442 million at the midpoint of our fiscal 2015 guidance. This growth is a testament to the fact that the big and tall customer is truly connecting to the DXL concept. In fact, our total growth for the first six months of 2015 has already outpaced our customer growth for all of fiscal ‘14. Sales accelerated during the quarter as we benefited from a combination of favorable weather, increased store traffic, higher average transaction and greater sales to end-of-the-rack customers on a year-over-year basis. This top line growth translated into EBITDA for the quarter of $6.8 million, an impressive 116% increase from the second quarter of 2014. We said last quarter that the success of our smaller footprint DXL stores gave us optimism for additional growth in our overall store footprint. As a reminder, the ROI of the smaller stores, which range between 5,000 and 6,500 square feet, is similar to that of our larger DXL…
Peter Stratton
Management
Thank you, David and good morning everyone. To elaborate on David’s comments, our performance in the second quarter further demonstrates that our plan for the DXL concept and rollout is working. The sales comps we are generating are in stark contrast to what is occurring in the overall retail space. And this gives us confidence that we are able to execute our strategy successfully. We are very pleased with these strong quarterly results and we are on track to meet the upper end of our fiscal 2015 revenue and EBITDA guidance. So now, let me highlight some of our financials for the quarter. During the second quarter, we reported total comparable sales increase of 6.7% on top of 7% increase in the prior year quarter. We had 111 DXL stores opened for at least 13 months, which drove this growth. The 111 DXL stores delivered a comparable sales increase of 11.9% on top of 11.3% in Q2 2014 largely as a result of 9.2% increase in the number of transactions. Both traffic and conversion are increasing, which is a very positive sign for sustainable long-term growth. Turning to gross margin, in the second quarter gross margin including occupancy costs was 47.2% versus 46.3% for the same quarter of fiscal 2014. The 90 basis point increase was largely the result of a 30 basis point reduction in occupancy costs as a percentage of total sales and a 60 basis point improvement in merchandise margin. Fewer markdowns stemming from the company’s lower clearance inventory levels helped to drive the increase in merchandise margin. SG&A costs for the second quarter were 41.3% of sales compared with 43.3% in the second quarter a year ago. On a dollar basis, SG&A expense increased $2 million year-over-year. Increased payroll, sales and corporate expenses this quarter were…
Operator
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] It appears our first question comes from Tom Filandro from Susquehanna Financial Group.
Tom Filandro
Analyst
Hi. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on another solid quarter. I was hoping you guys can help us better understand the evaluation process that’s giving you the confidence to bump to 400 locations and maybe can you frame for us a long-range view of what the sales contribution or maybe the overall sales outlook would be once you reach the goal and as well as the operating margin outlook for the business, again long range as you approach these additional bump up to 400 locations? Thank you.
David Levin
Management
Okay. The 400 locations that we came up with was a combination of our marketing department who used our database, our real estate department and our finance department to determine if these stores can meet the thresholds required. Tom, you asked me to go back, at one point there were 600 Casual Male stores and as we have collapsed the markets, we are leaving a tremendous amount of customers not within reach of the store. And when we did the spotting study, we saw that there are certainly a lot of customers out there, existing customers, that have shopped us in the past. So I think 400 is a reasonable number, it’s not a crazy number. And each one of these markets, the criteria came into place that we can get the ROI and have the proper sales base. This would not have been possible if we didn’t – if we were not successful with the 5,000 square-foot stores. It really changed the dynamics of the capital we have to put in, the percentage of rent that we are paying and the profitability of these stores. And really, they have been very successful as we have been opening these for the last year. And it really gives as an opportunity to place a lot more stores in whitespace areas.
Peter Stratton
Management
And Tom one thing that I will add as is David talked a little bit about the size of those stores over, so when we are done with the build-out, the average size of the DXL retail stores, we think is going to be about 7,200 square feet. And outlet stores, a little bit smaller than that, they will be about 4,500 square feet. So you can take the number of stores times those square footages to come up with an idea of what we are thinking in terms of total square footage. And we are still on track with – we have been saying for a long time that we think sales per square foot in our DXL stores, is going to reach $220 per foot. So using those three pieces of information, you can get an idea as to what the sales potential looks like.
Tom Filandro
Analyst
Okay. And then the OPM question, I mean it’s a little harder question to ask, but ultimately when you get there, I would assume you have greater leverage on SG&A, corporate and all the other fixed areas of business, any thoughts…?
