Well, clearly if we start with AT&T, Alan, they could not have been any more clear about what their plans around the strategic deployment of fiber in their consumer network and in other parts of their network. And we think that, obviously this year, essentially a restart of the program, they expect it to grow next year and they expect it to continue at least through 2025, although some comments yesterday that -- that as long as the program performing well that it continues. I think the year ahead or two years ahead Alan, what's interesting is, all of the ILEC phone companies for the most part have fiber-to-the-home programs that are at least maintaining, if not growing, right. So clearly, lots of growth with AT&T. Frontier has been very clear that they look at the deployment of fiber strategic. Smaller companies like Ziply, we actually -- as we mentioned in our comments, we've started with consolidated communications, which is a smaller customer. But an interesting one in that, they've been very clear that they expect to build out over the next five years about 70% of their footprint or about 1.6 million homes to fiber-to-the-home. So, I just think there is a clarity around the business strategies, around network, particularly on the phone company side, but has never been clearer, both on the wireline side on fiber, but also on the wireless side with respect to C band. There were comments yesterday at a conference where there is an appetite for one of our large customers to really deploy a wireless broadband product throughout the country, including rural America. And I think on the cable side of the business, I think, they've also been very clear that they have very healthy broadband businesses that they're willing to invest in, particularly to grow upstream capacity to remain -- to maintain their competitive advantage over fiber. So, I think the teams are all there. We got to work through this large customer program. We've got some absorption issues in our slow first half for top five customer, but we haven't been at 68% of revenue for the top five or 32% for everybody else in a very long time, and we think that's a good sign for the future.