David Levin
Management
Yes. That’s absolute fact, I mean what this really does is it opens up the growth potential for the next 5 years. So previously, we were thinking by the time we get out to 2017, we will be starting to slowdown the concept. We would have by that time 210 to 220 stores and if we were only going at 250, it was going to slow down, but now that we can go to 400, it gives us a lot more growth potential in ‘18, ‘19 and ‘20.
Tom Filandro
Analyst
And may I ask one more question and I will leave it to the next person? I believe in May was that you launched the ability to see, I think inventory across the system, just confirming that. And if you did, can you just maybe discuss the implications on what that will have – what you think that will have on the business over the long haul? And did you experience any sales list during the second quarter as a result?
David Levin
Management
Yes, that’s our StoreNet concept and it did create a dramatic impact on our business, because prior to that, the only visibility to customers buying online was if we own that product in the warehouse itself. Under the new system all products is live. So, if we have a shirt in Billings, Montana, the customer doesn’t know where it’s going to be shipped from. We basically setup backroom warehouses for all these stores and it’s done a tremendous positive impact on us. What’s interesting is it really drives clearing out the seasonal goods, because obviously we have pushed all that out of the warehouse. And now, rather than taking a continual markdown in the stores, we could get that sold usually at the first markdown of 25% off versus in the stores, it could have been 50% or 75% off by the time we sold it. So, it’s been a big win for us. It has impacted our sales positively. And it’s really reduced the amount of clearance we have in the total company.
Tom Filandro
Analyst
Excellent, thank you.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Liz Pierce with Brean Capital.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
Good morning. Congratulations. Kind of, David, just following up on Tom’s question about the StoreNet and your comment about putting – creating a little bit of a backroom, has that caused any kind of disruption or incremental cost for the stores?
David Levin
Management
No, it’s a system that it caps out a specific store on any given day. So, one store won’t get overloaded. So, once it reached its maximum capacity of units, it shuts down and it will go to another store. And look, we have been doing this for a year now and it hasn’t impacted our labor in the stores at all.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
Okay, that’s good. I just wanted to clarify. And then in terms of these additional stores, I am curious about your comment when you some of the stores that – markets that you left, are they going back – will these additional stores be going back into those markets or – so were people already have some recognition of Casual Male or?
David Levin
Management
Yes, definitely. If you recall, we closed 100 stores in 2013 and that’s way too impressive and now we are going back and filling in those spaces and we filled in some of them. And again at 5,000 square feet, we are talking about stores that only really need to do in the neighborhood of $1 million in the early years. That’s $200 a foot. So, that fits our model. And almost all our stores reached that threshold within two years.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
Okay. And then just following up on something you guys had mentioned in last quarter, just making sure that those most productive Casual Male stores, I think 23 of the 25, right, are said to convert, those are still on track?
David Levin
Management
Yes, fair, pretty close to that. Again, we can’t always close the deal, but the point is that we have a very strong lineup for 2016. A lot of the stores that we have been trying to get in those markets for several years have opened up finally. So, we got some of our higher volume Casual Male stores converting next year, which will be a big plus for us.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
Okay. And then on the marketing campaign, so I think as you said last quarter, we will see the same kind of timeframe, same cadence for the second half, but I was curious you said about the advertising rate or you are getting better rate presuming you can continue to carry that forward? And perhaps is there an opportunity to continue to bring that down?
Peter Stratton
Management
So, Liz, on the comment that I will make on that is last year, the middle of last year, I think we started talking about the fact that we had gone out and contracted with the new media agency and we were getting some nice savings in the second half of last year. We have seen them again nice savings in the second half of this year – I am sorry, first half of this year, but we are about to anniversary that. So, it was kind of a one-time event over the second half and first half of this year. So, while we are going to continue to have good marketing rates going forward, you are not going to continue to see a big drop quarter-to-quarter like we have been seeing.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
Okay, thanks for that clarification. That’s helpful. Alright, I will get back in the queue, but if I don’t speak to you, best of luck guys.
Peter Stratton
Management
Thank you.
David Levin
Management
Thanks.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Bernard Sosnick with Gilford Securities.
Bernard Sosnick
Analyst · Gilford Securities.
It’s great to see you on such a positive trajectory. Congratulations.
David Levin
Management
Thank you.
Bernard Sosnick
Analyst · Gilford Securities.
With regard to the Casual Male stores, has the transition from Casual Male to DXL improved? And is there reason to reduce promotional emphasis to get that transition?
David Levin
Management
Well, we have definitely seen improvement in conversion. And when we talk about conversion, it’s how many existing Casual Male store customers shop at the DXL store within the coming year. And we have improved that every quarter as our marketing techniques have gotten more honed in on what really motivates this guy to come in to see the new store. But that’s been very strong for us and we will continue to be that. From a marketing point of view, we have pretty weaned down our promotional calendar. We are seeing a tremendous response to full price selling these days and we are not – we don’t anticipate any real change in that cadence to use promotional events to drive traffic to the stores. It’s more just getting them in the store the first time. And what’s happening is when it comes in the store the first time, he stays longer within our database, more active. And that’s been the big win. And as I said, our customer accounts are going up dramatically. And previously that was always our previous problem was keeping the customers in the stores.
Bernard Sosnick
Analyst · Gilford Securities.
Still with regard to Casual Male, how have those stores been performing, because for a while, you are citing better performance than you had anticipated?
David Levin
Management
They have held up extremely well and they are still in the positive territory in the comps, low single-digit comps, which is all we expect from them and they have continued to deliver that even as the DXL stores start to cannibalize the real estate space. Casual Male stores have been very resilient.
Bernard Sosnick
Analyst · Gilford Securities.
I am glad to see that success across the board. With the conversion of higher volume Casual Male stores, casual for next year, how might that affect the DXL stores as they start up and how many of these high volume stores do you have transferring?
Peter Stratton
Management
Well, we still have, as David was saying, Bernie, we think it’s 20 plus stores this year and next year of our higher volume stores are transferring over. That’s certainly helping to drive our growth this year and next year. So, we have said that next year, we are targeting $470 million in sales and we feel very good about that number at this point.
Bernard Sosnick
Analyst · Gilford Securities.
Okay. And finally on the branded side of DXL, the inventories are up, I presume. It’s an indication of strong demand for branded goods. Could you give a little bit of color with regard to branded goods and your plans to increase private label as a means of enriching your gross margin?
David Levin
Management
Well, we have said this before, the brands are about 30 – they are only about 30% of our sales in the DXL stores. We continue to be very driven by our private label brands, but the newer customer coming in, the younger customer is definitely more brand conscious. One interesting point on that, because it’s always been a concern as we grow out these stores, what’s going to happen to our margins and we have actually shown margin improvement even as our percent of brands has grown, we have been able to offset that with more full-priced selling, less promotional and better terms with our branded vendors.
Bernard Sosnick
Analyst · Gilford Securities.
Well, congratulations again.
David Levin
Management
Thank you.
Peter Stratton
Management
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from Chris Krueger with Lake Street Capital Markets.
Chris Krueger
Analyst · Lake Street Capital Markets.
Good morning.
David Levin
Management
Good morning, Chris.
Chris Krueger
Analyst · Lake Street Capital Markets.
Hi, can you talk about the timing of this year’s advertising campaign or television advertising campaign versus last year for the kind of important holiday period?
David Levin
Management
It mirrors what we did last year. It’s just we are on the same cadences for the fall season as we did in 2014.
Chris Krueger
Analyst · Lake Street Capital Markets.
Okay. And then my only other question is anything new on the competitive front, I mean it seems like others have kind of gone away, has anybody emerged year-to-date?
David Levin
Management
Not that we know off, no. We continued to dominate the market and we haven’t seen anybody making any strategic moves.
Chris Krueger
Analyst · Lake Street Capital Markets.
Okay, that’s all I got. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Liz Pierce with Brean Capital.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
Thanks. Just a follow-up question, how should we be thinking about the closing down now of the Casual Male, like is there any change in the way we should be modeling the number of stores per year?
David Levin
Management
Liz, that’s a great question. So when we get to the 400 DXL stores, which are both outlet and retail stores, there is still going to be a very small group of Casual Male stores that are still open, call it about 30 right now. And we still have our three biggest Rochester stores in London, Beverly Hills and New York. So the smaller Casual Male stores, the reason that they are still in there is that even as we have gone down to a 5,000 square foot store, there is still that group of 30 that we are not sure yet if they could make it as a DXL. So as long as they have healthy sales and they are generating positive free cash flow, we will keep them open.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
Okay. And is that a mix between Casual Male outlet and Casual Male retail?
David Levin
Management
Yes. It’s about 15 retail and 15 outlet.
Liz Pierce
Analyst · Brean Capital.
15 retail, 15 outlet. Okay, that’s all I had. Thanks and best of luck again.
Operator
Operator
And it appears we have no phone questions at this time.
David Levin
Management
Okay. Well, thank you, all for joining our call today. And as I always do, I would like to end by inviting you to visit one of our DXL stores and experience what we have built in the Destination concept. And if you would like to visit any of our stores, please let us know, we will be happy to give you a tour. And we look forward to speaking with you next quarter. And thank you very much.
Operator
Operator
That does conclude today’s conference. Thank you for your participation.